Session Start: Sat Oct 26 20:51:15 2002 Session Ident: Goose1 [8:51pm] Session Ident: Goose1 (CrewNYC@66-108-99-173.nyc.rr.com) [8:51pm] hey creed [8:51pm] nope [8:51pm] its text [8:51pm] I want to do this: [8:51pm] http://www.sega-am2.co.jp/vf4evo/index.html [8:51pm] see right above the english on the left [8:51pm] it says Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution I think in japanese [8:51pm] I want to take that [8:52pm] and make it an image [1:21am] lol creed [1:21am] i'm just messing with yah [1:21am] ;) [1:21am] too bad myke left [1:21am] it was getting fun [1:21am] :) [1:21am]

but it that's all it does! XD [1:21am]

just pisses off the ppl here [1:21am] hahha yeah [1:21am]

it doesnt motivate outside ppl [1:21am] of course [1:21am] this is a closed chat room [1:21am] ;) [1:21am] I wanted myke to change the move list [1:21am] so I could print it [1:22am]

oooooo [1:24am] you're doing all this to get myke to change the fucking movelist? [1:24am] hehe [1:25am] you're a jackass. I can see why rich freaks out at you so often. [1:26am] nah c'mon its not like I really trash talk people in person [1:26am] online and in person are different sorts of thigs [1:26am] no, they're not, and that's a stupid problem a lot of people have. [1:26am] you're a totally cool guy in person and online [1:26am] "What I say online doesn't matter because it doesn't count, it's online" [1:26am] that's stupid. [1:26am] I don't need to see your lips move to hear what you say. [1:27am] well its like the post I made on VFDC [1:27am] prior to NYG3 [1:27am] Look, I don't care what your problem is... bored... wishing you could play better... wishing you had more people to play... whatever. I just don't care what the reason is behind it. [1:27am] Trolling and being an asshole online [1:27am] is just plain being an asshole. [1:27am] ice and a few others posted up, classic me [1:27am] don't ever do it to me. [1:27am] is any of this getting through to you? [1:27am] heh you got in the middle of it, my bad [1:27am] so I stopped [1:27am] yeah I got you [1:29am] you stopped only because it's pretty clear I'm not tolerant of bullshit. Find some other means to your end. If you want myke to print up a movelist a different way, ask nicely or offer something in return. If you want people to get into VF, act nicely towards them and give them a reason to like it. [1:29am] being an asshole doesn't get you what you want as far as this shit is concerned, how could you reach 20-something years of age and not get that? [1:29am] man in preson in the arcade im probably the best person for newbies to play with [1:30am] I Dont trash talk anyone in person [1:30am] I thikn you should have seen that [1:32am] then why the fuck did you just say you did? [1:32am] what possible reason could you have to say that? [1:33am] maybe people should talk more trash behind each other's back. [1:33am] like you did about my playing. [1:33am] do you think that was productive? [1:33am] figure that really fires me up to play more, get better? [1:33am] behind the back trash talking is really your true opinion of the players [1:33am] like srider said some crap about my play style [1:34am] or blondie or imf [1:34am] its good [1:34am] as long as when you play you play respectfully its cool [1:34am] yes, exactly [1:34am] play respectfully. [1:34am] talk less trash. [1:34am] between friends who are ALREADY GONNA PLAY ANYWAY it serves no purpose except to make you look like a cock. [1:34am] matt my bad when myke was in the room it was juicy [1:34am] when he left it got into a more serious dicscussion [1:35am] it wasn't even juicy, you think you understand how people see you and what you say [1:35am] you don't, you have no idea. [1:35am] so I ended it when I had no more ammo to get into anything new heh [1:35am] you think they're saying "lol, look at him go... man this is gonna be great, let's watch these two go at it" [1:35am] what they're actually saying is [1:35am] "jesus, andy is such a jackass. What trash." [1:35am] and that's a quote. [1:35am] haha I PM'ed a few people to say watch out [1:36am] so what? [1:36am] what's sad is you fucked with me for a long stretch of time [1:36am] KNOWING it was fucking irritating me [1:36am] while privately you were letting others know it was just to rile people up [1:36am] I didn't know really [1:36am] and only after a while admitting it to me. [1:36am] that fucking SUCKS ANDY [1:36am] and you were the only one responding [1:36am] DON'T DO IT [1:36am] I don't care. [1:36am] trolling is trolling is trolling [1:37am] there's no excuses for it. [1:37am] heh okay I respect people [1:37am] "It'll make ppl want to play more" or "it's funny" [1:37am] I'll still flame myke though if thats all right ;) [1:37am] none of that is valid. [1:37am] I don't care, if myke's bothered by it, he might trash you. But then again, what's more likely is: Myke wants to look like nothing gets to him, so he goes along, says something with a smiley at the end of it to you [1:37am] then in private says to me later [1:37am] "man, crew is such a jackass" [1:38am] with absolutely no smiley at the end of it, because he means it. [1:38am] haha lol [1:38am] I'm not laughing dude. [1:38am] ok I get you [1:38am] somewhere you must suspect that people don't REALLY think you're a jackass... maybe cuz of how they'll play along online or maybe because you've met them in real life. [1:39am] I apologized already [1:39am] my bad [1:39am] cool? [1:39am] shrug [1:39am] we'll see if it's cool by how you behave in the future. It's pretty easy to say my bad and then keep on going. [1:39am] besides you do know my honest opinion when it comes to vfhome stuff [1:40am] I can't repeat strongly enough: just because it's words on a screen as opposed to words floating across the room from your mouth.. doesn't mean it doesn't count. [1:40am] I'm a prime example of that. [1:40am] if irc wasn't shit, I theoretically shouldn't get offended by anything you say. [1:40am] but you've offended me. [1:40am] you can argue that, 'hey you should lighten up and just not take irc or posts seriously' [1:41am] to which I can say 'fine, you should lighten up while I say jesus fucking goddamned christ.' [1:41am] which I say everytime watch your mouth [1:41am] but you can say what you want [1:42am] yeah but you get my point, right? Like I said, just because it's online stuff doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be taken seriously. [1:42am] if I say jesus fucking goddamn christ enough, you will stop liking me (and you should!) [1:42am] heh well like I said [1:42am] so don't troll anymore, or I will stop liking you. [1:42am] i'll direct it to people who can take it [1:42am] but if you really tell me you dont like it [1:42am] I always back off [1:42am] like when I tell rich he should ignore my posts [1:42am] he doesnt [1:42am] to which I would if he told me to ignore his [1:43am] It's not good enough to me to say "ok I'll still be a troll, just not to you"... when people 'take it' that means they TOLERATE it. That doesn't mean they ENJOY it. [1:43am] they simply let it slide. [1:43am] ahh okay i'll flame with a reason [1:43am] a FEW might enjoy it but I don't think it's as many as you think it is. [1:44am] like with myke, thats not being a troll [1:44am] actually, it is. [1:44am] myke laughs online, but if someone asked him for a 100% honest opinion of you, without any qualifiers or bullshit [1:44am] do you think myke would say "he's cool" ? [1:44am] I dunno [1:45am] exactly [1:45am] he said before he thought in person I was cool [1:45am] but online he knows its a different story [1:45am] sure, but what's that... eVERYone is cooler in person [1:45am] I think he would be nice to me still in person [1:45am] and it SHOULDN'T be a different story. [1:45am] we had good chit chats when we met [1:45am] and both were cool [1:46am] it boils down to respect. Whether you think online stuff matters or not, you lose it when you act like a jackass, even if you think it's for a good reason [1:46am] myke might like you as a person IRL, and that's cool [1:46am] what's not to like? You're a gracious host and fine to talk to irl [1:46am] but there's that little chunk of respect you've lost anyway [1:46am] allright i'll tone it down dude [1:46am] good enough [1:46am] besides i;ve gotten older [1:46am] its just a habit now [1:46am] lol [1:47am] ha jesus [1:47am] it gets WORSE with age [1:47am] :p [1:47am] i'll tone it down [1:47am] watch your mouth [1:47am] lol [1:47am] sure :) Session Close: Mon Oct 28 16:12:50 2002 Session Start: Wed Nov 06 03:05:50 2002 Session Ident: Goose1 [3:05am] Session Ident: Goose1 (CrewNYC@66-108-99-173.nyc.rr.com) [3:05am] LOL!!!!! [3:05am] i aint trolling at all [3:05am] these are my valid points [3:06am] oh well [3:06am] ignore on dude! [3:06am] you have no valid points. [3:06am] your point is. [3:06am] "I trash talk" [3:06am] "so it's the right way to do and the correct way to behave" [3:06am] "and some good players trash talk so that must prove that trash talking makes you a better player" [3:06am] "that proves that peopel who talk trash must be good" [3:06am] bullshit wrapped on bullshit [3:07am] HAHA i didnt make those asuumptions [3:07am] I just said you got a hard time dealing with it [3:07am] all so you can find an excuse to justify wiping your shitty ego all over everyone else. [3:07am] then you should expose yourself more to it [3:07am] its a part of the game [3:07am] i trash talk good players who can handle it [3:07am] I don't have a hard time dealing with it, I do NOT deal with it. I don't let people talk to me disrespectfully without giving them a boatload of shit or ignoring them. [3:07am] if the person doesnt like it then it adds a mental avantage [3:08am] you really think you're going to convince me that acting like an asshole makes you a superior player? [3:08am] and that I should 'adapt' to that and use it? [3:08am] you're fucking stupid. [3:08am] haha so your willing to say that if Blondie or someone says [3:08am] to you while your playing pai, oh no your gonna lose and starts trash talking [3:08am] you wont take it like its part of the game? [3:08am] the only advantage you have on me is time and money, jackass. You've gained NOTHING by pissing me off, ESPECIALLY pissing me off online where we're not even fucking PLAYING [3:09am] I mean too bad but it exists [3:09am] that's just making my day a little shittier for no reason. [3:09am] LOL if my comments piss you off then you being just like rich [3:09am] yeah too bad for you, too bad people will continue to treat you like the social disease of the VF world. [3:09am] and just getting mad you dont see anyone else getting pissed? [3:09am] yeah whatever, I'm just like rich. [3:10am] do you see dodee agreeing with you? [3:10am] do you see myke? [3:10am] * Goose1 says on the contrary without me there would have been no NYG's and NO competative events [3:10am] in the last years of vf3tb [3:10am] and even in $ [3:10am] 4 [3:10am] where I invited the FL guys to NYC for frolic [3:10am] you think that's a point? [3:10am] without your shit talking [3:10am] there STILL Would have been events. [3:10am] you take ME the FLAMING bait [3:10am] YEAH RIGHT [3:10am] look around you [3:10am] what event have taken place this year? [3:10am] ITS my role in this community [3:10am] your decentness in arranging those events and how you act in real life has NOTHING TO DO with how you're acting now, online [3:11am] which is pure and simple asshole. [3:11am] what 'psychological advantage' do you have on me if I'm irritated at you, ignore you, and am never going to bother playing you again? [3:11am] nah SO many times I've gotten people to practice and get better [3:11am] do you have a 'psychological advantage' in making people quit VF? [3:11am] cause they want to beat down adam or me or someone else [3:11am] that's shit, they practice and play better because they like to win, they hate to lose, or they enjoy the game. [3:12am] you thikn people want to beat down hiro the same way? [3:12am] it is NOT because you smeared shit in their face. [3:12am] no cause they dont trash talk [3:12am] its natural to want to beat someone who trash talks during gameplay [3:12am] otherwise everyone will be a casual fan [3:12am] no, it's natural to want to put sugar in your gas tank or knock your teeth out for the trash talk. [3:12am] I could give a fuck about VF. [3:12am] sure you get mad [3:14am] this is stupid, it's just a rehash of all your old stupid tired shit, jesus christ. I can't believe I keep getting baited into this dumb shit with you. no wonder you're such a tool, you don't even understand VF, you're playing jackoff theory fighter but instead of masturbating to stats you masturbate to the 'social dynamics' and 'intangible influences' on VF skill. [3:15am] as long as you keep thinking your ability to piss people off in real life is important, you will keep losing fifty straight to adam, you will keep failing to do simple m-combos with consistency, and you will keep getting the same lack of respect you deserve. [3:16am] too bad I still practice [3:16am] and I still stay good enough [3:16am] to know I can beat most of the players in the USA [3:16am] so when I canr [3:16am] I'll go back and practice more [3:16am] till I can win [3:17am] woopty shit, this always comes back to "I can do this and I can do that" [3:17am] you can't do shit because you trashtalked [3:17am] and if you win it wasn't because of trash talk [3:17am] and if you ever DO win because of trash talk, like the other guy got so mad he fucked up [3:18am] that just proves you're an asshole, not that you're a better player. [3:19am] haha you have to win mentally too Session Close: Wed Nov 06 03:25:08 2002