Log file opened at: 3/17/02 9:48:27 PM *** Topic for #vfhome: http://www.mashimaro.co.kr/ *** Topic for #vfhome set by GodEater| on Sunday, March 17, 2002 2:41:32 PM #vfhome: rsw @Myke` Prince_Al uk-kid ironbed Mirkan @SummAh @Nap-Pai @DevilRei Goom @dodee @Shou-sama jidanAFK number_6 @tragic @AwayEug otaku{ noman333 @clo *** End of /NAMES list. *** Mode is +stn *** Channel created at Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:30:16 PM *** Mode change "+o rsw" on #vfhome by AwayEug *** Signoff: uk-kid (Ping timeout: no data for 250 seconds) *** Signoff: ironbed (Leaving) *** rsw is now known as rswafk Mirkan: night everyone *** Mirkan is now known as Mirk|zzz Prince_Al: lata *** Signoff: Prince_Al () *** Nap-Pai is now known as siLE-Pai siLE-Pai yawns siLE-Pai: g'evening all siLE-Pai shakes 'round 'n bounces around Myke` steadies the coffee on his table siLE-Pai: http://www.opane.com/marshimaro.html *** siLE-Pai has set the topic on channel #vfhome to http://www.opane.com/marshimaro.html - Check out the episodes @_@ siLE-Pai: hey myke siLE-Pai: man i need a console! siLE-Pai blindfolds herself and wears earmuffs as she puts a WC3 CD in her ibook for transfer *** CreeD (blo@ip142167017027.prexar.com) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o CreeD" on #vfhome by AwayEug CreeD: yay siLE-Pai: hey ccreed siLE-Pai: siLE question? CreeD: sure! siLE-Pai: if I take a PC CD, copy files onto my ibook (names are truncated unless I use program like joliet right?) and then DCC those files to a PC to burn for playing WC3 . .., U think that'd work? siLE-Pai: i haven't used joliet yet CreeD: I don't know joliet or WC3, doh CreeD: but otherwise I'm sure it'd work. siLE-Pai: okie kewl siLE-Pai is spreading the evil to her li'l bros . . . WC3 *muwahahaha* CreeD: I like the marshimaro. *** Signoff: jidanAFK (Idle time limit exceeded) siLE-Pai: creed which episoder =) CreeD: all of them siLE-Pai: yah choiboy was tellin me 'bout it when we went to cupertino village and i was like huh? siLE-Pai: den I checked out the li'l clips =) it all made sense compared to the version choiboy was acting out =) siLE-Pai: cweed hehe yah =) siLE-Pai: mashimaro is a li'l Qte badass marshmallow bunny wabbit siLE-Pai: cweed, i played feixaq in PF on friday! siLE-Pai: i kicked his PF butt! with one hand on the puffs plus =P siLE-Pai: dude, I need to give U the japanese PC CD . . . it allows U to choose, paper, anita, 'n all . . . unlike hte RKde version CreeD: own the saturn version. siLE-Pai: no saturn siLE-Pai: plus asshole stole my copy of PF siLE-Pai: hehe siLE-Pai: the SF boyz were in penthouse magazine CreeD: whaaa siLE-Pai: there was an article 'bout choi, valle, and watson in Penthouse magazine . . . CreeD: penthouse wrote about them? CreeD: laff, that's.... highbrow. siLE-Pai made Choiboy turn to the article page B4 I looked at it @_@ siLE-Pai: high brow? CreeD: yeah ... like... intellectual. classy. CreeD: eheh siLE-Pai: yah there's an article 'bout their USA vs. JAPAN Capcom Championship siLE-Pai: he has a legit Xcuse or reason for saying he bought it 4 da article now hehe Myke`: asshole = ? CreeD: a bad man. CreeD: hey, can someone test my FTP? CreeD: it's suspiciously quiet, even tho I connect fine. siLE-Pai: asshole = meanie pai who takes advantage of siLE pai . . . Myke`: lol siLE-Pai: myke, i filed cahrges against this asshole during college and he still graduated bleh siLE-Pai: and stole my copy of PF! Myke`: charges? what happened? siLE-Pai: that I paid for! siLE-Pai: damn it! Myke`: wah siLE-Pai: i filed charges of sexual harassment as well as assault & battery against a former SF friend during skool . . . and then the graduate student who helped me defend at teh formal hearing couldn't file charges against the asshole for academic dishonesty for cheating (having somebody else do all his psets and take his tests for one of his required CS classes) b/c he was the one who helped him cheat siLE-Pai used to get strangled 'n wrestled by this aasshole wheneverh e lost to me in PF as well siLE-Pai: one time he jokingly strangled me around the neck with a controller pad b/c he lost to me in PF siLE-Pai: and I fell back from the chair and hit my head on the floor CreeD: what a fucking nut. Never got in trouble for that? siLE-Pai: the campus police rushed me to MGH CreeD: I'd say hell with it after the first time he got rowdy.. ? siLE-Pai: MIT is really bad at handling social disciplinary issues as well as taking the stand to raise the bar for academic integrity siLE-Pai: there's a lot of cheating/bibling that goes on . . . CreeD: bibling? siLE-Pai: one kid forged the signature of my fweind, who was head TA for a class known as digital death for all the hours u put into building a EE kit, and the guy was caught but still graduated with a B in the calss siLE-Pai: the kid forged the signature so that he wouldn't have to build the EE kit that other kids spend like 60 hrs/week working on siLE-Pai: bibling = using bibles collected from previous greek members since profs repeat test questions . . . siLE-Pai: basically i filed charges against this guy for social disciplinary actions and the guy who helped the asshole cheat hated him as well helped defend me during the hearing *** Signoff: DevilRei (Remote closed the connection) *** DevilRei (trilluser@207-191-203-199.cpe.ats.mcleodusa.net) has joined channel #vfhome DevilRei: meep *** nandato (nandato@111.new-york-03rh15rt-ny.dial-access.att.net) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o nandato" on #vfhome by AwayEug siLE-Pai: but the asshole still graduated out of MIT even with committing acts of academic dishonesty by cheating in 2 classes required for his degree as well as immoral social conduct siLE-Pai: just b/c u graduate from MIT does not mean u have integrity woven in your moral fiber . . . siLE-Pai: that is for sure one of hte lessons I learned siLE-Pai: hey Rei siLE-Pai: but i hear that dude is jobless still and serves him right CreeD: man, mit blows. siLE-Pai: creed, this guy was a bit forceful in his 'playful' wrestling ways . . it would only happen when he lost to me in PF which was about 95% of hte time . . . but he was my fwiend at the time and I didn't think much of it . .. at the time . . until afterwards . . . siLE-Pai: he would leave red marks on me everytime he'd squeeze my arms and stuff . . . siLE-Pai: one time i took a nap in his room while we waited 4 fudd and he claims he was trying to wake me up but wtf he was on top of me over in my pelvic area pressing my wrists against the bed corners IN THE DARK! siLE-Pai: i freaked out, told my fwiends, and then choiboy helped assure me that it was a misunderstanding and the asshole didn't know NE better CreeD: I don't get it, this is your buddy? Why not say "get the fuck off of me" the first time it happened and then don't visit/hang out with him if he doesn't listen. siLE-Pai: if ur gonna wake up somebody, u'd think first to turn the lights on no? siLE-Pai has low self esteem siLE-Pai doesn't make the wisest decisions when it comes to social relationships given she grew up as a social outcast . . . siLE-Pai: sometimes i didn't know what was right / wrong b/w friends and horseplay siLE-Pai: and each time choiboy was the arbitrator who helped patch things up siLE-Pai: in fact MIT flew choiboy out $1000 ticket I think to testify on his behalf but in reality he was there for a local SF tourney as well CreeD: well, horseplay between guys is normal, but a guy horsing around physically with a girl either wants to get in her pants, or ... well really that's the only reason. Or else he likes abusing ppl smaller than him. siLE-Pai: choi's testimony was just being supportive as a SF fwiend . . . Myke`: sorry was just reading the backlog... man.. pai.. thjat's crazy siLE-Pai: the asshole's case and plea was, "Please don't take any disciplinary action on me . . .it will affect my reputation in the SF community as well as my career. Please have mercy in your souls." siLE-Pai: all of my friends testified to his shiftiness, manipulativeness, his malevolent conduct in general as a friend or person when it comes to academics and social life around the dorm and i thought MIT would take action siLE-Pai: but they wimped out . . . siLE-Pai: just gave him a slap on the wrist with a piece of paper saying that he should be careful next time siLE-Pai: creed, he was a good SF/PF friend *** Signoff: DevilRei (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) siLE-Pai: i didn't know better to think that his forceful play that I presumed was jokingly was a bit too far until I had the hearing . . . and put it into perspective siLE-Pai: creed, well I figured that after it was too late nandato: hey, what happened? siLE-Pai: cweed, he was rejected by the love of his life . . . and I think he took advantage of my trust in our friendship given he's a control freak who loves to win 'n couldn't control his hormones siLE-Pai: this is the same guy who believes that winning is everything and is the only way to enjoy a game to its fullest nandato: hey, what happened? siLE-Pai: cweed, the good thing is I could kick his PF butt consistently . . . he couldn't stand how I could beat him w/o a formulaic strategy whereas he would develop tactics and go play across the nation and win siLE-Pai: myke, yah didnt' have fond memories of skool during junior year. .. siLE-Pai: worse off his sistere was a lawyer siLE-Pai: and he friggin was a senior with NO FINALS siLE-Pai: so he REQUESTED teh hearing during MY FINALS! siLE-Pai: that asshole! siLE-Pai: ughh and stupat disciplinary committee granted him that wish b/c it was the only free time he had and they had to resolve it b4 he graduated . . . nandato: did someone got raped or something? siLE-Pai: nandato, not raped but taken advantage of . . .. i filed charges formally within the skool for sexual assault & battery as well as harassment . . . but it did zilch Goom patpats siLE nandato: was this recent? siLE-Pai: the bureacratic loopholes within the school gives no protection or incentive to victims to file charges against the assholes b/c they are liable to all suits personally outside of skool for civil action suits for defamation of character 'n blah blah blah siLE-Pai: plus nothing is enforceable . . . there's no system to ensure perjury isn't committed siLE-Pai: so u can LIE and phear nothing nandato: who's the mofo? siLE-Pai: i had IS retrieve all my emails that were tape backed up on the athena unix mail server system to validate the authenticity siLE-Pai: the asshole was a management major who was computer illiterate (hence he had to cheat throug hhis C programming class) and wrote all his emails on his mac using some eudoramail program siLE-Pai: and he literally MADE UP EMAILS without any authentic proof that it was sent or real and I appealed to the committee *** DevilRei (trilluser@207-191-203-199.cpe.ats.mcleodusa.net) has joined channel #vfhome DevilRei: FEAR ME siLE-Pai: and the committe just said, "david, we advised u to send us proof of it . . . " DevilRei: I am extra bitchy tonight siLE-Pai: and just let it go . . . siLE-Pai: i was like bleh siLE-Pai: by the end of the hearing I felt good b/c my case was circumstancial but solid b/c of supportive evidence from the campus police report, friends testimonies on his character and malevolent behavior, and yet the school did nothing but slap him with a warning siLE-Pai: nandato, it was my junior year of college siLE-Pai: nandato, david sirlin . . . siLE-Pai: Rei, hehe i wish I could be a biatch hehe siLE-Pai: biatches don't get hurt CreeD: woh shit sirlin? nandato: ah ic CreeD: he's all famous and stuff. siLE-Pai: creed, yah he can't stand losing . . . especially in PF against a siLE gurl who has no formulaic strategy nandato: famous? siLE-Pai: he's great at SF . . . CreeD: and I never suspected he was a dick. Everyone says mike watson was the dick. Doh. siLE-Pai: he wrote and organized the SFA2 guides with the capcom crew siLE-Pai: but the boy can't stand to lose . . . siLE-Pai: he's a control freak siLE-Pai: never met mike watson siLE-Pai: well if u ever meet sirlin in person siLE-Pai: look at his eyes . . . siLE-Pai: they shift a lot . . . siLE-Pai: u never know what he's plotting . . . siLE-Pai: or thinking nandato: lol siLE-Pai: i mean even the graduate CS student who helped him cheat helped defend me during my hearing against him siLE-Pai: that's gotta tell u something about how ppl felt about him and his 'unethical conduct' siLE-Pai: he was all talk 'n no substance siLE-Pai: he's got great ideas for video games I'm sure and strategy and smart in math (although not good enough to be a math major and had to settle for management) but he had no CS bkgd or artistic ability to implement the ideas dodee: poor jenny's gonna end up hating all men siLE-Pai: he's a good writer i'll admit . . . but that's about it siLE-Pai: dodee, oh I hated men in college siLE-Pai: unless they were fwiends siLE-Pai: who I played video games with siLE-Pai is infamous for her Anti-Guy attitude during college nandato: oh oh siLE-Pai: i couldn't trust guys when they were more than fwiends dodee: well, one can't really blame you nandato: hopefully that wont lead to...lesbianism nandato: :> siLE-Pai: so I always hung out with guy fwiends who played video games nad just wanted to play video games =) *** feixaq (fx@slip-32-102-238-123.fl.us.prserv.net) has joined channel #vfhome siLE-Pai: never had a problem with that until junior yr siLE-Pai: i never got along with chickies *** Mode change "+o feixaq" on #vfhome by siLE-Pai CreeD: hey fei siLE-Pai: b/c I was a tomboy . . . feixaq: hi nandato: feizaq...i need those replays man siLE-Pai: never did the whole shop til u drop, hand holding/hugging, gurlies stuff dodee: hahaha siLE-Pai: so I would ditch class to play PF, BAM, SF and stay up til 6 AM east coast time playing SC with the #capcom crew siLE-Pai: missing my biochem class at 8:30 AM senior yr haha siLE-Pai: those were the days =0 DevilRei: siLE, we were made to be gal pals DevilRei: move to Iowa DevilRei: please? CreeD: fei, I'm too lazy to look this up: do I basically have to collect 7 spheres over and over again until I have all of lau's items, and then one more set will net me Dural? feixaq: replays of what? feixaq: creed - nope. spheres are separate from dural nandato: guess siLE-Pai: the only time I hung out with chickeis were the sorority chickies (my soph roomie) b/c I would hook them up with my video game guy fwiends nandato: ps2 vf4 man' siLE-Pai: i had a 50% matching rate *whoo-hoo*! dodee: yeah, that's odd. sorority sister, yet you didnt get along with girls CreeD: fei: what rank is the one where dural starts randomly challenging? I'm three above emperor. feixaq: creed - first set of 7 spheres gets you something. second set gets you some other thing. third set just hangs there CreeD: oic siLE-Pai: Rei, move to cali =) more VF here =) CreeD: well I got my second set feixaq: dural starts challenging around where you are CreeD: seen lau's ugly mask? It's great feixaq: nan - FL replays? or SG replays? feixaq: creed - nope siLE-Pai: Rei, U, me 'n JHK can take over VFHOME and be the power puff VF chickies =) DevilRei: The hugeass baby mask? CreeD: looks like it belongs on a totem pole or something. nandato: you have both? dodee: we already know who's who CreeD: rei: no, but I like that one. I probably need to lose to get it tho feixaq: nan - sg replays, no replays for fl since nobody brought a video cam. siLE-Pai: dodee, my soph roomie was a sigma kappa . . . so her sisters hung out at our place a lot . . . all my fwiends were BAM/PF/SF crew dodee: jenny's bubbles, jhk is definitely buttercup. nandato: sg replayes then siLE-Pai: dodee, BAM were kkorean crowd hence my nick SantOkgI feixaq: you have an ems card? nandato: yep nandato: card??? feixaq: JP vf4? feixaq: adapter i mean siLE-Pai: PF was something I discovered and forced sirlin to buy as well as convince our RKde to get by bribing hte manager with curry dumplings! siLE-Pai: i baked like 2 batches yo! nandato: i have all the cables dodee: mmm...dumplings. nandato: 2 items feixaq: nan - JP VF4? siLE-Pai: and SF was there to begin with b/c there's always been a strong SF presence at MIT but after my generation left . . . it was downhill nandato: yes feixaq: remind me to send to you when i get back to SF feixaq: it's on my home pC nandato: btw, i knew you were going to win :> feixaq: PC siLE-Pai: feixq, u listen to orbital's the Box ? nandato: how do you send btw siLE-Pai: it reminded me of REZ feixaq: ehh... my first match with lei i lost 0-3 because i was playing too many characters before the tourney proper siLE-Pai: dodee, actually jhk 'n I like bubbles =) siLE-Pai: dodee, my '1 week' X was a huge buttercup fan feixaq: but i did get a nice 25 win streak with lau though. guess he's my de facto third character now =P feixaq: sile - the box? nope. you have mp3? siLE-Pai: as well as blossom . . . he had a thing for redheads and brunettes dodee: hah siLE-Pai: feixaq, should I order PS2 online or go to siLE local store? nandato: how does enkidu plays? does he suck or what? nandato: :> nandato: be honest nandato: :> siLE-Pai: feixaq, nope but tragic does . . .it sounds a lot like that song U were playing . . . feixaq: they're actually not bad at all siLE-Pai: feixaq, congratz on the tourney then! my turn to treat next time promise?@()#*@#()*&\ siLE-Pai owes Feixaq 2 dinners feixaq: enk, blond one, imf are probably the better players imho dodee: jenny: you should wait until e3 dodee: proce drop then feixaq: sile - we'll go to kabuto sushi next time round feixaq: sile - unagi that is sublime siLE-Pai: dodee, how much more? dodee: $50 drop, supposedly siLE-Pai: dodee, i dunno . . . after gettin' my butt kicked by that 30 yr old man today . . . i don't ever want that to happen again . . . siLE-Pai must train hard to take advantage of FLOAT OPPORTUNITIES!!! siLE-Pai: bleh feixaq: PPKK feixaq: lol nandato: how do you send? does my ps2 has to be connected first? *** DanTheMan (DanTheMan@ip-207-198-222-20.nyc.ny.fcc.net) has joined channel #vfhome feixaq: i send to you via email feixaq: read my post about EMS siLE-Pai: feixaq, where's kabuto? nandato: i did feixaq: 14th and geary ave feixaq: each file is a .psu feixaq: you upload from your pc to ps2 siLE-Pai: okie nandato: aaah ic, then the prog converts it feixaq: yep nandato: cool nandato: damm i wish you had em here siLE-Pai: feixaq, remind me to burn U a copy of PF for PC so I can pick ANITA! feixaq: oh, i forgot to mention the_dude is a pretty good player too siLE-Pai: it's still in japanese just has the PC/Console features in additional to the RKde *** Mode change "+o DevilRei" on #vfhome by siLE-Pai siLE-Pai: Rei, sorry didn't see U on the list first feixaq: just to play anita? nah... i like my 4MB PF2 siLE-Pai: u have to see ANITA's crusher pose =0 siLE-Pai: so Qte! feixaq: haha *** Signoff: DanTheMan () siLE-Pai: she's all sweet 'n innocent dishing out those ragdoll heads with "LOVE FOR YOU!" siLE-Pai: i never got the internet PF online thing to work though . . . siLE-Pai: supposedly on the PC version u can challenge other PFers over the internet . . . kinda like VF2 for PC siLE-Pai: feixaq, u can also choose to play ONLY the piece of paper with Hsien Ko . . . (no vampire just the paper) siLE-Pai: it's so siLE when u crush ur opponent using a piece of red paper =) siLE-Pai: and u can play golden chun li, golden felicia feixaq: the piece of paper? lol siLE-Pai: all the best colors CreeD: silE: I had that version and saw no internet play, maybe I missed it. nandato: fei: who else has this files? feixaq: genie siLE-Pai: feixaq, yah u can select just the paper and no vampire Hsien Ko and then beat ur opponent =) feixaq: he's on holiday though in perth nandato: i wonder if he's online now nandato: shit nandato: damm siLE-Pai: creed, there is a version where u can connect thru internet/lan . . .to play . . . its in there . . . i'm sure but I never got the ajpanese PF for PC version to work online nandato: when u coming back to sf ? feixaq: wed nandato: ic nandato: damm feixaq: most of the replays aren't worth watching just because tourney clips are generally safe play feixaq: but a couple are nice siLE-Pai warns Feixaq not to get tanned 'n make us all jealous when he comes back feixaq: i'm still trying to weed them out feixaq: i sat at the poolside the whole afternoon siLE-Pai: feixaq, dya guys have an exhibition match for fun after it's all over? feixaq: yeah, we played 2 hours before the tourney and 2 hours after siLE-Pai: oh just rub it in why don't ya chris! siLE-Pai baps feixaq on da head *bonk* feixaq is tanned... somewhat siLE-Pai: feixaq, yo check out the mashimaro episode clips on the topic =) siLE-Pai: how fitting 4 ur name! siLE-Pai: feixaq, yo does ur celica have that shifting thing at the steering wheel? is that E-shifting? feixaq: what? siLE-Pai: like the F1 race cars? feixaq: yes siLE-Pai: so is it automatic? not manual right? feixaq: semi feixaq: clutchless shifter siLE-Pai: is it the same or different from porches? feixaq: tiptronic siLE-Pai: oooh!!!! feixaq: it's the same terminology feixaq: a lot of cars have it now siLE-Pai: it's the electronic one that's just as efficient as manual if not better right? siLE-Pai wants that!!! feixaq: for the high end cars, they are as efficient siLE-Pai: it's called E-shifting? feixaq: for mine... it's noticeably slower than manual gearbox siLE-Pai: i don't care =) siLE-Pai: it's EZier to shift 'n kewler =) feixaq: but... i'm not taking a six speed up and down the hills in san fran siLE-Pai: kinda like the S2000'S "START" race car engine button =) siLE-Pai: it's pure gimmick =) but u gotta love how it feels =) feixaq: a lot of cars have this now... porsches, ferraris, bmws, lexuses, celicas, eclipses... feixaq: i think one of the recent hyundais has this too *** UnCauzi (Zi0n@adsl-32-247-55.mco.bellsouth.net) has joined channel #vfhome siLE-Pai: SF is like slow mo roller coaster ride . .. Boo-boo has a hard time going up 'n down the hills . . . plus tight SF parking garages and unfwiendly ppl who dent Boo-boo siLE-Pai sighs! feixaq: boo boo is your car's name?!?!? siLE-Pai wants her next car to be small, fast 'n Qte with E-shifting =) tragic is back. yay siLE-Pai: hey benny siLE-Pai: yo dude nandato: oh wow, the ranking faq on vfdc looks so nice nandato: how could i save it siLE-Pai gives benny a hugZwugZ that he's survived today's driving scene CreeD: sal: file, save as, web page complete nandato: hmmm feixaq: ah, that is nice siLE-Pai: benny, yo . . . friggin' david hydroplaned 3x and saw 3 accidents this morning . . .UR so LUCKY! UnCauzi: feixaq: tourney go well? siLE-Pai: 2x 'n we're still alive to IRC CreeD vomits inchannel feixaq: yeah, i heard you were around but didn't join =( UnCauzi: feixaq: for about a hour hour yeah siLE-Pai: ben ur track record is better than choi's hehe . . . i have yet to be in an accident in da tragic mobile =) 'n that's a very good thang =) UnCauzi: to poor UnCauzi: hah rswafk: hhrhrrKLh rswafk: hhnnGHGRHEG siLE-Pai: feixaq, boo-boo is my car's name, pookie is my computer . . . they both live on the siLEside of thangs =) rswafk: hhhaaaauuauaaaRRRFfFffFFGHGhjpsssppththlk DevilRei: CreeD! Clean that up! CreeD: BRleaAAAAAAAGGHHHHHHHHhjjhhhspt siLE-Pai: feixaq, it's already got a boo-boo on the right rear end . . .so it's name is fitting now =) DevilRei: Can't you do it in the toilet or something? CreeD: ehcoff... kaff... (wipes stringy dangler from lower lips) siLE-Pai: hey rich CreeD: MMMP DevilRei: Men are pigs. rswafk: HI! siLE-Pai: huh? dodee: pfft. siLE-Pai is not getting the context of Rei's conversation DevilRei: :B nandato: oh god can anyone tell me how to get rid of this "ez search" bar just below the url adreess on the browser... siLE-Pai but agrees with Rei with the modification, "when they are more than video game buDs =b" siLE-Pai: Rei, move to cali =) lots of VF fudd 'n games =) nandato: dunno how this thing appeared siLE-Pai: Rei, U, me 'n jhk should get together 'n cook a feast 'n then munch over Tivo 'n work off those calories playing VF =) DevilRei: Nan, is there a little arrow-looking thingy on the left side of the bar? nandato: arrow? DevilRei: ^_^; nandato: hmmm feixaq: tivo? but you don't have a tv? DevilRei: yeah... a button-looking thing nandato: nope DevilRei: what browser ye using? nandato: ie CreeD: sal: you can do it, but it's a registry hack CreeD: which is delicate CreeD: I'd leave it alone nandato: ah damm siLE-Pai: Feixaq, I will if U sell me urs and buy a bigger 'n better one =) nandato: those damm porn sites! i'll never visit them again... :> CreeD: there is a way to clean out junk urls that have piled up down there, which is also in the registry.. CreeD: eheh siLE-Pai needs to spend her $150 DSL gift card b/4 April Fool's day . . . feixaq: like i mentioned on friday, i can get my friend to sell you her 27" trinitron in 2-3 weeks feixaq: pretty new too DevilRei: I saw the rabbit in play today. DevilRei: He's absolutely adorable. siLE-Pai is gonna record Iron Chef, Junkyard Wars, Battle Bots, Practice, Ally, East Meets West, Power Puff Gurls, Batman/Superman toon, Pokemon, Buffy/Angel and PBS/Discovery when she gets her TV/TIVO! feixaq: rabbit? feixaq: usagi chan? DevilRei: I'm ashamed to admit I started squealing like a schoolgirl upon its sight. nandato: grrr, i hate that toolbar siLE-Pai: creed, so no VF fame in playboy/penthouse hehe? DevilRei: "HE'S SO ADORABLE!!! AAAAAAAH!" DevilRei: Yes ;_; feixaq: bbl siLE-Pai: feixaq, i'm not in a rush . . . i'll be swamped until March MAdness is over *** Signoff: feixaq () siLE-Pai: Rei, creed's bunny wbbit? siLE-Pai: creeed, waht was it's name? scooter? DevilRei: No siLE-Pai: buns? DevilRei: The Akira rabbit siLE-Pai: i forgot =| siLE-Pai: it was Qte though siLE-Pai: where's usagi? siLE-Pai nick SantOkgI siLE-Pai: where's this blue bunny that I hear is so kyupta? CreeD: you get it for being a loser akira siLE-Pai: doh! siLE-Pai: oh siLE-Pai: yah it was on VFDC nandato: i have on me :> siLE-Pai: if ur a winner akira then dya get a pink bunny? *** siLE-Pai is now known as santOkgI nandato: u can equipp it *** Signoff: DevilRei (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) *** CreeD is blo@ip142167017027.prexar.com (blah bling) *** CreeD is on channels @#vfhome *** CreeD is on IRC via server irc.secsup.uu.net (I built the house, I felt the pain...) *** PING delay for otaku{: 1 seconds *** PING delay for UnCauzi: 1 seconds *** PING delay for number_6: 1 seconds *** PING delay for CreeD: 1 seconds *** PING delay for Mirk|zzz: 1 seconds *** PING delay for noman333: 1 seconds *** PING delay for clo: 2 seconds *** PING delay for Shou-sama: 2 seconds *** PING delay for tragic: 2 seconds *** PING delay for AwayEug: 2 seconds *** PING delay for Myke`: 2 seconds *** PING delay for SummAh: 2 seconds *** PING delay for Goom: 2 seconds *** PING delay for dodee: 2 seconds *** PING delay for nandato: 2 seconds *** PING delay for santOkgI: 10 seconds CreeD: ping santOkgI: hey rich santOkgI ping pongs rich wih a hi-bap santOkgI munches on some triscuits *** SpiderDan (edge@adsl-64-172-57-202.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o SpiderDan" on #vfhome by AwayEug santOkgI: man I hope Stanford finishes LAST! CreeD: I hope MIT burns down! santOkgI wants stanford to finish last in March Madness santOkgI: cweed, MIT is a good skool just not much experience handling social issues santOkgI: hence the scott krueger incident as well which was a mess santOkgI: cweed, i'm not mad at the skool santOkgI: albeit it was a lot of red tape santOkgI: but moreso against sirlin santOkgI: he's just evil dude santOkgI: he even plotted to ask his best fwiend choiboy to lost to him on purpose in B2 santOkgI: so that he could get the fame and respect of the SF community . . . santOkgI: isn't that lame? *** bonano (fanboy@200.218.45.57) has joined channel #vfhome bonano: hello nandato: wow thas lame dodee: ooohhh, scandal quakes the very bedrock of the sf community dodee: banana in the mofuggin hayouse santOkgI: asking ur own fwiend to take a dive for ur own personal gain even though ur philosophy is that winning is everything and the only way to enjoy a game . . . santOkgI: dodee, #capcom used to be a soap opera . . . CreeD: was there a cash prize? dodee: yeah, I stopped idling there santOkgI: i remember the days I was really insecure 'bout joanna . . .but i'm glad it's all good, we made up and we're still fwiends now =) CreeD: in pool ppl will tank tournaments by having the two best players agree to let one win and split the cash. dodee: I did't know you two didn't get along santOkgI: cweed, yah . . . it was a really big tourney and sirlin confided in me at the time as a friend that he asked choiboy to purposely lose at B2 to win the respect and glory from the SF community . . . nandato: did he? santOkgI: but the match was a joke for fun . . . they pplayed bad in the last rounds it was just joking around and choi still accidentally won =) Myke`: oh man, i've done zero work today santOkgI: i'm glad he did Myke`: this is bad CreeD: way to go myke nandato: lol santOkgI: creed, yah CreeD: work on the site, that'll make you feel legit. Myke`: maybe i'll go look for marissa tomei again UnCauzi: bah CreeD: I have some marissa tomei softcore, want it? UnCauzi: respect in the sf community santOkgI: creed, sirlin was going to give all the cash money to choi, if choi would lose against him at B2 so that dave would get the fame and choi takes teh cash for his plane ticket Myke`: you lie santOkgI: dodee, who? santOkgI: dodee, me 'n sirlin? dodee: no, jojo santOkgI: Myke it's all good in VF land =) dodee: you said "we made up" about joanna, did't know you had anything tomake up over UnCauzi: heh santOkgI: myke, marissa is a hottie =) so Qte =) CreeD: myke: no really. Ignore the filename, some joker named it "funny movie! girl takes huge dump on park bench!" UnCauzi: vfland needs money tournies UnCauzi: huhuhu santOkgI: dodee, oh we were fwiedns b/c she dated one of my good fwiends santOkgI: dodee, but I'm very insecure low self esteem person santOkgI: dodee, so I started introducing her to my SF/PF/BAM fwiends and she took up SF *** Three-11 (grassroots@lsanca1-ar19-4-62-073-087.lsanca1.vz.dsl.gtei.net) has joined channel #vfhome Myke`: creed ..... santOkgI: and then I got paranoid thinking she was using me to just meet guys . . . CreeD: myke . . .. . . . Myke`: silepai, she sure is! dodee: ahh Myke`: creed . . .. . ... .. santOkgI: b/c she broke up with my good fwiend to hook up with ponder . . . on #capcom CreeD: myke .. . . . . . santOkgI: and then nexxt thing I know she's flying out there t osee him CreeD: woh she and ponder hooked up? CreeD: way to go ponder. UnCauzi: hahaha UnCauzi: soap opera in gaming comm UnCauzi: to good santOkgI: so I got paranoid and tried to be loyal to my fwiend stubert (her X-BF) but also thought she was stealing my fwiends nandato: "its quaking men, alleluya its quaking men, whoa whoaaaaaa" santOkgI: so u can see I'm very immature hehe =) *** nandato is now known as nanq1 santOkgI: and so we didn't get along dodee: man, this is worse than my HS's drama geek's incest santOkgI: then I discovred VF kids santOkgI: and VF at jills nanq1: its..... *** DevilRei (trilluser@207-191-203-199.cpe.ats.mcleodusa.net) has joined channel #vfhome nanq1: quake time!!!! santOkgI: and she met chaj and discovred VF *** Mode change "+o DevilRei" on #vfhome by santOkgI DevilRei: I love love love you CreeD: oh ho santOkgI: and so for chaj's B-day I wanted to invite joanna to his party b/c they were fwiends and chaj complained to me that he felt torn b/w having to side with each of us as fwiends santOkgI: so I made up with joanna so she could attend his B-day party santOkgI: and then she intr'd me to the VF boston crew *** INH- (InsertName@ACC1240C.ipt.aol.com) has joined channel #vfhome INH-: eh dodee: ah. santOkgI: after that she made sure joji never used me for SPoD practice again dodee: how complicated INH-: yep santOkgI: and then we're good friends ever since santOkgI: she moved away though 3 years ago santOkgI: she was my TKD buddy siLE =) santOkgI: she's always looking out 'n protecting me =) and kickin' guys butts for me =+) nanq1: !rich rswafk: yee? nanq1: !rsw Myke`: is someone logging this? rswafk: i don't have ! nanq1: quake time! Myke`: i've missed 80% of the soap opera rswafk: ping or msg me instead nanq1: oh no!!!!!1 DevilRei: siLE: http://www.sega-am2.co.jp/vf4/vfnet/imgs/item_akr_02.jpg nanq1: oh ic nanq1: anyway, creed nanq1: wanna? santOkgI: how did we get on this topic NE ways? santOkgI: yah capcom used to be a soap opera . . . santOkgI: it was incest CreeD: sal: ok nanq1: eww santOkgI: i guess when I wasn't on good terms with jo santOkgI: she dated a couple of the capcomers . . . nanq1: damm! nanq1: a couple nanq1: ??? dodee: heh nanq1: she was a.... santOkgI: so it was weird seeing her with ponder, kuroppi, at Tragi's Gathering and chaj was torn b/w being fwiend with both of us . . . CreeD: 142.167.17.27 santOkgI: plus joanna lived 3 doors from me . . . nanq1: SF groupie dodee: groupie. hahaha santOkgI: sirlin asked her to testify against me santOkgI: sirlin also asked tobster to testify against me dodee: jeeze santOkgI: i was very insecure and an emotional wreck in college dodee: toby,he hasn't been around lately santOkgI: so I screwed up a lot of fwiendsships rswafk: i'll be in q in a few minutes santOkgI: like I got paranoid that tobster was trying to hit on me when he visited with crewNYC for CSC banquet santOkgI: and so I freaked out santOkgI: b/c I was anti-guy during skoolio unless they were my video game buDs nanq1: hahah i know tob CreeD: !sal CreeD: come on yo nanq1: ok santOkgI: and sirlin knew about these incidences where I didn't get along with jo, tobster rswafk: gimme 10 santOkgI: and asked them both to testify against me during my hearing CreeD: 142.167.17.27 dodee: hrm dodee: po jenny *** jidanAFK (jidan@oh-newphilly3a-164.wre.adelphia.net) has joined channel #vfhome santOkgI: of course both of them didn't but it was low of him I think to ask them when it was irrelevant to what he did to me dodee: well, he sounds like a total slimeball santOkgI: Rei, omg! dodee: so it being low probably doesn't phase him santOkgI: So KYUPTA! DevilRei: I KNOW santOkgI wants a bunny wabbit too! DevilRei: I WANT TO HUG IT DevilRei: AND SQUEEEEEEEEEEZE REALLY HARD santOkgI: dodee, yah well his philosophy is winning is everything . . . rswafk: i have a bunny DevilRei: AND SCREAM WAAAAAAAAAI IT'S SO ADORABLE~~~~ DevilRei: er... santOkgI: no matter how u do it and who u step DevilRei: got carried away ^^; rswafk: it's in my pants santOkgI: Rei, hehe same here =) DevilRei: Rich, LOL santOkgI sees Snuggles getting jealous of blue bunny wabbit DevilRei: Is it blue? santOkgI: rsw, 4 reals? santOkgI: doh! rswafk: no, not usually, i suppose it could be made blue but that would be painful for it, most likely INH-: PING? PONG! SpiderDan: I guess you could say every story has multiple sides santOkgI: spider, true . . . there's no absolute truth . . .but in the end one is more credible than the other . . . SpiderDan: I wasn't around for the whole yun thing but it sounds very (very) similar to what happened with jhk santOkgI: Spider, how so? santOkgI: i didn't hear of any soap with jhk except with tragic SpiderDan: something like that *** Signoff: tragic (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) santOkgI: which ended up for the best with her 'n hans santOkgI: jhk, tragic, and cali power SpiderDan: I guess santOkgI: but jhk's happily with hans santOkgI: that's what counts and that's all that matters *** tragic (tragic@adsl-63-202-82-20.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o tragic" on #vfhome by AwayEug SpiderDan: if you say so SpiderDan: but valle is not hans santOkgI: spider, i don't see how it's similar to the yun thang though? santOkgI: yun thang was b/c I was insecure/jealous . . . for my story SpiderDan: not from your perspective santOkgI: yun has her own story for ponder/kuroppi INH-: i am addicted to sc INH-: -_- SpiderDan: that's what I'm saying santOkgI: jhk has her story for tragic, cali, hans SpiderDan: I don't think you have much if any to do with jhk DevilRei: hmmm santOkgI: spider, huh? DevilRei: the whole SF scene sounds like a big soap opera santOkgI is kenfuzed by SPiderdan dodee: as am I santOkgI: there was li'l VF soap SpiderDan: but it seems that in general girls in SF scene seem to like enjoy being able to choose dodee: dan, she wasn't comparing herself with jhk or jo, she was saying how their presence is related to her story santOkgI: nothing as big as capcom b/w me 'n yun 'n chaj santOkgI: spider, choose what? SpiderDan: I'm only saying that yun and jhk are similar in that they pick from many sf guys SpiderDan: and that they are the "rare commodity" so to speal SpiderDan: speak santOkgI: spider, from what i know . . . from 3rd party is that jhk dated tragic, some one night fluke with cali, and she wound up happy with hans santOkgI: end of story santOkgI: yun dated ponder, then kuroppi, then shang, then her CS BF santOkgI: i didn't date anybody on capcom . . . SpiderDan: yun and jhk are not the only examples within sf santOkgI: so I dunno where the similarity is? santOkgI scratches her head SpiderDan: sant: again I am not comparing yun or jhk to *you*, I'm saying they are similar to each other santOkgI: spider, huh? santOkgI: spider, tehre's what malykote? SpiderDan: in that they basically end up with their pick of whoever they want dodee: hahaha *** Signoff: bonano () santOkgI: i don't recall any other chickies from OG capcom . . . santOkgI: there's a ton now . . . santOkgI: i hear taco-cahn is sweet and good dodee: people would turn up dead if malykote started dating people santOkgI: but miffy's braved teh video game ho scene SpiderDan: who is related to malykote? dodee: oneko and... his brother. santOkgI: spider, well yun isn't involved wit hteh capcom scene and didn't had her pick of SF guy in the end . . . SpiderDan: ok santOkgI: jhk is with a VF guy now =) santOkgI: yun is with a CS guy . . . SpiderDan: yun is no longer involved. same with jhk dodee: cs. yech santOkgI: i got hurt by a VF and a non-video game guy santOkgI: spider, same here . . . i quite the capcom scene after sirlin's incident santOkgI: i don''t ever want to cross paths santOkgI: with him SpiderDan: that is your prerogative santOkgI: although he lives like 15 min from me I hear and sometimes is at SVGL and overlaps with some of my SF fwiends santOkgI: spiderdan, am I missing something here? SpiderDan: no I think you are reading too much into it santOkgI: spiderdan, you sound as if ur questioning me or defending sirlin or what? INH-: weztzide SpiderDan: I am simply saying that yun, jhk, and others (not you) are similar in that they take advantage of being able to pick form anyone *** CrewNYC (crewnyc@66-108-96-235.nyc.rr.com) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o CrewNYC" on #vfhome by santOkgI santOkgI: spider, why dya see it that way? SpiderDan: being a female in a group of video game playing guys affords you advatanges SpiderDan: advantages santOkgI: i see it as they hooked up b/c both parties liked each other . . . rswafk: did yun boink joji as well? or were they just going up to practice some late night tkd when i dropped them off at 2:00am after a vf night Myke`: is any of this on the Bang the Machine movie? if not, it should be! :) SpiderDan: no it is not. UnCauzi: hah dodee: this is prolly way more interesting. UnCauzi: okay so UnCauzi: saying santOkgI: albeit the odds og chickies on #Capcom are in their favor . . . but it doesn't do them any good unless the guy likes them as well dodee: "bang" the "machine" SpiderDan: BTM is far after all of thise SpiderDan: this santOkgI: wasn't there another chickie jennifer . . .something who was gay? *** CrewNYC has left channel #vfhome santOkgI: i don't think ur generalization applies for her case Myke`: ic SpiderDan: jenn dolari? no one ever even met her SpiderDan: I think she lived in texas or something dodee: even andy is disgusted dodee: that's a new low UnCauzi: girls that like video game guys have advantages over said guys because they are readily accessible as opposed to girls they have to "look for" SpiderDan: strictly agsf2 santOkgI: spiderdan, well i'd gladly give up that advantage to have avoided teh sirlin saga Myke`: dodee lol SpiderDan: uncauzi: I barely understand that santOkgI: rich, yes yun and joji slept together but it was a one niter while she was dating shang . . . shang wasn't happy about it SpiderDan: let me clearly word my thoughts UnCauzi: spiderdan: neither do i Myke`: unc, or they're just groupies? tragic: yun is involved. just not with a #capcom guy tragic: oh wait. im scrolling up. you guys said that later down santOkgI: rich, they didn't "DO" anything though . . . she just crashed with him . .. and snuggled I think rswafk: uh...huh. SpiderDan: girls in video game scenes benefit heavily from scarcity UnCauzi: i never found a video game chick i dug personally DevilRei notes that she is still single. Thankfully. dodee: snuggled, huh? santOkgI: spider, yah jenn dolari . . . i think ponder told me she was interested in chickies so she's not using the 'advantage' or reaping its rewards DevilRei: I think I tend to scare guys away tragic: spider, from what i know . . . from 3rd party is that jhk dated tragic, some one night fluke with cali, and she wound up happy with hans <--- not exactly the whole story! UnCauzi: supply and demand dodee: rei: you are't bringing down #vfhome, get the hell outta here! SpiderDan: uncauzi: exactly SpiderDan: that is my point dodee: oh god, here we go DevilRei: o_O;;; santOkgI: uncauzi, they have advantages that is IF they are interested in the video game guys for that reason SpiderDan: sant: if she doesn't want any guys that's up to her. but if she did they would be banging down her door. Myke`: oh man *dodee* I'm gonna vomit. *** jidanAFK is now known as jidan UnCauzi: for what reason? tragic: dodee what do you mean, here we go? santOkgI: uncauzi, but if they just want to play video games and have fun and those games tned to be pplayed by guys . . . i don't think they have those so called advantages UnCauzi: sure they do SpiderDan: sant: so if they have no interest in guys... IOW if they are gay dodee: ben: just that we're gonna be here all night talking about all this santOkgI: tragic, huh? yun is with a counter strike canadian now UnCauzi: they have advantages whether they want them or not dodee: no overtone disgust thing UnCauzi: hehe SpiderDan: but... if they are heterosexual, they they enjoy big advantages SpiderDan: *then they UnCauzi: a girl doesn't have to like me santOkgI will gladly hook up Rei with her video game fwiends UnCauzi: to have power over me UnCauzi: or even be trying to pursue me UnCauzi: lol *** ChoiBoy (choiboy@12-234-180-30.client.attbi.com) has joined channel #vfhome DevilRei: I dun want hookups, thanks. ^^; santOkgI: Rei, why? u beat the VF krap outtathem? *** Mode change "+o ChoiBoy" on #vfhome by santOkgI SpiderDan: johnny DevilRei: No... games make up almost my entire life tragic: yun is with some hella young CS player from canada yeah ChoiBoy: howdy santOkgI: tragic, yah that was my CONDENSVED GIST . . . dodee: "hella young" ? DevilRei: I'm quite antisocial *** Signoff: INH- (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) SpiderDan: lol this whole time I thought CS = computer science santOkgI: tragic, i know it was painful for both U 'n jhk tragic: santogki well it was close, but the "one night thing with cali" is off SpiderDan: counter strike eh? seems yun cannot give up her advantages DevilRei: Dan: I thought it meant another thing entirely, hehe UnCauzi: CS? tragic: try 2 or 3 nights. other than that, story is pretty accurate.. in the condensed form UnCauzi: counter strike? santOkgI: spider, huh? SpiderDan: so does yun date any non-video game playing guys? UnCauzi shows his fps nerdom. SpiderDan: that's my point santOkgI: spider, I don't get "SpiderDan: sant: so if they have no interest in guys... IOW if they are gay" tragic: spiderdan, you were in bangthemachine movie. i checked it out last week SpiderDan: sant: if they have any interest in the opposite sex, then they have a bunch of guys to choose from by being in vg scene SpiderDan: tragic: they taped me for about 20 hours or something clo: meet your future beau on a cs server santOkgI: spider, I'm heterosexual and I don't 'enjoy' these advantages . . . I don't see them as advantages except I have a kewl group of fwiends who teach me about SF/VF tragic: spiderdan yea you are in it for like 1 min tragic: lol SpiderDan: you choose not to use them. but you have the advantages regardless SpiderDan: tragic: because I sucked at b4 =/ santOkgI: dodee, he's real young but Qte . . .a mudd santOkgI: mutt mix =) tragic: sant, but i think what spiderdan is saying is.. you have a pool of "guys" that share similar interests... at your disposal.. should you decide you like one or two or 3 of them tragic: or something dodee: what's "hella young" ? santOkgI: Rei, I'm anti-social too =) except for video games =) santOkgI: and fudd =) SpiderDan: tragic exactly dodee: jenny is always so lagged santOkgI: spider, yun was a CS/EE major at MIT dodee: one or two, or...8 santOkgI: hella smart she finished in 3 yrs UnCauzi: okay what is mutt mix, Qte, and fudd? tragic: sant, hes not saying you ARE taking advantage of the fact you have all these guy friends that play video games. just that its at your disposal. guys dont have tons of girl video game players to hang around with. thats all UnCauzi: all this lingo is losing me dodee: qte = cutie, mix = mixed ethnicity, fudd = food dodee: keep up, man santOkgI: spider, well she met him thru AA I think UnCauzi: and CS? tragic: woah she did? lol dodee: ahhh, aa. sheesh santOkgI: so I'm not sure it's the same advantage as a community like capcom SpiderDan: sant: is yun dating a _C_omputer _S_cience major or a _C_ounter _S_trike player? rswafk: alchoholics anonymous?@?!?@!?@ tragic: computerscience / counterstrike. depending on what you are talking about tragic: CStrike UnCauzi: ahhhh UnCauzi: damn santOkgI: spider, hrmmm good point rswafk: oh UnCauzi: didn't know people were referred to as fps players rswafk: the other aa UnCauzi: lol rswafk: heh santOkgI: spider, she didn't date video gamers until I intro'd her to the capcom crew santOkgI: she used to date normal CS asian non-korean guys UnCauzi: wow SpiderDan: spider, she didn't date video gamers until I intro'd her to the capcom crew <- and now she seems to exclusively dae vg players? SpiderDan: *date UnCauzi: so how do you get with CS players? dodee: hey, whatever works UnCauzi: go to LAN parties? SpiderDan: the "used to date" is pre-coutnerstrike. like 1993 santOkgI: spider, that's not necessarily so . . . there's a lot of video gamers who already have GFs . . . who aren't interested in chickies in game communities as well santOkgI: hey clo SpiderDan: sant: no there are not "a lot" clo: asdfasdifjasdf clo: well fuyck me UnCauzi: seriously i'm curious SpiderDan: deluge of abbreviation clo: i came into workt o write an e-mail and the exchange server deciedes to die UnCauzi: are there LAN party chicks in cali? santOkgI is slow at reading =( UnCauzi: wtf santOkgI: Uncauzi, mutt = mixed ehtnicity UnCauzi: or do people like have cybersex in special counterstrike rooms UnCauzi: lol santOkgI: fudd = food santOkgI: Qte = cute UnCauzi: dodee cleared that up already UnCauzi: what i don't understand is how someone can look for CS players UnCauzi: hehe dodee: she met him on AA, I dont think she met him through/because of CS SpiderDan: AA = ? UnCauzi: ahhh SpiderDan: CS = ?? santOkgI: spider, a counter strike player UnCauzi: AA = ? dodee: counterstrike = cs SpiderDan: ok dodee: aa = asian avenue santOkgI: they play coujnter stricke he's in canada ChoiBoy: Asian Avenue! ChoiBoy: asianavenue.com ChoiBoy: for all your booty call needs UnCauzi: Ohhhh UnCauzi: alright UnCauzi: i'm following now UnCauzi: he just happens to play CS SpiderDan: she used to date normal CS asian non-korean guys <- how did she date CS players before #capcom ppl, when CS didn't come out until WAY WAY after? dodee: different cs UnCauzi: tragic just referred to him as a CS player since well...gamers refer to gamers by the games they play UnCauzi: hah dodee: by that CS she meant compsci dodee: sheesh people SpiderDan: wtf dodee: reading comprehen-what? santOkgI: ponder met his chickie playing DDR rswafk ignites the fuze to the explosives strapped to his body, runs up to clopin, bear hugs him, and explodes UnCauzi: DDR makes more sense SpiderDan: TOO MANY ABBREVIATIONS UnCauzi: chicks dig ddr dodee: and I met liv through vf! yahoo! I'm dirty, too! santOkgI: i think more gurls would play fighting games if U guys didn't hog the machines and offered to teach us DevilRei dodges flying guts UnCauzi: nah dodee: girls are the only people that should play ddr. UnCauzi: fightings games interest very little women dodee: ddr was invented for cute girls to play SpiderDan: DDR has almost half/half ration DevilRei: Unless it has pretty boys in it, santOkgI: but then u guys don't respect us b/c we're never good enough to learn on our own or be as good technically/dexterity unless its a japan chickie like maki UnCauzi: dodee: well girls and guys who want to eget girls DevilRei: I know a lot of KoF liking gals. dodee: no, rei, entirely for girls santOkgI: i think shang intro'd her to half-life, CS santOkgI: Spider AA = asian avenue! UnCauzi: shit if i see chicks on it UnCauzi: i'm playing it with chicks UnCauzi: lol SpiderDan: sant: girls play DDR without needing any sort of special teaching DevilRei: Then again, I don't know if they care about playing as much as making goofy Kyo and Iori homosexual fantasies. dodee: amongst other things. tee hee. UnCauzi: hmm santOkgI: spider, my bad . . .she used to date normal ASIAN guys who happened to be computer science majors . . but now her current BF is a Counter Strike player dodee: see, if I had any rhythm whatsoever, I'd consider playing UnCauzi: i may check out this asian avenue tragic: ponder has a new chick. non ddr shick UnCauzi: lol UnCauzi: be like hi i'm a negroe SpiderDan: tragic: what happened to ponder's non-english speaking ddr girl? UnCauzi: here to fulfill dirty little azn girl fantasies santOkgI: spider, okay, yun is a CS/EE major and MIT is infamous for guys being CS majors as in computer science Myke`: does ASIAN have to be capitalized like that? SpiderDan: sant: i get it now santOkgI: she started dating video gamers after seh met teh capcom crew santOkgI: but her current BF she met thru AA that just happens to play CS rswafk: mike: she was clarifying it Myke`: ok Myke`: (i'm not paranoid, btw) rswafk: YOU STUPID ASS Myke`: (really) santOkgI: gurls are the ONLY ppl who should play para para para SpiderDan: PPP is gay santOkgI: uncauzi, I think fighting games interest many women but they are deterred by society and social stereotypes to from pursuing them Myke`: i should film this one indo guy that plays para hardcore Myke`: makes you want to cry santOkgI: DDR was invented for gurls 'n guys . . . guys pick up chicks showing off their hella good moves SpiderDan: sant: I could say the same about guys and knitting Myke`: anyway *** Signoff: Myke` (Time wasted: 3 hours 1 minute 19 seconds) santOkgI: spider, yes and so do guys pplay DDR w/o teahing SpiderDan: spider: and guys play fighting games without teaching santOkgI: tragic, yah h esold his DDR machine =( rswafk: jhk knits, that was a stunner SpiderDan: I am spider. therefore that shoudl be addressed to sant. santOkgI: spider, he's dating his chinese intern now . . Qte gurl I hear santOkgI: i predicted it ./ . . except instead of japanese intern she's chinese SpiderDan: other girl was attractive santOkgI: DDR chickie was japanese SpiderDan: oh well dodee: mmm...japanese. SpiderDan: she had japanese teeth but pobody's nerfect santOkgI: Myke technically it's lika AsIaN or AZN or AzN bleh . . . it follows no rules dodee: yech santOkgI: except alternate caps DevilRei: I'd teach guys who wanted to learn FV2... but... dodee: jteeth are for the birds. santOkgI: unlike siLEspeak which has RULES! DevilRei: mu. santOkgI wants to learn how to knit SpiderDan: FV2 = fighting vipers 2? SpiderDan: that game has rules? SpiderDan: and strategy? whooaaa santOkgI: in boston there was this Qte hcikcie santOkgI: shoko . . .she played a killer aoi . . . santOkgI: she was ping's GF . . . *** ghostdog (rj6971@host-209-214-128-190.jax.bellsouth.net) has joined channel #vfhome santOkgI: but ping dumpeed her for a non-VF chickie who can't stand video games *sigh* santOkgI liked playing against shoko =) santOkgI: dude UnCauzi: fighting games attract many women? UnCauzi: nah UnCauzi: lol santOkgI: the only gurls I know who took it upon themselves to learn fighting games are jhk and yun UnCauzi: i can't buy that santOkgI: they did their own HW and practiced santOkgI: but u guys hog the machine . . . SpiderDan: jhk and yun did it themselves? UnCauzi: that's like one of those "they'd like it if they tried it things" *** Xiliphore (YourNick@h24-69-196-96.cc.shawcable.net) has joined channel #vfhome santOkgI: we're lucky to get scrub rounds UnCauzi: i think most chicks don't like fighters Xiliphore: hey all UnCauzi: or video games in general *** INH- (InsertName@ACC122AD.ipt.aol.com) has joined channel #vfhome santOkgI: but it's not like japan where the chickies rock in fighting games santOkgI: but it's also a different culture UnCauzi: at least in US santOkgI: more chickies play video games in asia compared to states SpiderDan: I think the % of good girls is pretty similar in japan SpiderDan: more people play period santOkgI: i don't think it's a valid argument saying chickies don't like fighting video games . . . santOkgI: completely on a simplistic sense at least SpiderDan: sant: statistically it is accurate santOkgI: i think gurls can inherently like fihgting games SpiderDan: outside of girls who I meet at tournaments santOkgI: but that potential has to be developed by the culture and experience santOkgI: if that potential isn't developed it turns into shopping, gurlie stuff SpiderDan: I've met less than 2 figthing game playing girls ever UnCauzi: i met 2 santOkgI: if they grow up as tomboys playing video games, stickball, i think they are just as likely to like playing fighting games UnCauzi: and they were both fat UnCauzi: obese even SpiderDan: unc: one was fat DevilRei: heh SpiderDan: actualyl exactly 2 santOkgI: yun would practice SF combos UnCauzi: actually i knew ONE SpiderDan: one was fat the other was pretty hot UnCauzi: that was FOINE UnCauzi: played mvc2 UnCauzi: and had a boyfreind DevilRei: I played NES since age 7 so... I've pretty much been hooked for life ^^; santOkgI: yun is the only gurl I know who can SPoD and DLC SpiderDan: both learned from former bfs UnCauzi: and she could actually play SpiderDan: both were ok UnCauzi: she almost beat me too SpiderDan: one was a tk2 player and the other was a mk2 player santOkgI: spider, statististically it's accurate but how are those stats influenced? UnCauzi: which isn't no big feat *** Xiliphore has left channel #vfhome santOkgI: culture of playing video games in states isn't as hardcore or prevalent in asia UnCauzi: duh SpiderDan: sant: guys play fighting games without any special help santOkgI: there's a coupple of VF chickies on VFDC santOkgI: there's a couple of SF chickies on SRK santOkgI: there would be more . .. UnCauzi: hah DevilRei: Actually, I think there's just me on VFDC. UnCauzi: there's chicks in #capcom UnCauzi: that don't even play SF *** PING delay for dodee: 1 seconds santOkgI: but I think those chickies were fortunate to be exposed toe the game somehow . . . and pursued it and mebbe had help along the way DevilRei: Since I dun think ye post there SpiderDan: exactly santOkgI: jhk learned TK on her own . . . before she met tragic SpiderDan: uncauzi: on SRK there are like 5 girls who never play SF santOkgI: yun learend SF on her own before capcom UnCauzi: true SpiderDan: I've never seen gummydrop, chunli play SF at all UnCauzi: but they like their advantages santOkgI: well yun pracrtided SF on her own after she met capcom but had no help from guys santOkgI: YUN refuses help from guys . . . rswafk: DODEE SpiderDan: sant: I had no help for a long time santOkgI: she can do everything on her own and kick most guys butts SpiderDan: why shoudl girls need help? santOkgI: spider, guys spend more hours playing fighting games santOkgI: gurls spend more time shopping santOkgI: is that innate or culturally influenced? UnCauzi: well santOkgI: it could be said to be a combination . . . UnCauzi: i know the girl i know that plays mvc2 SpiderDan: sant: so if I spend more time doing something wouldn't I be more likely to be better at it? UnCauzi: spends more time playing than i do santOkgI: but I think there's a ppotential within chickies to like fighting games butr it's just not developed santOkgI: b/c US culture doesn't promote it UnCauzi: so what are you saying UnCauzi: we should say SpiderDan: sant: I think ppl do what they like to do santOkgI: uncauzi, well those chickies are the groupies and video game hos . . . UnCauzi: HEY GIRLS! Stop shopping and play fighting games! santOkgI: i tke that back just one of them is that i know of santOkgI: spider, do you support affirmative action? UnCauzi: i was about to say *** Signoff: rswafk (...) UnCauzi: you're opressing your own fellow female gamer UnCauzi: with that comment santOkgI: there's an imbalance that's been created and perpetuated by stereotypes and societal gender role expectations SpiderDan: sant: how many (what %) girls do you think would prefer to spend a day playing fighting games than doing something else they normally do (e.g. shopping) SpiderDan: sant: depends on the affirmative action santOkgI: to change that imbalance to tilt the scale the other way . . . uneed some assistance . . . santOkgI: u'd like to think it's all merit based but life isn't that straightforward UnCauzi: i'm not sure what santokgi is argueing or saying anymore santOkgI: politics ';n krap UnCauzi: what's the point SpiderDan: sant: we aren't talking about jobs, or education... we're talking about leisure. you want affirmative action in leisure activities? santOkgI: spider, a combination of innate talent/interest and hours of practice makes for a good player SpiderDan: if you enjoy whatever it is you are doing isn't that the point? santOkgI: or for somebody to be good at anything UnCauzi: i think that's what she's saying santOkgI: uncauzi, but how do we find out what we like to do? santOkgI: we try everything UnCauzi: uh huh UnCauzi: u try it santOkgI: and then some thing clicks or something influences us to pursue it more UnCauzi: and if you like it UnCauzi: that's what u do santOkgI: i'm not saying chickies are weak SpiderDan: sant let me ask you a question UnCauzi: you're saying you have no minds of your own santOkgI: i'm saying chickies don't have the same access to the fighting video games and have an uphill battle to prove themselves and find those resources on their own UnCauzi: or no initiative of your own santOkgI: versus these gaming communities and comradery u guys have UnCauzi: girls have the internet santOkgI: gurls have their gossip/shopping network santOkgI: u guys have ur gaming forum network santOkgI: both have access to internet UnCauzi: girls are welcome there to UnCauzi: gaming forum network? santOkgI: c'mon UnCauzi: wtf is that UnCauzi: lol santOkgI: with a bunch of guys hogging the machine santOkgI: no gurl is going to go up and challenge them unless they are like yun UnCauzi: yes santOkgI: or in japan UnCauzi: that's their problem SpiderDan: you say that society influences girls not to play. this same society tells us that video games are for kids. yet there are older and older guys playing now UnCauzi: i know girls that do UnCauzi: and they don't even play games *** rsw (foops@sdn-ar-002nypougP240.dialsprint.net) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o rsw" for channel #vfhome by AwayEug rsw: come oooonnnnn rsw: play! CreeD: well that was a fun session. CreeD: nah my sister has to use the PC UnCauzi: she's saying girls aren't brave enuff to engage themselves in gaming social circles santOkgI: enjoying is the point but what if society makes it harder for you to enjoy those things? dodee: I dont think most are dodee: would you roll up on a buncha girls and say "lets go shopping?" santOkgI: is the avg chickie going to put the extra effort to make the initiative to try something that's harder? UnCauzi: if i was in a mall UnCauzi: that i frequented santOkgI: it's like more men professors in colleges santOkgI: women are trying UnCauzi: and saw the same girls all the time Goom: only girls I know that game ask what the analog sticks do when they grab the controller rsw: haha whee fuck off, too santOkgI: and just as equally qualified UnCauzi: i would roll up on the girls and talk to them DevilRei: Dude santOkgI: but even the 90s have it hard for women to break that ratio . . . gender role stereotype DevilRei: I barge in on whatever gaming circle I damn well please. UnCauzi: shit i don't roll up on a bunch of guys i don't know and say "lets go play some video games!" Goom: you go girl santOkgI: i didn't say gurls have no mind of their own CreeD: wtg dudette INH-: dudette INH-: hey! santOkgI: the developers are appealing to all markets now . . .in designing their games INH-: creed you play sc? santOkgI: there's quake gurls who are hella good too SpiderDan: I don't see the stereotype thing working santOkgI: they exist but how come so few? INH-: PING? PONG! SpiderDan: in a job market you can say "they won't hire me" SpiderDan: in video games it is solely up to you santOkgI: i think it's rare b/c those gurls are fortunate to have had a good exposure to games . . .and pursue and develop that interest SpiderDan: you want to play? put up your token. exactly that simple CreeD: inh: soul calibur? please!? CreeD: eheh SpiderDan: there is no one holding you back santOkgI: most of the rest of the gurls haven't been as fortunate . . .so any way to tip the odds in favor for giving gurls more access to fighting games or resources to develop that interest is all I'm asking . . . INH-: dammit creed CreeD: actually I heard it's a good game, but I need to play VF more bewfore moving on. SpiderDan: which is the reason for affirmative action in other areas INH-: starcraft CreeD: ohhh CreeD: I loved the original, laff SpiderDan: in video gaming it's an excuse IMO CreeD: haven't played since then UnCauzi: i never understood such game solidarity INH-: but sc is okay.......okay but im not very fond of it... UnCauzi: SC is coming? INH-: haha UnCauzi: cool i'll play it and vf SpiderDan: I don't like soul calibur rsw: sant, there's no point in 'discussing' things with spider and unc - otherwise you will be here all night going in circles. dodee even warned you, before santOkgI: spider, right it's solely up to u but lemme ask u INH-: i usually dont play anything with a block button INH-: i made an exception for vf4 and sc UnCauzi: i play....everything santOkgI: spider, do u take the path of least resistance or always try to do things the hard way? SpiderDan: sant: I take the path of maximum benefit CreeD: block buttons are useful, as are dodge buttons. I like the reliability of it. UnCauzi: shit i do play everything UnCauzi: i gotta get out of gaming INH-: i dont UnCauzi: it takes to much of my time UnCauzi: i play all the fps games UnCauzi: all the fighters santOkgI: rich, thanks for the warning I'm jsut realizing htat . . . I'm slow remember =b CreeD: inh: you don't like the reliability of it? :p SpiderDan: so hard/easy way depends on the reward INH-: i think you have to go out of your way to hit the block button UnCauzi: ....well that's it UnCauzi: still a lot though santOkgI: spider, well how much benefit does the avg gurl see in learning to pla ya fighting game? INH-: i got hooked on sc today though santOkgI: guys can enjoy video games and the challenge of proving themselves INH-: (starcraft) INH-: yep SpiderDan: sant: no more the same benefit I see. doing something that you enjoy dodee: its like any gender-dominated thing dodee: more guys play video games, especially fighters santOkgI: gurls are expected to go shopping and when they try to play video games, guys laugh at them for not having dexterity or being committed to the game so there's no respect dodee: there's no arguing that SpiderDan: never ever have I EVER seen a girl get laughed at in ANY GAME dodee: and guys are WAY more likely to be good at them, cause they've been playing games all their lives santOkgI: unless the gurl works on her own and proves herself or has help from environment like in japan . . . lots of resources, promoted by culture, help from all fwiends guys 'n gurls SpiderDan: which is really ironic because GUYS regularly get called scrubs dodee: casually playing girls get mercy where guys would't dodee: any special treatment is all jenny means UnCauzi: it's not girls that get no respect UnCauzi: MASHERS get no respect UnCauzi: if a girl mashes she will be treated like a masher santOkgI: dodee, yah . . but i think gurls have that potential it's just not developed and pursuied so it's wasted dodee: ...I think UnCauzi: gender has nothing to do with it SpiderDan: sant: the potential is up to the person dodee: well of course they hve the same potential UnCauzi: experience does SpiderDan: I may have lots of figure skating potential SpiderDan: but I'll never find out because I'm busy playing fighting games santOkgI: dodee, if you give yun a mercy round she'll beat the krap outta ya UnCauzi: actually i think spiderdan may be the best figure skater in the world nanq1: blah blah blahhh.......evryone play quake! be happy :> nanq1: im ready' UnCauzi: just never pursued santOkgI: she refuses to get mercy rounds . . . she doesn't need it dodee: hence the "casually playing" UnCauzi: noone pushed him in that direction santOkgI: she's very self-sufficient rsw: nan: back? nanq1: yeah dodee: if I played regularly with girls, I wouldn't ease up CreeD: ok, server is on the way dodee: but the times that a girl DID play vf that I didn't know, I admit I went easier UnCauzi: hah CreeD: we'll even play something different. UnCauzi: i played soul calibur against a girl all the time UnCauzi: shadowivy UnCauzi: i think her name was UnCauzi: owned her on the reg though she was pretty good UnCauzi: but i think if she was pretty i'd have let her win a few CreeD: same IP SpiderDan: I think girls actually get more encouragement CreeD: 142.167.17.27 DevilRei: Hmmm SpiderDan: when they do play santOkgI: spider, ia gree potential is upto the person but most ppl do what's easy .. . and if it's harder to go up to the SF machine to put ur token in front of hardcore SF guys, not as easy to talk to other chickies/guys about game strategy/stats, and society expects u to just be pretty and smart . . . then . . . UnCauzi: especially if they are cute santOkgI: i think most gurls are smart to do what's easier . . . santOkgI: who wants to make their life more difficult than it has to be? UnCauzi: shit talk about hard DevilRei: I think about 1/3 the FV players overseas I know are gals... dunno about VFers... UnCauzi: i played hockey SpiderDan: any girls that make any sort of attempt at learning have 428768237 guys trying to help UnCauzi: and i'm black UnCauzi: lol dodee: hahaha SpiderDan: unc: lol SpiderDan: did you get sticked in the head? *** Signoff: rsw (...) dodee: he went all bambi and shit UnCauzi: lol santOkgI: spider, that's only teh girls who ALREADY have taken the initiative on their own UnCauzi: played tennis too santOkgI: or had a positive expereince growing up UnCauzi: golf dodee: I should teach you golf. UnCauzi: i'm good at golf now man SpiderDan: sant: if I went to guys asking them strategy questions, and a girl asks strategy questions, neither of us knowing any of them, who gets more help? SpiderDan: that is so obvious as to be stupid santOkgI: spider, yes i agree with u on that SpiderDan: so what's the problem? ChoiBoy: waaaaasabi santOkgI: all i'm saying is gurls and guys have = potential for interest in fighting games and depending upon experience from nurture/environmental factors can influence their decision to pursue that interest and the resources needed to develop that interest santOkgI: that's is all dodee: all she said is that girls are culturally handicapped to play/be good at games SpiderDan: ...ok. dodee: that's totally undeniable ChoiBoy: waaaaasaaaaabi tragic: ive never seen a girl get laughed at either tragic: sorry, i was scrolling up. didnt know you guys were still talking about it SpiderDan: dodee: I deny it ChoiBoy: tough crowd dodee: oh puhleeeeeeease SpiderDan: it's not a job. you don't have to convince someone to let you play santOkgI: tragic hehe SpiderDan: if you want to play you play dodee: girls playing video games is like guys sewing or something santOkgI: geez l. . . santOkgI: let's find something that's hard for guys santOkgI: spider do U cook? dodee: games are automatically attributed to guys tragic: why are video games "hard" for girls? santOkgI: are u expected to cook? tragic: you only need to try dodee: dont play cooking off as effeminate. =) SpiderDan: dodee: not adult guys dodee: they aren't hard, they're *culturally* handicapped santOkgI: a gourmet feast and take care of kids and multi-task with domestic chores? santOkgI: do u think u are capable of doing that? dodee: how many girls our age do you know that grew up playing games? SpiderDan: how many times do non-vg playing adults tell you games are for kids? santOkgI: have u tried developing htat? SpiderDan: but I make my way through it dodee: I know literally NONE in real life dodee: that's not true, 2 santOkgI: dodee EXACTLY . . .and why is that? SpiderDan: sant: if I liked doing it I would dodee: its just a western cultural thing, dunno. tragic: i met a chick in texas last week that grew up playing video games!!! santOkgI: dodee, but gurls 'n guys are both capable of learning how to sew *** rsw (foops@sdn-ar-002nypougP240.dialsprint.net) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o rsw" for channel #vfhome by AwayEug dodee: anyone who argues otherwise is either ignorant or just wants to argue santOkgI: or have that raw potential nanq1: hahah that was short CreeD: yeah, another ball of fun with rich. rsw: fuck off SpiderDan: but you are comparing something of practical value with leisure activities SpiderDan: name a leisure activity that girls do dodee: fine, sub shopping SpiderDan: strictly leisure santOkgI: spider, mebbe ur the exception CreeD: yeah, I'll fuck off for trying everything you suggested last night. SpiderDan: no practical value CreeD: what an asshole I am. rsw: that thing with the pent was such a perfect example SpiderDan: shopping is practical, I do it. rsw: oh, what? pick a stage YOU YOURSELF said sucks? DevilRei: Boy Band merchandise collecting *** DanTheMan (DanTheMan@ip-207-198-222-20.nyc.ny.fcc.net) has joined channel #vfhome dodee: shopping for FUN isn't practical santOkgI: spider, but how did you like video games? didn't haveing access to it growing up, playing with fwiends, and it being accepted help that develop? rsw: then get all "sigh" when i say "blah" CreeD: what thing with the pent? you're sitting there waiting for it, I shot you before you could run into it. dodee: chicks go try on 80 pairs of shoes and dont buy any rsw: i COULDN'T EVEN SEE YOU santOkgI: tragic, whoo-hoo! rsw: you were just THERE SpiderDan: dodee: trying on shoes works CreeD: rsw: you said yourself it was OK, but suddenly, it was crap. rsw: i was fucking LOOKING UP santOkgI: cooking is a leisure activity! *** Signoff: DanTheMan () DevilRei: SiLE, nobody else in my class played games seriously when I was in first and second grade, but I didn't care SpiderDan: sant: "it being accepted" is completely irrelevant CreeD: rsw: you can't see me because. .. why? lag? what the fuck are you bothering to complain and bitch about LAG for? you're on a modem for god's sake. Accept it and shut up already. dodee: no it isn't CreeD: I don't hear sal: "this is crap, wah wah." nanq1: lol SpiderDan: most ppl I know stopped playing video games as much as I do in the 9th grade santOkgI: Rei, U go gurl! CreeD: so I get one lucky frag to start the match, give it more than 4 minutes, jesus. dodee: like 90% of guys grew up with games rsw: it was not lucky, it was arbitrary dodee: like 5% of girls did or something santOkgI: spider, if I didn't grow up on a guy neighborhood playing video games,s tickball, concrete tag, I wouldn't be playing VF today CreeD: why use semantics to distract from the real topic? santOkgI: I would probably be a shopaholic dodee: I agree with you jenny, ignore professor argumentative. =) santOkgI: it's tahnks to the guys who let me play with them and teach me video games that I was able to learn that I could enjoy playing video games CreeD: you ask me to change things, I do. Do you see now that what you REALLY want changed isn't anything I can help, namely ping? rsw: hah rsw: by picking a stage which you yourself said sucks ass? DevilRei: meep CreeD: who gives a fuck what I think of it? What's that matter? dodee: quake sure sounds fun, boy do I feel like I'm missing out santOkgI: my fwiends who are gurls have that same potential but didn't have the same good promoting exposure to video games . . . and hence they to the things that were promoted like shopping, cooking, etc tragic: sant so? whats that have to do with anything. if i didnt grow up in an area where games were big (aka norcal) then i wouldnt be playign games now either CreeD: I chose it because in your exact words "dm3's okay for FFA" CreeD: I was trying to come up with something other than dm6 or 4, which sal didn't want to do. rsw: agahghg i meant dm5 SpiderDan: first of all. many professional cooks are men. throw out cooking nanq1: yeah was getting tired of em SpiderDan: second. many clothing designers are men. so not sure of your point rsw: dm3 is a joke on ffa, only good for teams rsw: also for 1on1 dodee: oh jesus *** number_6 has left channel #vfhome nanq1: we should d/l some new maps dodee: dan, that's just goofy CreeD: well, why fucking bitch at me for your typo last night? jesus. rsw: as in a joke for 1on1 as well dodee: clothing designers are like..... 0.00000001% of the population nanq1: we should d/l some new maps *** Myke` (mike@c16826.farfl1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o Myke`" on #vfhome by AwayEug santOkgI: tragic, I'm just saying that gurls and guys are born with raw potential to like everything . . . shopping or video games, but the environment/experience u have growing up can nurture different interests and hence U develop and pursue different things based upon those cultural/environmental factors SpiderDan: dodee: it annoys me when you stick in little points here and there and then when I dispute them you dismiss me as arguing for the sake of arguing. either get in the discussion or stay out CreeD: sal: yeah, I like ukool and ultrav, but we should try some maps that are less like the bad place. rsw: dm7 dodee: dont give me rules, slut santOkgI: spider, how many CEOs,CTOs, CFOs are women? dodee: I'll interject as I see fit dodee: and you'll like it. santOkgI: how many top tier of anything are women? SpiderDan: sant: what does that have to do with LEISURE santOkgI: why is that? SpiderDan: as I said CreeD: yaaay, dodee and dan arguing. I can't wait for the hot KB action. SpiderDan: LEISURE is not JOB tragic: raw potential? technically, arent girls better with hand/eye? like they can think about multiple things at once. wouldnt that make girls BETTER at video games.. if they put their minds to it? tragic: and actually tried Myke`: hot chicks = top tier dodee: I dot need to kb amateurs santOkgI: is it because women aren't capable of being the top or b/c it's harder to get their b/c of environmental factors? CreeD: n yo dot. dodee: jenny isn't arguing ABILITY Myke`: marissa tomei = grand emperor rsw: no one wanted to try dm7, dunno why the fuck not santOkgI: spider, imagine society was a female dominated society tragic: marrissa tomei isnt grand emperor wtf dodee: she's arguing culturally-imposed likelihood at uncovering that ability Myke`: she is in my kingdom tragic: omg every day would be HUG DAY santOkgI: president was woman, escorts and prostitutes were guys, all top professionals were women . . . CreeD: rsw: gosh perhaps because when I asked you.. . TWICE... what you wanted to play, you didn't fucking mention it. dodee: I dont understand how someone can NOT understand that point CreeD: that's why there was no DM7. dodee: liek unc's point about black people and hockey rsw: i said 'whatever' dodee: how many pro ice hockey players are there? rsw: and i did not mean RIGHT NOW rsw: i meant when i brought it up before dodee: is it because they aren't able to be good at it? santOkgI: would u find it difficult to move up the ladder in a matriarchical society? CreeD: yes, whatever's a nice catchall to whatever the fucking whatever it is you mean. nanq1: ppl, end of discussion. girls suck at games, "period!" (no pun intended) :> nanq1: :> dodee: of course not DevilRei: T_T tragic: yea i know. im not disagreeing. im just saying that girls can be just as good at video games as guys. they need to get over what society thinks and just do it. thassit CreeD: sal, that was tacky. rsw: everyone gave some bullshit reason so i just gave up Myke`: nan heh nanq1: yeah i know nanq1: it was meant to be CreeD: nobody gave any bullshit but you. nanq1: :> dodee: ben: yeah, you aren't. dodee: someone else is tragic: hehe SpiderDan: OK let's look at affirmative action. what is the point? making it so that larger variety of people get into schools and get jobs rsw: dude i suggested it a bunch of times rsw: everyone went "no@!@!!@" tragic: i like girls that play video games. especially ones that "understand" them. and actually WANT to be better rsw: whateverrr dodee: videogames hae so shit to do with affirmative action. CreeD: when did you suggest it? last month? what the fuck, I asked you INGAME what you wanted to play. santOkgI: tragic, good point on the innate capabilities =) DevilRei: screw understanding them. SpiderDan: so what "affirmative action" could there be for videogames? DevilRei: I'm going to MAKE them. CreeD: three simple characters were all you had to type, but you go out of your way to make a smartass remark instead CreeD: so you forfeit the right to complain about stage. dodee: as more girls grow up playing games, more girls will play games, dan santOkgI: tragic, so if gurls have the innate traits for better hand/eye or multi-tasking, why are there fewer gurls playing video games where these traits would help them excel? SpiderDan: "uhh, you have to go to the arcade today, whether you like it or not" SpiderDan: ? dodee: as with ANYTHING that ther's a stereotype for SpiderDan: sant: because they don't like it? rsw: i said whatever' CreeD: yes, I heard you the first three times. INH-: heyyyyyyyyyy CreeD: maybe more specific would help next time. dodee: videogames aren't 50/50 solely because of culture, that's the only reason. dodee: next topic! SpiderDan: dodee: let me ask you a question. why are guys still supposed to initiate relationship activity? INH-: whens vf4 coming out for ps2? CreeD: inh: tomorrow dodee: dan: good fucking quesiton INH-: really? dodee: cause culturally, that's how it works santOkgI runs up to tragic to give him a hugZwugZ CreeD: inh: nope, I made it up dodee: but with that too, more girls are takig the initiative INH-: i thought it was the 23rd for some reason INH-: i think youdid.... SpiderDan: ok. is that something to complain about? CreeD: inh: then it probably is... I dunno, I already got mine CreeD: but I'll be snatching that us version right up. dodee: I'd rather girls were more aggressive that way, shouldn't be the guy's duty Myke`: dan: because women are, in general, chicken-shits santOkgI: dodee, yes =) INH-: ohhh SpiderDan: dodee: why? Myke`: and men are more desperate dodee: as jenny drilled into my head the other day =) dodee: dan: why what? santOkgI: nobody forced me to play video games dodee: why wouldn't guys want more girls to take that initiative? SpiderDan: I'd rather girls were more aggressive that way <- why would you prefer this? nanq1: weird combo of the month: TFT, knee, d+p+k, d/b+pkg, u/b+kg = 83 poits....on akira only!! 77 on others santOkgI: i was just LUCKY to have guys introduce them to me and share their joy in playing them SpiderDan: why can't you just do it clo: hurrah for IBM global IT solutions dodee: I'm missing your point clo: they got the exchange server back up dodee: if there is one clo: wow dodee: which I'm doubting. DevilRei: dodee. Myke`: nan, wanna know why? because akira is bare foot DevilRei: Let's get married. SpiderDan: my point is, if guys didn't make the advances they wouldn't be made santOkgI: spider, society has always expected guys to make the first move but the 90s tried to change that so thatwomen could too . . . DevilRei: NOW. dodee: I'd LIKE for people to walk up to me on the street and give me $50, too CreeD: I shouldn't jump in, but anyway. My impression is that girls are able to attract a guy more easily than the other way around, given comparable looks/personality. Guys have a stronger biological drive to get laid. So maybe that's why they start the relationships. dodee: why? uh, gee, cause I like MONEY dodee: duhhhhhh nanq1: mike , lol SpiderDan: dodee: exactly! Myke`: nan, well, i tried :) SpiderDan: so why do you play video games? dodee: how does your line of questioning make that point? CreeD: sal: why more damage on akira? it has to be a 'height from the floor' thing? dodee: to get bitches, man! SpiderDan: BECAUSE YOU WANT TO Myke`: creed, and interrupt throws exist dodee: ... SpiderDan: why do guys ask out girls? nanq1: well i tried it on evryone Myke`: some moves can be thrown out of execution SpiderDan: BECAUSE THEY WANT TO rsw: do we want to try dm7? SpiderDan: not any sort of societal pressure dodee: CAUSE GIRLS DONT DO IT CreeD: myke: specifically some moves? crazy dodee: hah Myke`: creed yes dodee: ohhh bullllllshit santOkgI: spider, but gurls want to make advances CreeD: myke: oh well, I lose. dodee: there's no societal pressure for guys to ask girls out? SpiderDan: dodee: to be specific. because they want sex and if they don't ask they won't get it dodee: what planet are you from? clo: /ignore all all santOkgI: spider, but they are perceived desperate and it's not socially as accepted yet for gurls to ask guys CreeD: heh nanq1: anyone wanna retest it out nanq1: ? nanq1: like now CreeD: sal: I'm bored, I might as well. nanq1: :. dodee: rei: I'm not ready for a relationship of that magnitude. CreeD: bbias. nanq1: yahoo! SpiderDan: dodee: no there is not. if I don't want to ask anyone out then that simply means I deprive myself of sex nanq1: thanks Myke`: anyone for inklink? nanq1: i wanna reconfirm Myke`: i promise, no porn this time dodee: you have your head up yo...in the clouds dodee: there's NO pressure for guys to be the ones to ask girls out? CreeD: myke: actually that sounds good dodee: how many guys do you think get asked out by girls? SpiderDan: dodee: what happens if they don't? CreeD: let's start out with #vfhome/vfers inklink if it's just me and you. DevilRei: Myke: ME ME santOkgI: girls may want to but they may not know they like video games until they've been exposed to it and had a good positive experience SpiderDan: dodee: nothing! SpiderDan: nothing happens! clo: inklink! DevilRei jumps up and down clo: inklink! rsw: errr CreeD: oh ho Myke`: creed you create it rsw: quake dodee: yeah, and that's not pressure? Myke`: ? CreeD: sure clo: but... clo: i can't play right now dodee: "you have to do it, or it doesn't get done" isn't pressure? SpiderDan: how is that pressure?????? clo: i'm at work Myke`: just finishing up an email clo: i'm leaveing for home now though Myke`: btias clo: be back on in like 30 min santOkgI: myke ughhg clo: then.... inklink! SpiderDan: no, it isn't pressure dodee: I'm done arguing til you make sense CreeD: lol inklink review: CreeD: the game is kool but the loading is more stupid than the most stupid thing in the moast dullesed world!! santOkgI: myke porn on inklink? what were u drawing siLE? Myke`: /ignore clo SpiderDan: no more than anything else clo: ;_; Myke`: santOkgI: oh, you missed out clo bitchslaps myke santOkgI: me 5 =) SpiderDan: if you want it done then you have to do it. what a novel concept Myke`: too bad, so sad santOkgI: inklinke santOkgI: clo play inklink clo bitchslaps myke clo bitchslaps myke CreeD: what difficulty? I vote for mixed bag. dodee: your perception of societal influece is severely skewed clo: can't. i'm at work. leaving now. Myke`: creed ditto clo: i'll get on when i get home in 30 min clo bitchslaps myke dodee: or you live in utopialand rsw: wtf happened to quake? santOkgI: ughh dodee: one of the two Myke` can't see clo santOkgI: creed expert or mixed =) SpiderDan: dodee: I don't believe in excuse making for actions that are totally completely self controlled santOkgI: clo we'll wait for u =) clo bitchslaps myke and yes you can see this bitch Myke`: clo: hello? you there? :) CreeD: rsw: I'll make a server if you want, but I'm still done for the night. clo bitchslaps myke and yes you can see this bitch rsw: sal and i were in before any mention of inklink rsw: oh, great santOkgI: sppider, then U live in HELL - a world without human interaction dodee: just because society influences your actions doesn't remove all atonomy from it nanq1: yah santOkgI: to be influenced by others and environment *** feixaq (fx@slip-32-102-233-142.fl.us.prserv.net) has joined channel #vfhome dodee: "fuck it, if no girls are gonna ask me out, I'll sit alone" clo bitchslaps myke and yes you can see this bitch santOkgI: hey feixaQ dodee: that's iteresting. *** Mode change "+o feixaq" on #vfhome by santOkgI Myke`: autonomy clo bitchslaps myke and yes you can see this bitch SpiderDan: when you start blaming society for why you don't do a certain leisure activity, or why you don't ask out girls, you have lost all concept of self-responsibility clo: aiight outty bbiab clo bitchslaps myke and yes you can see this bitch Myke`: can someone tell clo that i miss him Myke`: he's not replying Myke`: :~ *** Goom is now known as Goom|Zzzz nanq1 plays "fuck her gently" from tenacious D... santOkgI: spider, someone once described hell as not ppitchforks scorching u by the devil but a world where everyone is selfish and in control of their lives but nobody to share it with or be influenced . . . santOkgI: if u are always in control . . . then u have a boring hellish life dodee: you ask girls out because you want to date girls, girls dont ask guys out because society dictates(ed) that is a sign of desperation, society dictates thta guys and girls are supposed to pair up, or you're some pariah, but THAT isn't pressure? rsw: sal? clo: you beeter acknoledge me rsw: still want to bother? clo: or else i'm going to mess up your vf3 system tables again SpiderDan: sant: I am not a relifious person. and somehow I view a life that I am in control of as preferable to one that I am not santOkgI: dodee, move to cali =) i'll hook u up . .. i can't guarantee she'll be as kewl as liv though but lotsa ddr chickies =) Myke`: if a girl asked me out, i wouldn't think she was desperate SpiderDan: *religious nanq1: well if creed gonna put a server i guess Myke`: but if she asked a friend of mine out, i would :) CreeD: I sure would CreeD: server's up guys CreeD: what map? dodee: I feel SO bad for dan's future kids CreeD: be specific. santOkgI: gosh . . . leisure activity means fun dodee: "well dan jr. it must be all your fault, because there's NOTHING with more influece than what you do yourself!" santOkgI: if society makes a leisure activity like fighting games hard to learn or have access to . . then the avg person is not going to want to WORK for that 'fun' santOkgI: geez clo goes to fuck up the vf3 system tables Myke`: lol Myke`: oops nanq1: ah shit, sis came back dodee: jenny: it's looking like I'm gonna have tos tart looking out there, actually santOkgI: dodee hallelujah! nanq1: damm dodee: sal, your sister hot? =) CreeD: she's asian too dodee santOkgI: myke, but she is raised to think that her asking u out is being desperate dodee: hey, I'm all for latinas, too. nanq1: i would be fucked in the brain if i say yes to that nanq1: :> SpiderDan: dodee: "man, I have to wash my clothes or they won't get clean? what if I don't want to wash them?" santOkgI: its the 00"s but not fully accepted or in practice SpiderDan: wtf SpiderDan: excuse making dodee: washing clothes is entirely different than playing a game SpiderDan: ANYTHING nanq1: gtg dodee: but yeah, if you were RAISED in a dirty society, washing clothes wouldn't be that big a deal nanq1: damm SpiderDan: the vast majority of things in my life get done because I choose to do them dodee: its a societal thing dan, just accept it dodee: I'm the first one to say "product of your society" is bullshit SpiderDan: but for some reason when it comes to girls and video games all self responsibility goes out tyhe window santOkgI: spider, but they are easy to do dodee: because people are incredibly autonomous santOkgI: spider, try doing something for fun that was hard . . . santOkgI: b/c society made it more difficult for u to learn or have access to . . . dodee: but there's NO denying that stuff like dating has rules that are culturally imposed dodee: that's just ignorant SpiderDan: sant: it is EASIER for girls to learn games. *** nanq1 has set the topic on channel #vfhome to girls get PMS and guys dont..... na na na na na :> *** CrewNYC (crewnyc@66-108-96-235.nyc.rr.com) has joined channel #vfhome nanq1: lol *** nanq1 has left channel #vfhome dodee: there ARE bigger things than what you choose, even if you aren't aware of it SpiderDan: dodee: I'm not talking abotu the rules as a whole. talking about initiation santOkgI: how much initiative would u take in investing ur time for a 'fun leisure' activity when the goal is to have fun and the activity is harder than expected b/c of environmental influences CrewNYC: la da de da *** Mode change "+o CrewNYC" on #vfhome by santOkgI santOkgI: hey crew dodee: people stick to what they know santOkgI: shoot CrewNYC: NE HO MA!? santOkgI ducks from dodee dodee: girls grow up shopping, they learn to like shopping, so that's what they do SpiderDan: if a girl wants to have sex. but she doesn't want to initiate. then she might get it anyway dodee: guys grow up playing games, so they stay more active with it CrewNYC: dodee: you saying all girls like to shop? SpiderDan: if a guy wants to have sex, but he doesn't want to initiate, then he's not having sex dodee: andy: you're late CrewNYC: hehe whats the topic of choice? santOkgI: spider, u ever watch the movie billy elliot? dodee: andy: and I'm not gonna fill you in, cause too much has transpired santOkgI: how many guy ballet dancers do you know? CrewNYC: hey chris we just had a great weekend with ice and shang in ny dodee: yeah, what jenny said santOkgI: billy elliot pursued ballet for the lovve of dancing dodee: and jenny, the op thing died. screw it SpiderDan: so if you call forcing people to actually do something when they want results as "societal restriction" so be it CrewNYC: how was the florida thing? Myke`: hey i watched billy elliot last night, lol SpiderDan: sant: no. *** Gelly27 (jaja@24-168-117-68.si.rr.com) has joined channel #vfhome rsw: um, no, let's keep the op thing dodee: of COURSE its societal, christ CrewNYC: creed: I dont think akira is too strong anymore CrewNYC: I know you considered him a pig dodee: rich: can i stop logging? rsw: sure SpiderDan: dodee: compared to REAL societal restrictions like not being able to get a job because of your gender, or not gettign into a school because of your race, it's a laughable joke not worth of consideration santOkgI: he had help from the ballet teacher who he was fortunate enough to have an eye for raw talent CreeD: come on myke. dodee: a laughable joke dodee: as opposed to a nonlaughable joke. santOkgI: billy had so much pressure from family to be a boxer not a ballet dancer SpiderDan: dodee: exactly Myke`: creed what dodee: its precisely the same, just not as important in the grand scheme of things dodee: there's a difference between accuracy and degree SpiderDan: it's totally controllable by yourself! SpiderDan: wtf dodee: no one's saying its IMPOSSIBLE for girls to get into games SpiderDan: I cannot control whether or not someone fails to hire me based on my gender. santOkgI: yet he had the courage to pursue and develop that talent b/c he was blessed with a combination of talent, fate in meeting that teacher late after boxing practice, and her generosity/openmindedness to invest in training him to develop his talent dodee: we're saying its unlikely SpiderDan: I have TOTAL CONTROL of if I take up knitting. santOkgI: myke good movie dodee: ok wait, I can end this with one question. CrewNYC: girls are amazing gamers in many cases CreeD: sure dodee dodee: why dont more girls play games? rsw: but in most cases, they suck CrewNYC: but its a very unsexy thing dodee: why isn't it 50/50? SpiderDan: because they don't enjoy playing them. santOkgI: dodee exactly! dodee: why DONT they enjoy playing it dan? santOkgI: rich, i agree . . . i suck at VF =) dodee: the same fucking reason guys dont get off on shopping for strappy shoes CrewNYC: if tons of girls played a game they would enjoy it santOkgI: but I still have fun playing it =) SpiderDan: why don't more asians play football? why don't more blacks play hockey? dodee: CULTURE santOkgI: i just don't have the time to invest and I'm way behind on the learning curve dodee: thank you for making my point santOkgI: but it's still fun =) santOkgI: gurls love games . . .puzzle games santOkgI: so do guys santOkgI: guys can be just as good at bust a move and puzzle games SpiderDan: dodee: fine. but where's the uproar of all the black hockey players that try to get into the NHL dodee: australians play rugby, americans dont (on the same scale) why? culture. santOkgI: but most guys suck at bust a move compared to gurls rsw: sorry spidey, you walked into that one. give up now. dodee: where's the uproar of girls that wanna play games? SpiderDan: oh, that's right, there isn't any, because THEY DON'T LIKE IT dodee: it doesn't exist dodee: dan, you're done SpiderDan: EXACTLY CrewNYC: Quake girls dodee: tko santOkgI: and most chickies will rock guys in puzzle games versus guys rocking them in fighting games . . . CrewNYC: one of the top 10 quake players was a girl dodee: they dont like it because they aren't exposed to the same degree as guys are SpiderDan: false dodee: how is that false? santOkgI: different experiences promoting different types of games to pursue and access to difference resources to develop those interests SpiderDan: well. not supported dodee: how many girls do you know your age that grew up with an NES? SpiderDan: they have all the same opportunities dodee: that was THEIRS SpiderDan: excuses. how many could have had one if they asked? CrewNYC: dodee's on a mission CrewNYC: :) santOkgI: crew woot! dodee: opportunity has shit to do with cultural likelihood CreeD: he ended it with one question, see!? rsw: dodee, dan is done, don't continue to get pulled back down santOkgI: spider ughh! dodee: asians have every opportunity to play football dodee: yet they dont santOkgI: spider, I hope u don't have a daughter . . . CrewNYC: asians arent built for it dodee: I hope he doesn't procreate period CrewNYC: were too skinny and fragile *** Signoff: feixaq () dodee: andy: that's just you santOkgI: spider, if she likes to shop and hates video games . . . u'll be hurt . . and not understand why . . . SpiderDan: asians have every opportunity to play football <- so why are you complaing about all the asians that aren't playing football! that's what you're doing with girls and agmes! dodee: some asians are fairly rugged. bolo yeung SpiderDan: "TKO" CrewNYC: he's a mutant santOkgI: asians play volleyball dodee: I'm not complaining that girls dont tragic: ... SpiderDan: "TKO" dodee: I'm justifying why they dont santOkgI: u don't have the single person athleticism so u focus on team sports CrewNYC: tragic you guys still playing vf4? or has it died? dodee: they COULD if they wated to dodee: but they dont, and "they dont like it" is just stupid santOkgI: haha rsw: spidey, now you're just putting mangling words and putting words into his mouth rsw: gah that came out nice rsw: mangled that one dodee: every girl out there that doesn't play games doesn't SOLELY because they dont like them tragic: santokgi is cool cause she plays video games. jhk is cool cause she plays video games. yun is cool cause she plays video games. girl i met in texas owns me, cause she plays video games and beat me down in soul calibur 15-2... (omg best night of my life)... girls that play video games, and are good, own. THX. <-- final word dodee: that makes tons of sense santOkgI: tragic . . . ? tragic: hi dodee: dans only point is that girls dont like games, but has absolutely no logic to back it up SpiderDan: was my point so crystal clear that it destroyed your ability to create a coherent sentence? dodee: how the hell can you argue for 45 minutes without any logic? santOkgI: but we've all been blessed with having the chance to be exposed to good positive fun video game experiences and hence to pursue and develop that interest with help from kewl buds like tragic =) CrewNYC: I CAN ANSWER THAT ONE CrewNYC: ! CrewNYC: its a rich kinda answer for me santOkgI: a lot of gurls don't grow up with NES tragic: eyam a kewl bud dodee: I bet you can, andy CrewNYC: its dans opinion! santOkgI: most ppl buy barbie dolls for them CrewNYC: NO LOGIC INVOLVED! CrewNYC: :) dodee: if I want his opinion, i'll give it to him santOkgI: so they have tea parties, and bake, and shop and dance tragic: if i have a daughter, ill make sure she can play video games if she wants. i see a LOT of girls with gameboys now (due to pokemon) SpiderDan: any argument you can make about girls and games I can make about asians and football or blacks and hockey. yet two of these three apparently have no complaint about societal restrictions. good enough for me rsw: opinions that are baseless are worthless santOkgI: most guys get NES, transformers, and computers for their presents and they grow up aplying video games, watching anime, and playing SC/WC . . . dodee: to completely removie societal expectations and replace it with 'fuck the world' autonomy may work for a future hermit, but not for a productive member of society CrewNYC: an opion doesnt need a basis or explanation to be accepted santOkgI: haha! tragic: every girl ive met in the last couple years watches anime.. ok, not every one. but the majority of girls that are around my age santOkgI gives Crew a hi-bap! SpiderDan: dodee: can you dispute my point about asians/football and blacks/hockey? rsw: crew: doesn't need to be, but it's still worthless crap dodee: dan, why would I DISPUTE THAT? it supports my argument santOkgI: tragic, yah i used to miss my workstop on the tgrain b/c I was too caught up playing beatmania on chaj's gameboy CrewNYC: its just a thought tragic: hehe santOkgI: tragic, man . . . ur daughter is gonna be hella lucky =) SpiderDan: so you agree that it is accurate and true? dodee: asians dont play football because they hate it? uh, no CrewNYC: I would rather have a shopping daughter than a gamer though SpiderDan: do you agree that it is accurate and true? Gelly27: you know there was an interesting article about black in hockey in ESPN magazine a few weeks back santOkgI: dodee, well put =) tragic: sant if i have one hehe. SpiderDan: no more backpedaling dodee: that's so blanket and inaccurate, it's "a laughable joke" CreeD: like the one about the nun CrewNYC: a fighting game girl is almost like seeing a girl on the wrestling team for some guys dodee: asians hate football, coloreds hate hockey, white people hate asians and coloreds, and girls hate video games. welcome to danville santOkgI: crew, i'd rather have a balanced daughter who did some shopping and played some video games =) SpiderDan: [22:38] dan, why would I DISPUTE THAT? it supports my argument <- so you agree with the statement? dodee: and yes "coloreds" was used for argument's sake there CreeD: coloredss, can you tell he was raised in maine? CreeD: oh ok CrewNYC: dodee: YOU LIKE ASIANS santOkgI: tragic, dude if I have a son I'll hook mine up with ur daughter =) CrewNYC: that wasn't nice CrewNYC: :( dodee: andy: I LOVE ASIANS CrewNYC: hehee CrewNYC: thats better SpiderDan: still waiting. if you don't dispute it it destroys your position dodee: why would I dispute it? dodee: it goes directly with my logic SpiderDan: so then you don't? SpiderDan: yes or no CrewNYC: this is one of those endless someones opinion vs someone elses opinion thing CrewNYC: no one can ever be right dodee: I do not dispute that CrewNYC: Lets all goto Mall of America and go shopping dodee: the THAT isn't important, the WHY is SpiderDan: OK. resolved: girls do not play video games, asians do not play football, blacks do not play hockey. santOkgI is waiting for clo to play inklink SpiderDan: ( for the most part) dodee: no no no dodee: stereotypically SpiderDan: in practice santOkgI: crew, move to cali yo! dodee: the adjective is the crux of my argument santOkgI: bring adam 'n elise with u =) CrewNYC: I dislike california so much CrewNYC: I mean reaaaaaaaaallllllllllyyyy much santOkgI: spider, what is ur major out of curiosity? SpiderDan: resolved: the majority girls do not play video games, asians do not play football, blacks do not play hockey santOkgI: crew, Y? SpiderDan: majority of dodee: business, and he's a card carrying democrat. SpiderDan: sant: it was CIS dodee: cis, close enough *** Reno- (alfonso@24.141.186.32) has joined channel #vfhome CrewNYC: california is too spread out, I dont like the weather (since I like changing seasons), and on top of it the fashion always stays the same santOkgI: spider, how many gurls majoried in that? santOkgI: hey reno *** Mode change "+o Reno-" on #vfhome by santOkgI dodee: ah, good point, jenny SpiderDan: and I am a registered non-partisan but I guess that's also "close enough" dodee: there was *1* girl in my major at RIT CrewNYC: plus driving to go everywhere is not good SpiderDan: sant: very few dodee: all girls must hate IT, I guess santOkgI: crew, hehe i forget the LI boyz love shopping =) Reno-: hi dodee: driving for any other purpose than enjoyment is stupid. CrewNYC: in cali it seems like everyone is wearing beach gear SpiderDan: dodee: so if most blacks don't play hockey, what should we do to fix that? santOkgI: spider, why were there so few gurls majoring in CIS? dodee: reno, hello. dodee: why fix it? CrewNYC: you see a guy in a suit like 1 outta 1000 SpiderDan: sant: ask a girl =P dodee: if people are happy, leave em be santOkgI: dodee, lots of gurls CIS/IT here in bay area =) *** Signoff: jidan () dodee: everything doesn't have to be FIXED SpiderDan: LOL SpiderDan: if people are happy, leave em be <- so why should more girls be playing video games? dodee: you cant force games down girls throats dodee: you can expose them to it dodee: and let the ones that want ot play play CrewNYC: hmm this one has to goto dodee, Girls and IT stuff is a bit wierd to see dodee: that decision is up to them santOkgI: spider, there's a ton of CIS/IT majors here in the bay area who are chickies . . . b/c I am assuming for al lthe job opportunities here locally SpiderDan: if people are happy, leave em be <- so why should girls ask out guys? dodee: because both guys and girls would rather it be closer to 50 50 SpiderDan: thank you very much sir dodee: ask 100 guys santOkgI: spider, the local job market influenced their decision in conjunction with some interest in in CS/IT to pursue and to develop that interest . . . dodee: and ask 100 girls dodee: BOTH will tell you they'd rather it be equal SpiderDan: no they would not SpiderDan: that's a loaded question santOkgI: dodee exactly dodee: sure they wouldnt SpiderDan: what would you ask them Gelly27: wow, i can't believe this discussion is still going on SpiderDan: what is the exact question CreeD: we asked 100 guys which brand of suppository they preferred. SpiderDan: you would ask in the survey dodee: the exact question doesn't matter dodee: the spirit does santOkgI: i'd love to be able to ask a guy and not be perceived as desperate dodee: thank you jenny. santOkgI: but society hasn't accepted it as the norma CreeD: every time, it was "EZ pass cornholer!" from general sodomics. SpiderDan: sant: you don't know how they would perceive you dodee: it doesn't matter whan an individual would think. dodee: the reality doesn't matter UnCauzi: holy shit dodee: the perception of it does SpiderDan: I'd love to ask out a girl and not be perceived as a skirt chaser UnCauzi: and it's still going SpiderDan: that has nothing to do with ratio of asking santOkgI: spider, um from my experience I've been denied and perceived as desperate . . . dodee: its been over for 10 minutes, unc santOkgI: and that's discouraged me . . .to ask again . . dodee: this is the death throwes UnCauzi: ahhhh santOkgI: i'd love the 50/50 UnCauzi: gotcha SpiderDan: unc: dodee concede santOkgI: i hate it when guys pay for me though santOkgI: why do guys have to feel the need to pay for a gurls meal? dodee: dodee conceded jack UnCauzi: shit UnCauzi: i let girls pay for me santOkgI: i'm a self-sufficient gurl in the 00s who has a career and I can pay for my own wants UnCauzi: i feel fine doing it to dodee: unc: word santOkgI: i used to always insist on paying my share and going dutch SpiderDan: sant: if you wanted to pay why not pay? what is the perception there? santOkgI: but i've also learned the joys of letting fwiends treat u so that u can return the favor INH-: oh you know what made my day? santOkgI: and share that joy each time . . . SpiderDan: because I have heard girls complain that "you asked me out, why shoudl I pay" INH-: who wants to know what made my day? SpiderDan: so I seriously doubt that would be 50/50 on the survey dodee: I'd love to see dan's version of reality, where there's absolutely no influence from society and tradition on any individual's actions santOkgI: spider, I normally would always pay but then I found out it would hurt my fwiends' feelings that they couldn't treat me =| santOkgI: so I decided to let them pay only if they let me return the favor as well =) SpiderDan: I'd love to see dodee's, where everything you (don't) do is someone else's fault santOkgI: then we all are happy and share yummy fudd INH-: someone wants to know dodee: dan: I already said I disagree with that clo: you guys going to jabber all day or play inklink? dodee: "product of my society" is total billshit dodee: bullshit, too dodee: but you SO can't deny that it's an influencing factor santOkgI: dodee, that's hell . . . no human interaction . . hermitville SpiderDan: no more than I admit it's an influencing factor in blacks not playing hockey santOkgI: dodee, that only exists if he was the only person on earth . . . santOkgI: or a hermit INH-: i think dodee would like to know... dodee: dan, you dont have to admit more than that INH-: or ANYBODY for that matter dodee: that's the only point I've been making CreeD: the only one? SpiderDan: in other words. if girls are as oppressed from playing games as I was from playing hockey then it's a non-issue dodee: how did you get confused on that? santOkgI: in that case what point would there be to play/learn fighting game against a computer with nobody to challenge or to teach or to share teh joys of the game? dodee: matt: yes, the only one SpiderDan: because I could have played if I had ANY desire to santOkgI: inklink! CreeD: not even one other point? dodee: creed: not that I can recall INH-: CreeD! SpiderDan: my best friend played hockey for years CreeD: what about your earlier point yesterday? CreeD: inh!@ INH-: nm dodee: oppression is an ACTIVE term dodee: not passive CreeD: anecdotal argument time! dodee: I'm suggesting it's a passive thing INH-: i was gonna say quake but gotta go in a while SpiderDan: creed: it's my favorite! santOkgI: inklink time santOkgI: let's round of the inklink crew dodee: matty: I didn't know I had a point last night santOkgI rounds up the inklink crew with some bap bap bap dodee: in fact, I dont recall talking hardly at all last night CreeD: are you forgetting the one on your head! AR AR ARRR! SpiderDan: dodee: so girls are as passive obstructed from playing games as you are from playing soccer or something, right? dodee: yes SpiderDan: *passively dodee: soccer isn't a big deal in the states SpiderDan: have you ever wanted to play soccer? rsw: don't make me spam this place with ascii art SpiderDan: did you ever feel embarrassed because you really wanted to play, but you felt society would laught at you? dodee: I used to play soccer dodee: what's you're point? dodee: your, even CreeD: hello kitty! clo: creed: what FTP daemon do you use? SpiderDan: did you stop playing soccer because of allt he societal pressure? dodee: I played soccer, jenny plays video games, where are you going with this? SpiderDan: because that is jenny's point dodee: soccer wasn't encouraged SpiderDan: I will quote it if you want Myke`: my bro scored yesterday off a free kick! santOkgI: inklink dodee: football and baseball were encouraged Myke`: i was so proud :D dodee: so there wasn' incentive to play it like there was baseball and football rsw: mike: he's young to be sexually active, isn't he? savage. SpiderDan: jenny's point is that girls have all these negative connotations if they play games, and that they have to try a lot harder, which prevents playing santOkgI: spider, if u were itnerested in ballet for a career or leisure, would u learn ballet and tell all ur guy fwiends that's what u did for fun? clo: inklink: #vfhome in expert santOkgI: myke, whoo-hoo! dodee: I played it solely beacuse I wanted to santOkgI: myke, man pix? Myke`: we're playing inklink now dodee: everyone isn't fortunate/smart enough to have a positive, supportive, forward thinking environment SpiderDan: sant: likely, my friends would be ones with similar interests. so yes dodee: the vast masses of the population are stupid Myke`: sant, wait up Myke`: after this game dodee: and societal puppets dodee: that's how stereotypes are stereotpyes santOkgI: spider, er i love video games but I'm not saying I'm good at it . . . but I've been blessed with fwiends who take the time to help me . . . catch up to the learning curve . . . SpiderDan: dodee: did you feel a lot of societal pressure to stop playing soccer? or did you just stop because you didn't like it? dodee: you cant use outliers as proof of vast concepts, it doesn't work like that rsw: have i mentioned how much i hate ladybugs? santOkgI: spider, for me I find it harder because I haven't been playing these games with these strategy analysis all these years . . . rsw: they're hard to kill, too dodee: you're makig it an ACTIVE thing dan santOkgI: lemme get my mouse dodee: and neither of us are suggesting that *** Brisal73 (vsmak@pool0746.cvx14-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net) has joined channel #vfhome rsw: and when you crush them leave this horrid smell dodee: it isn't encouraged, that's all that needs to happen to make fewer people do it SpiderDan: fine. did you quit soccer because of the lack of encouragement or because you liked other things more? santOkgI: spider, so would U tell ur guy fwiends u practiced ballet for fun if u really liked ballet? UnCauzi: hmm dodee: I quit soccer because of demands on my time, not from choice santOkgI: u wouldn't feel the slightest hesitance of being made fun of? UnCauzi: i didn't do soccer because i was encouraged to play football santOkgI goes unpack her mouse dodee: jenny: he's above that. SpiderDan: dodee: why did you prioritize your time away from football dodee: he does stuff cause HE wants to, and that's it SpiderDan: sant: no more than I do now with videogames. clo: en clo: jen dodee: uhm, cause I *had* to excell in studies to get into the school I wanted (college being an expectation) SpiderDan: do I go around telling everyone at work that I play arcade games every day? no clo: jenjen *** santOkgI is now known as Ink-Pai SpiderDan: dodee: student athletes? dodee: to make good money (expectation) clo: come to inklink dodee: some people are excellent at balancing that dodee: and even excell at it Ink-Pai: clo coming Ink-Pai: found my mouse Ink-Pai: where are u guys? SpiderDan: so you prioritized your time for more important things. do you play soccer now? dodee: between classwork and other priorities, soccer fell off the list dodee: you writing a book, or making a point? dodee: if it's the 2nd one, make it dodee: I'm bored *** Signoff: Brisal73 (Leaving) dodee: and perl is a higher priority than listening to illogical pathless babble clo: mixed bag jen Ink-Pai: okie Ink-Pai: ack roome? Ink-Pai: gimme a nick to locate player clo: vfhome CreeD: cweed Myke`: mixed bag dodee: aw holy shit, it's 2am. SpiderDan: my point is, again, society as a factor is so small as to be irrelevant. if you wanted to do it you would do it. black people that want to play hockey play it. girls that want to play games play them. no "evil society" invocation necessary Ink-Pai: not found =( clo: `clo` dodee: dan: why do you think certain sports, movies, etc are more popular? clo: myke_ clo: search for those clo: cweed dodee: and quit bringing up the active oppression theory dodee: I've told you 3 times that isn't what I think dodee: stop putting ill-fitting words in my mouth, it makes you look alzheimers SpiderDan: dodee: then clarify your point. because either I've refuted it, I agree with it, or it's not relevant Ink-Pai: dodee play inklinke Ink-Pai: it's more fun than vfhome chat dodee: jenny: it's starting to look that way dodee: I'll join in a few SummAh: definitely *** Mode change "+o ghostdog" on #vfhome by SummAh ghostdog: thx,summaaaahh... SpiderDan: I would also like to get back to diablo. so let us conclude this dodee: my point is that certain behaviours/interests are not encouraged by society actively Ink-Pai: spider, thanks for sharing ur opinion . . . but i think we'll be playing inklink =) dodee: and which is gonna be more likely, people doing the ENCOURAGED thing, or the thing that either no one cares about or disapproves of dodee: ? SpiderDan: sant: what is that game with the anagrams? dodee: acro SpiderDan: dodee: OK I think I understand your point. which is not the same as sant's, and makes it kind of arguing on two fronts. SpiderDan: acrophobia. that's right dodee: and it was concluded when you made the race/sport argument for me. SpiderDan: hopefully inklink is nothing like that SpiderDan: dodee: actually. your point is really not relevant SpiderDan: so I guess we are done dodee: actually, it's dead on dodee: you can choose to not see it as such, but everyone else involved seems to have, so... SpiderDan: from the standpoint of "people don't do [x] because of [x] bad factors," which you explictly disagree with, it's not SpiderDan: ok. good night. dodee: girls dont play games because there are other things they're encouraged do do dodee: to do SpiderDan: you can have last word. happy? *dodee* BOOOOOOOOOOM SpiderDan: go play inklink. hopefully it's not as bad as acrophobia dodee: dont attempt to discredit with that gimmick, son *dodee* winnah and still champeen! SpiderDan: do you want me to have last word? dodee: there doesn't have to be a last word SpiderDan: heh SpiderDan: ok. dodee: and that terminology comes off as placating. SpiderDan: rather than saying your point is irrelevant dodee: "sure, you're right dodee *pat pat*" SpiderDan: I will say that it is not central to the argument I am discrediting *** Signoff: Goom|Zzzz (Ping timeout: 160 seconds) dodee: no point in thinly veiling stuff dodee: I made points that jenny agreed with, that seems pretty central. Ink-Pai: acrophobia was fun though SpiderDan: acrophobia was blatant popularity contest Ink-Pai: but u can be inventive/creative SpiderDan: I played two games and got cheated out of both Ink-Pai: and it's fun with fwiends Ink-Pai: u don't have to win to have fun =) SpiderDan: I think it was only good when NOT playing with people you know Myke`: jen draw! Ink-Pai: i suck at vf but I still like playing it clo: bad jenjen Spid