Log file opened at: 3/30/02 10:06:30 PM *** Topic for #vfhome: Virtua Fighter Action/Adventure game to GameCube | Bill Gates weeps | siLE-Pai eats apple *** Topic for #vfhome set by Reno- on Saturday, March 30, 2002 1:47:51 AM #vfhome: rsw ETP Catlord silentwar HotSauce prizim @CreeD UnCMovie vf4guy baobab @tellure kil20 alThrGone _BMW_ FatCat- @Reno- UrO_KiDD @SummAh @dodee OjPimPsOn jidanafk number_6 @Yasakani @ChoiBoy *** End of /NAMES list. *** Mode is +stn *** Channel created at Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:30:16 PM *** Mode change "+o rsw" on #vfhome by CreeD dodee: gimms CreeD: ok baobab: hiya rich kil20: lol hes happy rsw: lo CreeD: hi there. dodee: I dont like butchdural CreeD: yeah, man with jigglysacks. rsw: --- rsw: From "Smash the Controls" - a virtuafighter documentary. rsw: (silence) hey let's go to the arcade. I think that pai masher will be there. (more silence) rsw: (wide angle lens) Let's go, I guess. (tumbleweed drifts by) rsw: laaffffff CreeD: :D CreeD: it was time to switch up. kil20: hehe CreeD: you're on dialup hell rico? cuz there's a nice daioh clip with kage madness. rsw: yes CreeD: bummzor it's a 20 megger as usual. Guy has some nerve-grinding sequences with kage that tend to end in the stance K crumpling the oppt CreeD: ok, gay goth/leet/industrial nickname of the year goes to our newest member: CreeD: "FaydetoBlacke" CreeD: BAN ETP: lol dodee: hrm. I still have a decent spod for some reason SummAh: hey..did u know qwerty is back! dodee: and still cant do DLC to save my life CreeD: never knew querty was there CreeD: dodee: is that a mod stick you said? SummAh: qwerty was the first nick LA used after he got banned! CreeD: I'll teach you DLC if you'll give me the stick. I can't pad spod. CreeD: summah: doh *** Signoff: vf4guy () CreeD: dodee: hey, your employment, is it regular fixed hours? dodee: I'll mod your stick if you want dodee: matty: hah, no ETP: what is the best stick to buy btw? dodee: its whenever I work, I work CreeD: dodee: why don't you come with on friday, see the boston gang? mason will be there. dodee: hrm, you driving? CreeD: ETP: a lot of people are recommending the hori/tekken stick CreeD: dodee: yeah dodee: ask me later in the week ETP: ill take a look for it CreeD: ofay. baobab: dodee: you gat a job? CreeD: brb dodee: bao: "steady" freelance dodee: not a full time job SummAh: that's better than no job dodee: yep baobab: steady freelance is better than nothing baobab: hell any freelance is better than a job dodee: BC on the bounce is absurd. baobab: 'cause you don't have to work at the same place for very long dodee: they're paying me really well too dodee: basically the only reason i could get the ps2 today baobab: damn...now i think i'm the only person in the world without a PS2 ETP: baobab: i think os ETP: so ETP: your certainly the only person i know without one SummAh: dodee: that's why I thought to myself 'hmm thought he was still saving for ps2?' dodee: hahha dodee: well, I told best buy, "I'll gladly pay you in a month for a ps2 today" dodee: and they bought it. hah! baobab: dodee: did you get vf4 and all the goodies too? dodee: i got a ps2 and vf4 dodee: no memory cards in southern maine *** mikeohara (Orion@AC82AF4A.ipt.aol.com) has joined channel #vfhome CreeD: lots in nme CreeD: go to sears for that obscure gaming accessory that Eb is always sold out of. *** ghostdog (rj6971@host-209-214-129-116.jax.bellsouth.net) has joined channel #vfhome baobab: jeez, vfdc is almost up to 1900 registered...i remember when it was like 300 dodee: sears down here doens't have a video game secion anymore mikeohara: evening ghostdog: hello.. baobab: hello ghost ghostdog: bay-ohh... ghostdog: =) ETP: so the hori tekken stick is considered better than the hori VF stick? SummAh: bao: i miss those VFDC underground days SummAh: ETP: haven't read any comparisons yet SummAh: but so far..only 2 players have complained abt the VF stick baobab: the only reason i ever found out about VFDC was through blast city SummAh: oh SummAh: u used to post at blast city? baobab: about as much as i post in vfdc SummAh: man SummAh: it was funny when blast city shut down SummAh: those blaster coming over to vfdc to flame jeff baobab: yeah, lotsa people seemed to get overly worked up about it SummAh: one guy came n told us he is kung fu master in real life n stuff SummAh: funny~ ETP: hehe *** GodEater (GodEater_@d141-101-49.home.cgocable.net) has joined channel #vfhome rsw: they had good reason to if they read jeff's asinine excuse GodEater: yo ghostdog: G...E... GodEater: creed GodEater: "asinine"? mikeohara: I wonder why sometimes I'm the only one who plays VF religliously in this town rsw: "because i felt like it. and i won't offer it to anyone else, because i feel like it." ghostdog: mike:urs is not a unique situation... *** Mode change "+o GodEater" on #vfhome by SummAh GodEater: what has been going on? dodee: consecutive knees make akira look like a silly BUNNY baobab: GE: talking about blast city dodee: tra-la-la a-skipping through the fo-rest SummAh: hi god~ ghostdog: dodee:i'd like to b able to make him hop like a bunny...;) rsw: ge: that's the correct spelling mikeohara: hmm dodee: the trick with akira's knee is doing it slower than you think you should really need to mikeohara: I live in a town of about 80 ETP: yeah, i can get him to hop onces in about 20 times.. so hes a really really lazy bunny mikeohara: I live in a town of about 80,000 GodEater: rsw: oh I know, I just was wondering what it refered to GodEater: hey summ GodEater: creed in? GodEater: !creed SummAh: creed=break SummAh: prolly off to unpiss GF SummAh: kekekeke SummAh hides from creed.. dodee: oooohhhh my right hand hurts. dodee: afk. GodEater: ? GodEater: dodee been porn surfing again? ETP: lol SummAh: lol *** AwayEug (emoon01@12-250-150-34.client.attbi.com) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o AwayEug" on #vfhome by GodEater GodEater: aight GodEater: short visit. off to bed. rsw: on saturday? GodEater: heh, yah. got to bed late last night and then had to get up early today. have to get up early tomorrow too GodEater: work work work dodee: wow, once that pai got warmed up, she did well dodee: and no, not porn THIS early. baobab: i'm beginning to thing GE is a farmer... dodee: short visit. off to bed. work work work dodee: haahah GodEater: you find my tiredness amusing? baobab: errr think GodEater: well, I did live on a farm SummAh: i just get the impression god is a very busy entity GodEater: at any rate. GodEater: good night *** Signoff: GodEater (be your own lamp) Reno-: short visit. off to bed. work work work <-- "I'm getting some tonight." Reno-: doh Reno-: he left before i could paste it Reno-: =\ SummAh: lol FatCat-: getting some pie? FatCat-: I'm getting some pie also FatCat-: brb dodee: I officially approve of vf4. rsw: you suck. dodee: sorry. it's keen rsw: it's crap. play it against a human baobab: see rich, it'll grow on you....like a fungus :) dodee: granted I haven't played it against people dodee: but still dodee: I didn't like solo vf3 rsw: fortunately i have a bottle of lamisil dodee: there's some stuff I dont like *** ludakris (something@host-209-214-61-55.aby.bellsouth.net) has joined channel #vfhome Reno-: http://linepro.tv/report/hizou/szou6.jpg <-- .... okay..... this is a true bunnygirl baobab: i still don't understand why you hate it so much *** Signoff: ludakris () dodee: THAT bunny girl is hot *** ironpalm (rudeboy@pc-62-31-49-98-nm.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined channel #vfhome Reno-: that's miwa oshiro :D~ Reno-: she's my future wife Reno-: she just doesn't know it yet baobab: wow, she is cute dodee: kidnapping doesn't make her your wife, reno Reno-: YES IT DOES ETP: lol dodee: the voices are god-awful. ETP: please, dont ruin renos dreams dodee: "soooo WHAT?" *** Signoff: prizim (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) *** Signoff: HotSauce (Idle time limit exceeded) rsw: bao: fucked up risk vs reward ratios. neutered throws. bullshit option select. less strategy; spazzing and randomness is more rewarding that thought out tactics dodee: whoaaaaaaa dodee: I have attract mode on. and kage just did a TFT near a wall dodee: and akira was about to go out, and they both teleported to the center of the ring *** matricks8 (cisco@CPE0050baaae465.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #vfhome Reno-: haha dodee: there isn't as much OS as vf2, is there? matricks8: hello.. i have a question... anyone know if virtua fighter 4 will be out for PC soon? Reno-: uh...... dodee: it will never be out on pc SummAh: it'll never be out on the pc SummAh: good bye~ rsw: dodee: much more, and it's all defensive, which makes people get away with murder dodee: it'll be out for PC as soon as there's a PS2 emulator dodee: some specific examples? dodee: I'll straight up say I'm ignorant of a lot of vf4 stuff matricks8: oh i see... ok.. just thought they might put it out.. since they already have virtual fighter 1 and 2 on PC now.. rsw: vf2 os was fine (save for the reversals) because it was offensive, which means you still had to take a gamble *** GaijinX (shyguy@pm3-1-s5.pchelp.net) has joined channel #vfhome GaijinX: Whats Up rsw: dodee: just do training mode. they fucking teach everyone all the bullshit GaijinX: Bill Gate$ isnt gettin' a VF ? HAHAHAHAHA.........G00D! dodee: i cant do trial training mode dodee: no memory card GaijinX: o_O GaijinX: dude GaijinX: wy not / GaijinX: ? dodee: I dodee: just said dodee: why GaijinX: o GaijinX: wait GaijinX: lol GaijinX: yea GaijinX: =P dodee: type in sentences. Reno-: no kidding. GaijinX: ugh, no need to attack me SummAh: are u gaijin punch on the board? dodee: that wasn't an attack dodee: you'll know when it's an attack ETP: lol, yes you certainly will SummAh: ETP: u tell him ~ dodee: rich! examples! baobab: yeag gaijin, you wouldn't still be here if it was an attack dodee: no training mode for dodee. *** matricks8 has left channel #vfhome ETP: i still havent tried altering the speed in training mode, gotta get to that dodee: I agree there's some messed up risk/reward rsw: get a memory card, i'm not up for explaining it dodee: bah! SummAh: I'm with rich..I cannot exactly explain what is so messed up with some of the balancing issues in the game baobab: rich: have you gone through the training? rsw: suffice it to say it makes the risk/reward even further, to the point where you might as just be scrubs doing moves completely at random and just hoping they'll hit SummAh: but it's just..u gotta play it heaps n challenge heaps like i have..then u start to see the real 'shit' rsw: bao: no, but i know the option select in vf4 dodee: I just like the feel of it infinitely more than VF3 rsw: i fucking hate it. you can cancel the input buffer, which totally fucked me over baobab: i guess i'm just not exactly clear on what option select actually is rsw: when i want a move i just stand there and twitch rsw: moves practically have NO recovery time. dodge a knee or akira's sde? well too fucking bad, you can't do anything to either. *** Signoff: GaijinX (Ping timeout: 300 seconds) dodee: yeah, I was about to bitch about akira move priority/recovery time CreeD: aieierse dodee: matty ghostdog: creed.... dodee: you want me to rig a psx pad to install in your agetech? CreeD: dodee: that's not a bad idea. Can you get select working? ETP: CreeD: thanks again for pointing me at the amact vids, those had some really nice van stuff dodee: yeah, I'll get select to work CreeD: etp: sure CreeD: bao: to answer your other thing on option select... rsw: isn't ept some pregnancy test? dodee: you want select on X, Y, or Z? rsw: err, etp ETP: rsw: ept is ETP: much to my dismay CreeD: bao: it's like doing reversal or dodge then immediately entering throw escapes in case the opponent didn't do the attack you were expecting rsw: heh CreeD: and if you're fast you can even do reversal/dodge, escapes, then guard. baobab: how is that different from vf2? CreeD: junky's jungle!@ rsw: bao: it was all offensive CreeD: bao: well VF2 didn't have many throw escapes, except for the crappy P+G throws rsw: not defensive CreeD: and also in vF2 missed throws and reversals turned into punches CreeD: which helped you CreeD: for example kage dashes up and does d+P. normally he low punches if you try a slow move. If you try a fast punch, he reverses it for a decent chunk. CreeD: or sarah does f,f+P. If you're standing, you get thrown. If you duck, you're fucked and get elbowed. rsw: but it's not as bad as it sounds, far from rsw: i'd rather have that than vf4's bullshit CreeD: yeah it encourages nonstop attacking in the form of reversal motions baobab: were there throw whiffs in vf2 then? rsw: no CreeD: bao: not a one, doh. SummAh: whiff throw=punch CreeD: or elbow SummAh: n we can spot if u whiff a throw! CreeD: or low punch rsw: or some moves you reaalllly didn't want SummAh: cause ur punch comes out at stupid timings! CreeD: yeah like beat knuckle CreeD: OOPS CreeD: although being in open stance with jacky, missing the throw as a result, but nailing the open stance beat knuckle --> kickflip... that's funny. *** Signoff: Catlord (Idle time limit exceeded) rsw: that's also supremely rare *** Catlord ([p5LlyTK1C@ryoko.catlord.com) has joined channel #vfhome SummAh: i guess SummAh: one of the main reasons why i really am pissed off with VF4 is this SummAh: back in VF2..or even VF3...at least ..u're ensure of a fair fight SummAh: but with VF4...for some fucked reasons..Lei does move damage because he's lei SummAh: if u're pai...u're already disadvantaged from the start CreeD: well it's mostly not that lei does too much, but others do too little CreeD: in VF2, everyone can knock off 40-50% easy Reno-: lei is such a fucker >:| CreeD: so two or three good guesses wins CreeD: but pai needs to think hard, while lau.. just doesn't. CreeD: in Vf4 that is SummAh: Vanessa has all these super options select because...well she's new n super good for whatever reasons sega made their decision on dodee: yeah dodee: pai's listed as beginner...wtf CreeD: well sega didn't want it to be like aoi/taka ETP: sounds like i picked the right character then, go van! rsw: you needed to think with all the characters in vf2 (save maybe kage) if you wanted to win SummAh: i mean CreeD: who were sorta unpopular where I played. rsw: in vf4 button mashing fools have a really decent chance SummAh: come on...Akira's reversals are generally...quite fair..n take off pissy damage SummAh: but vanessa's...BS damage rsw: much more than they ever did in vf3, which is something people complained about CreeD: rsw: yeah. You needed to think REALLY hard to focus on not losing 40% too, it required a lot of focus. baobab: hehe rich...i pretty much always lose, so i'm not sure that is true Reno- always lost in vf2 too ^^ mikeohara: Reno CreeD: I dunno that VF4 button mashing always works.. there's still initiative, you still can block a big move and then do a knee... the knee isn't free but it often mc's their next attack. mikeohara: is fighters.net down? Reno-: yes rsw: bao: beginners who are actively trying to play the game at a high level are the easiest opponents Reno-: the main page is Reno-: not the forums CreeD: I remember when VF3 was new everyone cried "SCRUB FRIENDLY! BLAH! LOW KICK THROW!" rsw: always have been rsw: creed: come to boston and play this pai player CreeD: rsw: I lost to him once, if we're talking about the black dude? rsw: he goes 50/50 with the best of us CreeD: he outsmarts you with PPPsweep or PPPb+K eh :p rsw: and all he is capable of is uf+K,K; PPPK; sidekicks and P; d+P rsw: creed you need to experience it SummAh: actually rich rsw: it's fucking absurd CreeD: when I was scrubby with pai, I still got wins in VF2 using nothing but sidekick stagger --> PPP or sweep SummAh: I experienced someone like this here CreeD: and just correctly guessing a lot. SummAh: using pai too SummAh: doing the same stuff u mentioned! rsw: oh, and K,K rsw: how could i forget Reno-: haha Reno-: KK is nuts Reno-: KK free pounce Reno-: woo CreeD: rsw: I guess I do. Pai' CreeD: s still the weakest, I don't see a scrub going 50/50 CreeD: he's either underestimated, or brighter than he looks. rsw: well we have, ask any in boston rsw: no dude CreeD: I'll ask shang, he's pretty blunt about it. jidanafk: its all about lei fei! SummAh: no pai is not the weakest! SummAh: I refuse to believe pai is the weakest! rsw: he mixes in total spazzing with machi back off techniques SummAh: maybe one of the hardest! CreeD: summah: who would be weakest then? rsw: or you could just take my word for it CreeD: rsw: there ya go, he knows at LEAST machi rsw: creed: it's not intelligent machi Reno-: creed: weakest is akira Reno-: ................................ SummAh: Rich..that's what the pai player did to me..Machi with those few moves he mentioned rsw: he'll spazz, then back wayyyyy off SummAh: ah..japanese pai players! rsw: spazz again Reno-: that akumapai player is nuts with pai though rsw: summer: did your blood boil and make you hate vf4? CreeD: rsw: it's not a broken game system if he's throwing out PPPK or PPPsweep or DSK and percentage wise hurts you more than gets hurt. CreeD: because those things aren't particularly special in 4 CreeD: all punishable as usual CreeD: knee, etc. CreeD: reno: and smart. rsw: yeah creed, i'm a fucking scrub and just eating the PPPsweep after PPPsweep SummAh: rich: I'll be honest..I never ever sat down n go ' fuck..this is BS' back then (prolly) becos of tb....but in VF4...every few days or so..I scream murder ETP: lol CreeD: rsw: wtf, don't be so fucking touchy, who called you a scrub? jesus christ. You said yourself he's throwing out the big moves listed above CreeD: all of which are knee/beatknuckle/SDE counterable SummAh: the best way to judge is when my friends tell me ' man it;s BS what u can pull off with Lei...feel disgusted using him' SummAh: I can beat their Lei all the time..I still fucking hate his BSness though CreeD: lei is very clearly a 'sega's choice' type of character, the way they give him not-subtle advantages with moves that always stagger or KD or stun for lengthy combos. CreeD: rich is either writing a book or silently seething. Reno-: lol CreeD: I guess I'll maybe see friday. ETP: lol rsw: we're countering them (barely), but then we get spazzed at with some uf+K and then d+Px5 then PPP then K,K or so, all mixed and matched. no one knows what the fuck he's gonna do, we eat one and then he back off and plays it safe rsw: it works amazingly, disgustingly, infuriatingly well ETP: /me takes a note to try that strategy on people rsw: he mixes throws in there pretty often, too SummAh: i just think VF3 rewards intelligent play..while in 4..depending on who u're up against..u must as well forget abt trying to win the tactics..n just abuse the moves..kill the guy..on with the next game baobab: hrmm, i still don't understand how it's better when you fucked up and guessed wrong in vf2, you still got a handy offensive move rather than in 4 where you just kinda stand there...it seems like it'd be harder in 4 to win rsw: which might as well be considered attacks in vf4 Reno-: summah: well, that exists in just about every fighting game except VF =b rsw: which always seem to nail us specifically when we're waiting for him to do a counterable move CreeD: rsw: shit though you can do that in VF2/3 as well. I know I irritated the shit out of people with PP d/f+P d+P PP u/f+P f+P d+P f+P randomness before. It did more harm in VF2 and option selected as well. I don't see how this is a problem unique to VF4. SummAh: oh...I hate what they did to kickflips in VF4 rsw: creed: bah, you can duck and throw or get elbowed or back off the slightest bit and throw that in vf2. it's easy to adapt SummAh: esp now they changed the reversal levels for kicflips SummAh: it's not even rewarding to reverse a kickflip anymore rsw: in vf4, throws suck, and nothing is counterable CreeD: bao: the problem is that in VF2, the offensive option select encouraged attacking, but if the attack FAILED, there were consequences. If someone blocks your knee in VF2, 30% damage is a bare minimum guaranteed mindless counter. CreeD: in VF4 you block a knee, it's 12% or so and you had to think for it and react fast. baobab: ahhh, i see SummAh: bao: vf2 rewards the intelligent..n punish the fools SummAh: so too in vf3 SummAh: but in vf4 " argh..I wanna punish him..but my moves with Pai doesn't allow me that luxury' CreeD: rsw: granted that throws suck more and nothing is counterable, but I'll have to play the guy a few times to be convinced this breaks the game. ghostdog: brb... *** ghostdog is now known as ghostAFK dodee: I wuv f+K. dodee: its so ling. =) CreeD: play with b+K CreeD: smack d+PKG after CreeD: then you'll see some serious ling. CreeD: lots of ling in pai now. Reno-: Glory to Dreamcast special! Reno-: http://asx.pod.tv/sega/free/gamejam2/dreamcast30.asx dodee: ling and pai, together at last dodee: that'll be my ring name. dodee: Ping. CreeD: is it neat enough that I should make it a keeper, reno? ETP: hehe, ping. CreeD: dodee: then anyone who loses to you cna say they got ping whored. _BMW_: bill gates cried or some shit? dodee: I hate akira. _BMW_: akira OWNS dodee: pign could also be a mulan reference CreeD: dodee: secret is block all day until he double palms, then throw... vs. the cpu at least. CreeD: also occasionally try a KK after blocked super dashing elbow. CreeD: reno I'm bored, this clip's intro is too long. dodee: he beats me too much. _BMW_: that first replay match between lau and akira is pretty tite CreeD: yeah most of them are good. _BMW_: some sickass shits SummAh: creed Reno-: creed: it's streaming =b SummAh: url to that amact site plz CreeD: reno: yeah I know rsw: people who put loud, obnoxious wav's or midi's on their web page should be strung up by their balls and whipped CreeD: summah: http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~amact/ CreeD: rsw: see the "fireman comics" link from fark? if so, go back there and check out dude's "most annoying banner ad ever" CreeD: wow reno, that announcer is full-on flaming Reno-: haha yeah CreeD: omfg this is so long CreeD: I don't think I'll keep it Reno-: http://sega.jp/gamejam2/stage.html Reno-: one for each major dev Reno-: get AM2! =b dodee: akira b,f+P+K dizzying is fucking stupid CreeD: laff dodee CreeD: if you get hit by that CreeD: you deserve it CreeD: it's only when you guard it fully charged. dodge to his back. SummAh: creed! CreeD: eventually you can do it on reflex and ream him. SummAh: pvt! CreeD: I see nothing, you hit the wrong creed *** ironpalm is now known as ironbed dodee: dural whoops me CreeD: you're facing her already? CreeD: oh dur arcade mode CreeD: yeah she's a bitch. Dodge and ring her out. dodee: I cant play kumite, yeah CreeD: no kumite, gay. no fun. CreeD: go through trial training, it's fun dodee: I cant CreeD: why? dodee: no memory card = no trial CreeD: I'm pretty positive it needs none CreeD: when it prompts you, choose CD rom ETP: yeah dodee: ...why can jacky auto-inashi stun palm? *** RM-Jin (silentwar@co-colspgs-u2-c6b-252.clspco.adelphia.net) has joined channel #vfhome CreeD: dodee: he has to not guard or do anything, then quickly hit punch after the inashi CreeD: it's a pretty cool reversal actually, in the sense that he has to be begging for reaming to be used correctly. dodee: cpu training jacky told to do nothing *** HotSauce (answerbook@12-234-226-83.client.attbi.com) has joined channel #vfhome CreeD: yee!@ dodee: that's tarded. *** Signoff: silentwar () CreeD: nah dude, it's no different than a regular reversal except that you must do nothing, which makes you vulnerable to anything at all (Except high punches) CreeD: any jacky who lands it had brains CreeD: you can't talk me into not guarding when I stand dodee: haha SummAh: dodee SummAh: stun palm is a mid punch move SummAh: jacky can auto inashi all mid n high punch moves dodee: that's stupid. SummAh: now if u want to practice spod on Jacky..select 'Mc' in options..cpu jacky won't auto inashi the stun palm CreeD: it's stupid that it's really rewarding, but it's not exactly zero risk :) CreeD: it nets jerky a free throw. SummAh: creed SummAh: it's not free SummAh: u can reverse it CreeD: summah: well duh summah, I know there are throw escapes. did I just fall off the mexican laborer truck? SummAh: or if u have hands like shang....do a RTEG... SummAh: gah..I hate ppl with fast hands! CreeD: laff SummAh: no lah..thought u just came back from africa mah! CreeD: yah I come from africa to see ur girlfriend CreeD: gave me the clap lo~ SummAh: alamak~ *** misery011 (misery@172.gct0102.gct.iprimus.net.au) has joined channel #vfhome CreeD: howdy. misery011: hey *** DLR (noneofyour@alb-24-58-136-156.nycap.rr.com) has joined channel #vfhome *** JediK9th (fanboy@200.218.46.136) has joined channel #vfhome CreeD: wow. CreeD: you can't all be former tekken players. misery011: i'm just starting to learn VF4 mikeohara plays SF/Tekken/VF and GGX (when he gets his PS2 back) CreeD: I see. Play any other 3D games before or just SF? misery011: hopefully getting it in about 2 weeks CreeD: excellent. The PS2 version is a good instructor, the trial mode.... CreeD: VF used to be such a bastard to learn CreeD: now they're just giving away all the good stuff :p misery011: didnt really get into the 1st 3 CreeD: yeah, a lot of people didn't :/ ...but anyone with tekken experience can get into VF4 without too much work, I think. SummAh: funny ETP: mikeohara: ggx rules misery011: is the game pace faster than tekken? *** Doomy (alex@EHPP-p-203-54-141-220.prem.tmns.net.au) has joined channel #vfhome misery011: since the block button and all misery011: i mean is it slower mikeohara: I haven't played it yet though ETP: i find it faster that tekken SummAh: block doesn't affect speed at all RM-Jin: VF4 is like m1 compared to T4 *** Doomy is now known as Doomboy ETP: the work on the inside is much faster for sure misery011: m1 ? RM-Jin: mach misery011: ok misery011: is the game centered around somem sort of abusive move like Tekken EWGF ? SummAh: never RM-Jin: no CreeD: laff, no misery011: cuz that really made TTT boring RM-Jin: dear god no SummAh: god misery011: good SummAh: u've been badly affected be tekken misery011: just curious CreeD: they guys at sega care a lot about balance, they rape ANY move that seems too useful or good *** JediK9th has left channel #vfhome CreeD: with maybe one or two exceptions misery011: yeah, been playing it for the last 3 years misery011: i havent really played a balanced game RM-Jin: the thing that really makes me respect vf is that at top level, its all about variety misery011: it's always been tekken and KOF CreeD: I mean look at kage's b,b+K+G... a dinky sweep that combos into another attack for 25% or so. They fixed it so it doesn't combo anymore, even though it wasn't a killer move and kage doesn't have a single other good low attack SummAh: I'm still not used to seeing tekken players saying they come over to VF4 but 'missed the 1st 3' hehehe *** RM-Jin is now known as silentwar *** bonano (fanboy@200.218.46.136) has joined channel #vfhome misery011: played a bit just didnt get into the first 3 bonano: hello SummAh: misery: well..VF series is all abt balance misery011: the characters werent as appealing kil20: same here ETP: i played v3 a little, but i hated it soo much CreeD: yeah, I think in tekken there are some characters you just don't bother picking, it's a waste of time.. but in VF it's worthwhile to pick anyone, it's never hopeless or painful. misery011: yeah really lookign forward to it ETP: just a rental Doomboy: I played TTT for 3 months, but all i saw was EWGF combo then dash around like a spaz until you can land another : P silentwar: top level play in TTT: backdashing/ewgf mishimas ETP: never thought i would ever pick up a vf again Doomboy: so i left misery011: the AI is actually decent right? Doomboy: Creed the VF4 soundtrack on your ftp, does it work properly? wern't there issues with the sound wuality or something? misery011: not much chance of getting challengers from here CreeD: doom: a few tracks have a blip at the start.. just the one blip, no other faults. silentwar: misery: I think the AI is the best to ever grace a fighting game misery011: ok better go eat something, just woke up Doomboy: rad CreeD: two tracks have blips in the middle, noticeable but not horrid misery011: silentwar: ok thanks silentwar: just woke up ????? misery011: slept at 4am last night misery011: was playing dynasty warriors SummAh: creed: wolf track has horrible blips silentwar: 1? 2? 3? misery011: the latest one for PS2 misery011: sangoku musou 2, so i think they call it 3 in US misery011: i got the NTSC J version silentwar: they don't count "1" I guess misery011: ok bbl misery011: because 1 was a 1 on 1 fighting game misery011: and it was sangoku musou misery011: but the PS2 versions are SHIN sangoku musou silentwar: o i c silentwar: go eat! SummAh: man..that's a good game misery011: yeah bbl SummAh: some freaky stuff SummAh: some guy in Japan finished the game in 14 mins! silentwar: I finished in one sitting at E3 SummAh: n I got the dvd footage to prove what he did! silentwar: I thought it was just a preview silentwar: then I buy it and i'm like "yeah this is gay" Doomboy: hey is Durals bgm the one used in the VF4 PS2 tgs trailer? Doomboy: the first ps2 footage that is SummAh: 14 mins..killed only bosses for every stage..not losing a single drop of health point silentwar: SummAh: yeah, ok, that's fine, but he totally missed all the amazing fun of hitting pppp X 1234512345 dodee: why does pai's d/f+K penalize HER? dodee: that's stupid. Doomboy: ? SummAh: dodee: try doing JAcky's b,f+k+g on a Mc SummAh: that's the worst dodee: I dont play jerky. SummAh: bad enuff jacky doesn't get the usual bonus damage for Mc Doomboy: Dodee how so? *** FeixaQ (fx@adsl-63-201-80-141.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome SummAh: there's even a stupid jerky animation after the Mc SummAh: waaaah~~~~~~~ CreeD: Bun Bun Maru likes licking the dairy queen cups. dodee: doomboy: beacuse you cant follow it up with anything *** FeixaQ is now known as siLE-Pai Doomboy: ah ok siLE-Pai: hey summah CreeD: dodee: pai's d/f+K is fine? siLE-Pai: hey creed SummAh: hey pai~~~~ CreeD: hey dere silE *** Mode change "+o siLE-Pai" on #vfhome by SummAh dodee: d/f+K+G, sorry Doomboy: you mean cause you can't float anymore Dod? dodee: the sweep siLE-Pai: man, yusuke got his AI wolf to be emperor *ai ya* Doomboy: oh siLE-Pai: tee hee SummAh: playing VF at chris's place? siLE-Pai: summah, yupadayZ just 5 of us CreeD: dodee: d/b+K+G? The quick sweep that doesn't always knock down? siLE-Pai: just had yummy sushi =) dodee: nono, d/f+K+G dodee: doesn't always knock down CreeD: it's not bad, it's safer than d+K+G. The tradeoff is that d+K+G combos into moves like d/f+P,P,f+P CreeD: dodee: she has a d/f+K+G sweep? dodee: d or d/f doesn't matter SummAh: ah sushi! SummAh: I want sushi todae! siLE-Pai: summah, come to the bay area siLE CreeD: I think you mean normal d+K+G yeah CreeD: that's a great sweep dodee: no it isn't! CreeD: 30% combo if it hits Doomboy: Oh can hey TR the d+k+g and low throw or something? CreeD: tho the opponent can TR dodee: what is guarunteed after it? CreeD: doom: they can TR but not enough time to TR dodee: I get reamed if I go for K Doomboy: ah CreeD: dodee: it's not guaranteed, but it's close... D/F+P, P, f+P CreeD: low bluefist - jab (whiff) - uppercut dodee: hrm CreeD: you can even do d/f+PPPd+K dodee: off the staggery animatoin? Doomboy: does her k+g combo now?, I'm sure I saw something small like k+g (maybe MC) DSK CreeD: dodee: no, maybe we're not on the same page. to my knowledge pai has no d/f+K+G. She has d+K+G (old VF2 sweep) and d/b+K+G (quick sweep from VF3 onwards) CreeD: doom: probably, since on-the-bounce hits are so easy now Doomboy: tis in mid air dodee: d/f+K+G = d+K+G dodee: same thing, both motions work dodee: always has, afaik *** Myke` (mike@c16826.farfl1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) has joined channel #vfhome CreeD: dodee: ok, that sweep always knocks down, and from the knockdown you can get nice OTB combos. *** Mode change "+o Myke`" on #vfhome by AwayEug CreeD: try u/f+K,K dodee: ohhhh, otb. CreeD: or d+K, d+K+G CreeD: yee CreeD: hey mykeobo. dodee: wait. dodee: how can you OTB with d/f+P dodee: taht'll be a ground punch CreeD: hold it down Myke`: hello CreeD: and it won't ground punch CreeD: gotta prepare and hold down during recovery of sweep CreeD: err hold down D/F dodee: I dig Reno-: jesus christ CreeD: yes? Reno-: when the fuck did kumite start being so fucking hard CreeD: laff. CreeD: wah wah CreeD: d+P throw, you win Reno-: no that don't work anymore =b Reno-: haha Myke`: dodee's playing VF4? Myke`: lol Myke`: :) CreeD: wow, that's rad that pai's b+K+G has different recovery depending on near or far. Reno-: oh, myke dodee: why's that lol? tellure: hey myke (or any VF savant here).. can you reverse a canned combo after getting hit with the first or second hit? e.g. PPPd+K hit by first P, reverse second Reno-: there's a branch in the ranking chart Reno-: with the Lord ranks Myke`: oh Reno Myke`: tellure dunno Myke`: tellure doubt it tellure: dunno!! :) Myke`: not after being HIT Myke`: geez CreeD: myke: were you smoking something, or was someone else? Pai's d/b+P doesn't give +22 initiative when blocked. CreeD: I mean it's great and all, but yeeeesh Doomboy: lol Myke`: Reno, that's good to hear tellure: myke: cause I remember back in VF3 you told me you could reverse the second P in Pai's d/f+P,PP.. Myke`: creed, let me check SummAh: tell..in vf3..it is indeed possbile CreeD: myke: ok SummAh: hell i abused that reversal part against lau n pai tellure: Summah: really? in any canned combo? I could never get that to work mikeohara: I didn't use Pai in VF3 *** dodee is now known as dodeeAFK SummAh: but the timing is all changed in vf4 tellure: mikeohara: ya I was talkin to myke Myke`: tellure, well yeah i can see some exceptions when the next hit in the combo isn't Guaranteed! that goes without saying! :P i mean if you can block it, of course you can reverse it rsw: tell: if you can't block it, you can't reverse it Reno-: CreeD: all of the cpu opponents i've creamed in the past are now like jacked up exponentially since i got a new rank dodeeAFK: you can reverse the 2nd hit after getting hit the first time? CreeD: tell: d/f+PPP is a true combo, always (I'm fairly sure) so no, you can't reverse. Not unless the opponent waits before sticking out the remaining [punches Reno-: this is freaky Reno-: heh tellure: rsw: dayum CreeD: reno: rad SummAh: thank u rich~ tellure: thx for clearing it up Reno-: wtf rad Reno-: i hate you creed Reno-: =b CreeD: reno: well if you're top rank, you can't ever lose it right? CreeD: so now you actually are getting a challenge Reno-: well Reno-: there's still Emperor Reno-: so I dunno *** bonano has left channel #vfhome Doomboy: bodacious Reno-: but I don't think I can lose it unless i lose to another high king CreeD: oh, high king wasn't the equiv to emperor? Myke`: creed, that should be 22 fr EXE CreeD: ok Myke`: is the command list wrong? Reno-: CreeD: i dunno for sure. i emailed sega and they haven't responded kil20: tellure:aren't u telly tel from TZ? CreeD: myke: I glicked the grd column to sort and see what moves gave her initiative when blocked.. that jumped to the top Myke`: oh yeh, fuckin typo there CreeD: gotta refresh to see if it's there. Myke`: i'll fix it now CreeD: ehehe ok ETP: high kings carry the spheres, and dural appears as an emperor in kumit CreeD: yeah also the word "near" is "neaR" somewhere in there Myke`: neaR is hiP though Myke`: like JuNkY's JuNgLe Myke`: :) Myke`: brb Reno-: ........... Reno-: wtf....... Reno-: I just had a round with this wolf bitch Reno-: and i threw out 6 throws.... all different Reno-: HE ESCAPED THEM ALL Reno-: A;LKJAS;DLFKJAS Reno- cries ETP: heh CreeD: ouch, jesus, the K in d/f+P,K is 46 frames Exe? Myke`: reno, you're funny CreeD: reno: laffff Reno-: this is disheartening, hah Myke`: bitchin about the "CPU" like that :) Reno-: yeah, I know :) Myke` imagines the tiny one line of code: if (being thrown) then escape; *** ETP has left channel #vfhome CreeD: myke: so that's a legit stat right? 46 frames? more than double the execution time for the reverse crescent if it's part of her canned combos? Reno-: man, mad controller reading here =b Myke`: creed yes, MAX CHARGE misery011: yeah, wonder how they code the AI Myke`: check the notes tellure: kil20: nope CreeD: myke: I'm talking about the K in d/f+P, K CreeD: or KPK Myke`: creed so am i Myke`: the K can be charged kil20: ok CreeD: you can charge that? rad!@!@!@! CreeD: my bad Myke`: ......... .. ... .... .. Myke`: RTFM!@#$! Myke`: it SEZ SO in the notes :P CreeD: hey this is neat, blocked canned K+G in P --> K+G gives +5 tellure: I'm starting to think VF has too many special cases CreeD: myke: yes. *** ghostAFK is now known as ghostdog tellure: too many exceptions CreeD: tell: 4 more than any of the others combined :) tellure: Creed: what are the others? Myke`: tellure exceptions like what? Myke`: ok Pai's list corrected. refresh SummAh: tell: not special.... SummAh: it's called BS baobab: good night everyone *** Signoff: baobab (time fer sleep) Myke`: has anyone tried printing the vfdc command lists? Myke`: do they fit on a portrait oriented page? SummAh: i did! misery011: no not yet SummAh: it didn't work! *** Signoff: Doomboy (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) Myke`: what didn't work, london? :P SummAh: haha! Myke`: hehe CreeD: tell: well, give me a category at least :D ... I dunno, just concepts that are new to the game. moves that are specially made to be interruptable by throws.. only a handful of them in the game. The one low attack in the game that staggers on normal hit. Low catch throws that interrupt attacks. etc. SummAh: well..I had hope the printed version would look like the internet version SummAh: ohh...but outta no where..there's extra gaps between moves...etc tellure: I'd add the sabaki's only work against certain moves Myke`: tellure reversals only work against certain moves, too tellure: well they only work against a certain class at leas tellure: but some sabaki's are like.. uhh.. High Punch but no high kicks Myke`: sabaki's are the same Myke`: right Myke`: HP and HK are different classes tellure: nah, that's gettin too noodly SummAh: seriously..if ur sabaki can deflect kicks as well..why would i bother attacking? Myke` activates shields tellure: heh Myke`: tellure no it's not! tellure: well IMO it is! :) SummAh: noodly? CreeD: tell: that's not noodly, man... it's LESS specific than a reversal.. and reversals aren't weird Myke`: well your "O" is wrong! :P SummAh: teach me some new london plz tellure: but hey, I'm not tryin to start anything.. heck I haven't even played the game enough tellure: Myke: no right and wrong there, brother :) Myke`: tellure, you'll appreciate it more after playing i think CreeD: noodly is pai's P, canned K+G being +5 frames when blocked at long range and +4 up close. Myke`: sabaki's add another depth, otherwise they'd be no different to reversals CreeD: I think of them as attacks that NORMALLY would suck, but are given a lot of priority. tellure: Creed: reversals are more general.. high / med / low as opposed to high -> certain type of high attack only SummAh: oh..those that i classify as BS move aye~ Myke`: i think the fact that you must consider the 'type' or 'class' of attack now rather than just high/mid/low CreeD: tell: but reversals are also specific in the sense that while aoi can damn near reverse anything, akira can't touch circular attacks/sweeps... kage can only reverse punches, and they can't be 'elbowy' punches... wolf can reverse sidekicks but not knees or some other mid kicks. tellure: Creed: that stuff always bugged the heck out of me too tellure: Creed: tons of exceptions Myke`: tellure, you're such a sour puss :P tellure: hehe CreeD: it's a legit attempt to add depth anyway, not just random obscurity. The fact that lion's sabaki is specifically against mid kicks makes it an ideal attack to throw out when you think a knocked down opponent will get up with a high rising attack. Myke`: you can't expect everyone to be the same Myke`: it builds character SummAh: tell: it's not fps :P tellure: no.. but I don't think they should add diversity by breaking a nice generic 'system' like the reversal system Myke`: they didn't break it tellure: to me it just adds special cases that clutter up my brain when I' tellure: I'm trying to play :) Myke`: even the reversal system is based on the class of attack (what creed already explained to you) CreeD: tell: they took a specific reversal system in VF3 and neatly compartmentalized it into uniformity/ease of use CreeD: it used to be that you had to consider using high reversal vs. jacky's punch and beat knuckle (high and mid respectively) but mid vs. jacky's elbow tellure: it's true it's yet another layer of depth.. no disputing that.. I just think that it starts to get noodly at that point tellure: everyone has their own point of course Myke`: tellure, you just need to play more tellure: heh tellure: that I do! tellure: I dunno if that will change my opinion.. but I do need to play more Myke`: then you'll SEE Myke`: how it all fits nicely together rsw: tell is beginning to see the truth tellure: goddamn modchip co. hasto send me a new chip SummAh: lol rsw: which is that vf4 sucks ass. tellure: woo is rich on my side? :) CreeD: tellure: well, think of it another way, they're very nonspecific in the sense that they beat... say.. "all mid kicks". That's a big class of moves. From midrange, only a sidekick or similar midkick can hit, so the sabaki there is not just a 'useful in theory' tool, it's a practical, hella good move. Myke`: don't be a rich! :P tellure: hah *** dodeeAFK is now known as dodee tellure: Creed: oh I know.. I love doing the sabaki.. it's verrry satisfying :). I'm just bein a bit of a sour puss as myke points out.. because I would really like to not have to remember all those extra exceptions SummAh: ah tell..dun be lazy lah~~~~~~~ CreeD: laff, PPKK is no more counterable than PPP, rich is sure to love that. Myke`: tellure is easily intimidated SummAh: after u get used to it...u won't even have to think abt it CreeD: tell: it seems like more memorization if you didn't already have a ton of shit memorized from VF1/2/3 CreeD: I'd haaate to try to pick the game up now, without experience there SummAh: i think gamespy had a good line for vf4 SummAh: 'easier than ever to pick up..harder than ever to master' kil20: i have yet a another noob question what version is tha ps2 vf4 game using B or C? SummAh: C kil20: thanx tellure: Creed: well I had a fair amount memorized since VF3.. but I guess what I'm saying is that the extra layers aren't logical for me.. they're not easy to remember and execute like high / mid / low reversal logic tellure: why only be able to reverse 'straight' attacks vs. 'circular' ones? where's the logic? tellure: that's why it 'breaks' the system for me CreeD: tell: yeah, they're more needing memorization because sabaki's a very small and obscure class, only a handful of sabakis in the game. If sega decides to give everyone a sabaki, I bet it somehow is made more uniform in vf5 or whatever. Myke`: it's part of the characters fighting style CreeD: tell: because if you could reverse them all, there would be no way to hit someone with a certain class. Myke`: like aoi :) CreeD: I mean if akira reverses high vs. pai she literally couldn't do any high attacks to him CreeD: but make that "circular" exception and she can at least land a risky crescent kick tellure: Creed: but that's OK, because it's balanced by the fact that you still have to guess 1 out of 3 to be right, and on top of that the damage is crap! :) tellure: plus the risk of doing the reversal in the first place.. if no attack comes you're wide open tellure: there are lots of balancing factors.. IMO they could have left out the straight/circular stuff altogether and the game would have been better off CreeD: tell: that's the thing, you're not. A mid reversal vs. some characters defeats all painful options, namely kage. And you can throw escape as the reversal misses. SummAh: myke CreeD: it's important to have irreversible attacks so that YOU aren't the one forced to guess 1/3 right after akira does reversal option select Myke`: yes ah dodee: hw can you remove all circulars? SummAh: where is the drinking FAQ on vfdc? dodee: that removes like...half the moves Myke`: VF3 section dodee: err SummAh: ok SummAh: not under shun ah~..i get it CreeD: I dunno about that, circular is specifically outside crescents... heelkicks aren't circular enough to be irreversible CreeD: eg kage's d+K+G is a midkick reversal since VF2 rsw: errr rsw: no rsw: high kick in 2/3 rsw: and only for pai in 2 CreeD: FUCK YOU NO YEAH IM JUST A FUCKING SCRUB FUCK OFF ASSHOLE tellure: a good test of how logical the straight / circular class distinction is would be to explain it to a newbie player. Explaining the reversal system is simple.. do the low / mid / high reversal for low / mid / high attacks.. but try explaining how you should watch out for straight or circular attacks CreeD: rich, you're wrong, it's a d/b+P reversible for wolf in VF2. CreeD: yaaay rich was wrong! CreeD: I win! CreeD: you lose! CreeD: rub it in! rsw: ..... CreeD: suck it up! rsw: wrong creed dodee: oh my CreeD: laff! rsw: so unbelievably wrong *** Omaha_Jef (rodnutzjr@ACA4DDEA.ipt.aol.com) has joined channel #vfhome CreeD: you're so wrong you can't even admit it. rsw: wolf can't reverse kage's d+K+G in vf2 CreeD: wait did I say d+K+G? I was just fucking with you. CreeD: ahahaha! wrong creed! CreeD: yeah, I was thinking of the K in PPPK mentally CreeD: a whirly attack that is nonetheless a sidekick reversal rsw: oh that CreeD: sorry! my bad! rsw: you fool, why didn't you specify Myke`: god i love 4 day long weekends CreeD: yeah d+K+G is high reversible by wolf in VF3 anyway, IIRC, so there's another whirly attack that's still reversible CreeD: myke: I love 1 day off a week, it's really fucking cool. Unbelieably neat rsw: jacky's heelkick is a full circle, he even changes stance (kage doesn't) CreeD: especially since it nets me 1/5th of what you make in 3 days of work! Myke`: i propose we move to 3 day weekends CreeD: yeah. So HA HA DODEE WRONG! TAGTEAM! Myke`: 4 day working weeks tellure: you see.. this attack is more whirly than that one.. just memorize which attacks are whirlier than these ones and you'll be fine dodee: huh? CreeD: I propose we raise the minimum wage to fucking enough to not be homeless and starving :) dodee: what about dodee? Myke`: hehe CreeD: dodee: the "take away circulars and that's half the moves" comment earlier. dodee: eh? CreeD: but I'm just teasing! shields deactivate! SummAh: CRIKEY! SummAh: now I know why I was able to figure out his DP bullshit! SummAh: I've read Sal's FAQ b4 SummAh: but forgot abt its existence! SummAh hides in bomb shelter CreeD: tell: it's not memorization because it follows a fairly reliable pattern. K+G's are generally crescent kicks and generally too circular to reverse. Everything else.. heelkicks/spinkicks/whatever, usually aren't executed with K+G and therefore are not reversible CreeD: kage's being the notable exception. rsw sprays #vfhome with bullets Myke`: missed me! SummAh glad bomb shelter is bullet proof CreeD recycles his death animation for the fourth episode in a row, sickening RSW to the point of instant death. CreeD: lol myke nice descriptive terms. f+K --> "slow mid kick" CreeD: also called SMK among the pai elite SummAh: BKC! Myke`: creed where's that? Myke`: i didn't come up with Pai's names SummAh: BIG KICK COMBO! CreeD: myke: pai movelist Myke`: thank GLC/rich :P CreeD: yeah!!!! kil20: any lei players here? Myke`: i could only translate the "foreigners" attacks names Myke`: the others are just made up from the past CreeD: I see. Myke`: the US version leaves the japanese/chinese names for moves intact CreeD: myke: yeah drives me nuts Myke`: well translating them might have been too hard Myke`: and in some cases, silly SummAh: yah lor CreeD: "try evade-throw break-guard after guarding akira's doujenshohoutojitekikyaku!" dodee: akira's knee not counterable at all? SummAh: try translating 'fierce tiger...climb mountain' Myke`: dodee only throw counterable CreeD: dodee: throw counterable, with 1 frame to spare. SummAh: or translate this : lei's d/f PG throw ''chop mountain, throw it into sea" CreeD: don't wait to throw either, do it while he's still airborne. CreeD: summah: that's rad actually. CreeD: I love that. CreeD: so much lost. Myke`: CHOP~ mountain SummAh: oops CreeD: aoi's "golden chains of love" SummAh: I forgot Myke`: creed i agree CreeD: that sounds diry SummAh: 'CHOP!~ mountain' CreeD: "reaping sickle of destruction" ... RAD is the first thing I'd say if I were a tekkenite SummAh: the best is still 'tetsuzankou!' CreeD: iron CreeD: mountainNNnnNN CreeD: CHOOMMMM SummAh: some guy asked me the other day what 'naaamuuuuu' means CreeD: what does renken senpuuga mean anyway summah? CreeD: namu amida buddha. SummAh: creed..spelling error SummAh: no senpuuga CreeD: summah: ok, correct please sifu. SummAh: it's senpuukya CreeD: and it translates to? SummAh: 'continous punch..spinning kick' SummAh: sounds damn good in chinese too I must say CreeD: rad! CreeD: kyaku! SummAh: London just suxors...period~! CreeD: ur london more than most SummAh: yah lor! SummAh: soooooo whaaaaat! *** Mode change "-b *!*@*.be" on #vfhome by CreeD *** Mode change "-b *!*@217.136.246.210" on #vfhome by CreeD *** Mode change "-b *!*nsertName@*.ipt.aol.com" on #vfhome by CreeD CreeD: jesus we had some bannage. CreeD: laff. *** TURBOMEAT (TURBOMEAT@h0030ab0a732f.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined channel #vfhome SummAh: who's that? CreeD: summah: belgian! SummAh: ohhh! CreeD: summah: u remember.. "dun talk about bukkake aieee! no more buttplugs! talk about VF now plz!" *** Signoff: Omaha_Jef (Your never gonna win..... I have STRENGTH!) tellure: haha dodee: hah tellure: who said that? SummAh: no more putang talk! dodee: porn porn porn! CreeD: tell: this dude who stalks poor devilrei SummAh: BAN PUTANG YAK! SummAh: yah CreeD: theoretically a friend of hers SummAh: mad crush! CreeD: who's so friendly he gets banned all the time and she now doesn't come on here :/ dodee: she was here earlier ghostdog: and yesterday... CreeD: that's good. The other day she was on irc but wouldn't join for fear of encountering dinky. CreeD: Dinky. dodee: hahaha really? CreeD: aka almaci. CreeD: yeah and she had a new nick too dodee: that's funny and sad simultaneously SummAh: what new nick? CreeD: I had to tell her the dude was banned, then she joined. SummAh: ohhh SummAh: that was her! CreeD: ahh sooo! dodee: that's supremely spooky. SummAh: so ga SummAh: I was wondering who that was.. SummAh: suddenly pvt msg me otta the blue CreeD: yah *** Signoff: kil20 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) CreeD: she needs to just sever ties with the dude, ship him out of omaha. CreeD: myke, can you do me a quick favor? rsw: ..why did you unban? they'll just be back and annoy us again, and we'll have to ban them again SummAh: we had this discusssion yesterday CreeD: while we're on the topic of bans, can you ban "FaydetoBlacke" for having the gayest nick ever? Myke`: creed no CreeD: myke: come on, you know he's no VF master with a name like that. CreeD: he or she. TURBOMEAT: CreeD-WHAT?! somebody took my Gayest Nick Ever title? SummAh: that's just so violently super man gayish nick CreeD: turbo: well, you're still a close second or third. TURBOMEAT: I won't settle for that... Myke`: creed, what's the favour? CreeD: myke: while we're on the topic of bans, can you ban "FaydetoBlacke" for having the gayest nick ever? CreeD: turbomeat would be a GREAT ring name for pai in japan. CreeD: perfectly accurate. Myke`: creed THAT'S the favour? CreeD: myke; yeah, jesus, fuck up a joke by not getting it for half an hour, why don't you? rsw lobs a satchel charge into #vfhome Myke`: .................. .. ... .... ... . dodee: HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE! Myke`: lol Myke`: i'm in the middle of a post CreeD: yay easter. dodee: except for any JEWS that are here Myke`: yeah happy easter everyone CreeD: myke: is it a scorcher to some newbie fuck? SummAh: GIB ME CHOCOLATE TURBOMEAT: I really wish the US had vfnet Myke`: creed, no, just a reply to yupa CreeD: myke: oh ok. TURBOMEAT: or a slot for PS2 memory cards TURBOMEAT: or something dodee: SUMMAH: YOU AREN'T A JEW, ARE YOU? SummAh: I AM CHINESE SummAh: SO CAN HAVE CHOCOLATE! SummAh: err wait SummAh: oopos dodee: so, chinese people can be jews CreeD: dodee's in bait mode. dodee: jewISH anyway. dodee: creed: yeah. so? rsw: dodee: wrong, china just recognized judiasm as a religion dodee: wrong what? tellure: dodee: wasn't jesus jewish too? :) dodee: jesus was jewish, telly. tellure: so strange that the jews shouldn't celebrate easter then CreeD: tellure: wrong. Jesus was jewish. dodee: what does china recognizing judaism have to do with genetically chinese people being jewish? dodee: hahaha dodee: indeed matt. CreeD: :p rsw: ..because there are "genetically chinese" people in china who are jewish TURBOMEAT: haha tellure: Creed: better tell dodee too if you're concerned about capilization :) dodee: rich. buddy. reread. TURBOMEAT: my friend was lashing out on organized religion like a true pseudophilosophical asshole *** Signoff: HotSauce (Idle time limit exceeded) TURBOMEAT: and he thought Jesus was a Catholic dodee: you're saying "no dodee! not what YOU said, what YOU said!" TURBOMEAT: I wanted to punch him in the mouth CreeD: turbo: laff. Well, despite a lack of education, he may have had a valid point or two when lashing out at organized religion. CreeD: but that's just an opinion, and one that stems from trolling even. So maybe not! rsw: organized religion can go fuck itself. CreeD: attaboy. TURBOMEAT: I'm not a big fan of organized religion, either dodee: what a week! the queen mum, arthur, and that other guy. CreeD: even disorganized, chaotic religion can go fuck itself. Myke`: dodee, yeah man! CreeD: that dude who was in tv and stuff TURBOMEAT: but I hate when people derail it like they're the first one to come to the "religion sucks" epiphone rsw: billy wilder and milton berle dodee: milton berle. that's who I meant dodee: who's billy wilder? rsw: . . .. ... .. . . dodee: dont . . .. ... .. . . me Myke`: who's TURBOMEAT? dodee: like 2 people here might know who billy wilder is. CreeD: heh, guy I worked with was like "man! gene wilder died" .. I was like NO WAY!.. then talk naturally progressed to richard pryor and he talked about him in the past tense too. That's when I knew guy was high when he came to work. rsw: i'm sorry, but that question demands a "... . .. . .. . .." dodee: haha CreeD: rsw: who's billy wilder? dodee: ok, who knows who billy wilder is, say something dodee: hah, fuck you williams! CreeD: watch it be some obscure bastard. CreeD: number 6, here's your chance! dodee: some of us aren't obscure entertainment enthusiasts. dodee: rich, the walking compendium of not-really-famous people TURBOMEAT: Myke-A VF 'scrub' rsw: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Wilder,+Billy rsw: look at the movies he's done TURBOMEAT: Gene Wilder = Willy Wonka rsw: yah! like, totally obscure!@!@ TURBOMEAT: right? Myke`: turbomeat ok. CreeD: "dude billy wilder was the leading key grip in over 4 blaxploitation flicks from spring of 77 to december of 78!" dodee: ok... Myke`: yeah, willy wonka TURBOMEAT: who was in that movie with Richard Pryor dodee: after looking at that, who's billy wilder? CreeD: ok, haven't heard of the first ten TURBOMEAT: where he was deaf and Pryor was blind dodee: haha CreeD: turbo: gene wilder Myke`: that was gene wilder CreeD: that was a good flick. dodee: nothing's jumping off the page at me rsw: you philistine CreeD: of jesus I just saw him, and so did you dodee dodee: sorry rich, just cause he was in a ton of shit in the 50s doesn't make him not-obscure. CreeD: in ocean's eleven CreeD: eheehe, but we're speaking of 1960 CreeD: oops. rsw: he's a director, you ass dodee: why isn't he credited then? dodee: OBSCURE, deal with it! rsw: one of the most influential american directors ever rsw: dodee you uncultured freak dodee: omg dodee didn't know who some director from the 50s was! what a fool! rsw: yes. dodee: rich, NO ONE KNEW WHO HE WAS rsw: exactly. CreeD: yeah but... influential doesn't mean famous ... look at guitar magazine's top 100 guitarists of all time CreeD: average guy's heard of 12 dodee: for being influential, he sure isn't very famous. CreeD: top ten they may have heard of hendrix and that's it rsw: not famous... . .. . dodee: not famous = obscure dodee: sorry. rsw: ask anyone even vaguely interested in film, and they would/should know Myke`: who's not famous? CreeD: I think dodee has you on this one. randomly sample 10K americans... even including ppl over 30... and you're gonna come up with less than 1000 who've heard of the dude I bet. Or maybe 1000 know "he was a director" but couldn't name a single movie. rsw: anyone with the tiniest bit of knoweledge about movies dodee: that's like a fan of nursing saying some influential nurse from the 50's isn't obscure rsw: just because you two hicks have never heard of billy wilder doesn't mean that others have not CreeD: well film has a slightly bigger following than nursing dodee: no one else here knew either, dr. obscuro CreeD: rsw: statistics don't lie. #vfhome's 1/27 ghostdog: laterz... rsw: no one else is TALKING CreeD: of course it's skewed, #vfhome's under thirty mostly... dodee: matty: be fair, go ask in #obscuredirectors *** Signoff: ghostdog () CreeD: dodee: or #filmfanatic dodee: queen elizabeth 2 = NOT OBSCURE dodee: billy wilder = obscure rsw: ask most baby boomers and they'll know, in addition to anyone with the slightest interest in movies dodee: translation "ask anyone who might know who he is, and you'll get a better ratio" rsw: i'll give you that he's generally obscure in our age range and below dodee: baby boomers and movie buffs at best are a total of like...10% of the population rsw: but a bit older and more than a few would know, and most would know when you get to the boomers TURBOMEAT: baby boomers are more than 10% rsw: baby boomers 10% of population? rsw: dude. rsw: you are so fucking unbelievably wrong. TURBOMEAT: me? rsw: dodee TURBOMEAT: oh CreeD: yeah dodee, he has you on that one. boomers are the biggest chunk o' the population CreeD: juuuust starting to die off TURBOMEAT: yeah dodee: so give me a percentage TURBOMEAT: hence "baby boom" CreeD: yeah! percentage! dodee: baby boomers being people born between 1940 and 1960 dodee: that are still alive. CreeD: yee. CreeD: our parents and shit. dodee: lets go TOTALLY nuts, and say 25% dodee: assuming ALL of them know who billy wilder is, that's still fairly obscure rsw: dude, you're desperate dodee: dude, I'm accurate. CreeD: I dunno, I associate obscure with maybe less than 20% rsw: in more ways than one. CreeD: 1 in 4 people isn't like "You gotta dig deep to find anyone who's heard of him" dodee: after you throw out how many are dead, and how many dont know, you have below 20% tellure: 25% is pretty high to a certain fact IMO CreeD: well, but how many don't know may be smaller than you think. How many ppl our age don't know who stephen spielberg is? or at least oliver stone? CreeD: so tell's heard of him I take it. tellure: yeah.. saw his obit on CNN :) rsw: doesn't matter. a significant amount of the population would know who he is. he is not obscure. his passing made news on all practically all news networks dodee: telly: haha dodee: I didn't hear shit about it tellure: I think I'd heard the name before.. but that's about it.. mikeohara is away, ZzZ [log:ON] [page:ON] [email:mohara5604@aol.com] [ICQ:13015726] dodee: I heard about non-obscure people, before. *** mikeohara is now known as mike[ZzZ] dodee: errr dodee: -before, +though tellure: incidentally, I saw on CNN they went around asking random people on the street if they knew what rebar is.. and 1 out of 15 ppl knew CreeD: wow, I know what rebar is CreeD: weird. tellure: indeed *** jjcha-mee (jjcha@adsl-64-171-3-93.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome dodee: people are generally stupid tellure: sadly, true CreeD: cheech, quick poll. before he died, did you know of billy wilder, and what he did? dodee: if they dont have contact with something on like a daily basis, most people have no idea what it is jjcha-mee: film director jjcha-mee: famous for marilyn monroe flicks jjcha-mee: among other things CreeD: attaboy. jjcha-mee: not very familiar but I knew that uch rsw: BOOYAH jjcha-mee: er that much rsw kicks dodee in the nuts dodee: would you call him "obscure," jason? CreeD: dodee: I have contact with rebars on almost a daily basic on irc/vfdc CreeD: lol. dodee: ooooh, jason knew, there's a regular joe on the street jjcha-mee: no, though I can see how most people wouldn't have known of him *** Signoff: Reno- (To the world, you may be just one person, but to one person, you may be the world) dodee kicks rich back in the nuts dodee: then does the "obscure dead guy" dance CreeD: well, stats include everyone dodee, can't reverse it say "if you ask people who are unlikely to know..." dodee: so far there's 2 people that know outta like...a zillion. tellure: Total Baby Boomer (ages 35 to 54) population in the United States: 82,826,479 tellure: Percentage of the U.S. population that are Baby Boomers: 30.2 percent dodee: telly: alive? CreeD: dodee: well, out of the five non-idlers here, two have heard of him *** Three-11 (grassroots@lsanca1-ar19-4-46-093-164.lsanca1.vz.dsl.genuity.net) has joined channel #vfhome *** SummAh is now known as SumShower rsw kicks dodee in the nuts tellure: yeah, 2000 census dodee: matty: one of which is a film buff, skewed! *** Three-11 is now known as gilley tellure: http://www.aetnafinancial.com/news_center/press_releases/babyboomersataglance. shtml rsw: uneducated, uncultured buffoon. dodee: the cross section is insufficient CreeD: dodee: sure but one of which is a mainer. dodee: what does mainer have to do with anything? CreeD: yeah it's not much of a sample group CreeD: dodee: I'm joking, durr CreeD: maine's not known for its culture rsw: 20-30 years is about 15% CreeD: unless you consider digging up nightcrawlers for money a culture. dodee: not many places are known for culture CreeD: dodee: a few are known for lack of it tho! arkansas, iowa... I guess maine isn't there yet tho CreeD: but it could be/should be. CreeD: anyway, it was a jokezor dodee: nah, maine's a world apart from arkansas rsw: i declare this argument officially won by rsw, and officially closed. tellure: hah dodee: you aren't allowed to declare anything CreeD: laff, the dodee tactic reversed! rsw: i just did. dodee: not my fault your obscure director died *** nanq1 (nandato@222.new-york-02rh15rt-ny.dial-access.att.net) has joined channel #vfhome *** Mode change "+o nanq1" on #vfhome by AwayEug rsw: you can say whatever you'd like. but the argument was proven dodee: I'm glad he died! dodee: so there1 jjcha-mee: wow CreeD: hey sal, who's billy wilder? rsw: lafff jjcha-mee: not more than a couple of hours and I've crashed my computer nanq1: natinal lampoon's CreeD: oh oh, the cavalry! CreeD: sal: ok thanks jjcha-mee: oh god jjcha-mee: heh tellure: billy wilder.. didn't he do that comedy with Richard Pryor rsw: sal: who was queen mum? nanq1: mum? jjcha-mee: jesus that's right *CreeD* LOFL jjcha-mee: juts a week for deaths eh? CreeD: yes. jjcha-mee: at least lyle lovitt made it out okay... I guess tellure: heh CreeD: that's a shame. nanq1: finally saw the SG tourney replays... tellure: rsw: you confused him with the british spelling of 'mum' rsw: ... rsw: that's what she was called dodee: sal, who's queen elizabeth the second? rsw: there is no "british spelling" of "mum" nanq1: some ho dodee: *shake shake* tellure: rsw: well over here people say 'mom' no? :) dodee: what is she QUEEN of, sal? CreeD: lol dodee CreeD: the cavalry is shot down by indians rsw: dodee, it's lost dodee: errr, what was she queen of? tellure: Queen of Hearts no doubt CreeD: before it even hits the field nanq1: some brittish shit country tellure: psst.. don't guess Queen of Denmark dodee: see, he knows *** Steffi_G (kwo@adsl-49017.turboline.skynet.be) has joined channel #vfhome dodee: he said brittish. he's right.... or something. rsw: yuh huh. dodee: .be, who is billy wilder? and did you know before he died? Steffi_G: Yes I knew Steffi_G: One of the best directors EVER dodee: I quit! Steffi_G: Fortunes coockie dodee: the freak knew! Steffi_G: Some like it hot Steffi_G: The front Page ( one of my all time favourites ) dodee runs off screaming Steffi_G: Har har dodee: you see who you're associated with, rich? jjcha-mee: so Steffi_G: He was 95 and gave us some of the best and sharpest satire ever tellure: well done Steff jjcha-mee: um anyone here familiar with adobe premier? Myke`: chaj, yeah nanq1: Queen of the United Kingdom dodee: still not working, j? rsw: VINDICATION! jjcha-mee: nope jjcha-mee: trying to go the primere route Steffi_G: Umm dodee do you have a problem with my knoledge or something ? dodee: if that's vindication, you're more than welcome to it jjcha-mee: er premiere Myke`: nan, btw, were the sg replays the actual replay files? jjcha-mee: though I don't know if premiere is the way to go dodee: steffi, not your knowledge in particular, no. nanq1: yep mike dodee: its more broad than that. nanq1: i have the ems adapter Myke`: nan, did you see my kage choke? :) Steffi_G: What then ? nanq1: hehe yeah man, some knees here and there....but! *** kil20 (n_a@sdn-ar-002okocitP288.dialsprint.net) has joined channel #vfhome Myke`: that last fucking tft combo dodee: its-a you face! Myke`: i just *had* to choke on that one nanq1: you have the same problem i currently have on knee combos.... nanq1: i cant get em on light weights Steffi_G: Lol oh ok Myke`: but it was jacky Myke`: i never miss nanq1: yep rsw: dodee: the character of people who are aware of something still doesn't take away my point. the dude isn't even from this country Myke`: for lightweights i always go for d+P+K, knee, kickflip nanq1: pai and aoi....i dunno why i seem to miss dodee: guilt by association Myke`: i miss knees aginst LWs too Steffi_G: what, what point ? Steffi_G: Whats goin on here ? dodee: I'd rather be wrong than proven right by such. Myke`: so annoying nanq1: aaahh i knew there was something diff nanq1: indeed Myke`: nan, what's different? tellure: can someone dcc me the sg matches? nanq1: it was cool that you used b/f+k or f,b+k , good shit nanq1: mike: the timing.. dodee: akira makes me angry. Myke`: nan, i can't remember what i did that day except for choking on that last tft Myke`: i didn't deserve to lose to that scrub :P nanq1: lei is such a whore, and ppl complain about akira... nanq1: hehe dodee: are people playing him a lot in the arcade? nanq1: i like that dude with akira... Myke`: that was danny nanq1: yep tellure: myke/creed/someone: dcc? Myke`: he's awesome when he gets his flow on Myke`: tellure i don't have 'em nanq1: cool hair on akira lol, dodee: have generic stats been published from vf.net? dodee: like what chaaracters are played the most, etc? tellure: k Myke`: heh Myke`: tellure *psst* bug nandato for them nanq1: d,db,b+p, shrm.....QR..sidekick.....backstagger... Myke`: nan, how'd you get them btw? nanq1: i asked feizaq nanq1: 50 replys! Myke`: ah yeah, he's got them tellure: isn't nan on a 56k though? Myke`: tellure theyre replay files Myke`: i.e. tiny tellure: ohh nanq1: replays tellure: I don't have my ps2 workin yet :( tellure: BTW.. how do you get the replays onto your mem card? nanq1: tell: u have an ems adapter? tellure: nan: dunno, what does it do Myke`: tellure, there's a good thread in vfdc explaining how tellure: ay tellure: just the short version? rsw twitches Myke`: you need the ems adapter nanq1: tell Myke`: short version: RTFM :P nanq1: go here nanq1: http://virtuafighter.com/versuscity/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=console&Number=29127 &page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart= tellure: Myke: you're fond of that phrase aren't you :) tellure: rich: I could play but only for a very short time.. my g/f and I are goin to a party soon Myke`: tellure, extremely nanq1: quake IS a party... rsw: since we're on modem again, it's pile on tell! rsw: err. since *i'm* on modem again nanq1: haha tellure: hah tellure: ay CreeD: brb, evening girlfriend fight. rsw: wat!@ rsw: put up server nanq1: thas gonna be a while tellure: owch *** Signoff: kil20 () tellure: I wonder if that means "evening girlfriend" fight.. or evening.. girlfriend fight tellure: i.e. is she different in the evening, or is evening the time such fights usually happen tellure: I'm sure Creed knows of course that the best thing to soothe those raw feelings after the fight is over is to play some quake with your internet buddies nanq1: he'll come back stronger than ever tellure: btw.. shouldn't that have been 'fiancee fight'? did they call it off? dodee: maybe that's the fight tellure: heh tellure: that'd be a hella fight nanq1: .. nanq1: did creed put up the server? tellure: don't think so *** HotSauce (answerbook@12-234-226-83.client.attbi.com) has joined channel #vfhome *** SumShower is now known as SumOut nanq1: ... *** INH (InsertName@ACC3D465.ipt.aol.com) has joined channel #vfhome INH: hello INH: back from my break *** Signoff: tellure (Leaving) *** alThrGone is now known as al`Thor dodee: so dude gives me this URL today, after I buy the ps2: dodee: http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=B900062R INH: AHHH!!!! INH: GOOD! INH: dodee got a ps2! INH: w00t w00t! dodee: used machine, the only other two games I want, and a dvd remote dodee: for $50 less than I paid *** DevilRei (trilluser@207-191-203-199.cpe.ats.mcleodusa.net) has joined channel #vfhome dodee: rei. INH: damn it dodee INH: good job DevilRei: I bring you LOOOOOOOOOOOVE *** jjcha-RH (jjcha@adsl-64-171-2-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome jjcha-RH: woo hoo!!!!!! jjcha-RH: WHO WANTS IT?? jjcha-RH: my first mpg!! jjcha-RH: and it's smooth! nanq1: me jjcha-RH: just 12 seconds or so nanq1: send *** Mode change "+o DevilRei" on #vfhome by SumOut SumOut: for me? SumOut: :P DevilRei: Thankee Summa-kun DevilRei patpats summers *** Signoff: jjcha-mee (Ping timeout: no data for 255 seconds) jjcha-RH: holy shit jjcha-RH: like 8 seconds of video is 8 megs?? nanq1: what is it about? jjcha-RH: heh I guess I need to compress SumOut: shit! jjcha-RH: but it's smooth jjcha-RH: heh SumOut: compress dude! Myke`: chaj, compress the sucka jjcha-RH: it's vf4 of course! jjcha-RH: a bit of akira taniguchi versus yusuke Myke`: use divx4 if you have it SumOut: good SumOut: I'm looking forward to clips of yusuke~ nanq1: 8 seconds??? jjcha-RH: I'm sooo happy jjcha-RH: yah yusuke's good nanq1: tooo small SumOut: but jason: everything else is working fine now? jjcha-RH: heh it was just a test jjcha-RH: yah so you guys were right jjcha-RH: on the video capture it looks jerky jjcha-RH: but I took the time to actually save it the nreplay it jjcha-RH: the replay is greta jjcha-RH: er great nanq1: send me replays J! jjcha-RH: okok jjcha-RH: hng on SumOut: then sal send me the replays! jjcha-RH: now like I said Myke`: chaj, send it over when it's done. i'll give you my "professional" opinion ;) jjcha-RH: I'm a total newbie about this nanq1: i hope you have ems adapter jjcha-RH: so jjcha-RH: divx codes, I know they exist, but I have no idea how to use em SumOut: profession opinion muahaha jjcha-RH: codecs or whtaever jjcha-RH: ok hang on shit heh shit shit lemmie actually record over a whole match Myke`: chaj, you got 'em installed? it's easy jjcha-RH: I dunno, letsee what premiere has on it nanq1: i hope you have ems adapter, J SumOut: chris has em Myke`: chaj, don't use premiere for the compression jjcha-RH: naw it's not replays themselves, though I have an ems adapter.. (gave it to howard actually) jjcha-RH: shit dude SumOut: get it off chris jjcha-RH: I'm the one who supplied chris fool jjcha-RH: =) SumOut: OHHHHH Myke`: chaj, use virtualdub jjcha-RH: got it SumOut: SU GEH~ nanq1: for the SG? jjcha-RH: does that have this divx 4 or 5 shit? nanq1: sg tourney? Myke`: does what have? jjcha-RH: virtualdub Myke`: it has whatever you got installed jjcha-RH: I see nanq1: summ: chaj has ems adapter? jjcha-RH: now how can I check if I've got divx installed? Myke`: codecs are a system thing Myke`: what OS you using? jjcha-RH: sorry I'm such a newbie jjcha-RH: just got winxp Myke`: ok good, its easy SumOut: sal: he just said he supplied ems adaptors to chris...n howard~ SumOut: so he can easily get it of em.. nanq1: oooohhhhh SumOut: then u leech the replays SumOut: then i leech off u nanq1: cooool Myke`: chaj, go to Device Manager SumOut: standard procedures SumOut: hehehe Myke`: (right click, My Comp, properties, etc..) nanq1: send me a bunch of replays jason...damm it! Myke`: under "Sound, video and game controllers" you should see "Video Codecs Myke`: double click it jjcha-RH: hang on I'm new to winxp too, where is the device manager? I don't see it in my control panels Myke`: (right click, My Comp, properties, etc..) jjcha-RH: got it on sec Myke`: Dev Mgr is under the Hardware tab *** al`Thor is now known as alThrZZzz jjcha-RH: ok I'm in video codec properties Myke`: ok, so now you see what you have installed jjcha-RH: hmm we don't have a whole lot jjcha-RH: no divx Myke`: www.divx.com and install the latest now jjcha-RH: sonydv, sonymjpg, tsbyuv jjcha-RH: ok nanq1: oh well too bad, send me replays... nanq1: :> Myke`: once it's installed, it's easy to save your raw avi as divx enconded Myke`: encoded even SumOut: man this jalaad *bitch bitch bitch* INH: hey sum SumOut: talk abt repeating what I said nanq1: btw summeres, great sig :> INH: howdy do SumOut: thanks sal~ SumOut: I luv it! DevilRei tackles Summers nanq1: indeed jjcha-RH: ok its installing divx5 SumOut: howdy do~ Myke`: chaj, ok SumOut: Rei: aieee DevilRei tacks on an extra P! SumOut aims kick at usagi! jjcha-RH: cool now it shows up on my codecs INH: im scared of that tilde thing you got going (|)_o DevilRei: NOOOOOO, don't hurt the bunny DevilRei: ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *** nanq1 is now known as mike-c SumOut: haha! SumOut: get used to it INH INH: ah! DevilRei tildes INH to death INH: haha INH: i am mike-c: while its installing send nandato the replayes SumOut: it's my signature style~ DevilRei: I was tildeing long before Summa-kun INH: i think its kinda kool *** mike-c is now known as nandato INH: oh i know INH: haha INH: ~ INH: sorry :( SumOut: Rei: I'm not arguing..I onyl started last yr~ INH: dammit! INH: my local arcade still hasnt gotten vf4 INH: i need to have good competiton jjcha-RH: ok its capturing.. lemmie captur the whole thing first then I'll compress using virtualdub Myke`: chaj, ok INH: wtf INH: whos oj pimpson? nandato: HEY JASON SEND THE FUCKING REPLAYS DAMM IT!!! nandato: :> jjcha-RH: ah jjcha-RH: as for replays jjcha-RH: I'm not doing replays nandato: ___obligatory smily__ jjcha-RH: I'm doing video capture nandato: :> Myke`: that's the way nan, be assertive! Myke`: lol nandato: hehe jjcha-RH: replay memory card files just seems kind of slow jjcha-RH: I mean playback on the ps and all SumOut: muahahahaha! nandato: huh??? you dont have em on your pc?? DevilRei: meep jjcha-RH: we don't even customarily save em SumOut: meeeeeep~ jjcha-RH: by the way thees matches are long.. don't ask me why but due to the t ournament setup we ended up playing single elimination best out of 9 rounds SumOut: jason: it's all good..as long as the matches are good nandato: ah crap. i was hoping the ems thing would catch on jjcha-RH: ok there done with the capture itself Myke`: damn, i hate watching long matches jjcha-RH: its good solid play.. nothing that would make you like go oooh these guys are fucking good jjcha-RH: but its good basic play Myke`: chaj, yeah whatever, just hurry up :) SumOut: yah SumOut: HULLI UP PLZ! jjcha-RH: ok now it's exporting it into mpg form.. jjcha-RH: hmm looks like it'll take it a few minutes.. jjcha-RH: heh I'm hyped Myke`: usually does, yeah nandato: damm, no replays jjcha-RH: sorry sal, I thought the idea of saving and sharing replays would be cool too jjcha-RH: but bottom line is it takes time, while with video capture you can just let the camcorder/card juts record *** jjcha-RH is now known as jjcha-mee nandato: its great for modem users jjcha-mee: so once I save this as mpg and open it up in virtualdub, any advice on how to save it? Myke`: chaj yeah Myke`: simple process Myke`: firstly you Open the move in vdub Myke`: move=movie jjcha-mee: Myke`: then from the video menu, select compression... Myke`: and select divx5 jjcha-mee: nodnod Myke`: do these movies have sound? jjcha-mee: yep Myke`: select divx for compression in the sound menu, in the same way jjcha-mee: nodnod Myke`: actually i think you have the choice of bitrates, frequency, etc with the sound compression Myke`: if so, choose whatever matches the source jjcha-mee: looks like the saving to mpg is about 50% done.. wow it takes a while Myke`: and you can find that out by looking at the properties of the movie file (say, under explorer) jjcha-mee: nod.. jjcha-mee: right Myke`: then it's just save as... Myke`: wait a few mins, et voila jjcha-mee: so is this always such a time consuming process? say a 4 minute match seems to take 4 minutes to "Capture it" then more time to save sa mpg, the more time to compress? nandato: see, replays are better heheh Myke`: chaj, yep jjcha-mee: hmm jjcha-mee: good to know Myke`: video compression in an intensive task jjcha-mee: what speeds it along? Myke`: beefier cpu jjcha-mee: I mean I'm running a fairly mediocre machine... jjcha-mee: p4 1.7gigs Myke`: more ram jjcha-mee: 512 megs of ram but not that gnarely fast shit Myke`: that's about it jjcha-mee: should I spend the extra bux for total top of the line? Myke`: i wouldn't bother jjcha-mee: still slow even w/ that eh? Myke`: unless you were doing this full time or something Myke`: yeah jjcha-mee: I see.. so it's kind of like taking the occasional saturday to convert over some vf tourny or home movies Myke`: well, you can't "capture it" faster than you can watch it Myke`: so you can't save time there jjcha-mee: really? this software esems to do batch dubbing which seems to go fast Myke`: so it's only final exporting/encoding that is time consuming.. jjcha-mee: but yah that last bit.. Myke`: chaj, yeah jjcha-mee: cool jjcha-mee: god my dad was right jjcha-mee: he bought me the camera for a bday gift saying, you may not think you'll ever use it but once you do it'll consume you jjcha-mee: so next step after converting is figuring out how to ues the dvd rw on this thing jjcha-mee: or the best way to get these movies up to the net.. figure since I'm on dsl at home I should burn a cd or dvd and upload it at owrk Myke`: do you have server space somewhere? Myke`: or just let feixaq host them jjcha-mee: prolly best way is just to give chris a cdr jjcha-mee: nod jjcha-mee: incidentally Myke`: yeah jjcha-mee: we all like usagi-chan on the vfdc logo Myke`: thanks Myke`: who's we? nandato: indeed jjcha-mee: chris me yusuke frank jjcha-mee: san francisco crew Myke`: alright jjcha-mee: heh *** jjcha-mee is now known as jjchaBAVF jjchaBAVF: lol Myke`: heh jjchaBAVF: so when are you returning to the states man? _BMW_: who here has brood war?? Myke`: that's a good question nandato: damm no quake today? Myke`: me and some friends are tossing up the idea of attending the next b6 (or whatever it's called) jjchaBAVF: ack jjchaBAVF: "pack syncho error" Myke`: uh oh dot com *** Signoff: siLE-Pai () nandato: man, thas one hell of a fight creed must of have jjchaBAVF: I try to open it up in virtualdub.. *** SumOut is now known as SumDina jjchaBAVF: wow 100 megs+ Myke`: yeah, not unusual Myke`: raw, uncompressed video is huge jjchaBAVF: hmm so I can run the mpg in media player but virtualdub doesn't seem to want to open it *** feixaqBAV (fx@adsl-63-201-80-141.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome jjchaBAVF: hey chris jjchaBAVF: I've got it working jjchaBAVF: somewhat Myke`: that's weird jjchaBAVF: not quite yet jjchaBAVF: but almost TURBOMEAT: Myke-"Evolution" *** ETP (mangina@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3577894.sympatico.ca) has joined channel #vfhome Myke`: turbo, wha? feixaqBAV: hi feixaqBAV: damn *** feixaqBAV is now known as feixaq jjchaBAVF: yah "mpeg import filter: pack synchronizatoin error" nandato: hey fei TURBOMEAT: this year's "B" tournament feixaq: stupid 9 char limit ETP: man, thats a great trial mode TURBOMEAT: is being called Evolution instead of B6 Myke`: turbo, oh, that's right.. Myke`: i remembered it sounded soft like that ;) TURBOMEAT: ha TURBOMEAT: hopefully, I'll be able to make it SumDina: myke nandato: fei: i finally got the ems thing working, i just needed to puch the adapter all the way in. duh ETP: all they need to include is a translation guide for abbreviations, and its just about a perfect newb guide SumDina: f+p+k for pai=sabaki right? nandato: put Myke`: summers, inashi SumDina: great! SumDina: I got it right the first time! SumDina: hehe Myke`: fantastic! *** homo (xzvcjhzxi@dsl-219.tbi.net) has joined channel #vfhome Myke`: but you asked sabaki? nandato: lol Myke`: it's not homo: IM THE # 1 VF SumDina: chekc my post lah! Myke`: make me! SumDina: DO IT BITCH! nandato: hey adam Myke`: try again! TURBOMEAT: I forget what insashi is *** Signoff: jjchaBAVF () TURBOMEAT: all this termanology is confusing *** jjchaBAVF (jjcha@adsl-64-171-2-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome SumDina kechu kick myke nandato: actually adam woulnt say that nandato: hmmm SumDina: that's not adam! nandato: i just realized nandato: homo is ~xzvcjhzxi@dsl-219.tbi.net * assraper nandato: homo on #vfhome nandato: well assraper kinda gave it away a bit SumDina: ? SumDina: oh homo: im # 1 vf fighter *** DeathBrin (asdsa@dsl-219.tbi.net) has joined channel #vfhome DeathBrin: :) nandato: death DeathBrin: would you like death homo: :) nandato: is that you on that pic? DeathBrin: on what pic nandato: duh DeathBrin: DU! DeathBrin: DUH!? nandato: sig DeathBrin: I have a sig DeathBrin: hold up DeathBrin: on virtuafighter.com ? nandato: profile dude nandato: duh! DeathBrin: if I have a profile DeathBrin: I don't know where nandato: nm DeathBrin: anyhow I never use MIRC rsw: why do you have a 200+ kb pic fit into a 50x50 pixel box? DeathBrin: but if you wanna see a pic of my sexy self, go to http://www.tbi.net/~jody/jody3.jpg DeathBrin: I don't know how to change my profile rsw: do you know how to scale down images? DeathBrin: yes DeathBrin: I didn't optimize it for loading time DeathBrin: I optimized it for quality rsw: a pic of that size for such a small box is nuts, and annoying for modem users DeathBrin: WHAT PIC DeathBrin: I am on MIRC DeathBrin: what are you talking about DeathBrin: I see text DeathBrin: that's ... all rsw: are you the same deathbringa as on vfdc? DeathBrin: yes I am nandato: oh jesus rsw: ok. i'm talking about your profile pic on vfdc DeathBrin: damn I asked that DeathBrin: and you said no DeathBrin: bitch nandato: here rsw: ...i never said "no" anywhere nandato: http://virtuafighter.com/versuscity/showprofile.php?Cat=&User=DeathBringa&Board= console&what=ubbthreads&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0 DeathBrin: I can change it to 50x50 right now DeathBrin: HOLD ON DeathBrin: I will even make it load fast ;) DeathBrin: for you modem users ;) rsw: i'm actually not sure of the specific size, lemme find it DeathBrin: ok tell me the specific size nandato: http://www.tbi.net/~jody/jody3.jpg nandato: same pic dude DeathBrin: then I will resize it just for you, sweet cheeks DeathBrin: I have a VF4 horror story... its called... my local arcade machine DeathBrin: the joystick... is horrible DeathBrin: SO HORRIBLE INFACT rsw: 65x75 DeathBrin: that my Shadowblade is actualyl BETTER DeathBrin: actually* DeathBrin: one 65x75 pic coming up nandato: damm 3 computers? DeathBrin: its not 65 x 75 DeathBrin: I don't think DeathBrin: that's like DeathBrin: a tiny box nandato: u have 3 pcs... nandato: nice rsw: says right so on the config page DeathBrin: anyways lemme just look at it and fix it homo: i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch DeathBrin: http://www.tbi.net/~jody/gamesetup.jpg rsw: go to "your home" *** homo has been kicked off channel #vfhome by nandato (nandato) feixaq: lol DeathBrin: hey you guys were right DeathBrin: it is 65x75 DeathBrin: =\ nandato: !creed DeathBrin: uh *** homo (xzvcjhzxi@dsl-219.tbi.net) has joined channel #vfhome homo: i nedd new patch i nedd new patch i nedd new patch homo: for wc3 jjchaBAVF: hmm nandato: go here: www.homo.com lots of wc3 *** homo has been kicked off channel #vfhome by nandato (nandato) *** GDzzz (chasm@bsace7001-181-88-096.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br) has joined channel #vfhome *** GDzzz has left channel #VFHOME rsw: homo, you're not even doing a good job of irritating us *** GDzzz (chasm@bsace7001-181-88-096.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br) has joined channel #vfhome *** homo (xzvcjhzxi@dsl-219.tbi.net) has joined channel #vfhome nandato: opps to late rsw: sal, he WANTS you to ban him *** GDzzz is now known as GreatD feixaq: not just yet =) Steffi_G: nandato you lied to me nandato: i guess so homo: lol homo: dont bann ma rsw: homo, you're not even doing a good job of irritating us homo: me* jjchaBAVF: so what size should I save this as homo: i just want wc3 patch jjchaBAVF: currently it's 720x480 Myke`: 320x240 is standard *** homo has been kicked off channel #vfhome by nandato (bad grammar) jjchaBAVF: and bitratE? feixaq: let me check daioh clips feixaq: one min rsw: isn't that hypocritical, sal? Myke`: you cna play with that rsw: muauahUAhuAHUHU!@2h1u nandato: yes indeed nandato: lol jjchaBAVF: and relaly basic question jjchaBAVF: mpeg 1 or 2? *** homo (xzvcjhzxi@dsl-219.tbi.net) has joined channel #vfhome DeathBrin: OK EVERYONE DeathBrin: I updated my pic feixaq: mpeg 2 DeathBrin: just for sweet cheeks INH: homo is a homo rsw: yaybo feixaq: 705 Kbits/sec DeathBrin: check it out.. if you are bored Myke`: depends on quality of source, and the tradeoff between space saved and final quality jjchaBAVF: ok jjchaBAVF: shit I've got it ta like 1100 kbits/sec jjchaBAVF: wepl its already started, letsee *** Signoff: TURBOMEAT (Go home and be a family man.) jjchaBAVF: though does tmpg use divx5? feixaq: yep. 320x240, mpeg2, 705 kbits/sec feixaq: then after that, convert to divx 5 nandato: damm all this for 8 seconds of footage.. jjchaBAVF: what software would do that? feixaq: should be able to squeeze it to 12mb or thereabouts feixaq: divx 5 pro jjchaBAVF: no this is a full 4 minute clip jjchaBAVF: ok nandato: oooh ok *** Mode change "+o GreatD" on #vfhome by DevilRei *** Signoff: homo () jjchaBAVF: akira and yusuke's final match jjchaBAVF: hehe jjchaBAVF: it looks really promising nandato: but but but... nandato: i wants replays nandato: :> nandato: its so easy Myke`: poor nan feixaq: the howard vs akira one is decent too nandato: :( feixaq: the rest aren't worth encoding jjchaBAVF: lol nandato: hmmm seems like feizaq has it jjchaBAVF: you sure you don't want people to watch yusuke beat you? feixaq: lol jjchaBAVF: =) nandato gonna bother fei DeathBrin: hey feixaq: 5-1 matches aren't much fun in any case nandato: yo fei! DeathBrin: anyone want me to make a video of me kicking my friend's ass in VF4 jjchaBAVF: I think your consolation match is pretty good nandato: send that shit homie feixaq: vs howard? feixaq: nah DeathBrin: I will give you a hint who this friend is, the fag that just kept asking for patches... I locked the other computer on him haha DeathBrin: he doesn't know the password DeathBrin: gotta love win2k jjchaBAVF: well it's not like any of these would make anyone think we're really good or anything jjchaBAVF: but they're decent matches feixaq: might as well keep just 1-2 matches per session feixaq: after all, we'll probably have more next saturday anyway jjchaBAVF: so who's still over there? jjchaBAVF: if anyone feixaq: all left Myke`: but seriously, where are the booze and bitchez at? nandato: fei do you happen to have a replay of this? nandato: death, u have 3 pc's right? feixaq: replay of what? Myke`: feixaq: do you know if genie is going to cap those sg matches? DeathBrin: hey DeathBrin: time to kick Kage's ass DeathBrin: brb DeathBrin: I don't make allowances for old men DeathBrin: my friend is a knucklehead DeathBrin: I dunno why I am so great nandato: that sounds really gay DeathBrin: I know DeathBrin: Lion is gay but hey DeathBrin: he's a french badass Myke`: when people say "brb" they usually stop typing for a while DeathBrin: brb! nandato: knuckle.."head" DevilRei: LION IS NOT GAY DevilRei: LION IS A SEXY BITCH! Myke`: time to get changed nandato: fei: replays of SF ppl playing DevilRei: And Dodee is not here to contest me, hahaha! feixaq: nan: we only taped them, didn't save them on ps2 Steffi_G: Lion is a sexy gay bitch ? nandato: damm thas wack man nandato: always save the "that was a coll match" Myke` shouts nan a lap dance to cheer him up feixaq: takes too much time, we were running behind schedule nandato: oh well nandato: mike ; that didnt make sence.. Myke`: yes it does Myke`: trust me nandato: shouts a lap dance? nandato: shouts? Myke`: shouts, as in, pays for nandato: ohh alright Myke`: you never shouted anyone before, tightass? :) *** jidanafk is now known as jidan nandato: lol *** Signoff: DeathBrin () nandato puts hands in pocket after the lap dance ... Myke`: lol nandato: you'll done that trick b4 nandato: lol Myke`: .... .... . .. nandato twiches jjchaBAVF: hmm jjchaBAVF: ok I've got it down to 40 megs.. jjchaBAVF: though I don't know if that's using this divx stuff or not jjchaBAVF: god I'm really a lawyer arent I? heh, so ignorant rsw: i don't think creed will be back, sal nandato: damm feixaq: um well, i think you're better than most. hell, some of the old bankers/attorneys have to get their assistants to *print* out their email Myke`: feixaq i'm sure it's only because they can ;) Myke`: i mean, i would feixaq: lol i dunno jjchaBAVF: actually feixaq: really jjchaBAVF: I am starting to depend on my secretary more heh feixaq: not to print out your email i hope Myke`: while getting my knob polished, why not? nandato: LOL!!! *** jidan is now known as jidanadfk nandato: same thing i was thinking *** jidanadfk is now known as jidanafk nandato: knob = cock right? Myke`: nan :) nandato: hehe Myke`: lol Myke`: well, the head to be specific nandato: hahah yeah feixaq: lol Myke`: but i guess if you have a little one, then knob would be an accurate description feixaq: oookay nandato: lol nandato: g1 Myke`: well, time for vf, later all *** Signoff: Myke` (Client Exiting) nandato: anyone knows what a "164 memory size erro" ? Steffi_G: Well as far as I know knob is used to describe a small dick in England *** Signoff: HotSauce (Idle time limit exceeded) rsw: righty-o, captain delay *** Signoff: silentwar (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) DevilRei: meep. DevilRei: sleep. feixaq: =) Steffi_G: Byeeeeeeeeeee Zero dodee: wah1 dodee: it's late! Steffi_G: Sleep well *** DevilRei has left channel #vfhome Steffi_G: Heh yeah, it IS kinda late 10.20am I should sleep as well *** gilley is now known as Three-11 *** Signoff: Three-11 (www.fighters.net) *** Signoff: INH (There ya go. Now you dont have to ban me.) nandato: oh well, no quake, im gone *** nandato has left channel #vfhome *** Signoff: Steffi_G () *** silentwar (silentwar@co-colspgs-u2-c6b-252.clspco.adelphia.net) has joined channel #vfhome *** Signoff: misery011 (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) Log file closed at: 3/31/02 3:28:04 AM