CreeD: the toy yoda chick won her lawsuit, yay kil20: EggChen:when is ST Louis gonna have that vf4 tourney? FatCat-: toyota has hot japanese models CPot-Pai: creed what lawsuit? INH: chicken pot pai! kil20: inh=ghey j/k INH: bah DevilRei: BRB *** DevilRei has left channel #vfhome INH: OK nandato: http://www.game-revolution.com/download/pc/strategy/worms_armageddon.htm nandato: i woonder where can i get that game...fo free nandato: kazza? CreeD: pai: a hooter's waitress took place in a contest, where she was promised she would win a "Toyota" if she did her job well CreeD: she ended up winning a 'toy yoda' CreeD: she wasn't amused. nandato: LOL CreeD: so she sued and settled and now can pick out any toyota she wants at a dealership. nandato: whoa INH: that law suit is hella old isnt it? CreeD: the wheels of justice move slowly CreeD: it wasn't settled until the past week. INH: but its been going on for like milleniums dodee: yes, milleniums dodee: *cough* [jhk]: i heard about that [jhk]: i can't believe she's being awarded for her own stupidity INH: i heard about that a LONG time ago [jhk]: i mean rewarded CreeD: what?! CreeD: jhk, that's bitchy even for you. CreeD: when you're promised 10-20-40,000 dollars worth of goods dodee: oh man CreeD: you're gonna bust ASS to have a reasonable chance of winning. CreeD: to then be presented with 2 dollars of plastic for an inane amount of work... nandato: http://lyrics.mania.wox.org/Lyrics/1471/Big%20Daddy%20Kane/Ain%27t%20No%20Half- Steppin%27 CreeD: it's clear, the employers deceived the crew to eke more work out of them. nandato: good shit dodee: was it written down anywhere that it was a "toyota" CreeD: heh I got it sal nandato: nice eh [jhk]: i don't think it was written down [jhk]: i think it was a verbal announcement *** CPot-Pai is now known as Bored-Pai [jhk]: but if she won that trial then, perhaps it was written down CreeD: dodeE: probably not given the nature of the pun, but if my boss says it, I'd generally take it as correct. Coming from a boss, who's representing a company, you have to assume they aren't lying or playing a trick on you. CreeD: which apparently the court agrees. dodee: "a toyota" could be a lawn mower INH: it damn well could CreeD: sure, but a "toyota" can't be a "toy yoda" jjcha-mee: interesting dodee: sounds like the inherent flaw of the jury system INH: im pretty sure toyota makes washers too jjcha-mee: steve isn't that an argument that spurs the question "it depends on what is is" Fishie: Yoda rules jjcha-mee: ? dodee: I'd love to see a record of "little guy versus mean old company" suits which the little guy won dodee: it must be like... 90% in favor of the little guy dodee: at least initially before appeals and stuff Fishie: rootin for the underdog CreeD: eh, fuck that noise. You use stupid semantical tricks to get exceptional performance out of an employee, and then fail to reward it dodee: dumb wench got what she deserved. yeah, the HOOTERS manager is bound to be an upstanding "believe what he says, cause he's that good a guy" person CreeD: I can't see how anyone can stick up for that. dodee: she was probably the ONLY one that believed it [jhk]: and no one told her what she was really working hard for dodee: a CAR for waiting tables well? dodee: wtf [jhk]: maybe it was some practical joke gone wrong dodee: who'd be slow enough to work THAT hard for a verbal promise of anything? [jhk]: hehe CreeD: not having healthy skepticism doesn't mean she doesn't deserve better than a laugh at her expense and 2 dollars of plastic, jesus christ. *** DevilRei (trilluser@207-191-203-199.cpe.ats.mcleodusa.net) has joined channel #vfhome dodee: she shoudla gotten something, but not ANY car she wanted jjcha-mee: actually dodee: that's tupid dodee: that prolly DOUBLED her income this year jjcha-mee: please dodee: just for doing well waiting tables... makes no sense jjcha-mee: its probability jjcha-mee: say the toyota is worth 25,000 jjcha-mee: there was one toyota raffled off CreeD: shit, bonuses at my previous job nearly doubled my income. This is a big national chain dude, they can afford a 30K or 50K or whatever contest. jjcha-mee: each of the top waitresses in every resturant got one shot dodee: it wasn't a national contest, was it? jjcha-mee: suppose there are 50 restaurants jjcha-mee: hmm jjcha-mee: "each hooters restaurant in the area" dodee: I thought it was ONE hooters restaurant or a few or something CreeD: no but that doesn't matter, individual restaurants and franchises can reap the benefits of the national chain's promotion schemes. jjcha-mee: its more than one jjcha-mee: there was a drawing jjcha-mee: even if there were only 10 jjcha-mee: 25k car jjcha-mee: suddenly turns into a 2,500 probability dodee: I think she deserved something, but not a frigging car jjcha-mee: please, best waitress in a resturant getting a 2.5k expected value bonus dodee: that's stupid jjcha-mee: doesn't seem so absurd to me jjcha-mee: she wasnt guaranteed the car you idiot jjcha-mee: i realize it doesn't make sense to you jjcha-mee: but it was a chance at a car dodee: it wasn't a CHANCE at a CAR dodee: it was a chance at a "toyota" Fishie: I should be goin Fishie: Its 7am jjcha-mee: oh god Fishie: Someone op zero please dodee: and ditch the "you idiot" shit, lawyer boy dodee: use that in court, do ya? *** Mode change "+o DevilRei" on #vfhome by CreeD jjcha-mee: sometimes your stupidity really amazes me rsw: i'm on cha's and creed's side on this one. you two are being ornery, deluded, cruel twats. Fishie: THanks creed jjcha-mee: it really does dodee: kiss it, jason jjcha-mee: usually i just keep quiet and just let you say whatever jjcha-mee: but man dodee: she was NEVER promised a toyota automobile dodee: they sould give her a fucking junker rust bucket dodee: it was all interpretation CreeD: sure dodee. dodee: I agree that a "toy yoda" is stupid dodee: and she should get something to make up for the misunderstanding CreeD: next guy who's promised a million dollar bonus won't have cause to complaint when he gets a million doll hairs Fishie: Latah CreeD: or monopoly money. dodee: but *any* toyata she wants? CreeD: that's lawsuits for you. dodee: promises mean jack without paper jjcha-mee: "He allegedly told them that although he couldn't specify what type of car she would receive, the winner would be responsible for taxing the vehicle. " dodee: 'allegedly told' jjcha-mee: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1463000/1463528.stm jjcha-mee: sure jjcha-mee: and the jury may have believed that in making their decision dodee: practical joke gone wrong, that's all it was dodee: got blown WAY out of proportion CreeD: doesn't matter that she was stupid for buying it dude, it's still deceptive. You don't trick people into working harder, you reward them for it. Fishie: Joke leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suing. dodee: I agree it was deceptive jjcha-mee: i just wonder what it is about this story that makes you so unsympathetic to the waitress that you want to turn this on the interpretation of the word toyota dodee: I'm not saying the guy was RIGHT *** Fishie has been kicked off channel #vfhome by DevilRei (AIEEEEEE) rsw: it's gross misuse of authority dodee: I'm saying neither was right CreeD: it's not a practical joke tho, you can't say "this is an official contest for this store, so do your best to win" and call that a 'practical joke' rsw: you don't fucking fuck around with your employees, come ON dodee: she shoulda known better, and the manager shoulda known better than to trick them jjcha-mee: so she loses? despite qualifying as the best waitress? CreeD: if one guy does it to another outside of work, maybe it's a mean prank. dodee: how do you quantify soething like that, anyway? jjcha-mee: quantify something like what? CreeD: tips is an easy one. jjcha-mee: an oral promise? CreeD: positive comment cards jjcha-mee: no jjcha-mee: apparently it was for selling the most beer [jhk]: ok, i'm not taking any of this seriously from someone that was upset that the stores were closed on sept.11 Bored-Pai: hehe jjcha-mee: jinhei rsw: jhk please. *** Bored-Pai is now known as Home-Pai rsw: i was just as, if not even more pissed off nandato: LOL jjcha-mee: i realize you watched it on tv jjcha-mee: i didn't jjcha-mee: i listened to it on the radio jjcha-mee: i know i was not affected by it nearly to the degree anyone else was jjcha-mee: and i'm sorry that i was so insensitive nandato: i dunno but dodde's case makes sence nandato: my 2 cents... nandato: :> jjcha-mee: that's it dodee: the first motherfucker to say shit about the severity of 911 is gonna get assraped. CreeD: sal: what's his case? that 'she shoulda known better because a car is too much reward for working hard as a waitress'? CreeD: laff, we should probably drop the 911, that was a good effort at distraction from the topic tho jjcha-mee: i didn't even know the biuldings were gone until 6pm thta night jjcha-mee: they never said on the radio that the buildings were gone gone rsw: 6th dan distraction technique, jason CreeD: that was really fist king-level distraction technique. jjcha-mee: i thought they were just hit rsw: shouldn't have fallen for it! jjcha-mee: geez, sorry i wasn't glued to my tv rsw: it's ok. CreeD: it was very strong, he's still struggling out of the stagger. dodee: who in their right minds thinks they're gonna get a car for selling beer? nandato: LOL rsw: now, get back to beating your logic-penis with them in their faces. jjcha-mee: steve Home-Pai: haha dodee: that smells funny to anyone jjcha-mee: its not a car Home-Pai baps rich on da head jjcha-mee: its a chance at a car nandato: hahah logic penis jjcha-mee: you have to discount the value of the car CreeD: dodee: shit, when a company can afford a ton of money for contests, and when it's a drawing-thing anyway, why not. jjcha-mee: say it was a 30k car, 6 stores jjcha-mee: then th true prize is only worth 5k [jhk]: i'm not saying that a waitress shouldn't get a car for selling the most beers dodee: how is that? dodee: that's twisted logic *** Signoff: INH (SLEEP!) jjcha-mee: oh god dodee: one person still gets the whole 30k car jjcha-mee: yes dodee: ok, fine, put it your way jjcha-mee: but all the othe rpeople who were the best selling at their restaurants get nothing dodee: "I sell the most beer, I get 5k" wtf jjcha-mee: so the expected value jjcha-mee: is 5k dodee: that's still messed up Home-Pai: whenever deception is involved, it's not . . . right . . . and there's some degree of justice . . . dodee: 5k BONUS as a waitress at hooters for selling beer CreeD: sure steve, but does the company care that one person gets the 30K? no, they care that a 5000 dollar 'investment' across five stores yielded X,XXX more dollars in beer sales Home-Pai: dodee, you admit deception was involved but is it the reward that you don't agree with? dodee: there wasn't a car! [jhk]: hehehehe CreeD: dodee: yes, but we're explaining how it's concievable dodee: there never was a "waitress can win a real car" promotion dodee: it was ALL speculation [jhk]: perhaps this has gotten out of hand CreeD: it didn't happen, they weren't that generous, but it's POSSIBLE. dodee: hooters didn't say "come to hooters, help a girl win a car!" dodee: fuck possible, what really HAPPENED [jhk]: lol jjcha-mee: steve CreeD: dodee: yes yes yes, you're sticking up hard for the fact that she was tricked. We know she should have demanded it on paper. jjcha-mee: 12 people were chosen to decide what happened jjcha-mee: i like how you say they're wrong jjcha-mee: you believe they're always worng jjcha-mee: always going for the poor waitress sucker jjcha-mee: is that what it is? dodee: I like how I say they're wrong too dodee: yes dodee: it's underdog syndrome ETP: id stick up for a hooters waitress too jjcha-mee: so how should the system work? dodee: same thing happened with mcdonalds until the appeals *** lilbich (sos@1Cust196.tnt1.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net) has joined channel #vfhome Home-Pai: dodee, the hot coffee? dodee: just because it's less extreme than millions for hot coffee doesn't make it any less stupid jjcha-mee: she had 3rd degree burns steve jjcha-mee: the mcdonalds case dodee: oh jesus dodee: now SHE was right, too? CreeD: I don't really care that she got a car for her efforts, I don't see selling beer as worth 30,000 dollars either. What I and I think jason have a problem with is that she got literally nothing but a nasty surprise for extra work. CreeD: she got laughed at, worse. rsw: have you ever read the details of that case dodee? jjcha-mee: over 200 reported incidents of burnings at that mcdonalds jjcha-mee: coffee kept well over the industry average dodee: matt: I *never* said that whatever hooters restaurants were RIGHT for what they did rsw: i never EVER thought i'd agree, but after reading in-depth stuff about it i find it wasn't as stupid as it sounded jjcha-mee: there's lots to criticize dodee: I'm saying the decision is absurd jjcha-mee: like one person getting all the punitive damages dodee: way overboard for what really took place rsw: not by far, even jjcha-mee: but at least know what happened Home-Pai: rsw, same here nandato: wheres the damm story so we can read it! [jhk]: i think i read the article off of a link on rotten.com dodee: everyone on the face of the planet knows that fast food coffee is impossibly hot jjcha-mee: well jjcha-mee: i bet you didn't know it was so hot it caused third degree burns [jhk]: the articles all specified that it was 3rd degree burns jjcha-mee: impossibly my ass, normal coffee does not cause third degree burns [jhk]: or at least the one from the associated press Home-Pai: jhk =) nandato: -fast food restaurants- *** Del_Taco (Del_Taco@AC86A6BE.ipt.aol.com) has joined channel #vfhome nandato: -not normal coffy- :P ETP: as long as justice is being assigned in a half assed, arbitrary manner, i want a cut. /me pushes 200 people in front of volvos, then lets one run over my foot and collects 30 million. CreeD: I think we're missing a pretty big point dodee, re: retarded jurors CreeD: there were no jurors CreeD: it was settled. CreeD: hooters was WILLING to give her that much. dodee: companies frequently take it up the ass to shut people up ETP: god bless hooters CreeD: they also frequently use far superior lawyer power to shut them up. nandato: quake CreeD: either the lawyers woulda cost more than 30 grand, or else the lawsuit seemed too open and shut dodee: I applaud hooters for being WAY bigger about it than they needed to, all I'm saying is they were WAY bigger about it than they needed to jjcha-mee: what is it steve that makes you feel like this DevilRei: o)o jjcha-mee: are you just anti-tort in general? dodee: here comes the psychoanalysis nandato: lol dodee: why dont you tell ME what it is, since you obviously know everything CreeD: dodee: eh, 30,000 is nothing. If a company does something wrong, they can give a lot of money to one individual, but that isn't being big if the pile of money is .000126 percent of their profits. CreeD: not that I'm rooting for her to win even more, but still jjcha-mee: pshaw psychoanalysis? jjcha-mee: just wondering why you're so unsympathetic dodee: girl doesn't deserve a car, I dont see how that could be seen by anyone jjcha-mee: what is it that makes your perspective so CreeD: it's not big, it's probably just a money saving tactic... better the sequoia than a dozen lawyers at 500 an hour. jjcha-mee: its not just 1 girl steve jjcha-mee: i know its hard for you to comprehend that nandato: quake dodee: exploiting the system for personal gain dodee: that's what it is jjcha-mee: it was a drawing steve CreeD: she didn't have a right to be mad as hell? nandato: quake dodee: girls lawyer knew that a) he'd get exposure and b) they'd settle because of the fees Home-Pai: potentially any of the chickies would have been misled CreeD: and what is her other recompense for being mad as hell and wanting to do something about it? CreeD: a lawsuit is her ONLY way of making up for being screwed. rsw: i'll play it if i can use rockets... dodee: she had a right to be mad, I'm not even attempting to take that away from her CreeD: the fact that she made out like a bandit isn't a tribute to her greed, just her lawyer's skill (or her lawyer's greed) *** Signoff: lilbich () dodee: it is her greed CreeD: how so? nandato: anyne can use rockets dodee: she had the option of doing something fair for everyone CreeD: sal: ok let's go. nandato: cool dodee: someone stealing a car then syaing "you can have this car" and you taking it, knowing it's stolen is still wrong rsw: you know what we need to find for you, sal? rsw: an aimbot. ghostDL: bummer jjcha-mee: you are ignoring the fact that there were other girls who participated in this raffle, and won nothing rsw: then we can do the Special with rockets all the time nandato: hmm not a bad idea! nandato: lol jjcha-mee: hmm dodee: jason: shit, let's give THEM all cars too! nandato: yah! jjcha-mee: no jjcha-mee: they get nothing jjcha-mee: ONE person gets a car dodee: they sold lots of beer after all! rsw: creed. find an aimbot. CreeD: oh, so she's supposed to be big about? She's gonna sue them, but only for 'a reasonable award like 200 bucks'? After feeling like a stupid piece of crap and getting nothing? nandato: i bet its hard to find an aimbot jjcha-mee: that's probability dodee: and they were tricked by mean ol' hooters, too! rsw: sal: it is, i'll look, and creed will help. dodee: cars for everyone! ETP: rsw: whats an aimbot? CreeD: if she can win more than a tiny bit, she should do so. jjcha-mee: its the same as if they ALL sued and got a PORTION of that one car nandato: guys shit up about that stupid case!! rsw: i've looked before, briefly dodee: who's toyota owned by? let's give them ANY car made by whoever owns toyota! CreeD: ok anyway, steve's getting desperate, let's leave jason to mop up. [jhk]: calm down dodee CreeD: I'll make the server. jjcha-mee: no, sal's right dodee: I'm sickened be the whole thing jjcha-mee: enough's enough rsw: creed read up rsw: aimbot for sal, the Special with rockets! CreeD: rsw: oh, shit :) CreeD: that sounds fun CreeD: now which aimbot is good? nandato: hehe yah rsw: i have no idea nandato: thas the question CreeD: let's see what planetquake says rsw: i've looked for them before, briefly rsw: but came up with nothing nandato: its proly not there CreeD: sure it will be :) nandato: i bet aimbots are looked as bad things nandato: heheh and they are CreeD: yes dodee: snarl. grumble. growl. rsw: chortle. snigger. giggle. CreeD: cough. hack. spew *** Home-Pai is now known as TiredPai rsw: k, that was fun - time to put the /ignore on on this computer CreeD: really any good bot on max difficulty might be good CreeD: they can all cheat with the aim nandato: i wonder if theres a way to detect if using aimbots TiredPai gives dodee a kOoKiE rsw: usually just by the absurd aim, sal. rsw: it's really not that hard CreeD: sal :there is on the server side also dodee: is that a real cookie, by the dictionary definition of a baked confection, jenny? nandato: hmm so cpu cant detect on its own ic dodee: I just wanna be clear before I accept the offer dodee: or I'll sue you later, for a real cookie nandato: LOL dode TiredPai: dodee, hahaha! [jhk]: LOL jjcha-mee: you'd lose steve dodee: so, fax your description and photo of said cookie to my lawer, and I'll be back to you jjcha-mee: its not a contract jjcha-mee: there's no consideration *** Signoff: kofman (Read error 54: Connection reset by peer) dodee: we'll draw up some documents, and get it sorted out DevilRei: GIVE IT UP ALREADY jjcha-mee: its not a legally binding contract even if yo uhad documents TiredPai: dodee, i'll give u an edible kOoKiE if u visit cali 'n make U accept kOokiEs if I ever create another web site= ) dodee: i was getting to that, jason! jjcha-mee: not because of the words steve jjcha-mee: because there's no consideratoin CreeD: doh, it's hard jjcha-mee: i realiez you don't know what consideration is jjcha-mee: it is a legal term CreeD: finding an aimbot. nandato: told ya ETP: what is an Aimbot??? jjcha-mee: but basically a simple promise by one party to do something for another is different from an agreement where both sides do something dodee: oh sorry mr. fancy lawyer sir, I'll try to be less ignorant of your jargon in the future, sir jjcha-mee: jen promised you a cookie for nothing in return nandato: lol exacly what it emplyes *** Signoff: superboog (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) nandato: aim bot nandato: its a bot that aims CreeD: yay nandato: LOL CreeD: here it is jjcha-mee: the waitress was promised a chance at a car for selling the most beer CreeD: terminator aimbot nandato: hahaha ETP: what? dodee: jason, I just got a REALLY good idea. how about you NOT talk to me? [jhk]: she was promised a chance at a "toyota" ETP: so its just a quake opponent that knows how to aim at you? rsw: etp: it's a client side program that aims for you [jhk]: she ASSUMED it was a car ETP: shouldnt they all be equipped to do that? jjcha-mee: sorry steve for giving you some free legal education ETP: rsw: for quake? ETP: isnt that cheating? dodee: hey, kinda like yours! rsw: yes, but "aimbot" is a general term [jhk]: there was no specification that it was a car rsw: i'm sure there are aimbots for other games ETP: never playing quake again TiredPai: chance at million dollar contest . .. if there was no million dollars would U be mad? [jhk]: but whatever, she got what she wanted ^_^ *** lilbich (sos@1Cust196.tnt1.colorado-springs.co.da.uu.net) has joined channel #vfhome dodee: couldn't she have just milked some pathetic old guy for a car like a self respecting hooters waitress? TiredPai: jhk =) CreeD: ok got it CreeD: here sal nandato: cool! TiredPai: jhk, spiderman? rsw: send that sucka over here, too rsw: or url [jhk]: nah, b/c i didn't lose anything for the chance nandato: lol what for!!!? CreeD: rich: seems to be a .exe nandato: hahah ETP: i mean, if you people are getting scripts to aim for you, and scripts to make it so you never drop rockets, then that sucks hard, and i see no point in playing quake CreeD: I dunno if you can use it rsw: ah crap CreeD: well I'm sure you can't, darn [jhk]: i haven't seen spiderman yet rsw: etp...... .. . . *** Signoff: lilbich () rsw: etp, we just got this for sal for him to make up his 400 ping TiredPai: wakw waka waka TiredPai: baka [jhk]: now, if i put a dollar into that chance--i'd be pissed about my dollar being lost rsw: so we can all use rockets against him when there's just the three of us nandato: bot.exeprogram for a PC under Windows 95 nandato: bot program for Linux (kernel 2.0) nandato: bot.sunprogram for SUN O/S (and SOLARIS) nandato: bot.aixprogram for IBM AIX 3.2 [jhk]: cuz that would mean some chump took the money and ran nandato: bot.txt CreeD: ack sal CreeD: don't spam ETP: still, knowing that crap is out thier to abuse bugs me nandato: opps!! CreeD: skip to the how to. CreeD: still not clear on whether it will work for QW CreeD: and if so how it works rsw: etp: you do see them on the shittier servers, but 90% are fine ETP: and how will i know some of you people arent already cheating rsw: plus, people vote and kick people off servers CreeD: etp: we don't play well enough to be cheating. *** kofman (asdf@adsl-63-202-174-64.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome nandato: whoa its actually good to use this if: Of course, you'll have to be pretty bad, pretty low in morale or pretty nandato: lagged, before you use that kind of cheat. nandato: " ETP: from my perspective you play plenty good rsw: jkGfjkgjh etp, this is just for sal against the two of us nandato: read what i pasted ETP rsw: you won't see us use it any other time (RIIIIGGHT, sal?) rsw: and I can't even use it rsw: being on a mac nandato: right nandato: you'll have to be pretty bad, pretty low in morale or pretty nandato: lagged, before you use that kind of cheat. *** BukSPDRMN (Campbell_t@adsl-63-206-117-218.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome nandato: again nandato: im pretty laaged TiredPai: hey campbell TiredPai: buk, how was spiderman? *** BukSPDRMN is now known as Buktooth8 CreeD: sheit, I can't even figure out how to use the damn thing. nandato: me too nandato: hahah rsw: don't you need to exec from within the client? CreeD: trying nandato: If you manage a server, and don't want bots on this server, please have nandato: your server print the sentence "No bots please" when a client connects. CreeD: fuuuck CreeD: I told it to connect to me CreeD: and it says invalid IP address. CreeD: sal, you try it CreeD: run bot.exe nandato: ok CreeD: and then in the black'n'white dos box type connect 142.167.16.203 nandato: btw, where do i put that file CreeD: just in C:\quake nandato: k rsw: http://www.gamescenter.de/uqc/download.htm *** Signoff: ironbed (Ping timeout: 344 seconds) nandato: whats there? ETP: The Ultimative Quake Cheating Page nandato: sending connect request CreeD: fucking invalid IP address CreeD: retards. nandato: what port btw? CreeD: I dunno, still working on making it recognize CreeD: I tried connect localhost and it appeared to work CreeD: but zqwsv doesn't show it *** tellure (x@aog13368y21bj.bc.hsia.telus.net) has joined channel #vfhome nandato: "im really bored" CreeD: yeah ehe nandato: it sid that CreeD: yeah. nandato: whats that *** superboog (shl@adsl-64-170-152-51.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) has joined channel #vfhome CreeD: just a joke. TiredPai: telly what's the magic word? nandato: ic *** Signoff: dodee (Ping timeout: no data for 255 seconds) tellure: man is there really so much op-stealing going on these days? CreeD: don't be a pain in the ass about it tell :) tellure: TiredPai: uhhh..... lotus bean paste cookies! CreeD: we're trying to find sal a bot to be his teammate in The Sal CreeD: but can't figure it out tellure: I mean... mango pudding! TiredPai: telly *boink* *** Mode change "+o tellure" on #vfhome by TiredPai CreeD: this bot appears to be built just for quake, not quakeworld CreeD: need to find a better one. nandato: ic CreeD: I give up, let's play [jhk]: i love mango pudding! CreeD: rockets only how about for rich and I CreeD: if we run out of ammo, we can't shoot until more comes up CreeD: on dm6 where there's only one rocket pak CreeD: no shaft or grenades. rsw: awww rsw: no shaft? CreeD: nurr tellure: rich loves giving the shaft *** dodee (sph3228@me-buxton3a-200.agstme.adelphia.net) has joined channel #vfhome rsw: yeah but i'm back at 200 CreeD: you're right rich, let's team up on sal with the shaft and rockets. CreeD: that'll be cool and fair, sure. jjcha-mee: ok bbl *** Mode change "+o dodee" on #vfhome by clo *** Signoff: jjcha-mee () CreeD: 200 lag will just destroy our chances. CreeD: mmm hmm kil20: lol CreeD: well anyway, it was an idea. ETP: i dont understand why two of the better players here, with pretty good connections feel they have to gang up on nandato CreeD: maybe sal can come up with something. CreeD: ETP: because I'm a pussy about free for all, can't stand playing FFA vs. rich and tellure. CreeD: and anyway it's hella fun CreeD: without it, we'd never fool around with fun guns like grenades or double barrel shotgun rsw: etP: normally we just gang up on him w/o rockets or shaft ETP: so, you do it just because playing against people better than you hurts your feelings? tellure: Creed: why's that? you and me were tied last couple times we played CreeD: etp: yes, now stop fucking with me. If sal had a problem with it, he could very well not play, couldn't he? ETP: im not sticking up for sal tellure: yeesh ppl are touchy tonight ETP: i just was curious CreeD: tell: barely. Because it grates to not be number one if my ping's the lowest. I feel like I'm missing something. nandato: lol nandato: i just look at it as a challenge CreeD: etp: sure, you're just curious about how much shit I'll take before I snap son! CreeD: come join us and I'll show you how fun it is. tellure: Creed: hrm, I dunno.. rich owns that stage.. I don't even expect to rival him on dm6 CreeD: you can be sal's teammate. rsw: MOMMMYY DADDDYYY STOP FIIIGHHTTIIINNNNNG ETP: hell no tellure: someone's a crankasaurus... :) nandato: LOL rich CreeD: tell: there's no such thing as stage ownership past a point, you sort of build up your stage-specific-tricks until you have them all, then it's just who's shooting better and thinking harder. rsw: let's play, you fucking whiny cocksacks ETP: you are vindictive, cranky, easily upset, and you pass out cheat scripts CreeD: I got that in a fortune cookie just last week, holy shit rsw: dude! tellure: Creed: I dunno.. I've tried, but I just can't do it on dm6.. it's like that map doesn't jibe with my style of play tellure: I always get rocked in the RA room, for example.. whereas Rich says he feels all warm and fuzzy in there rsw: etp, chill. we've never used aimbots before, we LOATHE playing against then anywhere; we only offered it to sal to make up for his fucking 400 ping CreeD: tell: laff, when I see "style" referring to performance in videogames, my scrub detector goes off :) "I can't beat rich's kage because of the 'style' he uses" ... "I win with ken in puzzle fighter because his 'style' really suits me" :( tellure: well, guess I'm a scrub then rsw: too manny bad vibrations in here duuuuudes CreeD: yup. tellure: scrub a dub dub! CreeD: just kidding tell tellure: heh, creed finally backs off the throttle kil20: lol ETP: rsw: yeah, i jsut sorta tacked that one on at the end to be a prick.. im tired today, and its making me a bastard, sorry tellure: rsw: you guys offered sal an aimbot eh? yee rsw: etp: like creed said, we have a weird dynamic with our little "clan" (if you can even call it that) here; irritability abounds when one wins too much CreeD: you're not a scrub, but you know that 'style' comments sound a lot like 'camping/throwing is cheap!' .. when at levels beyond either of us, it's not an issue. rsw: so the Special came up, which was 2 on sal, with no rockets or shaft CreeD: but rich wanted rockets CreeD: cuz he's sick of shotguns. kil20: hey Creed any good daioh vids lately? CreeD: so we offered sal a cheat. CreeD: kil: the second-to-most recent was pretty good, akira ownage as usual. CreeD: dled but haven't watched the latest. tellure: Creed: yeah but if you're not playing at those levels, then it's a fair comment IMO. If the only way to beat tick-throwing in SF2 was to master quarter-second uppercuts, for example, but no one in your play group could do it.. then it's totally acceptable to ask the guy not to do tick-throws, *IMO* :) rsw: plus being back on modem makes the special especially shitty and boring for me rsw: stfu, assholes. let's play nandato: The twitch clan! kil20: lol CreeD: tell: I disagree, guess we can't go further than that. Asking them to use less skill rather than demanding more skill of yourself is... wimpy Del_Taco: pussies... rsw: I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UP CreeD: it's their 'style' tell :) CreeD: ahaha tellure: nah, because they're not using skill tellure: camping / tick throwing is dead easy CreeD: we need a proper agreement rich: tellure: if they were doing some amazingly tricky move, then sure rsw: you just said you disagree, and leave it at that rsw: so do so, and set up the server. rsw: cock. CreeD: it's been up for an hour. *** CreeD is blo@ip142167016203.prexar.com (blah bling) *** CreeD is on channels @#vfhome *** CreeD is on IRC via server irc.secsup.uu.net (I built the house, I felt the pain...) *** CreeD has been idle for 17 seconds *** CreeD signed on at Saturday, May 11, 2002 12:19:26 AM nandato: im there CreeD: tell: it might take no skill, but not using it takes even less, if that follows logically to you. You're forcing them to play differently, but not any better or more 'skillfully' rsw: you coming, tell? Log file closed at: 5/11/02 1:55:18 AM