1:53 AM:     CreeeD: rad.

1:54 AM:     CreeeD: amma sleep I think.

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2:09 AM:     shinra: is it possible to have a 95% win ratio emperor jeff?

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2:10 AM:     shinra: is it possible to have a 95% win ratio emperor jeff?

2:10 AM:     shinra: i should be high king with 95%, it never went down

2:16 AM:      Myke`: shinra yes it's possible

2:16 AM:     shinra: that's strange

2:17 AM:      Myke`: why?

2:17 AM:     shinra: isnt it 77%?

2:17 AM:     shinra: or 78

2:17 AM:      Myke`: that's only entry criteria to the branch

2:18 AM:     shinra: but i always kept my jeff win $ pretty high all the time,

above 90%

2:18 AM:     shinra: %

2:19 AM:      Myke`: ic

2:19 AM:        ETP: once you get emperor through whatever means

2:19 AM:        ETP: you can then proceed to win a zillion times

2:20 AM:        ETP: and get back up to 95% or whatever

2:20 AM:        ETP: and presto

2:20 AM:        ETP: a 95% jeff emperor

2:20 AM:      Myke`: actually, there's another branch

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2:20 AM:      Myke`: which is not based on win %

2:20 AM:      Myke`: you need 10 straight wins for the higher branch

2:21 AM:      Myke`: or just +12 victory pts for the lower

2:21 AM:      Myke`: that's the final deciding branch in the ranking tree

2:21 AM:     shinra: oh ic

2:22 AM:     shinra:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1369929575

2:22 AM:     shinra: hahah look!

2:22 AM:      Myke`: lol

2:23 AM:        ETP: lol

2:23 AM:      dodee: why is there a foot in it?

2:23 AM:        ETP: i dont know

2:23 AM:        ETP: but i love it

2:24 AM:     shinra: he explains it

2:24 AM:        ETP: next there will be someone selling stuffed animals, with a

penis randomly thrown in teh picture

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2:24 AM:      dodee: ah. so he does.

2:24 AM:     shinra: haha etp

2:25 AM:     shinra: i wouldnt get that game, cd is probably in bad shape

2:25 AM:     shinra: cause of the foot

2:25 AM:     shinra: he's stepping on it!

2:25 AM:     shinra: wth

2:26 AM:        ETP: thats just a bonus to owning the game

2:26 AM:        ETP: you can lick it, and taste him

2:26 AM:     shinra: eww

2:26 AM:        ETP: :P~

2:26 AM:  grashoppa: ewwww

2:26 AM:        ETP: so i take it that isnt a big selling point?

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2:31 AM:      dodee: that's nasty.

2:32 AM:        ETP: is it? or are you just saying that so nobody will think

that its you bidding on it

2:36 AM:      Myke`: dodee busted!

2:36 AM:      dodee: shhh!

2:37 AM:        ETP: ha

2:38 AM:   DevilRei: meep.

2:39 AM:             ETP slaps DevilRei

2:39 AM:             DevilRei tech guards

2:40 AM:             DevilRei smacks ETP down

2:40 AM:        ETP: this is vfhome

2:40 AM:        ETP: there are no tech guards

2:40 AM:   DevilRei: says who/

2:40 AM:             ETP deletes DevilRei's vfdc account

2:40 AM:        ETP: me

2:41 AM:      Myke`: there's Just Defense 

2:41 AM:      Myke`: same as a tech guard

2:41 AM:      Myke`: in Garou and CvS2 :P

2:41 AM:             Fishie kicks ETP in the nuts, slaps him around a bit and

then neuters him

2:41 AM:        ETP: you cant do that fishie

2:41 AM:      dodee: http://www.ratemykitten.com/?kitten=7085

2:41 AM:     Fishie: Nobody here can slap Devil but me, you got that boy

2:41 AM:        ETP: dodee has already proven you are too weak to harm anyone

2:41 AM:      dodee: the 2nd comment from the bottom is great

2:41 AM:     Fishie: Too late, already did

2:42 AM:             ETP picks up fishie, and slaps devil with him

2:42 AM:      _BMW_: okok

2:43 AM:      _BMW_: /ctcp _BMW_ !movies

2:43 AM:     Fishie: Ooh physical contact with a woman of the opposite sex

2:43 AM:     Fishie: Was it as good for you as at was for me Devil ?

2:43 AM:      _BMW_: im going to get hella movies for you

2:43 AM:             ETP makes sure he slapped her with a part far away from his

groin

2:43 AM:      _BMW_: i promise!

2:43 AM:        ETP: no need to give fishie any free thrills

2:43 AM:     Fishie: ETP To late yet again boy

2:43 AM:        ETP: its never to late

2:43 AM:        ETP: but you certainly can be too lame

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2:51 AM:     Fishie: Iff annyone needs me the coming days

2:52 AM:     Fishie: Just tell em this niggah is gone VF4Evo ing

2:52 AM:        ETP: im sure that will come up alot

2:52 AM:  grashoppa: laterz

2:52 AM: *** Signoff: grashoppa ()

2:52 AM:      _BMW_: lol

2:52 AM:     Fishie: Shut up ETP, yer just jelous 

2:53 AM:      _BMW_: o shit

2:53 AM:        ETP: of?

2:53 AM:      _BMW_: /ctcp _BMW_ !music

2:53 AM:      _BMW_: 12 gigs

2:53 AM:      _BMW_: 02ÇÇ 01Server02 ÈÈ 01Trigger02Ç01/ctcp _BMW_ !music02È

01Used02Ç010 cps02È 01Next.Send02Ç01Open02È 01Stole02Ç018.5Mb in 3 files02È

01Record02Ç0124.7Kb/s by CreeeD02È 01Sends02Ç010/602È 01Queues02Ç010/1002È

01Entered02Ç0119 times02È 01Note02Ç01Type Trigger To Get On Fserve02È 02Ç

01è02×01‚Ÿ¨¤”š– 02È

2:54 AM:      _BMW_: hrmmm

2:54 AM:      _BMW_: 02ÇÇ 01My Puter Stats02 ÈÈ 01OS02Ç01Windows XP Home Edition

(5.1 - 2600)02È 01Up Time02Ç014hrs 4mins 3secs02È 01CPU02Ç011-AMD XP, 1601MHz,

256KB (23% Load)02È 01Memory02Ç01Usage: 230/512MB (44.92%)02È 01Video

Card02Ç01ATI All in Wonder Radeon 8500 DV02È 01Resolution02Ç011024 x 76802È

01Total Space Free02Ç0189.08Gb out of 112.4Gb02È 02Ç 01èׂ02Ÿ01¨¤”š– 02È

2:54 AM:      _BMW_: ha!

2:54 AM: *** Jedi_Fei (~pdelvall@user82.net338.fl.sprint-hsd.net) has joined

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2:54 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Hello Hello

2:55 AM:      dodee: man, etp just owned you .be

2:55 AM:      dodee: that one actually made me say "oh snap"

2:55 AM:  GodEater|: heh

2:55 AM:      dodee: "<ETP> im sure that will come up alot" yikes!

2:55 AM:   Jedi_Fei: What did i miss

2:56 AM:      dodee: fei:

2:56 AM:      dodee: <Fishie> Iff annyone needs me the coming days

2:56 AM:      dodee: <Fishie> Just tell em this niggah is gone VF4Evo ing

2:56 AM:      dodee: <ETP> im sure that will come up alot

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2:56 AM:   Jedi_Fei: lol

2:56 AM:     Fishie: Dodee too bad I dont care

2:56 AM:      dodee: I dont care if you care, that's classic slapdown

2:57 AM:        ETP: ouch

2:57 AM:        ETP: i know im hurting

2:57 AM:   Jedi_Fei: nothing says loving like getting dissed on vfhome

2:57 AM:     Fishie: And it must be a personal low for you to have to admit that

you need others to bring me down as you lack the necesary wit and skills to do

it yourself

2:57 AM:      dodee: that's the kinda thing that makes you go "ooooooohhhhh!"

2:57 AM:             ETP goes ooooooohhhhh!

2:57 AM:      dodee: hey, just cause I get my thrills beating you down doesn't

mean others cant, too

2:58 AM:      dodee: you're the omega wolf. I'm sorry, but it has to be someone

for the good of the pack.

2:58 AM:     Srider: i just got back from otakon at baltimore..

2:58 AM:     Fishie: Hehehe, man youre life must suck severely if you need this

to give youre ego a boost

2:58 AM:     Srider: i placed 3rd in the VF4 tourney

2:58 AM:     Srider: :)

2:58 AM:  GodEater|: Fishie, you're really scrapping the bottom

2:58 AM:      dodee: it's not about ego, it's about boredom and easy targets

2:58 AM:     SummAh: GOD

2:58 AM:        ETP: and about ego

2:58 AM:  GodEater|: summ

2:59 AM:     SummAh: I AM BACK FROM SCHOOL!

2:59 AM:        ETP: especially sweet sweet ego

2:59 AM:     SummAh: long time no see god

2:59 AM:  GodEater|: been a bit

2:59 AM:             ETP blows out Fishies candle, and finds that his really

does glow brighter

2:59 AM:     Fishie: Yeah im such an easy target that you cant even get to me

yourself

2:59 AM:        ETP: :D

2:59 AM:      dodee: nah, if it was about ego, I'd pick on someone that was

actually cool or something

2:59 AM:     Fishie: You need ETP and then some

2:59 AM:      dodee: not the whipping boy over here

2:59 AM:     SummAh: here we go here we go here we go ^__^

2:59 AM:     SummAh: so god...been buzy?

2:59 AM:  GodEater|: I was just about to head but I'm sticking it out to see

when Dodee unleases his awesomeness

3:00 AM:  GodEater|: SummAh: yah.

3:00 AM:        ETP: he doesnt need me, i invited myself

3:00 AM:     Fishie: That would be a first

3:00 AM:        ETP: because it looked like fun

3:00 AM:        ETP: and it truly is

3:00 AM:      dodee: like I need to unleash my awesomeness on this target

3:00 AM:  GodEater|: do it for the crowd

3:00 AM:        kil: so who else is gonna jump on tha SC2 band wagon?

3:00 AM:      dodee: that's like muhammad ali going all out on a quadrapalegic

3:00 AM:             SummAh demands for awesomneness peace

3:00 AM:      dodee: well, oldschool ali, not shakey, curreny ali.

3:00 AM:      dodee: current, even.

3:01 AM:     SummAh: kil: i dun need to jump on it..I'm already on the original

SC truck!

3:01 AM:     Fishie: After all Dodee is the guy who couldnt even win a simple

argument where I had already admitted I was wrong so he started to wave his @

around, boohoo I need my mommy boohoo im gonna ban you cause I cant hadle

someone with superior intellect

3:01 AM:        ETP: woah, big paragraph alert

3:01 AM:        ETP: im gonna skip it though

3:01 AM:        ETP: probably will be boring

3:01 AM:     SummAh: haha

3:01 AM:      dodee: you've been called a lot of things here .be, but none of

them have ever been "superior intellect"

3:01 AM:        ETP: i assume that it says something like "Wah!"

3:01 AM:        kil: doh SummAh u beat me 2 it :(

3:02 AM:      dodee: I'm just trying to look at cute kittens, and people gotta

rain on my parade

3:02 AM:     SummAh: ETP: stop copying yo! WAH is mine!

3:02 AM:     Fishie: Hehe, im of to play Evo

3:02 AM:        kil: lol

3:02 AM:     Fishie: Latah suckers

3:02 AM:  GodEater|: go

3:02 AM:      dodee: one ringy-dingy

3:02 AM:        kil: bye

3:02 AM:  GodEater|: faster

3:02 AM:        ETP: summah: sorry, didnt know

3:02 AM:        ETP: can i "lah" ?

3:03 AM:     SummAh: ETP: now u know LAH!

3:03 AM:        kil: hehe i guess?

3:03 AM:     SummAh: ^___^

3:03 AM: *** Signoff: Fishie (dodee you can suck my 2 inch dick)

3:03 AM:      dodee: wah isn't yours

3:03 AM:      dodee: I use wah all the time

3:03 AM:  GodEater|: okay. now I can go to sleep

3:03 AM:  GodEater|: that ended blandly

3:03 AM:     SummAh: LEH LAH LOH WAH DUNNO HAR ORO ~~~~~=== MINE~~~~!!!

3:03 AM:   DevilRei: meep

3:03 AM:      dodee: what'd you expect?

3:03 AM:      dodee: a decent fight?

3:03 AM:   DevilRei: night night GE~

3:03 AM:      dodee: nigga please.

3:03 AM:     SummAh: decent ^__^

3:04 AM:      dodee: http://www.ratemykitten.com/?kitten=9554

3:04 AM:      dodee: yuck!

3:04 AM:      dodee: BALD PUSSY

3:04 AM:  GodEater|: god, that's awful

3:04 AM:        ETP: ewww

3:04 AM:      dodee: my juvenile joke or the picture?

3:04 AM:  GodEater|: pic

3:04 AM:      dodee: phew.

3:05 AM:  GodEater|: night all

3:05 AM:        ETP: night

3:05 AM:     SummAh: night god

3:05 AM: *** Signoff: GodEater| (it is more than the list you said you'd do)

3:06 AM:      dodee: see, since rich started the log thing, .be's been like the

idiots behind the reporter on the news

3:06 AM:      dodee: because they're "on camera" they try to get attention and

stuff

3:07 AM:             Myke` is gone. Away after 10 minutes of inactivity [Since:

07/29/02 17:04:11 EET]

3:09 AM:     SummAh: hmmm..me got msg from imf todae

3:09 AM:     SummAh: wonder what it is abt?

3:09 AM:     SummAh: maybe he angry n want to scold me?

3:09 AM:     SummAh: hmmmmm

3:09 AM:     SummAh: *shrugs*

3:09 AM:        ETP: imf was being reasonable today

3:09 AM:      dodee: you should maybe just delete it without reading it

3:10 AM:        ETP: and talked akira with a few people without being an ass

3:10 AM:     SummAh: i dunno..i was asleep when he askedm 'u there'

3:10 AM:   Jedi_Fei: summah

3:10 AM:      dodee: yeah, I saw that blondie was here and didn't get banned

3:10 AM:   Jedi_Fei: who do you think is that best akira player in the us

3:10 AM:     SummAh: yes young jedi!

3:10 AM:     SummAh: hmmmm...that is a very boring question indeed

3:11 AM:     SummAh: I have only seen two

3:11 AM:     SummAh: Ad n imf

3:11 AM:     SummAh: both have a long way to go

3:11 AM:   Jedi_Fei: You guys are really tough on us FL guys

3:11 AM:     SummAh: so i believe maybe the SD boys could also stand a chance to

making into the 'best' list

3:11 AM:     SummAh: JD: I am not alone in my view..no one is being tough on u

3:11 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Summah: no no

3:11 AM:        rsw: FUCKbag

3:12 AM:  mike92123: SD boys?

3:12 AM:     SummAh: plus..I have only seen 2 akira...u cannot seriously expect

me to answer it in all honesty?

3:12 AM:     SummAh: san diego

3:12 AM:        rsw: accidentally taping over something that isn't going to be

rebroadcasted SUCKS

3:12 AM:   Jedi_Fei: True

3:12 AM:     SummAh: u know..spotty..dave n co

3:12 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Im an ass for asking

3:12 AM:  mike92123: oh ok

3:12 AM:     SummAh: are than in sd..or LA? i get confused

3:13 AM:  mike92123: spotlite is actually from LA

3:13 AM:     SummAh: geography is not my strongest suit

3:13 AM:  mike92123: david is from SD but we all play together

3:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Its funny though no one has given blondie and IMF a

straight up compliment.  Everyone says your vid is OK, But....

3:13 AM:     SummAh: what seems to be the problem?

3:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Not very cool.   

3:13 AM:     SummAh: they expected compliments?

3:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: No

3:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Not at all

3:13 AM:        ETP: i dont think people are too mean to florida people. i think

florida people are too nice to themselves sometimes

3:13 AM:     SummAh: so what's the problem?

3:14 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Nothing just me observing

3:14 AM:      dodee: what ETP said

3:14 AM:      dodee: when someone talks themselves up, of course people's

comments are gonna be critical

3:14 AM:      dodee: if they said "we suck" people would be all "nah (whatever)

was good"

3:14 AM:     SummAh: JD : I complimented it was an entertaining clip...

3:14 AM:     SummAh: that was it

3:14 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Ok

3:14 AM:   Jedi_Fei: that for the imput everyone

3:14 AM:   Jedi_Fei: thanks*

3:14 AM:        ETP: now lets ban him!!!

3:15 AM:        ETP: jk

3:15 AM:     SummAh: haha!

3:15 AM:        ETP: :D

3:15 AM:      dodee: hah

3:15 AM:      dodee: get 'im!

3:15 AM:     shinra: that clip was boring, imo

3:15 AM:     shinra: :)

3:15 AM:     SummAh: plus...if I had mentioned that the clip showed alot of

inbred play..i dun think it's gonna be taken nicely by blondie n co

3:15 AM:     shinra: i can be honest can i? :)

3:15 AM:     SummAh: so why would i bother with it?

3:15 AM:        ETP: which clip?

3:16 AM:        ETP: is it available through vfdc?

3:16 AM:     shinra: jacky: p+k,p,k !! whoa cool!

3:16 AM:     shinra: zzz

3:16 AM:        ETP: hey now

3:16 AM:     shinra: ok i'll stop my honesty now

3:16 AM:   Jedi_Fei: summah:  Inbred play??

3:16 AM:     shinra: :)

3:17 AM:        ETP: it take a shit load of games to find the kind of stuff

daioh shows

3:17 AM:      dodee: hey, at least it didn't cause the international incident

that matty's criticism of the korean van video did

3:17 AM:     SummAh: dodee: ha!

3:17 AM:        ETP: ha

3:17 AM:        ETP: that was awesome

3:17 AM:     SummAh: wah etp..we so smart..we give same reply...STOP COPYING

ME!!!!

3:17 AM:        ETP: i believe foreign ministers had to intervene

3:17 AM:     SummAh: ^__^

3:17 AM:        ETP: to prevent war

3:17 AM:        ETP: [03:26] <ETP> ha

3:17 AM:        ETP: [03:26] <SummAh> dodee: ha!

3:17 AM:        ETP: mine was first

3:17 AM:        ETP: you copied me

3:17 AM:        ETP: :D

3:17 AM:     SummAh: no!

3:18 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Summah:  what did you mean By Inbred play??

3:18 AM:      dodee: <SummAh> dodee: ha!

3:18 AM:      dodee: <ETP> ha

3:18 AM:      dodee: that's how it was here

3:18 AM:        ETP: damn your australian time trickery!!

3:18 AM:     SummAh: can anyone explain inbred play to jedi plz?

3:18 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Why cant you

3:18 AM:     SummAh: ETP: it's a canadian thang..always behind!!!!

3:18 AM:      dodee: inbred play is when you get way to used to how a small

group plays

3:18 AM: *** Signoff: Hotsauce (Connection reset by peer)

3:18 AM:     SummAh: thank u dodee

3:18 AM:        ETP: its when a select group of people play each other so much

that they are specialized against each other

3:18 AM:      dodee: so you do things against them that you know work, or dont

do things that you know DONT work against specific people

3:18 AM:        ETP: and dont know much about playing against the whole field

3:18 AM:      dodee: when in a more diverse setting you normally wouldn't

3:19 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Thats cool

3:19 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Yeah, im sure we have an inbred style.  But i dont think im

wrong in saying most players in the us do.

3:19 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Since none of us have hundreds of people in the arcades to

play

3:19 AM:     SummAh: jedi: for example..jacky does a b+k+g...immediatelys

TE...it's not a throw counterable move at all..so why he do it? cause he knew

imf would throw ..aka inbred play

3:19 AM:        ETP: i think you are right.. but most players in the us dont go

calling themselves teh greatest either

3:19 AM:      dodee: oh, it's not specific to florida

3:20 AM:      dodee: no one said it was

3:20 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Does blondie and IMF call themselves the greatest. 

3:20 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ??\

3:20 AM:     SummAh: yes..but to play only against nyc(newbies in vf4) n then

probclaim imf akira's as possibly the best...is indeed..not the right thing to

do

3:20 AM:   Jedi_Fei: That sucks if they do

3:21 AM:      dodee: they are uhm... very liberal in self-assesment.

3:21 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Thats not cool at all

3:21 AM:     SummAh: ETP: explain the content of blondie's I am better than the

rest' msg to jedi plz (if u can)

3:21 AM:        ETP: blondie says things like "nobody that knows me questions me

at all"

3:21 AM:      dodee: they dont say "I'm the best" in so many words

3:22 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Well im not here to start anything or stick up for blondie

and imf.  But im not going to dis my hommies so to say lol

3:22 AM:     SummAh: no one is asking u to dis them

3:22 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I just hope

3:22 AM:     SummAh: we're explaining to ur ' too harsh on FL' statement

3:22 AM:      dodee: no need to, we've got that base covered. =)

3:22 AM:        ETP: heh

3:22 AM:   Jedi_Fei: lol

3:22 AM:     SummAh: lol

3:22 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I understand

3:23 AM:   Jedi_Fei: You guys dont hate all florida players

3:23 AM:   Jedi_Fei: cause you dont like blondie and IMF

3:23 AM:     SummAh: errr hang on

3:23 AM:   Jedi_Fei: :-)

3:23 AM:     shinra: and enk

3:23 AM:     shinra: :)

3:23 AM:     SummAh: before it gets on the wrong track

3:23 AM:     SummAh: we dun 'hate' them

3:23 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ENK is a troll who gets bored at work

3:23 AM:     SummAh: we just dislike their online attitude

3:23 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Everything he says is solid bullshit

3:23 AM:        ETP: we dont like them as much as they seem to like themselves

3:23 AM:      dodee: hahah

3:23 AM:      dodee: ETP

3:24 AM:        rsw: no, we hate them

3:24 AM:      dodee: I couldn't have said that better myself

3:24 AM:        ETP: rsw: lol

3:24 AM:        rsw: we love to see them get banned

3:24 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Here is one thing though,  Blondie and IMF and MYself will

go and play anyone.

3:24 AM:        ETP: good

3:24 AM:     shinra: yeah, how come you guys diss each other

3:24 AM:     shinra: ?

3:24 AM:      dodee: wait, are you the guy that blondie was talking shit about

today?

3:24 AM:        rsw: jedi: that's one fundamental flaw in the way you people

think

3:25 AM:        rsw: that someone skill makes you a respectable person

3:25 AM:        rsw: it DOES NOT

3:25 AM:   Jedi_Fei: We arent trying to make friends

3:25 AM:     SummAh: exactly rico

3:25 AM:        ETP: skill + modesty = sweetness

3:25 AM:   Jedi_Fei: We are trying to be the best at VF

3:25 AM:        ETP: skill + florida = annoying

3:25 AM:        rsw: mediocre skill + bloated ego + whining + brash insults =

banning

3:25 AM:     SummAh: well...jedi..good luck

3:25 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I think you guys take way to much of what we say serious

3:25 AM:     SummAh: being best at vf is one thing

3:25 AM:        ETP: i think so to

3:26 AM:     SummAh: refusing to heed advice is another thing

3:26 AM:        rsw: jedi: it's hard not to, because you say it so deadpan

3:26 AM:        rsw: and give absolutely no indication that you're just fucking

with us

3:26 AM:        rsw: you never HAVE

3:26 AM:        rsw: now that i think about it

3:27 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Well rich,  I can say this you and blondie actually dont

like each other.   So things blondie says to you, he means

3:27 AM:   Jedi_Fei: That dosent mean we have a problem right?

3:27 AM:      dodee: well, if blondie's ever joking he never admits as much

3:28 AM:      dodee: which is just as bad as not joking in the first place

3:28 AM:     SummAh: n whenever blondie's proven wrong...it's a ' i am joking..u

guys should lighten up' defence

3:28 AM:     SummAh: sick of itr

3:28 AM:        rsw: it's total bullshit

3:28 AM:        rsw: he says fuck you

3:28 AM:        rsw: then says HAHAHA just kidding, quite a while afterward

3:29 AM:        rsw: then he acts bewildered at our hatred for him

3:29 AM:     SummAh: then he pulls a 'woe is me' tone

3:29 AM:        rsw: all of this spells one thing: he's a goddamn retard

3:29 AM:     SummAh: give me a break plz

3:29 AM:   DevilRei: Well, if you want an example of a respectable player, go

visit/talk to Shota sometime

3:29 AM:   DevilRei: one of the best in the US

3:30 AM:     Srider: where do you guys play at?

3:30 AM:     shinra: best?

3:30 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Well I just hope your strong feelings dont cause a problem

with other florida guys

3:30 AM:     shinra: in vf4?

3:30 AM:   DevilRei: but he doesn't go around bragging, or saying things without

much ground

3:30 AM:        ETP: jedi: unfortunetely it probably will

3:30 AM:        ETP: but that can be solved

3:30 AM:   DevilRei: I met him in Chicago last week, and he's one of the coolest

gamers I have ever come across

3:31 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ETP:  Thats not cool at all.  But it kinda already is like

that,  I dont think you guys think highly of me, and its probably cause im a

florida guy, and IM new to the game.

3:32 AM:     SummAh: jedi: remember ur reply to hiro?

3:32 AM:     SummAh: the one where u mentioned that FL crew also studies the

game?

3:33 AM:     SummAh: hiro meant it as 'japan takes it on a whole new level'

3:33 AM:     shinra: "we do that here"

3:33 AM:     SummAh: but was it u(?) or someone else replied n said ' we do that

as well'

3:33 AM:        rsw: jedi: the only reason i banned you was because you were

acting like an uppity rude drunkard

3:33 AM:     SummAh: u guys dun seem to get it

3:33 AM:     SummAh: there's mooks there...there's players there..all sorts of

resources to use..studying on the ps2 is not enuff..doesn't make u ready for

japan

3:34 AM:     SummAh: even hatim(who can kick FL crew anyday) readily admits

studying in the west for the game is not good enuff

3:34 AM:     shinra: i remember that post, he was saying that some of them used

special machines to study the frames

3:34 AM:     SummAh: but u guys hang on to the 'we study too' tagline

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3:35 AM:     shinra: do you guys have that machine too? j/k )

3:35 AM:     SummAh: so really..how else must it be expressed so that u guys

will acknowledge that FL isn't as hot shot as it would like to believe it is?

3:35 AM:        rsw: i wonder if andy started his own separate vf channel

3:36 AM:     shinra: who?

3:36 AM:     SummAh: crewnyc

3:36 AM:   Jedi_Fei: CrewNYC

3:36 AM:     shinra: oh

3:36 AM: *** crewnyc No such server

3:37 AM:   Jedi_Fei: well I dont know what to say.   They think they are good.

Its an arrogance.  SUcks for them when they find out they arent that good if

that happens.  

3:37 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I dont think im the best

3:37 AM:   Jedi_Fei: by far

3:37 AM:   Jedi_Fei: and IM not arrogant

3:37 AM:        rsw: it will, they'll probably be crushed at nyg3

3:37 AM:     SummAh: ok..i must admit..I use the FL tagline way to easily

3:37 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I just want to see where my skill stands

3:38 AM:      Myke`: they need to be humbled. desperately. and then we can all

go back to our normal lives.

3:38 AM:     SummAh: I apologize for dragging u into it if u're unlike them

3:38 AM:   Jedi_Fei: rsw: what if they dont get crushed

3:38 AM:      dodee: I think the FL kids are getting a stern hand mostly because

we went through this about 2 years ago with andy and his "NYC rules" binge

3:38 AM:        rsw: IF the right people show, and not just their cocksucking

little buttbuddy friends like andy and jeff

3:39 AM:     SummAh: i wouldn't say beating nyc = a thing to brag abt

3:39 AM:     SummAh: esp after what I know from hiro (who excuses my view as

arrogant)

3:39 AM:     SummAh: which

3:39 AM:     SummAh: argh

3:39 AM:     SummAh: typo

3:39 AM:     SummAh: fuckup

3:39 AM:     SummAh: I dumb

3:40 AM:     SummAh: I meant...he agreed to my views..which means I wasn't being

arrogant

3:40 AM:      Myke`: summers we know what you mean. but just because someone

agrees with you, doesn't mean you're not arrogant :P

3:40 AM:     SummAh: argh

3:40 AM:      Myke`: the person who agrees with you may be arrogant too

3:40 AM:     SummAh: dun play with me plz~~~~~

3:41 AM:     shinra: haha

3:41 AM:     SummAh: yes yes i agree

3:41 AM:      Myke`: must go

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3:41 AM:     SummAh: argh nevermind..ORE NO AHOR~~~~~ FORGET WHATR I JUST

SAID...

3:41 AM:             SummAh kicks his own face

3:41 AM:        ETP: the florida situation could be solved by playing a bunch of

people at gatherings like this nyc thing. doing well at it, and then being

modest and genuinely human

3:42 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I think everyone who goes to NYG3 is going with a shotgun

and some brassknuckles, and are going to take out blondie and imf

3:42 AM:        ETP: word would travel

3:42 AM:     SummAh: jedi: i cannot say i blame them

3:42 AM:     SummAh: but in all honesty..I am quite sure the gathering will turn

out fun for everyone

3:42 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ETP:  thats honestly the mentality we are going with

3:42 AM:   Jedi_Fei: etp:its just that everyone in florida is an internet troll

3:42 AM:     SummAh: win or lose..no one is gonna brag...except for u know who

if they win

3:43 AM:   Jedi_Fei: We wont brag

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3:43 AM:        ETP: see there is one other thing

3:43 AM:        ETP: not bragging is not enough

3:43 AM:     SummAh: jedi: we've heard the 'we dun brag' line b4...esp when it's

them trying to convince us they are really good at the game already

3:43 AM:        ETP: being humble is more than just holding your tongue

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3:44 AM:        ETP: but im sure that if the florida people are sincere itll

work out

3:44 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Would you guys say im a humble FLorida player??

3:44 AM:        ETP: i dont know

3:44 AM:     SummAh: i dunno..i never played u haha!

3:44 AM:     SummAh: joking

3:45 AM:     SummAh: jedi: i can tell u this...after all the hoo haa that has

happened

3:45 AM:     SummAh: i didn't appreciate recieving an icq msg..telling me ' i

will come down under n hand some ass'..even as a joke..I didn't find it funny

3:45 AM:      dodee: I miss the gatherings mostly to visit people and shit

3:45 AM:      dodee: I hven't played vf seriously in like... 4 years

3:46 AM:      dodee: even the last time I went to TO was to visit, not really to

play

3:46 AM:     SummAh: dodee: same

3:46 AM:      dodee: I haven't gone to any gatherings since cause the atmosphere

was billed so differently

3:46 AM:     SummAh: i go up to sydney not to prove my skills..more like to muck

around with the rest of the boys

3:46 AM:        rsw: why dodee, you're a mere seven hours from nyc. go to nyg3

and see the zoo!

3:46 AM:     SummAh: i dun need to prove myself against the locals

3:46 AM:     SummAh: rico: lol

3:46 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I think thats a big part of the problem

3:47 AM:   Jedi_Fei: You guys are down with hardcore playing,  it very

recreational for you

3:47 AM:      dodee: if I went to nyc, I'd be mostly to chill with ad. he's coo.

3:47 AM:     SummAh: jedi: ah no...i'm very hardcore myself

3:47 AM:      dodee: and andy's good if you can get him to chill a bit

3:47 AM:   Jedi_Fei: OHh

3:47 AM:     SummAh: it's just a simple theory...there's a time to chill..a time

for hardcore

3:47 AM:   Jedi_Fei: sorry,  guess im wrong

3:47 AM:      dodee: original nelson and sal are chill, too

3:47 AM:      dodee: I'm all for people being serious in an organized arcade

tournament

3:48 AM:      dodee: but mucking about in someone's living room/conference room

is hardly the atmosphere for "hardcore" play

3:48 AM:     SummAh: reap

3:48 AM:     SummAh: yeap

3:48 AM:   Jedi_Fei: we are serious everytime we play,  so there one difference

that I can see would cause lots of animosity

3:48 AM:      dodee: if you're just trying to win every time you play, I think

you're missing a lot of the game

3:49 AM:        rsw: adam would jump all over you for that

3:49 AM:     SummAh: well...generally..me n my friends play the game

seriously..but there's no 'I am the best jacky in oz' (even though I think I am

but hey..who gives a fuck)

3:49 AM:        rsw: and because of his mentality he's the most boring vf player

on the fucking planet

3:49 AM:      dodee: adam's mindset is entirely different, but he'll readily

admit to having a "boring" akira

3:49 AM:        rsw: he managed to reduce vf3 (and presumably 4) to utter shit

3:49 AM:        rsw: twitch!@@!

3:49 AM:        rsw: TWIWICTH@!@

3:49 AM:        rsw: WAIIIIT@!!@!

3:49 AM:     SummAh: well rich..I have seen his vf4 style..it's honestly not

that boring

3:50 AM:     SummAh: slow pace yes..but not boring imo

3:50 AM:      dodee: ad's vf3 akira was reallly reallllly dull. =)

3:50 AM:     SummAh: but yes..SLOW pace

3:50 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Adam wins,  hands down

3:50 AM:     SummAh: dodee: so i heard from everyone ^_^

3:50 AM:        rsw: adam bores, hands down

3:50 AM:     SummAh: lol

3:50 AM:   Jedi_Fei: No ever, ever says,  "wow,  that guy won really cool"

3:50 AM:   Jedi_Fei: lose*

3:50 AM:   Jedi_Fei: loss*

3:50 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Duhh

3:51 AM:        rsw: and it's not that impressive - it's basic reactive play

taken to the most basic and boring level

3:51 AM:      dodee: and only weenies say "he won all the time, albiet with

really dull shit

3:51 AM:   Jedi_Fei: dodee:why

3:51 AM:   Jedi_Fei: dodee:weenie for saying that

3:51 AM:      dodee: cause, there's a time and a place for 100% guarunteed

stuff, and that place is a tournament

3:51 AM:      dodee: if you cant just screw around and try new things ever,

you're not gonna see the full potetntial of the game

3:52 AM:        rsw: fuzzy block. wait for opponent to attack. punish.

3:52 AM:        rsw: wash, rinse, repeat

3:52 AM:      dodee: how do you think new things get found out?

3:52 AM:        rsw: and the dude never EVER changes, even against a fucking

scrub

3:52 AM:      dodee: not by rehashing the same known things

3:52 AM:        rsw: it's aawwwfffullll

3:52 AM:        ETP: dodee: by the japanese

3:52 AM:      dodee: etp, hah

3:52 AM:        ETP: we are free to be as boring as we like

3:52 AM:        ETP: :D

3:52 AM:      dodee: yes, but how do THEY do it?

3:52 AM:        ETP: i dont know

3:52 AM:   Jedi_Fei: dodee: how long have you been playing VF

3:52 AM:      dodee: that's why the japanese will always be better

3:52 AM:      dodee: fei, uhm... 9....4?

3:52 AM:        ETP: dodee has been playing a little over 3 months

3:53 AM:      dodee: when vf1 came out in the arcade

3:53 AM:        ETP: but his akira is almost 4th dan in kumite

3:53 AM:     SummAh: etp: dodee is a noob ..not an elite member lol

3:53 AM:     SummAh: joking

3:53 AM:        ETP: :D

3:53 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I was asking an honest question

3:53 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Im not blonde one

3:53 AM:     SummAh: i know..

3:53 AM:     vf4guy: what's all this vf talk doing in this channel!? ;)

3:53 AM:     SummAh: the joke wasn't directed at u

3:53 AM:        ETP: dont mind me, im just pretty random at times

3:53 AM:     SummAh: shaddup vf4guy!!! ^____^

3:53 AM:        ETP: vf4guy: i dont know

3:53 AM:     SummAh: sup vf4?

3:53 AM:      dodee: I've been playing since it's been possible to play

(domestically), and active online since rgva

3:54 AM:   Jedi_Fei: cool

3:54 AM:        ETP: CreeD isnt here to keep us on track with proper, porn

related conversations

3:54 AM:     vf4guy: sup summah.  been playing neverwinter nights.

3:54 AM:     SummAh: hey..is that fun?

3:54 AM:     vf4guy: etp: heheh

3:54 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I wish i would have found out how cool vf is a long time

ago

3:54 AM:     vf4guy: summah: it's pretty fun when you're playing with your

friends.  

3:55 AM:     SummAh: vf4: oic..tried WC3 yet? man..they got funny lines in the

game

3:55 AM:     SummAh: lotsa them right outta songs n movies

3:55 AM:     SummAh: 'I'll be alot stronger in the expansion pack!'

3:55 AM:   Jedi_Fei: summah:My life for ire, i mean nazzule

3:55 AM:     vf4guy: hehehe.  never played any of the WC games.  I suck bad at

those kinds of games.

3:55 AM:   DevilRei: I sleepeth~~

3:55 AM:      dodee: I was wet for wc3 3 years ago

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3:56 AM:      dodee: too little too late now

3:56 AM:      dodee: I'll prolly play SC2

3:56 AM:      dodee: starcraft 2, that is

3:56 AM:   Jedi_Fei: But back to VF

3:56 AM:   Jedi_Fei: we do try out new things

3:56 AM:     vf4guy: gonna play the other SC2 tomorrow.  most likely the first

and last time i'll play it. :p

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3:57 AM:     SummAh: in terms of new things...

3:57 AM:      dodee: I'm missing the context, jedi

3:57 AM:   Jedi_Fei: We play all the time,  Id see four days a week,  we get

together and play vf

3:57 AM:      dodee: I'm talking seat of your pants stuff, not "I read _______,

so let me try it"

3:58 AM:      dodee: I was hell bent on comboing pai's lunging kick in 3

3:58 AM:   Jedi_Fei: and when just go at it, and try and find new flowcharts and

things that work

3:58 AM:      dodee: lost TONS of rounds because of that

3:58 AM:     SummAh: I think another thing I observed is...there's alot of shit

on the board..not info..so when the FL crew or anyone post 'look..i found out

etc etc' someone goes 'we know..late comer' replied by 'dickhead...just because

u knew it b4 doesn't mean u can flame me' ->when it's not even a flame

3:59 AM:     SummAh: that's part of the reason why i stop contributing to jacky

threads

3:59 AM:   Jedi_Fei: lol

3:59 AM:     SummAh: because I got the feeling ppl didn't like me telling them '

errr..it's old news'

3:59 AM:      dodee: I dunno, one of the players I respect the most is graham,

mostly because he was willing to play shitty chars (aoi) and do intersting

things with other ones

3:59 AM:     vf4guy: when I play VF4, all i wanna do is knee and spod. :p  my

whole game is based around that. :)

3:59 AM:      dodee: anyone with enough time can flowchart akira to death

3:59 AM:     SummAh: vf4guy: we know abt ur perfect knee lah...su geh timing'

4:00 AM:     vf4guy: dodee: you could say that about all the chars...  

4:00 AM:     vf4guy: knee is fun!

4:00 AM:   Jedi_Fei: VF dosent have shittty characters

4:00 AM:     vf4guy: it's like deceptive and stuff.  at least to me. :)

4:00 AM:     SummAh: jedi: i also got the feeling ppl didn't appreciate me

pointing out their mistakes..as we saw mentioned in the flame war..so i stopped

contributing

4:00 AM:      dodee: lemme rephrase.

4:01 AM:     SummAh: well..someone pvt msg me n asked me if it's possible to

throw akira's knee..I was like ' why of coz..' ^_^

4:01 AM:   Jedi_Fei: lol

4:01 AM:      dodee: time invested in akira or jacky will more than likely reap

more rewards than a similar amount of time invested in pai.

4:01 AM:      dodee: just for instance.

4:01 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ok

4:01 AM:   Jedi_Fei: better said

4:01 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Aoi can be a demon

4:01 AM:     vf4guy: dodee: makes sense.  

4:01 AM:      dodee: can be sure, but it's way harder

4:01 AM:     SummAh: jedi: n it's true..his knee is indeed throw counterable

4:01 AM:   Jedi_Fei: but I think the top three guys in VF4(Just VF4)  are jacky

lau and wolf

4:02 AM:     SummAh: of coz..strangely enuff..ppl dun believe it

4:02 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I know

4:02 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Its a 9 frame recovery

4:02 AM:   Jedi_Fei: You have to be on the ball

4:02 AM:   Jedi_Fei: but you can do it

4:02 AM:     vf4guy: any spastic jacky can beat me. :(

4:02 AM:     SummAh: jedi: yah..on the BALL

4:02 AM:     SummAh: I mean..BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

4:02 AM:     SummAh: hehe

4:02 AM:      dodee: I personally wouldn't rate wolf higher than akira

4:02 AM:      dodee: I dont think many others would, either

4:02 AM:     SummAh: wolf is not top 3

4:03 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Its my opinion

4:03 AM:      dodee: a quick perusal of akira's

recovery-time-to-potential-reward ratios is nuts.

4:03 AM:     SummAh: but then again..tier on paper is that..on paper

4:03 AM:        rsw: jedi: back it up, then

4:03 AM:     SummAh: tier on paper is totally wortless in my opinion...

4:04 AM:        rsw: "i can bend spoons with my mind" -> "bullshit you can" ->

"it's my opinion so fuck you!"

4:04 AM:   Jedi_Fei: lol

4:04 AM:     vf4guy: do tiers have any use?  They don't seem useful at all.

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4:05 AM:   Jedi_Fei: My reason is scrub newbie reasons, and I dont want to look

like another FLorida scrub

4:05 AM:      dodee: ahaha

4:05 AM:      dodee: too late! =P

4:06 AM:   Jedi_Fei: thanks

4:06 AM:      dodee: just playin, sheesh

4:06 AM:     SummAh: jedi: rsw's nailed it on the spot...that's how blondie

usually argues

4:06 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ok

4:06 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ill explain

4:06 AM:     SummAh: we prove him wrong...he fucks us n gets all angry at us

4:06 AM:   Jedi_Fei: but dont go jumping me

4:06 AM:      dodee: I agree that it isn't fair to judge all the florida players

based on blondie and his toadie

4:06 AM:     SummAh: no no (well..I won't)

4:06 AM:      _BMW_: i need some vf moooveeez

4:07 AM:   Jedi_Fei: with "ohh ohh your wrong your wrong and heres why"  cause,

I dotn know half about vf as you guys do and I know a bit lol

4:07 AM:      dodee: but blondie's phrasing is very similar to andy's, where he

inferrs that he's the representative of the whole group

4:07 AM:     SummAh: yes dodee

4:07 AM:      _BMW_: where are some good movies i can add to me fserver?

4:07 AM:      dodee: well, if you say something straight up wrong, it's only

NICE of us to tell you that's wrong

4:07 AM:     SummAh: the 'we' and 'i better than the rest' pops up alot

4:07 AM:      dodee: like the akira knee recovery thing

4:07 AM:        rsw: and that he'll bust out the "it's my opinion so somehow you

can't prove me wrong, ever"

4:07 AM:        rsw: just like andy

4:08 AM:     SummAh: anyway

4:08 AM:   Jedi_Fei: dodee:  what do you mean

4:08 AM:        rsw: i fucked saw blood whenever he sprung that shit

4:08 AM:   Jedi_Fei: dodee:akiras knee does recover in 9 frames

4:08 AM:        rsw: fuckING, rather

4:08 AM:      dodee: j: like if you said something along the lines of "akira's

knee isn't throw counterable"

4:08 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ohh ok

4:08 AM:   Jedi_Fei: here i go

4:08 AM:      dodee: we wouldn't be dicks in saying "uhm... yeah it is"

4:08 AM:      dodee: the above example being entirely hypothetical

4:08 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Akria isnt as strong as people make him out to be.  by

jedi_Fei

4:08 AM:     vf4guy: anybody know what the execution time is for a whiffed

regular throw attempt?

4:08 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ahmmm

4:09 AM:        rsw: no one knows

4:09 AM:     SummAh: keep going jedi

4:09 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Ok,  what are akrias true weapons

4:09 AM:      _BMW_: www.virtuafighter.com

4:09 AM:   Jedi_Fei: btw I dont know the abbriveations

4:09 AM:     SummAh: is ok

4:09 AM:      dodee: as intersting as this might be, it's 4am, and I'm going to

bed.

4:09 AM:   Jedi_Fei: First he has double palm

4:09 AM:      dodee: no offense, fei.

4:09 AM:     SummAh: as long as u typed them correctly hehe

4:09 AM:   Jedi_Fei: its cool

4:10 AM:   Jedi_Fei: single palm

4:10 AM:     SummAh: i'm still stuck at home haha~

4:10 AM:     SummAh: so keep typing

4:10 AM:     *dodee* you'll have to send me the log of his dissertation tomorrow

4:10 AM:   Jedi_Fei: that low fist attack, you know the one, it beats low punch

and give him advantage

4:10 AM:     vf4guy: personally, i think one of akira's nasty attacks is just

Kick. :)

4:11 AM:   Jedi_Fei: b f pk,  the two arm attack that punishes rising attacks

4:11 AM:     SummAh: n?

4:11 AM:   Jedi_Fei: so those are akiras guns

4:11 AM:     SummAh: missing a few

4:11 AM:   Jedi_Fei: hey

4:11 AM:     SummAh: dashing n super dashing elbows

4:11 AM:   Jedi_Fei: this is my opinion

4:11 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ahhh

4:11 AM:   Jedi_Fei: crap 

4:11 AM:   Jedi_Fei: your right

4:11 AM:     SummAh: shoulder

4:12 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ill stp

4:12 AM:     SummAh: n IMO low k cancel

4:12 AM:     vf4guy: don't forget knee... :)

4:12 AM:   Jedi_Fei: knee is not a weapon

4:12 AM:     SummAh: plus...one area u shouldn't have missed are his wide

selection of 'GOOD' throws

4:12 AM:   Jedi_Fei: its nice

4:12 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Im down

4:12 AM:   Jedi_Fei: done

4:12 AM:     vf4guy: fei: what do you mean by weapon?  

4:12 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I suck and you know it

4:12 AM:   Jedi_Fei: lol

4:13 AM:     vf4guy: just for clarification...

4:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I play jefferey I dont know shit about akira

4:13 AM:     SummAh: jedi: i'm not abt to judge u....dun be hard on urself

4:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: heres the real reason i think akira isnt the strongest

4:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: cause me and IMf were talking, and he said that the way he

plays

4:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: well, 

4:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: im not going to far into that

4:13 AM:   Jedi_Fei: but he said that he dosent think akrias is the best

4:14 AM:   Jedi_Fei: he gave me a reason that invovle the way he plays

4:14 AM:   Jedi_Fei: and I agree

4:14 AM:   Jedi_Fei: See its an opinion

4:14 AM:     SummAh: well

4:14 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I told everyone that from the start

4:14 AM:     SummAh: i have an opinion as to why I said his akira still has a

long way to go...

4:15 AM:   Jedi_Fei: LOl

4:15 AM:   Jedi_Fei: sorry i wasted everyone time btw

4:15 AM:   Jedi_Fei: go on summah

4:15 AM:     SummAh: hang on plz

4:16 AM:     SummAh: see..the true strenght of akira lies in his nitaku ability

4:16 AM:     SummAh: it's a proven fact

4:16 AM:     SummAh: by experience

4:16 AM:     SummAh: imf (as it appears to me) dun seem to play him in that way

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4:17 AM:     SummAh: thus..afaik..akira's true potential is not unleashed at all

4:17 AM:      _BMW_: wut is nitaku?

4:17 AM:     SummAh: what is wut? ^__^

4:17 AM:     vf4guy: nitaku = 2 choices

4:17 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Hey, I didn't know you guys record some of the logs from

here ... :d

4:17 AM:     vf4guy: wut you say !!

4:17 AM:      _BMW_: um

4:17 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: :D

4:17 AM:      _BMW_: then nitaku is EVERY chars main strength

4:17 AM:      _BMW_: .. .

4:18 AM:     SummAh: no it's not

4:18 AM:             _BMW_ waits for someone to hand him a quarter so he can buy

a clue

4:18 AM:     SummAh: because not everyone has akira's recovery speed

4:18 AM:     SummAh: vf4guy: i expect a report abt SC2 from u tomolo!

4:18 AM:     SummAh: god speed soldier~!!!!

4:18 AM:             ETP hands him a canadian quarter, which buys him a little

less than half a clue

4:18 AM:     vf4guy: summah: Ok! :)

4:19 AM:     vf4guy: need santaku pawaa!

4:19 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Can you explain nitaku some more

4:19 AM:     SummAh: santaku is pure ass!~

4:19 AM:     SummAh: ASS!

4:20 AM:     SummAh: see...a character like pai...doesn't need to be afraid of

akira's DE,SDE,palms etc etc...u can guard them!~..but what pai must really work

on is figuring out akira's follow ups! (which is nitaku based)

4:20 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ok

4:20 AM:     SummAh: n there is where akira's strength lies...be a good nitaku

player..n u can give opponent hell with akira

4:21 AM:     vf4guy: nitaku = 2 choices that a person can do, which usually end

up in making you the opponent choose which to guard or dodge, etc.  

4:21 AM:     SummAh: evade wrongly..eat the SDE KD DJK/spod..or shoulder..choose

to throw escape he spods etc etc etc

4:21 AM:     vf4guy: it sux having someone setting you up in nitaku situations

because you'll get hit/thrown 50% of the time... unless you do crap like EDTE

and shit.

4:21 AM:     SummAh: choose to throw akira he shoulders u etc etc etc

4:22 AM:     SummAh: yah..what vf4guy just said is totally correct

4:22 AM:   Jedi_Fei: But IMF does do that

4:22 AM:     SummAh: i be right back..must go down for coffee...^__^

4:22 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I play against him,  he makes me guess after everything he

does, blondie too

4:23 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Choose do duck after Jeff's pick up throw and eat a low

throw for example? :)

4:23 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Most of Jeff's strats envolve Nitaku I guess

4:23 AM:     SummAh: yes bu

4:23 AM:     SummAh: correct again

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4:24 AM:      _BMW_: im about to goto whataburger i think

4:24 AM:     vf4guy: against jeffry, i just stand there and take whatever he

dishes out. :)

4:24 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Well if you just stand there, like after his pick up for

example, you might eat a regular damaging throw

4:25 AM:      _BMW_: akiras main weakness is that he has VERY few safe attacks

4:25 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Or a force crouch move if you don't recover fast enough...

4:25 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: force crouch into a low throw

4:25 AM:     vf4guy: bu_jasoom: i mean I don't try to do anything but escape

throw then guard.  so that usually means I don't move.

4:25 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: _BMW_: Actually, Most of Akira's attacks are safe as I see

them

4:25 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: vf4guy: oh I see

4:25 AM:      _BMW_: elbow is safe

4:26 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Elbow, DE, SDE, 

4:26 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Dblpm

4:26 AM:   Jedi_Fei: is not saft

4:26 AM:   Jedi_Fei: safe

4:26 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Side kick

4:26 AM:   Jedi_Fei: shoulder is not safe

4:26 AM:   Jedi_Fei: side kick is not safe i dont think

4:26 AM:   Jedi_Fei: sde is not safe

4:26 AM:      _BMW_: i thought dp WAS safe...if it's blocked?

4:26 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: that d/f P+K+G move of his

4:26 AM:      _BMW_: b,df+p is safe

4:26 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Well to me as long as a move is not punch or throw

counterable it's safe

4:26 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Dp is throw counter-able

4:27 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: I can venture with a lot of options after those

4:27 AM:      _BMW_: bu me too

4:27 AM:   Jedi_Fei: double palm is throw counter able

4:27 AM:      _BMW_: that's what im saying

4:27 AM:      _BMW_: im saying "safe" as in nothing is guaranteed if it is

blocked

4:27 AM:      _BMW_: i dont consider dp very safe

4:27 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Well my list didn't say dlplm, but I still like it

though...  :)

4:27 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Man, if I block a double palm i get a throw every time

4:28 AM:   Jedi_Fei: ok

4:28 AM:      _BMW_: but that's bc if it is sidestepped then opponent has ALL

DAY to rape you

4:28 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: _BMW_: That's the point, you can't have many guarantees

after your attacks... You have to gamble a little

4:28 AM:     vf4guy: i always PK blocked dbpms and shoulders.  :)

4:29 AM:      _BMW_: why not throw?

4:29 AM:      _BMW_: not guaranteed but you can do hella dmg

4:29 AM:     vf4guy: just because PK is guaranteed damage and throw isn't.

4:29 AM:      _BMW_: hrmmm

4:29 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Actually, PK is not guaranteed after dlpm is it? Only if

you TE though :)

4:29 AM:   Jedi_Fei: vf4guy:Hiro was telling us that too.

4:29 AM:     vf4guy: not only that, PK is my setup for other stuff.  socali team

hates that I don't throw. :)

4:29 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: after blocking a dlplm I meant

4:30 AM:   Jedi_Fei: bu

4:30 AM:      _BMW_: i know where you're coming from, but i havent played anyone

i felt the need to abandon throws for guaranteed shits

4:30 AM:   Jedi_Fei: you can pk after any move that throw counter able

4:30 AM:   Jedi_Fei: its a really effective play style

4:30 AM:     vf4guy: bu_jasoom: i think it's PK'able after block.  might have to

hold forward though.  i don't remember. I just do what's necessary to hit when

i'm playing. :)

4:30 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Really? I thought a punch takes 12 frames to execute..

4:31 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: While dlplm is -10?

4:31 AM:   Jedi_Fei: its the mind game

4:31 AM:      _BMW_: dp also pushes yah back

4:31 AM:   Jedi_Fei: people will throw escape after moves they know they will

get thrown for if it gets blocked

4:31 AM:      _BMW_: dp is safe if it hits i thought

4:32 AM:   Jedi_Fei: if you dont throw you will hit them

4:32 AM:     vf4guy: dbpm is -12

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4:32 AM:   Jedi_Fei: well im out

4:32 AM:   Jedi_Fei: I hope my scrub florida ways, hasnt angered or bored anyone

4:32 AM:   Jedi_Fei: Later everyone

4:32 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Later Jedi

4:32 AM:     vf4guy: anyway, spotlite loves to dbpm and shoulder, and i make

sure he gets PK'ed everytime i block them. :)

4:33 AM:     vf4guy: later jedi

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4:33 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: vf4guy: I see, then it's indeed p counterable

4:33 AM:     vf4guy: i might not know much about the game, but I know what's p

counterable. =)

4:33 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: hehe

4:34 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: For some reason I always thought dlpm wasn't 

4:34 AM:     vf4guy: people get mad when I PK them all the time I block their p

counterable moves.   It's like I'm not good enough to throw or something. hehe

4:34 AM:      _BMW_: it's like an insult

4:34 AM:     vf4guy: yeah.  anything that disrupts their game is my advantage.

4:34 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: It's the method with the guaranteed damage actually

4:35 AM:      _BMW_: "i dont need throw dmg all i need is pk dmg to win"

4:35 AM:      _BMW_: or something

4:35 AM:     vf4guy: PK used to be naaasty in VF2.0.  the kick would knock you

down!  that meant auto-stomp after PK.  ick.

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4:36 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: vf4guy: Yeah, and I think you can also m-dlpm after a pk in

vf2?

4:36 AM:    __BMW__: AKIRAS KNEE REVERSAL IS JUST PLAIN evil

4:36 AM:    __BMW__: OMG

4:36 AM:    __BMW__: sorry bout the cap

4:36 AM:    __BMW__: s

4:36 AM:     vf4guy: that's my fav reversal. :)

4:37 AM:    __BMW__: looks cool on biguns

4:37 AM:    __BMW__: akira tossing jeffry into the corner is just too good

4:38 AM:     vf4guy: it just makes me want to say "get that SHIT OUTTA here

bitch!" when I get someone with it. :)

4:38 AM:    __BMW__: anyways, ive got 12 gigs of music and some game movies

trying to get more vf4 movies

4:39 AM:    __BMW__: /ctcp _BMW_ !movies

4:39 AM:    __BMW__: /ctcp _BMW_ !music

4:39 AM:    __BMW__: bbl

4:39 AM:             Bu_Jasoom remembers how he lost ALL VF4 media when he had

to restore his PC!!!

4:41 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Well, I gtg.

4:41 AM:  Bu_Jasoom: Catch ya later guys

4:41 AM:     vf4guy: one guy here has all the daioh videos from like a year ago

or something.  many gigs

4:41 AM:     vf4guy: ok, laters!

4:42 AM: *** Signoff: Bu_Jasoom ()

4:42 AM:      _BMW_: 02ÇÇ 01Hard Drive Info02 ÈÈ 01C Drive02Ç0189.02Gb Free Out

of 111.79Gb total02È 01Labeled02Ç01n/a02È 01Type02Ç01fixed02È 02Ç

0102è01ׂŸ¨¤”š– 02È

4:43 AM:      _BMW_: safe to say i got room for some vf

4:43 AM:     vf4guy: wow. that's a lot of space.  I'm running low on my 40GB. :(

4:43 AM:      _BMW_: best buy

4:43 AM:      _BMW_: 80 gig maxto uata133 7200rpm

4:44 AM:      _BMW_: maxto=maxtor

4:44 AM:      _BMW_: 150$

4:44 AM:      _BMW_: that's what i got for my old computer

4:44 AM:     vf4guy: i gotta beef up the space on my server.  i don't need 40GB

on my workstation (this) PC.

4:44 AM:      _BMW_: storage is so cheap now

4:44 AM:     vf4guy: i'm jobless right now, so no buying for me. :(

4:44 AM:      _BMW_: wait a minute

4:45 AM:      _BMW_: i need a cheeseburger!

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4:52 AM: *** Signoff: ETP ("I get to go to lots of overseas places, like

Canada." - Britney Spears)

4:55 AM: *** Signoff: siLE-Pai (Idle time limit exceeded)

4:57 AM:             vf4guy idles

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