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9:28 PM: *** Topic for #vfhome:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=59593 phat game | almaci stays

banned

9:28 PM: *** Topic for #vfhome set by dodee on Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:00:47

PM

9:28 PM: #vfhome: rsw Myke` somedude2 HydroXide Blond1 GE-away St-Champ Insomn|a

@dodee Srider ironpalm ChoiBoy tragic @CreeD SpaceRain @HeaTrnsfr al`Thor

@Yasakani @Shou-sama @clo 

9:28 PM: *** End of /NAMES list.

9:28 PM: *** Channel Mode is +stn 

9:28 PM: *** Channel created at Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:30:16 PM

9:28 PM:     Blond1: Evo Jacky looks to have some added attitude, good looking

moves, and hopefully people won't be so annoyed by him now =)

9:28 PM:      Myke`: cool, glad to hear you're ok

9:28 PM:     Blond1: thnx.

9:31 PM:      Myke`: he's definitely more stylish now

9:32 PM:      CreeD: po'd dodee by arguing in an assy way

9:33 PM: *** Reno- (alfonso@d141-186-32.home.cgocable.net) has joined channel

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9:34 PM:      dodee: intentionally

9:34 PM:   Insomn|a: dodee gets pissed off if anybody contradicts him

9:34 PM:      dodee: after being warned numerous times

9:34 PM:      dodee: dont start with me, boy

9:34 PM:      dodee: I'm still punchy

9:34 PM:      Reno-: what did almaci do this time?

9:34 PM:      Reno-: and i think you need to hookup with +o, it's getting a

little short up three =b

9:34 PM:      Reno-: there too!

9:34 PM:        rsw: i hate to agree with that weirdo, but that is often the

case

9:34 PM:        rsw: send log

9:35 PM:      dodee: he kept accusing me of the cliche "you're gonna ban me

cause I disagree," whilst I was trying to just get him to stick to one logical

argument the whole time

9:35 PM:        rsw: log.

9:35 PM:      dodee: no tengo

9:36 PM:      CreeD: I was just digging for it, this thing's logging system is

odd

9:39 PM:      dodee: nearly one of the most clear-cut examples of trolling for a

beating like... ever

9:40 PM: *** Mode change "+ooo GE-away Myke` Reno-" on #vfhome by dodee

9:40 PM: *** Mode change "+oo rsw tragic" on #vfhome by dodee

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9:40 PM:      dodee: who is *!*@*asm.bellsouth.net?

9:40 PM:      dodee: moeb

9:40 PM:   Moebius^: myke, you got it translated yet?

9:41 PM:        rsw: dodee: chr|s

9:41 PM:      Myke`: moe, kinda

9:41 PM:      dodee: who is chr|s ?

9:41 PM:    GE-away: stretch

9:41 PM:   Moebius^: hola dodee

9:41 PM:        rsw: shou banned him because he kept disconnecting and

reconnecting

9:41 PM:      dodee: ahaha

9:41 PM:        rsw: constantly

9:41 PM:   Moebius^: where's the profile listing myke?

9:41 PM:      Myke`: moe, sec

9:41 PM:   Moebius^: k

9:41 PM:      CreeD: and anyway he never talks, so fuckit

9:42 PM:      dodee: that's amusing

9:43 PM: *** GE-away is now known as GodEater|

9:49 PM:      CreeD: Ge

9:49 PM:  GodEater|: yo

9:50 PM:      Reno-: GE: I doubt I'm up for vf on sunday

9:50 PM:      CreeD: corrections welcome on that doc, I'm not 100% on ideal

combos for specific weights, esp. lighties

9:51 PM:  somedude2: sup reno

9:51 PM:  GodEater|: hey reno, you fucker. no problem

9:51 PM:      Reno-: hi faceless

9:51 PM:      Reno-: wtf GE :(

9:51 PM:  GodEater|: hehe

9:52 PM:  GodEater|: it may just be me, llan, G and Clem

9:52 PM:  GodEater|: no biggie

9:52 PM:      dodee: reno has to have is bikini line waxed for the last time

this year

9:52 PM:      dodee: his.

9:52 PM:      Reno-: dodee: WTF HOW DID YOU KNOW?!

9:53 PM:  GodEater|: dodee knows all

9:54 PM:      Reno-: damn

9:54 PM:        rsw: ge: don't encourage him! jesus!

9:54 PM:      dodee: hush, my child.

9:54 PM:  somedude2: i need this ->

http://www.lik-sang.com/catalog/product_info.php?category=0&products_id=1856&

PHPSESSID=7f00777640c6b928cb7243db0274f0f3

9:55 PM:  GodEater|: what? I thought it was a given! Why even you....

9:55 PM:      dodee: i need this ->

http://www.sexyadulthost.com/users/demi/gal001/shl015.jpg

9:56 PM:  somedude2: i think i need that too 

9:56 PM:  GodEater|: ehn...seen better

9:56 PM: *** Signoff: somedude2 (Drowning Pool vs Outkast - Let The Bodies Hit

Rosa Parks.mp3)

9:57 PM:      dodee: SHL's face looks impossibly hot in that pic.

9:57 PM:      Myke`: there's no way i'm hitting sexyadulthost.com while i'm at

work

9:57 PM:      dodee: myke, that pic is clean

9:57 PM:        rsw: bleh, fake tits

9:57 PM:      dodee: no naughty bits

9:57 PM:      Myke`: dodee doesn't matter

9:57 PM:      Myke`: the host name shows up in the log

9:57 PM:      dodee: yeah, the fake tits kinda ruin shl

9:57 PM:      Myke`: dcc me the jpg

9:57 PM:      dodee: so use the numerical IP

9:57 PM:      dodee: 157.206.3.108

9:57 PM:      Myke`: won't it get resolved?

9:57 PM:        rsw: mike, it's supremely tame and mediocre

9:58 PM:        rsw: it's not worth the effort, believe me

9:58 PM:      Myke`: ok forget it

9:58 PM:      dodee: well, unless your routers and shit intentionally go outta

their way to reverse, yeah

9:58 PM:      dodee: just sung hi lee lookin fine.

9:58 PM:      Myke`: ok

9:58 PM:      Myke`: seen enough of her anyway

9:58 PM:      dodee: I hadn't seen this particular series before

9:59 PM:      dodee: mediocre... pff

9:59 PM:  GodEater|: I agree with rsw

9:59 PM:      dodee: you guys!

10:00 PM:      Myke`: lunch. bll

10:00 PM:      Myke`: bbl

10:00 PM:      CreeD: didn't do much for me either. Maybe with more nudity.

10:00 PM:  GodEater|: be lunch later

10:00 PM:      dodee: mystery!

10:00 PM:             Myke` is gone. lunch

10:00 PM:      dodee: OBGYN textbook photos get old

10:00 PM:  GodEater|: ewwww

10:00 PM:      CreeD: at least better undies.

10:02 PM:      dodee: strappy shoes... mmmm

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10:03 PM: *** Omaha_ (rodnutzjr@AC9B6962.ipt.aol.com) has joined channel #vfhome

10:03 PM:      dodee: whoever decided advertising "enlarge your penis" things on

hetero porn sites needs a beating

10:03 PM:      dodee: pardon the pun

10:03 PM:   Insomn|a: i'm glad i have a large penis already

10:03 PM:      dodee: least of things I wanna see in that context is some guy's

wang at the top of every page

10:03 PM:     Omaha_: hahahaha longitude hahahahah

10:05 PM: *** Omaha_ is now known as Omaha_Jef

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10:06 PM:     BMW_D2: happy bday to meeeeee!

10:06 PM:      dodee: how old are you, 12?

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10:06 PM:      dodee: har har har

10:06 PM:  GodEater|: nyuk nyuk

10:07 PM: *** Signoff: Omaha_Jef (Your never gonna win..... I have STRENGTH!)

10:07 PM:     BMW_D2: aahaha

10:07 PM:  GodEater|: ahhhh the butchered quote

10:07 PM:  GodEater|: ehn.

10:07 PM:             GodEater| go bed.

10:07 PM:      dodee: so as it turns out, guys... the trick to programming open

gl is optimization and standards, not getting something to work.

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10:08 PM:     BMW_D2: um

10:08 PM:      CreeD: that explains mac quake

10:08 PM:     BMW_D2: that's true for any graphics code

10:08 PM:     BMW_D2: or any code, really

10:08 PM:     Srider: that's true for any code

10:08 PM:      dodee: it seems like... easier to code than 2d stuff from the

tiny bit of exposure I've had with it

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10:08 PM:     Srider: heh I had the same thought BMW

10:08 PM:     BMW_D2: teehee

10:08 PM:      dodee: I mean above and beyond regular code

10:08 PM:     BMW_D2: you must be old like me

10:09 PM:   Moebius^: dodee, nice quality pic

10:09 PM:     Srider: um...   depends what you are trying to accomplish dodee

10:09 PM:   Moebius^: crashed my browser, but still nice

10:09 PM:     BMW_D2: it's same way for ps2

10:09 PM:     BMW_D2: you can hack out a game

10:09 PM:     BMW_D2: but it won't be exceptional unless you tweak the snot out

of it

10:09 PM:      dodee: moeb, the look on her face is priceless

10:09 PM:      CreeD: yay new daioh

10:09 PM:   Moebius^: yeah, like she couldn't figure out what's missing from her

attair

10:10 PM:     Srider: wow, gonna check that new daioh out

10:10 PM:        rsw: ehh wha?

10:10 PM:        rsw: mac quake works fine

10:10 PM:        rsw: i just don't have your equivalent clients

10:10 PM:     Srider: mac quake is really nice.  Much better than I first

expected it to be

10:11 PM:        rsw: it's pretty much identical, 99.9999% of mods work

10:11 PM:      CreeD: -[ rsw ]- there's been some progress with opengl that it's

missed out, strictly from a graphical standpoint. Colored lighting eg

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10:12 PM:        rsw: that

10:12 PM:     shinra: whoa

10:12 PM:        rsw: 's a feature that's for your special client

10:12 PM:     shinra: what did almaci do?

10:12 PM:      CreeD: IS A GODDAMN SHAME!

10:12 PM: *** Signoff: ironpalm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

10:12 PM:        rsw: it does not mean it cannot work on mac

10:12 PM:     Srider: i don't like open gl

10:13 PM:     Srider: DX is better imo...

10:13 PM:     shinra: i would like a nice pog of that :)

10:13 PM:      CreeD: -[ rsw ]- it's opengl, several clients support it, but

none for mac :/

10:13 PM:     shinra: log

10:13 PM:      CreeD: £.o.£! dx quake

10:13 PM:        rsw: because it's not written in!

10:13 PM:      CreeD: I played that once

10:13 PM:      CreeD: it was horrrrriid

10:13 PM:     Srider: yeah

10:13 PM:     shinra: sorry for yesterday rich, my pc was acting up

10:13 PM:     Srider: DX  9 will phase out open gl hopefully..

10:13 PM:        rsw: don't equate surmoquake with winquake

10:14 PM:     shinra: direct x sucks

10:14 PM:      CreeD: -[ rsw ]- right, it's an opengl feature not written in for

any mac clients. Don't get all uppity, you clearly aren't gonna die without it.

10:14 PM:        rsw: or whatever the the most basic client you have

10:14 PM:      CreeD: -[ rsw ]- it's not just surmo, it's surmo and teiq and

recently zquake. Mqwcl accepts colored light code without error but doesn't

support lit files yet.

10:14 PM:        rsw: shin: it's ok, no one was up for it

10:15 PM:      CreeD: the basic client, glquake, doesn't support it yet, Yeah

10:15 PM:      CreeD: and surely never will

10:15 PM:     shinra: more quakeworld its the best, has anti cheats (sorta)

10:15 PM:      CreeD: they all have anti cheats, it's necessary for the client

to be generally accepted

10:15 PM:     shinra: http://hem.passagen.se/mjyyk/mqwcl/getstarted.html

10:15 PM:      CreeD: but Yeah mqwcl is the most popular

10:16 PM:      CreeD: due to the damn mvd support

10:16 PM:      CreeD: I wish other clients would support it, I like surmo a lot

better.

10:16 PM:        rsw: yes, you have clients i don't. they have not (and probably

won't be) been ported yet. but your original point was that mac doesn't have it

because it doesn't work

10:16 PM:        rsw: it's doesn't work because...i don't have the client

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10:17 PM:     shinra: mqw somehow its darker

10:17 PM:     shinra: couldnt even fix it

10:17 PM:     BMW_D2: but

10:17 PM:      CreeD: -[ rsw ]- IT WAS A JOKE YOU COCK JESUS CHRIST CALM THE

FUCK DOWN#!#@!# </rsw>

10:17 PM:     BMW_D2: almost all the programmers love opengl

10:17 PM:      CreeD: -[ shinra ]- gl_contrast 2

10:17 PM:     shinra: hmm

10:18 PM:        rsw: OKAY JESUS CHRIST FECKING KYE UIHduhj

10:18 PM:      CreeD: pojsldsjfgfdsg!#@$@

10:18 PM:     shinra: so it doesnt work with the toolbar? that sucks

10:18 PM:      CreeD: d00d

10:18 PM:     BMW_D2: and ati/nvidia are trying to make programming languages

proprietary, and card-specific

10:18 PM:      CreeD: -[ shinra ]- eh, there about 200 commands you can't access

with the options toolbar.

10:18 PM:      CreeD: stick it in your config and forget about it forever

10:21 PM:     shinra: aah damm

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10:27 PM:      dodee: yeah, nvidia's language there makes me scared

10:29 PM:     shinra: dodee, why was almaci banned?

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10:30 PM:     shinra: long story? send a log :)

10:30 PM:     shinra: hehe

10:30 PM:     shinra: im that bored

10:30 PM:      dodee: no log!

10:31 PM:     shinra: aaw

10:31 PM:      CreeD: -[ shinra ]- almaci: "yeah bush, smart, cut down trees to

prevent loss of forests"

10:31 PM:      CreeD: dodee "actually it's a fairly standard technique for blah

blah blah"

10:31 PM:     shinra: hahah

10:31 PM:      CreeD: almaci and dodee: blah blah blah! rah rah!

10:31 PM:     shinra: haha

10:31 PM:      CreeD: almaci: "LOL FUCKING CONVSERVATIVE MEDIA COCKSUCKER!"

10:31 PM:      dodee: almaci over simplified something in order to stereotype it

into bush being stupid, when for once he was smart.

10:31 PM:     shinra: sounds fun

10:32 PM:      CreeD: dodee:"banned"

10:32 PM: *** Omaha_Jef (rodnutzjr@AC9B6962.ipt.aol.com) has joined channel

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10:32 PM:     shinra: for ever?

10:32 PM:      dodee: then insisted on defending the basically indefensible in

the most ignorant, irrational, and foolish way possible

10:32 PM:      dodee: despite numerous warnings

10:32 PM:  Omaha_Jef: creed.... search was a NO GO... can ya hook me up?

10:33 PM: *** Mode change "+o ChoiBoy" on #vfhome by Reno-

10:33 PM:     Blond1: Shinz is making combo vids and they'll be on Tbzone very

soon.

10:33 PM:      dodee: did you play with DC yet?

10:33 PM:  Omaha_Jef: fuck Shinz!

10:34 PM:     Blond1: alright.

10:34 PM:     Blond1: just lettin ya'll know the up in the HIZOME.

10:34 PM:     Blond1: "THE VF HIZOME"

10:34 PM:  Omaha_Jef: just kidding man... shinz is cool :)

10:34 PM:     Blond1: =P

10:35 PM:     Blond1: Rodney fear me =P

10:35 PM:     Blond1: I'm gettin your Sarah by the pony-tail 

10:35 PM:     Blond1: Rough love style.

10:35 PM:     Blond1: =P

10:36 PM:  Omaha_Jef: Blond1: believe me man... i am no threat to you :(

10:36 PM:  Omaha_Jef: I am WEAK!

10:36 PM:  Omaha_Jef: but you should fear SAL!

10:36 PM:     Blond1: good, then I'll seeya later dude =), keep it real rodney.

laters =P

10:36 PM:  Omaha_Jef: his Kage is fierce heh

10:36 PM:   Insomn|a: korean combos are always fucked up

10:36 PM:  Omaha_Jef: later foolce

10:36 PM:   Insomn|a: they're never real combos

10:37 PM:  Omaha_Jef: aint that the truth!

10:37 PM:     Blond1: alright I'm off to watch "accidental spy" with Jackie

Chan!!! Yippie

10:37 PM:  Omaha_Jef: damn... for the love of GOD... and Jeffry.... I need creed

:(

10:37 PM:     Blond1: later guys.

10:38 PM:  Omaha_Jef: later foolce

10:38 PM: *** Signoff: Blond1 ()

10:38 PM:  Omaha_Jef: :(

10:39 PM:      CreeD: AIEEEE

10:39 PM:      CreeD: hi

10:39 PM:      CreeD: Yeah

10:39 PM:      CreeD: need a vid of the new throw or whatever?

10:39 PM:  Omaha_Jef: fuck yea :) please please please

10:39 PM:  Omaha_Jef: anything

10:40 PM:     shinra: hmm same here

10:40 PM:  Omaha_Jef: just wanna see him moving doing shit... stupid shit i dont

care

10:40 PM:      CreeD: sure

10:40 PM:      CreeD: did you see insomnia's Cool jeffry trick By The Way?

10:41 PM:  Omaha_Jef: No.. what trick

10:41 PM:   Insomn|a: yes

10:41 PM:   Insomn|a: it is MINE

10:41 PM:   Insomn|a: mine mine mine mine mine

10:41 PM:  Omaha_Jef: well what the fuck is it already

10:41 PM:  Omaha_Jef: lol

10:42 PM:   Insomn|a: go look on vfdc

10:42 PM:   Insomn|a: i don't feel like explaining it agian

10:42 PM:      CreeD: £.o.£!

10:42 PM:      CreeD: do the stance hit throw

10:42 PM:      CreeD: follow FAST with d+K+G

10:42 PM:  Omaha_Jef: where? could you be so kind as to hook a brodda up with a

link. i am to lazy to search man

10:42 PM:      CreeD: and it will cause crumple instead of a tech-able hit

10:42 PM:      CreeD: then you can pounce after the crumple

10:42 PM:      CreeD: 71 damage total

10:43 PM:  Omaha_Jef: eerrr thats not a new trick

10:43 PM:      CreeD: fuck you you never posted it before

10:43 PM:  Omaha_Jef: didn't see the point

10:43 PM:      CreeD: well then I guess you're just a smarty pants.

10:43 PM:      Reno-: CreeD: Do you remember the character rankings that came

from Japan? was it Lau, Akira, Lion and Jacky in that order?

10:44 PM:      CreeD: maybe you don't deserve to see the new throw.

10:44 PM:      CreeD: -[ Reno- ]- I remember one that had jeff in the top three

10:44 PM:      CreeD: like jeff and sarah

10:44 PM:      CreeD: I was like What The Fuck

10:44 PM:      CreeD: it was like lau sarah jeff

10:44 PM:  Omaha_Jef: i still like hit throw, b,f+k if they dont tech roll,

stomp, and sometimes you can stomp again if there lazy at recovering :)

10:44 PM:      CreeD: anyway search for rankings in vfdc

10:44 PM:      CreeD: £aff nobody's that retarded

10:45 PM:      CreeD: here ya go

10:45 PM:  Omaha_Jef: no no no please pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeassssee NEW THROW

10:45 PM:      CreeD: new jeff throw, not much else for jeff, but then there are

no decent jeff movies for evo at all

10:45 PM:  Omaha_Jef: YIPPPEEEEEEEEEEEE

10:45 PM:      CreeD: but you got the new thrizzow

10:45 PM:   Insomn|a: <Omaha_Jef> eerrr thats not a new trick

10:45 PM:  Omaha_Jef: WAHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

10:45 PM:   Insomn|a: yeah but i bet you didn't find it ALL BY YOURSELF like i

did

10:46 PM:      CreeD: Oh wait do you want a big file that has the throw plus the

intro stuff?

10:46 PM:      CreeD: or just a tiny one of only the throw?

10:46 PM:      CreeD: cuz I have that

10:46 PM:  Omaha_Jef: INSOM: I GIVE YOU CREDIT THERE.  I DIDN'T FIND IT.  LIKE

ALL THE THINGS THE NY PLAYERS KNOW.  HIRO TOLD ME

10:46 PM:  Omaha_Jef: what intro.  the evo intros.  i d/l them a few hours ago

10:47 PM:   Insomn|a: ahhhhh no caps

10:48 PM:   Insomn|a: blarg

10:48 PM:   Insomn|a: you capsed at me

10:48 PM:  Omaha_Jef: actually know that I think about it Insom.  if you look at

the replys that's on the disk itself.  they should you that in the second jeffry

clip

10:48 PM:     shinra: hmm that jeff thing is old

10:49 PM:  Omaha_Jef: show you... typo

10:49 PM:   Insomn|a: ok now you're making me cry

10:49 PM:  Omaha_Jef: yea it's on the vf disk itself

10:49 PM:     shinra: lol yeah

10:49 PM:  Omaha_Jef: check it and see if ya don't believe me

10:49 PM:   Insomn|a: i try to be original but fate always intervenes

10:49 PM:  Omaha_Jef: second jeff clip foolce

10:49 PM:  Omaha_Jef: first one is lau, not that one the other :)

10:49 PM:   Insomn|a: i found a bunch of julia shit in t4 but someone else

always found it first

10:49 PM:  Omaha_Jef: i think its lei

10:50 PM:   Insomn|a: julia and kuma

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10:50 PM:      CreeD: -[ Omaha_Jef ]- you got the evo intros?

10:50 PM:      CreeD: then you can see the new throw.

10:50 PM:  Omaha_Jef: heh well i found the first part to raiden's fatality in

MK2 and before I could figure it out by the next day, some asshole also found it

and figure it out and posted it all over the net :(

10:50 PM:    Ellinas: almaci is banned? what'd he do?

10:51 PM:  Omaha_Jef: Creed: ya

10:51 PM:      CreeD: here take this tiny one

10:51 PM:  Omaha_Jef: the brad one is cool, the goh one sucks sooooooo much

balls

10:51 PM:  Omaha_Jef: k i take i take 

10:51 PM:   Insomn|a: dude

10:51 PM:   Insomn|a: jeffry's got a CHOKESLAM now

10:51 PM:   Insomn|a: soooo badass

10:52 PM:  Omaha_Jef: hehe why do you think i am practically sucking on creed's

ballz right now... he is the only one that's got footage of it :)

10:52 PM:   Insomn|a: i wish he had more moves out of his stance but oh well

10:52 PM:  Omaha_Jef: *slurp slurp* eeewwwwwww hair ball 

10:53 PM:     shinra: hahaha

10:53 PM:   Insomn|a: i found out that if you're at the right distance, you do

stance as they do rising low attack, and your leg will lift up and their kick

will whiff, then you punish with K out of the stance

10:53 PM:   Insomn|a: useless but fun

10:53 PM:     shinra: too risky

10:54 PM:   Insomn|a: i'm just trying to be a good player

10:54 PM:   Insomn|a: and do cool shit

10:54 PM:   Insomn|a: with the character i like

10:54 PM:  Omaha_Jef: insom: you killing me man

10:54 PM:   Insomn|a: what is it now

10:55 PM:     shinra: haha

10:55 PM:  Omaha_Jef: lol that is something good to use ,but i would only try it

once every 20 matches... way to risky, it you want to use it, try do it way

early to sucker them into do a high rising attack

10:56 PM:  Omaha_Jef: then interupt with something big like knee

10:56 PM:   Insomn|a: that's why i said

10:56 PM:   Insomn|a: <Insomn|a> useless but fun

10:56 PM:  Omaha_Jef: i hear ya

10:56 PM:   Insomn|a: i know how to win with jeffry too

10:56 PM:   Insomn|a: i'm no scrub

10:56 PM:  Omaha_Jef: bah what am i talking about i dont even use jeff anymore

haha

10:56 PM:   Insomn|a: in fact i am downright VICIOUS

10:56 PM:   Insomn|a: fear my power

10:56 PM:  Omaha_Jef: cool

10:57 PM:     shinra: haha someone already "corrected" you in vfdc

10:57 PM:   Insomn|a: sgjak;sdgh;asg

10:58 PM:      CreeD: dskjfdsa;lgfjdsf;lkgjfdsg hahahahahaha

10:58 PM:   Insomn|a: wtf, piccolo says that u+k+g does more than u+p

10:59 PM:   Insomn|a: but those attacks do the same damage don't they

10:59 PM:   Insomn|a: i'm gonna reply to this ho

11:00 PM:      CreeD: he's dumb, he isn't reading right is all

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11:00 PM:   Insomn|a:

http://virtuafighter.com/versuscity/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=training&Number=

49899&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1&PHPSESSID=

11:03 PM:      CreeD: £.o.£!

11:03 PM:      CreeD: so a large pounce will hit after the foot crumple eh? rad.

11:03 PM:  jjcha-no5: lol

11:03 PM:  jjcha-no5: that's a joke right?

11:03 PM:      CreeD: that would jack damage up to something else.

11:04 PM:   Insomn|a: i thought large pounce did same damage as small pounce

11:04 PM:   Insomn|a: i will test right now

11:04 PM:   Insomn|a: like the crusader i am

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11:04 PM:      CreeD: it does more

11:04 PM:      CreeD: otherwise it wouldn't be slower and harder =)

11:04 PM:    CrewNYC: hahah whats the beef with almaci

11:05 PM:      CreeD: he was giving dodee shit

11:05 PM:    CrewNYC: creed you coming down this weekend?

11:05 PM:    CrewNYC: :)

11:05 PM:     shinra: <CreeD> he's dumb, he isn't reading right is all

11:05 PM:     shinra: who was dumb?

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11:06 PM:   Insomn|a: aha

11:06 PM:   Insomn|a: ahahaha

11:06 PM:   Insomn|a: i was right!

11:06 PM:      CreeD: shinra : I was assuming sal was, but he wasn't dumb

11:06 PM:   Insomn|a: piccolo was wrong!

11:06 PM:      CreeD: he was just being pompous

11:06 PM:      CreeD: som: Oh does it do same damage?!

11:06 PM:   Insomn|a: yes

11:07 PM:     shinra: he was wrong?

11:07 PM:     shinra: how?

11:07 PM:   Insomn|a: he said u+k+g does more than u+p

11:07 PM:   Insomn|a:

http://virtuafighter.com/versuscity/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=training&Number=

49901&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1&PHPSESSID=

11:08 PM:    CrewNYC: creed is ignoring ME!

11:08 PM:     shinra: how much damage it does?

11:08 PM:    CrewNYC: yo sal

11:08 PM:    CrewNYC: where is sal

11:08 PM:    CrewNYC: MAN that nigga never goes oN IRC!!!

11:08 PM:    CrewNYC: PUNK!

11:09 PM:      CreeD: Yeah because he's all sore at me

11:09 PM:      CreeD: he fronts like he's not, but every time he's on he's like

"I prefer IM where I'm free to be me"

11:09 PM:    CrewNYC: creed josh said he might be able to drive down here

11:09 PM:    CrewNYC: wanna come and play?

11:10 PM:   Insomn|a: well MY combo does 71

11:10 PM:   Insomn|a: HIS combo also does 71

11:10 PM:      CreeD: -[ CrewNYC ]- if I have work off

11:10 PM:     shinra: and his?

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11:10 PM:      CreeD: I just got hired pretty much

11:10 PM:   Insomn|a: so it is not better like he says

11:10 PM:      CreeD: som: ¯h ][ ¤ee

11:10 PM:   Insomn|a: it is a matter of preference

11:10 PM:      CreeD: yeh

11:10 PM:  Omaha_Jef: creed: can ya send again, i got d/c :(

11:10 PM:      CreeD: but that's odd, big butt pounce should do more

11:10 PM:    CrewNYC: cool

11:10 PM:    CrewNYC: hey rod

11:10 PM:      CreeD: -[ Omaha_Jef ]- you already got it

11:10 PM:      CreeD: it was tiny

11:10 PM:    CrewNYC: I sent josh a pm 

11:10 PM:      CreeD: like 700 K

11:10 PM:   Insomn|a: i will look at jeffry movelist right now

11:10 PM:      CreeD: Yeah josh the fucker

11:10 PM:    CrewNYC: to tell me by 4/5 tommorow afternoon or earlier

11:10 PM:    CrewNYC: so I can make plans to chill

11:10 PM:    CrewNYC: :)

11:11 PM:      CreeD: said he'd be around and wasn't

11:11 PM:      CreeD: hey wait isn't nygga3 like, in a week or two?

11:11 PM:  Omaha_Jef: o you stop the big one and sent the other.. heh silly me

11:11 PM:    CrewNYC: two weeks away

11:11 PM:  Omaha_Jef: hey Crew!

11:11 PM:    CrewNYC: two and a half 

11:11 PM:    CrewNYC: heh

11:11 PM:    CrewNYC: wassup rod

11:11 PM:    CrewNYC: yo you changed your cell?

11:11 PM:   Insomn|a: u+P and u+K+G are both 25 damage moves

11:11 PM:   Insomn|a: end of that discussion

11:12 PM:  Omaha_Jef: Crew: not yet... thinking about getting that new sprint

phone when it gets released!

11:12 PM:    CrewNYC: YEAH!

11:12 PM:    CrewNYC: kick ass

11:12 PM:    CrewNYC: no wait

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11:12 PM:    CrewNYC: get thge ericsson t68i

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11:12 PM:    CrewNYC: thats a COOL phone!

11:12 PM:   DevilRei: HI EVERYBODY

11:12 PM:    CrewNYC: small light and COLOR!

11:12 PM:    CrewNYC: :)

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11:13 PM:  Omaha_Jef: what's the difference?

11:13 PM:   DevilRei: ARE YOU ALL HAPPY TODAY!?@!#!

11:13 PM:    CrewNYC: ATT, Voicestream, and Cingular are gonna have it soon

11:13 PM:   Insomn|a: gimme piccolo's aim sn so i can mock him

11:13 PM:             DevilRei grins maniacally

11:13 PM:    CrewNYC: Omaha, its smaller than mine

11:13 PM:    CrewNYC: and newer

11:13 PM:    CrewNYC: :)

11:13 PM:  Omaha_Jef: same features as the samsung A500

11:13 PM:  Omaha_Jef: digital cam, games, etc

11:14 PM:    CrewNYC: yeah all that

11:14 PM:  Omaha_Jef: the A500 is pretty small too

11:14 PM:  Omaha_Jef: built in cam?

11:14 PM:   Insomn|a: to be fair to him, u+K+G is probably a safer followup

since it doesn't leave you susceptible to rising attacks

11:14 PM:    CrewNYC: Rodney: http://www.sonyericsson.com/us/spg.jsp?page=start

11:14 PM:    CrewNYC: no built in cam

11:14 PM:    CrewNYC: check out that phone

11:14 PM:   Insomn|a: unless you're really good at that type of oki

11:15 PM:  Omaha_Jef: where can I find a 

11:15 PM:    CrewNYC: I never saw the samsung one

11:15 PM:    CrewNYC: I have a Sanyo one

11:15 PM:  Omaha_Jef: hahah was just about to ask where to find it

11:15 PM:    CrewNYC: sanyo scp-5150

11:15 PM:    CrewNYC: yo rod

11:15 PM:    CrewNYC: who was that chubby guy last week

11:15 PM:      dodee: taht t68 looks like a girl's phone

11:15 PM:      CreeD: ¯h ][ ¤ee

11:15 PM:    CrewNYC: who played pai?

11:15 PM:    CrewNYC: changable covers

11:15 PM:  Omaha_Jef: check out the samsung one andy, just go to

www.sprintpcs.com and shop for phones

11:15 PM:    CrewNYC: its niiiiceeeeee

11:15 PM:      dodee: still looks like a girl's phone.

11:15 PM:   DevilRei: screw American cellphones

11:15 PM:      dodee: just he shape and stuff

11:15 PM:  Omaha_Jef: crew: dunno

11:16 PM:  Omaha_Jef: what's nice

11:16 PM:    CrewNYC: its HOT

11:16 PM:    CrewNYC: or get a scp-5150

11:16 PM:  Omaha_Jef: what?

11:16 PM:    CrewNYC: you can get one around $80 bux today

11:16 PM:  Omaha_Jef: ooo the phone

11:16 PM:  Omaha_Jef: maybe but i am so sold on that A500

11:17 PM:  Omaha_Jef: it looks phat as hell man

11:17 PM:  Omaha_Jef: big screen too

11:17 PM:  Omaha_Jef: creed: i can't play this file

11:17 PM:    CrewNYC: yeah that a500

11:17 PM:  Omaha_Jef: it's not supported, god i hate this fucking computer

because i have no clue what it needs

11:17 PM:    CrewNYC: is like mine

11:17 PM:    CrewNYC: same thing but newer

11:17 PM:      CreeD: jef: get the latest divx

11:17 PM:  Omaha_Jef: i know

11:17 PM:    CrewNYC: more features probably

11:18 PM:      CreeD: www.divx.com/divx

11:18 PM:  Omaha_Jef: that's why i thought you had it

11:18 PM:  Omaha_Jef: thanks creed! you da man

11:18 PM:    CrewNYC: nah mine is sanyo scp-5150

11:18 PM:  Omaha_Jef: oooo

11:18 PM:      CreeD: £.o.£! jesus

11:18 PM:  Omaha_Jef: well i am gonna get that A500 and the digital cam for it

11:18 PM:      CreeD: they gave lau wolf's b+P

11:18 PM:      CreeD: and it prolly hits mid

11:19 PM:      CreeD: and guarantees PPPK even vs. heavies

11:19 PM:  Omaha_Jef: hahaha probably

11:19 PM:      CreeD: and I love the frigging speaR!

11:19 PM:    CrewNYC: is the digital cam built in?

11:19 PM:      CreeD: gonna be all over lau

11:19 PM:  Omaha_Jef: i saw that in one of the clips

11:19 PM:    CrewNYC: what spear?

11:19 PM:  Omaha_Jef: what BS, as though he needs it

11:19 PM:  Omaha_Jef: crew: no :(

11:19 PM:    CrewNYC: I aint seen no spear

11:20 PM:    CrewNYC: yo rod, you think I can play shun seriously at NYG3?

11:20 PM:    CrewNYC: im having doubts...

11:20 PM:  Omaha_Jef: check the site andy, it's just a small cam pocket size

that connects right to the phone

11:20 PM:    CrewNYC: lemme see

11:20 PM:    CrewNYC: I saw the 3d pic

11:20 PM:  Omaha_Jef: Crew: against mid level comp YES, higher, NO

11:20 PM:    CrewNYC: I dont see the cam

11:21 PM:  Omaha_Jef: look on the bottom somewhere its their

11:21 PM:  Omaha_Jef: just as small as the phone

11:21 PM:    CrewNYC: nice phone

11:21 PM:    CrewNYC: if its cheap

11:21 PM:    CrewNYC: get it!

11:21 PM:  Omaha_Jef: or click on PCS VISION

11:21 PM:    CrewNYC: :)

11:21 PM:  Omaha_Jef: 300 :(

11:21 PM:  Omaha_Jef: cam is 100 with 30 rebate

11:22 PM:    CrewNYC: ouch

11:22 PM:    CrewNYC: order one online

11:22 PM:  Omaha_Jef: but i am gonna get my friend to get me the phone, he works

at radio shack and can get a 25% disc.

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11:22 PM:  Omaha_Jef: but i have to wait about a month, becuase they are not

allowed to buy them right off the bat :(

11:23 PM:  Omaha_Jef: but its cool i can wait a month or two

11:23 PM:   Insomn|a: <CrewNYC> yo rod, you think I can play shun seriously at

NYG3?

11:23 PM:   Insomn|a: if shun is your favorite character

11:23 PM:   Insomn|a: go for it and kick some ass

11:23 PM:   Insomn|a: don't worry about tiers or whatnot

11:23 PM:  Omaha_Jef: it's not his favorite char 

11:23 PM:   Insomn|a: oh

11:24 PM:  Omaha_Jef: that's why he asked, he wants to play for fun with him,

but effectively of coarse :)

11:24 PM:    CrewNYC: hmm amazon doesnt have it

11:24 PM:    CrewNYC: it must be really new

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11:24 PM:    CrewNYC: yeah I lost bad

11:24 PM:    CrewNYC: been practicing him alot though

11:25 PM:    CrewNYC: dodge, k, k, d+p, k

11:25 PM:    CrewNYC: is great...

11:26 PM:  Omaha_Jef: crew: it hasn't been released yet, any day now

11:26 PM:      Myke`: sick combo

11:26 PM:      CreeD: Yeah that fucking thing

11:26 PM:      CreeD: can't be dodged, hops clean over low attacks including low

punches

11:26 PM:      CreeD: might as well throw it out completely at random ;)

11:26 PM:    CrewNYC: yo wtf is the diff between u+k+g and u+k

11:26 PM:      CreeD: for shun?

11:26 PM:    CrewNYC: well if l+p hits I thikn the mule kick is guranteed

11:27 PM:      Myke`: no difference

11:27 PM:    CrewNYC: yup 

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11:27 PM:    CrewNYC: I thought so

11:27 PM:    CrewNYC: why the two commands then

11:27 PM:      Myke`: ask sega

11:27 PM:      CreeD: u+KG maybe ensures no hopkicks I guess

11:27 PM:    CrewNYC: stupid shit

11:27 PM:        kil: hey everyone who's going 2 e7?

11:27 PM:    CrewNYC: maybe they got lazy

11:27 PM:    CrewNYC: and were gonna put in a new move

11:27 PM:    CrewNYC: heh

11:28 PM:    CrewNYC: u+kg should be a faster one

11:28 PM:    CrewNYC: with longer recovery

11:28 PM:    CrewNYC: like pai's d/b+k+g, and d+k+g

11:28 PM:      Myke`: lots of stuff feels unfinished in ver.b,c

11:28 PM:    CrewNYC: creed yeah I would throw it  out in random

11:28 PM:    CrewNYC: if I has the 16 drinks I thkn you need

11:28 PM:    CrewNYC: thats tough

11:29 PM:    CrewNYC: if I break 10 brinks im happy

11:30 PM:    CrewNYC: i'm copying Shu's shun pretty much

11:30 PM:      CreeD: strange, it seems to me like a shun who's truly determined

to play machi can get it pretty easily... I played josh recently, whose shun

isn't spectacular, and he still did b+dodge, drink many times without me being

able to catch him

11:30 PM:      CreeD: I was resorting to shit like wolf's u/f+K to nail it

11:31 PM:    CrewNYC: yo have to hit shun during the drink animation

11:31 PM:    CrewNYC: do a low kick

11:31 PM:      CreeD: Yeah but I mean he's 3/4ths' of a ring away, I'm

constantly running forward =)

11:31 PM:    CrewNYC: ohhh

11:31 PM:    CrewNYC: yeah play close

11:31 PM:    CrewNYC: most shun should get is 3 drinks at that distance

11:31 PM:      CreeD: the dodge back is quick, he can get two of those out

before I can get close with f,f ... I suppose I should get used to f,F

11:32 PM:      CreeD: that's where I really miss E, I love F+E to run

11:32 PM:    CrewNYC: yeah

11:32 PM:    CrewNYC: I like shun

11:33 PM:    CrewNYC: im clicking with him

11:33 PM:    CrewNYC: so many moves to pick from

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11:34 PM:    CrewNYC: really all of them seem very useful

11:35 PM:    CrewNYC: is d/f+pg chowan backfist, d+p, d/b+k, k guaranteed?

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11:36 PM:      CreeD: I've eaten it a lot, I think so

11:36 PM:      CreeD: where would it break?

11:37 PM:    CrewNYC: ot seems that the d/b+k is bouncing off the ground

11:38 PM:      CreeD: ¯h ][ ¤ee

11:38 PM:      CreeD: Yeah that can prolly be stopped, use PS2 and set it to TR

11:39 PM:     shinra: wheres that jeff movie with choke?

11:40 PM:      Myke`: the choke can be seen in the intro

11:40 PM:     shinra: thas some sall movie haha

11:40 PM:     shinra: small

11:40 PM:     shinra: yah but i want it in game..

11:40 PM:      Myke`: i don't remember where i saw it

11:40 PM:   Insomn|a: well too bad, stupid japs don't use jeffry

11:40 PM:   Insomn|a: their loss

11:41 PM:      Myke`: "stupid japs" ?

11:41 PM:   Insomn|a: yes

11:41 PM:   Insomn|a: they are stupid for not using jeffry

11:41 PM:      Myke`: just because nobody has captured jeffry players yet, makes

you think they don't play him at all?

11:42 PM:      Myke`: you're so narrow minded

11:42 PM:   Insomn|a: because nobody's captured jeffry players yet

11:42 PM:   Insomn|a: all i see is lau and jacky

11:42 PM:   Insomn|a: lau and jacky

11:42 PM:   Insomn|a: LAU AND JACKY

11:42 PM:      Myke`: so what

11:42 PM:   Insomn|a: so that's a good indicator of what characters are popular

over there and which ones aren't

11:42 PM:      CreeD: chibita has 1500 games but they've only captured a TOTAL

of maybe 100 movies spread across dozens of players.

11:42 PM:      Myke`: they're the characters of choice for those guys who

currently can capture movies

11:42 PM:      Myke`: what are you gonna do about it?

11:42 PM:   Insomn|a: i am gonna call them stupid

11:42 PM:   Insomn|a: obviously

11:43 PM:      Myke`: no it's not a good indicator

11:43 PM:      Myke`: again, you think japanese players owe you something

11:43 PM:   Insomn|a: they do

11:43 PM:   Insomn|a: i'm their god

11:43 PM:      CreeD: also they capture the flashier characters, jeff doesn't

have much room to show off. Even before evo, there was a ratio of 100 akira

movies to 70 jacky movies to 2 jeff movies.

11:43 PM:      Myke`: not everyone has the ability to capture movies

11:43 PM:  jjcha-no5: why do we tolerate idiots?

11:44 PM:      Myke`: insomnia, even if by some chance you're joking, you're not

funny at all

11:44 PM:      CreeD: he's only idiotic sometime.

11:44 PM:      CreeD: +s

11:44 PM:   Insomn|a: well screw you too myke and jjcha0daghkldhg whatever

11:44 PM:      Myke`: way to go

11:44 PM:      CreeD: seriously insom, you probably at the very least want to

drop the "i am the stupid japs god"

11:44 PM:  jjcha-no5: i have yet to see an instance otherwise

11:44 PM:      CreeD: because surprise, there are some japanese ppl in here.

11:45 PM:   Insomn|a: you're all too sensitive

11:45 PM:      CreeD: even if people can easily tell you're joking, it's still

offensive.

11:45 PM:   Insomn|a: shrug

11:45 PM:  jjcha-no5: no 

11:45 PM:      CreeD: you shouldn't fuck with people without a reason.

11:45 PM:   Insomn|a: observe as i fail to care

11:45 PM:  jjcha-no5: you're too stupid

11:45 PM:      Myke`: how predictable

11:45 PM:      Myke`: now we're the insensitive ones

11:45 PM:      CreeD: -[ Insomn|a ]- you have to care if you want to chat here

:/

11:45 PM:      Myke`: of course it was all a joke

11:45 PM:   Insomn|a: then get it over with and ban me

11:45 PM:      Myke`: we have no sense of humour

11:45 PM:   Insomn|a: i'm not gonna play this stupid little game

11:45 PM:     shinra: i smell a ban!

11:45 PM:     shinra: haha

11:46 PM:  Omaha_Jef: i just tripped on a ban! 

11:46 PM:      CreeD: -[ Insomn|a ]- the only game people are asking you to play

is to be civil and at LEAST drop the racial slurs

11:46 PM:  Omaha_Jef: damn it

11:46 PM:   Insomn|a: i didn't make a racial slur

11:46 PM:  Omaha_Jef: indeed!

11:46 PM:   Insomn|a: japs is short for japanese

11:46 PM:   Insomn|a: #capcom uses it all the time

11:46 PM:   Insomn|a: so i do too

11:46 PM:      CreeD: sure, and kike is an easier way to say korean.

11:46 PM:  jjcha-no5: oh yes

11:46 PM:   Insomn|a: if you think it's a slur, OH WELL

11:46 PM:  Omaha_Jef: stipid foolce stupid

11:47 PM:      CreeD: -[ Insomn|a ]- me and about 93248083 other americans

11:47 PM:  jjcha-no5: that surely is a reference to authority if 'ive ever seen

one

11:47 PM:      CreeD: just because capcom uses it doesn't mean it's commonly

used in speech

11:47 PM:     Srider: well.. lots of japanese people take it as a racial slur

11:47 PM:      CreeD: try calling a few japanese people japs to their face irl

and watch the reaction.

11:47 PM:  jjcha-no5: i don't see why we bother amusing him either by responding

to his antics

11:48 PM:  Omaha_Jef: SIGH

11:48 PM:     Srider: it just depends if they care..

11:48 PM:  Omaha_Jef: this is gonna be a long one!

11:48 PM:      CreeD: I dunno, I always hold out hope ppl will smarten up, shrug

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11:49 PM:   Insomn|a: i'm probably the smartest person in the room

11:49 PM:      Myke`: sigh

11:49 PM:      Myke`: i won't bother

11:49 PM:     baobab: hello

11:49 PM:      Myke`: hey bao

11:49 PM:  Omaha_Jef: howdy!

11:50 PM:      CreeD: heh I dunno, we have me, and a harvard law grad, and a

programmer... that's a stretch. But Yeah, why bother. Smart doesn't prevent

anyone from being a dip

11:50 PM:     baobab: i second that insomnia is second smartest ameoba in the

world

11:50 PM:     baobab: OJ!!

11:50 PM:    CrewNYC: +

11:51 PM:  Omaha_Jef: sup

11:51 PM:     baobab: are you playing VF again OJ?

11:51 PM:   Insomn|a: look i'm sorry you all think that jap is a racial slur, i

don't, but i'll stop saying it in here

11:51 PM:  Omaha_Jef: not really! last time i did i got beat up pretty badly in

CTF

11:52 PM:     baobab: oj: ???

11:52 PM:  Omaha_Jef: andy and his shun, well his anybody lol

11:52 PM:     baobab: andy mentioned something about eric(the pai player) being

there too

11:52 PM:      CreeD: -[ Insomn|a ]- thanks for not saying it. I'm not trying to

be a bitch, but you can't say "I don't think it's a slur so it's not"... that

wouldn't work for polack, kike, or chink right? ... seriously, you should ask

some japanese people.

11:53 PM:   Insomn|a: well i don't use it as a slur, just an abbreviation

11:53 PM:      Myke`: "stupid japs"

11:54 PM:      CreeD: sure, I can buy that. but you can see how someone might

get the wrong impression when you use "stupid" with a known slur.

11:54 PM:    CrewNYC: actually 

11:54 PM:    CrewNYC: my take on it is the TONE you say JAP

11:54 PM:     baobab: yeah an abbreviation...like polack

11:54 PM:    CrewNYC: its like NIGGA

11:54 PM:      Myke`: didn't hold a shred of positive connotation

11:54 PM:    CrewNYC: I say nigga all the timer

11:54 PM:    CrewNYC: to black people

11:54 PM:    CrewNYC: white people

11:54 PM:      CreeD: Oh jesus crew this isn't the same thing

11:54 PM:    CrewNYC: but its my tone

11:54 PM:    CrewNYC: that you can tell whether its nigger slur or nigga my

brother

11:54 PM:      Myke`: crew offends me no matter what his tone :P

11:55 PM:   Insomn|a: IT'S IRC

11:55 PM:   Insomn|a: I DON'T HAVE A TONE

11:55 PM:    CrewNYC: you cant tell in typing what insomnia means

11:55 PM:      CreeD: nigga's gained common acceptance in everyday speech as a

slang word, thanks to rap and other stuff. but no japanese-produced writing or

music has japanese people referring to themselves as 'japs' just as a slang

thing

11:55 PM:    CrewNYC: so he should clear it up

11:55 PM:    CrewNYC: or avoid using it

11:55 PM:      CreeD: and I can't imagine people saying "sup jap" the way you

might say 'sup nigga' to me

11:55 PM:  jjcha-no5: who cares?

11:55 PM:  jjcha-no5: the guy's obviously an idiot

11:55 PM:  jjcha-no5: someone just kickban him and we'll be done with it

11:55 PM: *** Mode change "+o baobab" on #vfhome by rsw

11:55 PM: *** Mode change "+o DevilRei" on #vfhome by rsw

11:55 PM: *** Mode change "+o jjcha-no5" on #vfhome by rsw

11:55 PM: *** Mode change "+o Myke`" on #vfhome by rsw

11:55 PM:     baobab: thanks rich

11:55 PM: *** Mode change "-b *!*@*.be" on #vfhome by CreeD

11:56 PM: *** Mode change "+b *!*@ip68-11-244-3.br.no.cox.net" on #vfhome by

jjcha-no5

11:56 PM: *** Mode change "-b *!*@232.55*" on #vfhome by CreeD

11:56 PM:  jjcha-no5: ah

11:56 PM:  jjcha-no5: damn

11:56 PM:      CreeD: that was unrelated cha

11:56 PM:  jjcha-no5: lets try that again

11:56 PM:  jjcha-no5: nod

11:56 PM:      CreeD: letting al back in

11:56 PM:     baobab: who banned al?

11:56 PM:      Myke`: <Insomn|a> well too bad, stupid japs don't use jeffry

11:56 PM:        rsw: dodee

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jjcha-no5

11:56 PM:        rsw: god i hate skunks

11:56 PM:      CreeD: they must hit you like once a week

11:56 PM:        rsw: more like every other night

11:56 PM:      Myke`: now try to tell me there was no tone in that

11:57 PM:  jjcha-no5: hmm guess he shut up..

11:57 PM:        rsw: and this one was close

11:57 PM:        rsw: my eyes are watering

11:57 PM:    CrewNYC: creed

11:57 PM:      dodee: "jap" isn't even comparable to "nigga"

11:57 PM:    CrewNYC: thats true

11:57 PM:        rsw: summah uses jap

11:57 PM:    CrewNYC: I never heard somsone say SUP my JAP

11:57 PM:    CrewNYC: like sup my nigga

11:57 PM:      CreeD: -[ Myke` ]- it's true that ppl in capcom use japs just

because they're too lazy to type it out, and we've seen it on VFDC from people

with limited english who didn't know it was a slur... so I can baaaarely buy

that it was an abbr. despite the unfortunate juxtaposition

11:58 PM:      CreeD: Yeah summah does

11:58 PM:    CrewNYC: I seem to recall me having this argument with rich

11:58 PM:        rsw: jap isn't considered an insult by many asians, other than

japanese

11:58 PM:      CreeD: but insom was prolly born in america otoh

11:58 PM:    CrewNYC: a few years back

11:58 PM:    CrewNYC: or some dude on hardcore gaming

11:58 PM:  jjcha-no5: to be quite honest

11:58 PM:        rsw: crew: you're having an acid flashback

11:58 PM:     shinra: i think jap is fine, it is really easy to type

11:58 PM:        rsw: because i never did

11:58 PM:      dodee: if you're shortening "japanese" say "jap."

11:58 PM:     shinra: all it matters is the tone you say it

11:58 PM:  jjcha-no5: i don't know many japanese who find the term jap to be

offensive... mainly older japanese americans...

11:58 PM:    CrewNYC: no really...it was some flame on VFDC

11:58 PM:      CreeD: I don't like it only because I've grown up hearing it as a

slur

11:58 PM:    CrewNYC: and I flamed the person for using jap

11:59 PM:    CrewNYC: it went on for a while

11:59 PM:      Myke`: creed, i'm not isolating the use of the word 'jap' in this

case. it was his whole attitude toward the japanese which i found stupid

11:59 PM:      CreeD: Yeah, butI think had any other race been the primary

source of evo movies and then if that race had made little or no jeffry stuff,

he'd say the same thing

11:59 PM:    CrewNYC: rich you should stop using all the drug references...

11:59 PM:    CrewNYC: you seem to know your drugs very well

11:59 PM:    CrewNYC: :)

11:59 PM:      CreeD: wasn't really personal towards japanese

12:00 AM:      Myke`: creed i agree

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12:00 AM:     Almaci: Thanks

12:00 AM:      CreeD: sure al

12:00 AM:     baobab: again...why was almaci banned?

12:01 AM:        rsw: bao: snit with dodee

12:01 AM:      CreeD: -[ baobab ]- he made a remark about bush's forestry plan

being dumb, dodee disagreed, they snitted a while, then he typed something sorta

insulting all in caps

12:01 AM:     Almaci: At the risk off being banned again, becouse dodee feels

that when im arguing with him I shouldnt bring other stuff in to build on my

argument

12:01 AM:        rsw: bao: think of any of my bitchfests with creed or others

12:01 AM:        rsw: same old shit

12:01 AM:      dodee: you really wanna start this again?

12:01 AM:     baobab: bush's forestry plan is dumb

12:01 AM:        rsw: yes, yes it is. very dumb

12:01 AM:      dodee: I told you three fucking times to keep the argument

centered

12:01 AM:     baobab: we're gonna cut down trees to save our forests

12:02 AM:      Myke`: bush's eyes are too close together

12:02 AM:      dodee: argghhhhh.

12:02 AM:     Almaci: Wich I tried to do 

12:02 AM:        rsw: when i saw the fucking chimp making his speech, i actually

yelled at the screen i was so fucking pissed

12:02 AM:      dodee: ok, how many of you people are even remotely aware of

forestry related issues?

12:02 AM:        rsw: bush is such worthless trash

12:02 AM:      CreeD: -[ Almaci ]- you should be smarter than this. If you say

something all in caps or call people names, you're not arguing intelligently

12:02 AM:      CreeD: you're not "bringing in other stuff"

12:02 AM:      dodee: bush is an idiot, and how he pitched it is also stupid,

the plan itself is not. get it straight.

12:02 AM:     baobab: i canunderstand clearing away brush and other kindling,

but removing large trees is not smart

12:02 AM:      CreeD: you're just yelling and insulting, calling dodee a crazy

liberal or stuffy conservative or whatever you said

12:02 AM:    CrewNYC: BURN ALL THE FORESTS! BUILD SKY SCRAPPERS! and oxygen

machines!

12:03 AM:             CrewNYC senses a drug comment coming

12:03 AM:      dodee: thinning trees, even large trees is absolutely necessary

for healthy forests other than the truly ancient ones

12:03 AM:        rsw: sssnngghhh

12:03 AM:      dodee: esp when civilization nearby is factored in

12:03 AM:     baobab: dodee: and you think logging companies give a shit about

what they cut down?

12:03 AM:      Myke`: here we go.

12:03 AM:        rsw: yeah whatever. what right wing web page did you get your

"facts" from?

12:03 AM:      dodee: yes, because the plan isn't clearcutting, it's selective

cutting

12:03 AM:     baobab: fuck all they want is old growth shit, brings in the most

money

12:04 AM:      dodee: clearcutting on land that isn't privately owned has been

illegal since like forever

12:04 AM:        rsw: because it's not like forests couldn't get along by

themselves until humans came along

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12:04 AM:        rsw: NO SIREEBOB!

12:04 AM:     baobab: 'selective cutting' that's funny...

12:04 AM:      CreeD: logging companies do have a vested interest in what they

cut down. If a forest fire consumes 100 acres of land, the loggers are just as

sad as the environmentalists.

12:04 AM:      dodee: all they want and all they are allowed to take are

entirely differen

12:04 AM:      CreeD: they want to have growth so they have something to reap

profits from later.

12:04 AM:     baobab: creed: yeah they are, just for different reasons

12:05 AM:      dodee: sierra club and other wacko groups are passing it off like

it'd give logging companies free reign

12:05 AM:      dodee: and it doesnt

12:05 AM:  jjcha-no5: hmm

12:05 AM:      CreeD: -[ baobab ]- sure

12:05 AM:        rsw: wacko groups aahHAHahaH

12:05 AM:     Fishie: Hrm, need a new dsl modem soon

12:05 AM:     baobab: logging companies already break the law dodee

12:05 AM:      dodee: lots of companies break laws, how's that relate?

12:05 AM:     baobab: don't make me find links

12:05 AM:  jjcha-no5: it does look bad, especially considering how cynical

people are about bush's stance on corporate interests and the environment..

12:05 AM:    CrewNYC: vfhome has become a politics discussion group

12:05 AM:  jjcha-no5: the press that is..

12:05 AM:      dodee: how they break laws has shit to do with the proposition

itself

12:05 AM:     baobab: just you have an industry that already doesn't really give

a shit about regulations, so you loosen them

12:05 AM:     Fishie: dodee the isseu they have is the fact that liscences to

cut timber are easier to get and harder to fight

12:05 AM:     baobab: that's stupid

12:06 AM:    CrewNYC: man

12:06 AM:      dodee: all the big industries do it

12:06 AM:    CrewNYC: Bloomberg should just become president

12:06 AM:      dodee: logging isn't special

12:06 AM:        rsw: yes. which makes it right?

12:06 AM:      dodee: that issue has zilch to do with this proposition

12:06 AM:      dodee: all it does is say "you're allowed to take x amount of

trees from y areas"

12:06 AM:    CrewNYC: you all belong on CNN

12:06 AM:             DevilRei notes that this is about a 5 to one argument

12:06 AM:      CreeD: I think it's conceivable that logging companies would want

whatever is best to encourage forest growth, even tho their job it so cut down

trees.... just like meat processing plants are fine with any hormones or

breeding techniques that will produce more and bigger cows

12:06 AM:     Fishie: And like I said Bush got a million from the logging

industry, he is just repaying what the lobby payed him for

12:06 AM:        rsw: as it often is with dodee

12:07 AM:        rsw: hence the "beatdown"

12:07 AM:     Fishie: A job just like the favours he did for his good friend

Kenneth Lay etcetera

12:07 AM:      dodee: any article or whatever your read on this has people in

forestry on both sides arguing it

12:07 AM:     baobab: creed: at the expense of not really knowing what those

hormones do to people

12:07 AM:      dodee: so it isn't as cut and dried as you all would like to

paint it

12:07 AM:      dodee: it's not perfect, but at the VERY least it's bringing up

an issue that shoulda been brought up before yellowstone burned

12:07 AM:     baobab: yeah dodee, it really is...forests have done fine for

MILLIONS of years without our management, why does it need it now?

12:08 AM:      dodee: because for millions of years forests didn't have large

communities in and on top of them

12:08 AM:   DevilRei: The only reason people are in danger is because they build

in stupid places.

12:08 AM:      dodee: I'm not saying it's 100% RIGHT, I'm saying it's necessary

12:08 AM:   DevilRei: Like the dipshits which STILL insist in living on

hurricane prone land.

12:08 AM:      CreeD: -[ baobab ]- eh, I've been eating meat for years and I'm

fine. But that's another topic. The effect of cutting X trees to encourage

forest growth is pretty well defined, I doubt there will be unforseeable

consequences to it.

12:08 AM:      dodee: same thing with fucking tornadoes and floods

12:08 AM:     baobab: oh yeah, mebbe 'cause we've fucked up the rest of our

forests so much that we have to really defend the like 1% that's left :P

12:08 AM:      dodee: people INSIST on living there

12:08 AM:   DevilRei: And then ask for compensation afterwards

12:08 AM:      CreeD: you might bite off more or less than is optimal

12:09 AM:      dodee: and the amount of deforestation that has REALLY occurred

is being greatly contested recently

12:09 AM:      dodee: and not just by equally-wacko right wing groups

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12:09 AM:     baobab: yeah being contested like 'global warming'

12:09 AM:      dodee: the most recent national geo talks about how especially in

the rainforest, estimates were off by as uch as 75%

12:09 AM:      CreeD: funny uou say that bao

12:09 AM:      CreeD:

http://go.fark.com/cgi/fark/go.pl?IDLink=279248&location=http://www.space.com/

scienceastronomy/antarctic_020822.html

12:10 AM:     Fishie: dodee yeah contested by a small minority of scientists who

just happen to be on the payrolls of the companies who gain by theyre

disagreements with popular belief among theyre peers

12:10 AM:      CreeD: but that's a fark link so its veracity is VIOLENTLY

suspect

12:10 AM:      dodee: fishie, drop the conspiracy theory shit

12:10 AM:      dodee: that's how you got started this afternoon

12:10 AM:     Fishie: dodee again no conspiracies, its all out in the open

12:10 AM:      dodee: yeah, national geographic was bought off

12:10 AM:      dodee: idiot

12:10 AM:     Srider: what did you guys do to crewnyc now..

12:10 AM:     Srider: lol

12:10 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: woo someone is talking bout forestry

12:10 AM: *** Signoff: Almaci (Dead socket)

12:11 AM:      dodee: oops

12:11 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: you freaking US protectionist whores :)

12:11 AM:             HeaTrnsfr grins giddily

12:11 AM:   DevilRei: It's like the scientists who testified that smoking really

ISN'T addicitive and bad for you all those years back

12:11 AM:    CrewNYC: heat..

12:11 AM:        rsw: heat: we're not all bad, more than a few are disgusted

with ourselves

12:11 AM:    CrewNYC: no its YOU WHORES

12:11 AM:    CrewNYC: leave the rest out

12:11 AM:      CreeD: now now let's not use names dodee.

12:11 AM:      dodee: maine is one of the largest logging states and has been

historically, the concensus here, even from people like park ranger-types is

that it's absolutely necessary

12:11 AM:   DevilRei: Who were all on the RJ Reynolds and such payroll

12:12 AM:      dodee: the ONLY people that are dead-set against it are

treehuggers

12:12 AM:        rsw: snort

12:12 AM:     Fishie: Dodee dammit IM NOT AGAINST IT

12:12 AM:    CrewNYC: night

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12:12 AM:        rsw: are you quoting this from some site? "gotta find pro-bush

plan site! help me, google!"

12:12 AM:     baobab: dodee: i agree to a certain extent, clearing brush and

small trees is necessary, but chopping down the big trees which don't burn

easily is dumb

12:12 AM:      Myke`: still going on?

12:12 AM:      Myke`: wow

12:12 AM:     shinra: could we just idle alone

12:12 AM:      dodee: the ONLY thing I'm discussing is the validity of the plan,

not the shit behind it

12:12 AM:        rsw: since when did you become the forestry expert?

12:13 AM:             DevilRei prods CreeD with a stick.

12:13 AM:      CreeD: that mcafrika burger looks gooood ... wish they'd keep it

and maybe start it up here in the states

12:13 AM:      dodee: I'm not a forestry expert, but it's been talked about a

lot here

12:13 AM:     Fishie: Im against the relaxation of laws that give logging

liscenses, and against the tightening of laws allowing people to contest some of

those liscenses

12:13 AM:      dodee: cause maine is, I repeat, a huge forestry state

12:13 AM:     baobab: creed: that's what i thought too :P

12:13 AM:        rsw: did you read this from some random sites with some random

figures and stats and quotes?

12:13 AM:   Insomn|a: i'm glad the conversation has turned from people being

pissed at me over an abbreviation

12:13 AM:      CreeD: Yeah they do discuss the shit to death on tv and in

newspapers there

12:13 AM:  jjcha-no5: rei: how many more days?

12:13 AM:      CreeD: -[ Insomn|a ]- heh

12:13 AM:   DevilRei: 9

12:14 AM:        rsw: creed: and come to nothing. it's so polarized

12:14 AM:      dodee: rich, dont get snitty, I'm telling you the general

atmosphere, I'm not quoting

12:14 AM:  jjcha-no5: woo hoo!

12:14 AM:     shinra: ins: he replied again

12:14 AM:  jjcha-no5: less than double digits

12:14 AM:   DevilRei: yes XD

12:14 AM:  jjcha-no5: wow i'm so happy for you 

12:14 AM:  jjcha-no5: start a blog!

12:14 AM:  jjcha-no5: there is this total english japan related blog community

12:15 AM:     Fishie:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/08/22/cat.killing.ap/index.html

12:15 AM:        rsw: my area was completely de-forested about 100-150 years

ago. i mean there was just NOTHING but meadows, it was completely gone, sent to

nyc

12:15 AM:      dodee: and yeah they have to tread lightly with licensing, but

its either that or spend hundreds of millions of dollars do it through the

government

12:15 AM:     Fishie: Sigh

12:15 AM:        rsw: and you can still tell, because there are very very few

large trees

12:15 AM:      CreeD: -[ rsw ]- well my impression matched dodees, that there's

more pro-forestry than anything, and that it's rare to see anyone come utterly

against it. The debates pretty much rage over a matter of degrees... x acres

here, not y acres there

12:15 AM:   DevilRei: I have LJ

12:15 AM:   DevilRei: I'm not much for active blogging

12:15 AM:  jjcha-no5: LJ is good

12:16 AM:      dodee: there will be no clearcutting from it

12:16 AM:      dodee: so goddamn reactionary

12:16 AM:     shinra: could we just idle alone

12:16 AM:      Reno-: I have LJ too, but i rarely use it

12:16 AM:  jjcha-no5: http://www.jjcha.net/blog/images/citylights1.jpg

12:16 AM:  jjcha-no5: =)

12:16 AM:      CreeD: I got it from a prostitute.

12:16 AM:     baobab: again, why do we need to cut down big trees while pulling

out the brush and small trees that are effectivley the 'kindling'?

12:16 AM:      CreeD: What The Fuck you got a blog too? jesus

12:16 AM:      dodee: because there have to be some perks to get the big

companies in there to do the dirty work for you

12:17 AM:      dodee: they aren't getting carte blanche

12:17 AM:  jjcha-no5: i love living in SF..

12:17 AM:      dodee: but they'll be granted a certain volume of large trees

that can be taken to make it worth their while

12:17 AM:      CreeD: man you've been hiding cha.net you bastard

12:17 AM:      CreeD: how much space do you get on that thing?

12:17 AM:      dodee: small trees are really only good for paper and shit

12:17 AM:  jjcha-no5: i dunno.. 2 gigS?

12:17 AM:     baobab: and a few extra that they can get away with too *nudge*

*nudge*

12:17 AM:  jjcha-no5: or was it 200 megs

12:17 AM:  jjcha-no5: one or the other.. not that much

12:18 AM:        rsw: dodee: if you understood the pleasure one can get from the

forests and nature (as i do, i grew up around it, in a rural area), you may

understand the other side.

12:18 AM:      dodee: bao: of course they'll take some extra

12:18 AM:      CreeD: cha: are you using any of it besides whatever the html for

the blog/home page take up?

12:18 AM:      dodee: but like I said, it's either that or spend absurd amounts

of money to hve the govt do it "right"

12:18 AM:  jjcha-no5: no it's woefully empty

12:18 AM:      CreeD: 200 megs of fast site would be a nice handy resource. 2

gigs even better =)

12:18 AM:  jjcha-no5: except for a few michelle branc .wmv's =)

12:18 AM:      dodee: I live in "vacationland" rich, I'm well aware o fthe draw

ofthe wilderness

12:18 AM:        rsw: i'd rather have clear-cut, a forest with bits and chunks

taken out is somewhat ghastly

12:18 AM:  jjcha-no5: i can up the storage/pipe width.. though right now it's

just for the blog..

12:18 AM:      dodee: cause the fucking out of staters clog our roadways for 3

months

12:19 AM:      dodee: it isn't like they're gonna clearcut yosemite

12:19 AM:     baobab: yeah 'cause all the damn trees were cut down where they

live...those fuckers :P

12:19 AM:     Fishie: Urm low punch > SPOD right?

12:19 AM:      dodee: percentage wise, hardly anything will be touched

12:19 AM:        rsw: dod: you clearly didn't experience it the way i did

12:19 AM:     baobab: yeah until they get in there and ask the government for

more dodee

12:19 AM:      dodee: clearcutting is illegal!

12:20 AM:     baobab: dodee: doesn't mean it don't happen

12:20 AM:        rsw: i wish the us would adopt what the UK does, have green

zones

12:20 AM:      dodee: what happened a century ago has no bearing on this

12:20 AM:     Fishie: This one is for CreeD ; creed you said its in the logging

industries best intrest to think longterm right?

12:20 AM:        rsw: and they're biiiiiig

12:20 AM:     shinra: could we just idle alone

12:21 AM:     Fishie: That argument doesnt fly tough cause it was also used with

regards to public shares

12:21 AM:      dodee: I'm all for reserving land for parks nd stuff, but you

cant avoid thinning just in case some urbanite wants to go camping

12:21 AM:     Fishie: Iff people own shares they will want to make sure the

company is secure in the long term was the reasoning

12:21 AM: *** Signoff: Omaha_Jef (Your never gonna win..... I have STRENGTH!)

12:21 AM:             DevilRei rolls around

12:22 AM:     baobab: yeah but should people be allowed to access ALL parkland

dodee?

12:22 AM:             CreeD rolls in dirt and the bell around his neck jingles.

12:22 AM:      dodee: no, I think there should be totally reserved areas, too

12:22 AM:     Fishie: Recent goins on prove the opposite tough, people dont care

about long term, they want to make as much as possible NOW and screw others and

what comes in the future

12:22 AM:     baobab: trails everywhere

12:22 AM:     Fishie: So annyways how about this :

12:22 AM:      dodee: but even places like yosemite are so huge that no matter

how many people visit, hardly any impact is felt

12:22 AM:     Fishie: Urm low punch > SPOD right?

12:22 AM:      dodee: other than immediately around the few roads and trails

there are

12:22 AM:     Fishie: Low punch beats SPOD right?

12:22 AM:      dodee: they're MILLIONS of acres

12:23 AM:      Reno-: okay I'm confused yo

12:23 AM:      Reno-: topic says that almaci is banned

12:23 AM:      Reno-: yet

12:23 AM:      Reno-: HE IS HERE

12:23 AM:      Reno-: this is confuzzling!

12:23 AM: *** dodee has set the topic on channel #vfhome to

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=59593 phat game

12:23 AM:      dodee: happy?

12:23 AM:        rsw: dodee: ok, now that's just bullshit

12:23 AM:        rsw: re yosemite

12:23 AM:      Reno-: sweet

12:23 AM:      Reno-: thanks

12:23 AM:      Reno-: :D

12:23 AM:        rsw: because i've been there a half dozen or so times

12:23 AM:        rsw: and it can be fucking brutal

12:24 AM:        rsw: and this was like six or so years ago, last time i was

there

12:24 AM:     Fishie: Ah screw it, ive tried talking about VF4 

12:24 AM: *** DevilRei has set the topic on channel #vfhome to

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=59593 phat game | Meep.

12:24 AM:        rsw: i'd hate to see what it's like now

12:24 AM:     Fishie: No ones listening

12:24 AM:      dodee: yosemite is 761,266 acres

12:24 AM:        rsw: the valley is an ABSOLUTE FUCKING ZOO

12:24 AM:      dodee: and only 3 million people visit yearly

12:24 AM:   DevilRei: I been there too, Rich be right

12:24 AM:        rsw: stupid fat cunts in their huge RV's and screaming kids

12:24 AM:      dodee: and that's only ONE park, and one of the most popular

12:25 AM:     Fishie: Who the fuck cares how manny people visit it?

12:25 AM:        rsw: "only 3 million people"

12:25 AM:     Fishie: It serves its purpose as a place where nature still exists

12:25 AM:        rsw: 'only'

12:25 AM:      dodee: 3 million people isn't that many

12:25 AM:        rsw: are you kidding me?

12:25 AM:      dodee: not for that much land

12:25 AM:      dodee: do you hve ANY concept of how large 750,000 acres is?

12:25 AM:      CreeD: low punch beats spod if you have enough initiative yes

12:25 AM:     Fishie: Animals live there, flowers grow there, the sky is clear

and nature goes its course relatively unchanged by men

12:25 AM:      dodee: and people only visit a small portion of that

12:25 AM:      CreeD: from long range, spod has more range than the low punch so

spod wins regardless

12:26 AM:  jjcha-no5: is the timing still stricter if you MC with the stun palm?

12:26 AM:     Fishie: Ah ic

12:26 AM:  jjcha-no5: doesn't seem like it

12:26 AM:        rsw: dodee: of fucking course i do, i've been there

12:26 AM:      dodee: on average, 8000 people are in yoesemite

12:26 AM:      CreeD: cha: no I think spod's as easy as it's ever been

12:26 AM:      dodee: at any given time

12:26 AM:        rsw: and i've seen how crowded and shitty it could be

12:26 AM:     baobab: here ya go dodee, spport for your doesn't effect the

environment: http://www.uneptie.org/pc/tourism/sust-tourism/env-3main.htm

12:26 AM:      CreeD: I can spod on the pad

12:26 AM:     Fishie: CreeD tell me whadya think of this then:

12:27 AM:        rsw: dodee: you can spout the numbers all you want

12:27 AM:     Fishie:

http://virtuafighter.com/versuscity/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=training&Number=

49776&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

12:27 AM:      dodee: that's 10,000 acres per person

12:27 AM:      dodee: of COURSE the roads and shit are crowded

12:27 AM:        rsw: but the fact remains that it's crowded and gross very

often

12:27 AM:      dodee: go back to my original comment about immediately around

roads and trails are the impacted areas

12:28 AM:  jjcha-no5: matt i remember going to e3 1998.. i saw the guy i beat at

the vf1 tourney at e3 1997 - he was now working for sega and was displaying the

vf2 pc edition... i go up and he recognizes me and asks me if i'm good at vf2

too... so we play, first round, CD SPoD with the pads and he's just like

"yep..."

12:28 AM:      CreeD: -[ Fishie ]- Yeah you fucked up there

12:28 AM:      CreeD: c-dash backwards and spod a P masher is strong

12:28 AM:      CreeD: shou's right

12:28 AM:      dodee: bao, what's the context of that article?

12:29 AM:      CreeD: cha: £.o.£!

12:29 AM:      CreeD: nice

12:29 AM:        rsw: say again - the fact remains that it's crowded and

disgusting very often. and probably it would be impossible to build more roads,

due to terrain - it could be done, but you'd need a few megatons of dynamite

12:29 AM:      dodee: of course tourism affects some areas. that article is

specifically addressing tourist towns and cities, places where the whole area is

dependent on tourism

12:29 AM:     baobab: whaddaya mean? it's just a snapshot of how tourists effect

the environment of national parks around the world

12:29 AM:      dodee: places like ft lauderdale and shit

12:29 AM:      CreeD: Yeah, a lot of those acres are mountains, and nobody's

gonna make the time and effort to spread out on those mountains

12:30 AM:     baobab: no...go down to where it talks about yosemite directly

12:30 AM:     Fishie: Bah

12:30 AM:        rsw: "time to blow up half dome"

12:30 AM:      CreeD: we can pretty much limit the 766K acres to only the flat

and not-densely-wooded areas

12:30 AM:      dodee: that article is just as biased as I'm being colored

12:30 AM:     Fishie: Then again, I aint knoledgeable about Akira nor dop I

claim to be ^_^

12:30 AM:      dodee: quoting sierra club for god's sake

12:30 AM:        rsw: damn lefties!

12:30 AM:      CreeD: -[ Fishie ]- if I were you I'd like kill that post right

away

12:30 AM:      CreeD: :p

12:30 AM:     Fishie: ROFLOL there we go again

12:31 AM:      dodee: "This occasional smog"

12:31 AM:        rsw: they spout nothing but lies!

12:31 AM:     baobab: http://www.american.edu/TED/YOSEMITE.HTM

12:31 AM:      dodee: name one place on the planet that doesn't have occaisonal

smog

12:31 AM:     Fishie: They differ from oppinion with you dodee so you just

disregard EVERYTHING they say as damn liberal leftwing tree hugging nonsense

12:31 AM:      CreeD: brazil rainforest, right in the middle?

12:31 AM: *** Signoff: BMW_D2 (sleep)

12:31 AM:      CreeD: undeveloped africa!

12:31 AM:      Myke`: bunya mountains

12:31 AM:      Myke`: 150km east of brisbane

12:31 AM:     baobab: 20. environmental impacts....supposts dodee's argument

12:31 AM:      CreeD: gobi desert

12:31 AM:     Fishie: dodee Antarctica

12:31 AM:      Myke`: aka the sticks

12:32 AM:      dodee: wow, look at all those roads in yosemite, that must make,

what, 5% accessable to most peopel?

12:32 AM:      CreeD: many islands.

12:32 AM:     Srider: wow people are reading my threads

12:32 AM:      dodee: oh my god! close it up!

12:32 AM:     Srider: hehe

12:32 AM:        rsw: anyway i'm dropping this, because dodee won't ever give

up. i suggest others do so, unless they like typing constantly for the next hour

12:32 AM:        rsw: sure, let's build more roads. let's fuck it up even more.

let's pave el cap!

12:33 AM:      dodee: yep, dodee's the idiot

12:33 AM:      dodee: fuck off

12:33 AM:        rsw: i didn't say you were an idiot

12:33 AM:      dodee: why bother to take the trouble to?

12:33 AM:        rsw: don't put words into my mouth, asshole. all i meant was

that you're tenacious as hell

12:33 AM:        rsw: and i don't feel like talking about this anymore

12:33 AM:      dodee: bah

12:33 AM:      CreeD: Yeah dodee I think you're being touchy, he just said you'd

never give up

12:34 AM:      CreeD: nothing in there implied stupidity.

12:34 AM:      CreeD: just persistence.

12:34 AM:      CreeD: take it as a compliment, you often speak of your

bulldoggedness.

12:34 AM:      dodee: yeah well.

12:34 AM:     Fishie: Nice word

12:34 AM:      dodee: I dont defend things that are indefensible

12:34 AM:     Fishie: bulldoggedness

12:35 AM:     Fishie: dodee thats up for disagreement

12:35 AM:      CreeD: £.o.£! fishie begs for it

12:35 AM:      dodee: I'm all warmed up, bring it

12:35 AM:      dodee: gimme one instance of something I was 100% wrong about

that I defended zealously

12:35 AM:      CreeD: nah it's not like dodee's position is not shared by even a

fraction of the US pop

12:35 AM:      Myke`: .us vs .be Round 2

12:35 AM:      CreeD: stuff like logging you can always find thousands for and

thousands against a particular bill

12:35 AM:      CreeD: both usually have a point

12:35 AM:      Myke`: LEDDY! GOOOO!

12:35 AM:        rsw: snow dogs!

12:35 AM:     Fishie: You defend youre own narrow vieuws of US media as absolute

truth, thats indefensable

12:35 AM:      dodee: hahaha

12:35 AM:        rsw: and lilo and stitch!

12:36 AM:      dodee: I enver overly defended snowdogs flopping!

12:36 AM:      CreeD: I remember you did once and I pointed it out, and you were

like "OK I'm still right 99.9 percent of the time though"

12:36 AM:      dodee: and I still say lilo and stitch is trash.

12:36 AM:     baobab: i agree with dodee up to a point about this logging thing,

but that's it :)

12:36 AM:        rsw: but you said it'd fail

12:36 AM:      CreeD: but I forgot what it was and prolly don't have the log so

fuck it

12:36 AM:      dodee: wishful thinking

12:36 AM:     baobab: two words

12:36 AM:     baobab: black

12:36 AM:     baobab: knight

12:36 AM:     Fishie: Or what about that movie Black Knight wich you claimed was

YOURE IDEA and defendet 

12:36 AM:      dodee: I was admittedly wrong about both of disney's latest

travesties

12:36 AM:      dodee: dont fuck with black knight!

12:36 AM:      dodee: that movie is great

12:36 AM:     Fishie: Hey the story is from 1928

12:37 AM:        rsw: you also claim that vf2 reversals were a better system

than vf3/4's

12:37 AM:      dodee: I'm FAR from the only person to criticise the slant of the

media inthe US, .be.

12:37 AM:     baobab: yeah i can't really argue about it, 'cause i haven't seen

it.  just giving ya shit dodee :P

12:37 AM:      dodee: I claim that vf2's reversal motions were better

12:37 AM:      dodee: that's the only bit I'll bother to defend

12:38 AM:     baobab: what were VF2's reversal motions?

12:38 AM:  jjcha-no5: it was fun doing the tap g then direction wasn't it?

12:38 AM:  jjcha-no5: it made you feel like you ewre doing something..

12:38 AM:     baobab: that's it?

12:38 AM:        rsw: yes, let's make a pathetic reversal harder to do.

12:38 AM:      dodee: exactly, cha

12:38 AM:      dodee: I think they should be harder to do

12:38 AM:  jjcha-no5: naw it was fun

12:38 AM:      CreeD: -[ baobab ]- they were harder

12:38 AM:    al`Thor: black knight sucked

12:38 AM:      CreeD: Oops they were harder bao

12:38 AM:        rsw: for 30 points? what the flaming fuck

12:38 AM:    al`Thor: it shoulda been rated R

12:38 AM:     Fishie: dodee or youre claims that nobody knew the director of

movies like the odd couple and some like it hot

12:38 AM:        rsw: yeah, that makes perrrfect sense.

12:38 AM:      CreeD: which meant you could know what the opponent was gonna do

and know how to stop it, but it was still hard

12:39 AM:      CreeD: one of my number one complaints about VF4 actually

12:39 AM:      dodee: fishie, and percentage of the population wise, I still say

I'm right

12:39 AM:      CreeD: I would see a whiffed low punch cut animation at the

INSTANT my opponent does a low punch so often in VF4

12:39 AM:      CreeD: and each Bull Shit whiff was like 1/4th of a bar

12:39 AM:      dodee: as was discussed that night, vfhome is hardly a hardcore

statistical cross sectionof the population

12:39 AM:     Fishie: Yah but percentage wise the majority of the people dont

know who Steven Speilberg is

12:40 AM:      dodee: I'm missing how that proves me wrong

12:40 AM:     Fishie: So thats a moot point, there is a difference between

calling someone niche 

12:40 AM:      dodee: that just defends my position better

12:40 AM:     Fishie: No it does not

12:40 AM:      dodee: if no one knows who fucking speilberg is, why would they

know who whoeverthefuck was?

12:40 AM:     Fishie: You even got angry at me for simply knowing who the guy

was at all

12:40 AM:      dodee: look up "niche" in the dictionary

12:40 AM:      dodee: and see what it means before you utter another word

12:41 AM:     baobab: 'cause people were smarter 50 years ago :P

12:41 AM:     Fishie: the log is up at foops

12:41 AM:     Fishie: Its funny how you went all crazy against me for simply

knowing who he was

12:41 AM:      dodee: r-e-a-d t-h-e d-e-f-i-n-i-t-i-o-n

12:41 AM:     Fishie: Oh screw that, im sorry if I used the word in error, you

try juggling six languages

12:42 AM:      dodee: then tell me I'm wrong about saying the only people who

know who he was is a certain niche

12:42 AM:      dodee: Idont give a shit if you dont know a word, just dont act

like you do if you dont

12:42 AM:      dodee: "I can argue all I want and be wrong, cause I dont really

know the word" *bzzzzzz* wrong answer

12:42 AM:      dodee: the correct answer is "oh, my bad."

12:43 AM:     Fishie: Nope not the WRONG ANSWER cause I cant be wrong ^_^

12:43 AM:      dodee: smack that ^_^ shit upside the face.

12:43 AM:     baobab: i dunno about that fishie

12:43 AM:   DevilRei: ^____^

12:43 AM:   DevilRei: ^_____^

12:43 AM:   DevilRei: ^________^

12:43 AM:   DevilRei: ^_____________^

12:43 AM:      CreeD: Y_Y

12:43 AM:     Fishie: Stop that

12:43 AM:   DevilRei: Nobody screws with smilies.

12:43 AM:   DevilRei: *_*

12:43 AM:      CreeD: ><

12:43 AM:      Myke`: not without my ass you don't!

12:43 AM:      CreeD: ___

12:43 AM:        rsw: ^_-

12:43 AM:   DevilRei: T_T

12:43 AM:   DevilRei: x_x

12:43 AM:   DevilRei: o.o

12:44 AM:     baobab: :)

12:44 AM:             Fishie screw with the smilies two times over, and a third

time from behind

12:44 AM:        rsw: ^_- ~~~c===8

12:44 AM:   DevilRei: @_@

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12:44 AM:      dodee: hah

12:44 AM:      CreeD: 1 c4n 4r6u3 4ll 1 w4n7 4nd 83 wr0n6, c4u53 1 d0n7 r34lly

kn0w 7h3 w0rd" *8zzzzzz* wr0n6 4n5w3r

12:44 AM:     saijun: howdy

12:44 AM:      CreeD: hi saijun

12:44 AM:  jjcha-no5: hmm

12:44 AM:     saijun: how is everyone?

12:44 AM:  jjcha-no5: that's almost korean sounding

12:44 AM:      CreeD: you come at an embarrassing time in #vfhome's life.

12:44 AM:      CreeD: we're arguing fiercely

12:44 AM:     saijun: whats up?

12:44 AM:     saijun: oh

12:44 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: Cr33D i5 |_33t

12:45 AM:  jjcha-no5: arguing fiercely? i thought everyone was just saying how

wrong steve was again =)

12:45 AM:      CreeD: 31337

12:45 AM:      CreeD: Yeah there is that

12:45 AM:     saijun: lol

12:45 AM:   DevilRei: l33tz0r

12:45 AM:     baobab: we're arguing about whether or not chocolate or strawbeery

milkshakes should be outlawed completely 

12:45 AM:      CreeD: and some of us are just fucking around

12:45 AM:     baobab: strawberry even

12:45 AM:      dodee: strawberry.

12:45 AM:     saijun: i'm kind of a newbie to the game, i'm only a 7th dan on

kumite. i love vf though!:)

12:45 AM:     saijun: just bought it

12:45 AM:      dodee: I dont like strawberrt.

12:45 AM:      dodee: -t+y

12:45 AM:      Myke`: vanilla is where it's at

12:45 AM:        rsw: someone find me the good web leet translator

12:45 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: hrm strawbeery shake sounds interesting

12:45 AM:        rsw: it was very simple, but had the best leet speak i've ever

seen

12:46 AM:     baobab: STRAWBERRY FUCKING RULEZZ YOU BASTARDZOAS!! :P

12:46 AM:        rsw: i lost my bookmarks

12:46 AM:  jjcha-no5: hmm

12:46 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: google time, rich

12:46 AM:      dodee: only ladyboys like strawberry

12:46 AM:     Fishie: Dodee one more thing and then im trough with this shit

12:46 AM:        rsw: when i reformatted my hd, and i can't fucking find it

12:46 AM:     saijun: hehehe

12:46 AM:     baobab: lol

12:46 AM:     Fishie: Cheesecake factory rules

12:46 AM:        rsw: heat: i TRRRIIIIEEEEED

12:46 AM:      CreeD: -[ rsw ]- heh get a nice leet irc client!

12:46 AM:      dodee: huh?

12:46 AM:      dodee: what does cheesecake factory have to do with me?

12:46 AM:     baobab: wait a sec...that's what's wrong tonight

12:46 AM:      CreeD: 57r4w83rry fuck1n6 rul3zz y0u 84574rdz045!! :p

12:47 AM:     baobab: i can READ creeds posts :P

12:47 AM:     saijun: hey guys, are there any moves for jacky that aren't in the

instruction book? i just got it

12:47 AM:        rsw: creed: this had leet far superior than your client offers,

honestly

12:47 AM:        rsw: it was goooood shit, believe me

12:47 AM:     Fishie: It rules and dont you claim otherwise

12:47 AM:      CreeD: saijin: go to training, then choose free training, then go

to move list

12:47 AM:      dodee: the fuck does that have do with anything?

12:47 AM:      CreeD: that should have ever move

12:47 AM:      dodee: dont incite my wrath

12:47 AM:     Fishie: Its a FACT

12:47 AM:     baobab: ws that the leet translator that tonydanza or whoever

found?

12:47 AM:      dodee: who gives a shit if it's fact if I dont disagree?

12:47 AM:      CreeD: -[ saijun ]- sometimes training mode misses a move or two

but it has 99.9 percent of them

12:47 AM:      Myke`: saijin, the VFDC command lists is about as complete as it

gets 

12:47 AM:      dodee: entirely irrelevant

12:48 AM:   DevilRei: Dodee has wrath?

12:48 AM:        rsw: bao: i think i actually got it from a vfdc thread

12:48 AM:        rsw: searching now

12:48 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: rich: http://www.servergirl.net/leet/leetspeak.pl

12:48 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: is one

12:48 AM:        rsw: i think feixaq posted it

12:48 AM:        rsw: fei's been awol, hasn't he? pulled a yupa

12:48 AM:      dodee: dodee *is* wrath

12:48 AM:     saijun: ok cool

12:48 AM:     saijun: you guys rock

12:48 AM:      CreeD: Yeah fei has been

12:48 AM:             DevilRei is wubbles

12:48 AM:      CreeD: he thanks saijun

12:48 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: 54|_|||\|, 7|-|3 \/f|)C C0|\/||\/|4|\||) 1|575 |5 480|_|7

45 C0|\/|p1373 45 |7 9375 

12:49 AM:        rsw: dodee is totally uncool uptight white boy temper tantrum

12:49 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: that's leet for "saijin, the VFDC command lists is about

as complete as it gets "

12:49 AM:        rsw: if by that you mean "wrath" :)

12:49 AM:     saijun: cool cool

12:49 AM:      dodee: I'm gonna pretend I didnt hear that, smily or not.

12:50 AM:        rsw: heat: that's actually pretty good. the one i had was

similar, but offered more toned down or more hardcore options

12:50 AM:      CreeD: heh poor dod0r

12:50 AM:        rsw: i've said that exact same line before

12:50 AM:     saijun: have you guys heard of a player named shinZ or something

like that? this guy was going off about how he's famous at VF and the man and

all this

12:50 AM:        rsw: and you agreed with me

12:50 AM:      dodee: what line?

12:50 AM:        rsw: dodee is totally uncool uptight white boy temper tantrum

12:50 AM:      dodee: I heard no line.

12:50 AM:        rsw: or very similar

12:50 AM:        rsw: sure i did

12:50 AM:      CreeD: -[ saijun ]- he's the best player in korea

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12:50 AM:      dodee: "temper tantrum" wasn't in it

12:50 AM:      CreeD: -[ saijun ]- he did well in japan but isn't as good as

japan's best (yet)

12:51 AM:        rsw: okay, not quite exact, but very very similar

12:51 AM:      dodee: uptight white boy something" maybe

12:51 AM:     Almaci: Damn modem

12:51 AM:     saijun: no way thats awesome

12:51 AM:      CreeD: -[ saijun ]- he's famous for his movement and his skills

with akira. Also has a very strong jacky.

12:51 AM:      dodee: temper tantrum is a loaded term

12:51 AM:      dodee: it implies irrational action.

12:51 AM:      CreeD: -[ saijun ]- Yeah if you want to watch a pretty slick

akira or jacky, watch clips of him

12:51 AM:        rsw: feh. if it wasn't that, you'd be pissed over something

else

12:51 AM:     saijun: can i download clips of him anywhere creed? i would crap

my pants i'm sure!

12:51 AM:      CreeD: -[ saijun ]- his clan's home page is www.tbzone.co.kr/vf4/

12:51 AM:      dodee: I'm just glad when people give me an exuse to do it

12:51 AM:     saijun: thanks oh wise creed

12:51 AM:     saijun: ;)

12:51 AM:  jjcha-no5:  you know

12:52 AM:      dodee: excuse, too.

12:52 AM:      CreeD: -[ saijun ]- you can find clips of him by clicking

download at the top (it takes a long time to load) then click korea act 3 or act

4 on the right

12:52 AM:     baobab: wizard-oh-wise-creed

12:52 AM:  jjcha-no5: i think anyone who comes on talking baout vf

12:52 AM:  jjcha-no5: who doesn't know who matt is

12:52 AM:      CreeD: ;)

12:52 AM:  jjcha-no5: should automatically be shunned

12:52 AM:      CreeD: awww stop :p

12:52 AM:     saijun: lol man i get no love anywhere i go

12:52 AM:      dodee: creed's our VF culturebot

12:52 AM:  jjcha-no5: i mean shit, more than anyone else, i think matt's been

consistantly posting on vf since vf1

12:52 AM:      CreeD: he's enthused and polite, I can dig that.

12:52 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: http://www.leetspeak.com/

12:52 AM:  jjcha-no5: i'm not kidding actually

12:52 AM:     saijun: they kicked me out of the barney fan club too

12:52 AM:     baobab: he does have bot like qualities

12:52 AM:      CreeD: nah VF2 cha, be fair

12:52 AM:     saijun: hehehe

12:52 AM:  jjcha-no5: i remember your nick/sig in a box from 1996

12:53 AM:     baobab: !vfclips

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12:53 AM:      dodee: the 31337 ascii art sig.

12:53 AM:      CreeD: yep yep it's there

12:53 AM:  jjcha-no5: so if they don't know who you are

12:53 AM:      dodee: unc.

12:53 AM:  jjcha-no5: that's a sign to me that thye haven't searched the

archives

12:53 AM:      CreeD: my first forays onto usenet were SF posts I think

12:53 AM:        rsw: heat: still not it, like i said this one had options

12:53 AM:  jjcha-no5: or otherwise poked around on the resources that are

available first

12:53 AM:      Myke`: agsf2 for me

12:53 AM:      Myke`: where it all began

12:53 AM:        rsw: p|-|uck ()pHpH 

12:53 AM:      CreeD: myke :awwjeah

12:53 AM:  jjcha-no5: i mean, newbies should be like, holy shit you're _the_

creed??

12:53 AM:      CreeD: people flaming seth killian

12:54 AM:      CreeD: or making fun of allen j klein.

12:54 AM:  HeaTrnsfr: hehe chaj

12:54 AM:      CreeD: IF YOU CAN BLOCK IT YOU CAN UPPERCUT IT MOTHERFUCKER

12:54 AM:  jjcha-no5: dunno maybe it's me..

12:54 AM:    UnCauzi: dod

12:54 AM:     baobab: he's THE creed, who won't come play with the NY'ers :(

12:54 AM:    al`Thor: actually seth flamed other people, people usually didn't

flame seth

12:54 AM: *** St-Champ is now known as A-Dhalsim

12:54 AM:    al`Thor: klein was funny as hell

12:54 AM:        rsw: yay! found it

http://www.geocities.com/mnstr_2000/translate.html

12:54 AM:    UnCauzi: i flamed everyone

12:55 AM:      CreeD: cha: it's just you. part of my mystique is

userfriendliness and a mild aversion to anti-noob-leet-rtfm-posture

12:55 AM:      dodee: he cant go to NY, he's too busy clearcutting virgin

woodlands in VA now that he's done with maine =)

12:55 AM:     baobab: dodee: i do believe you're on to something :)

12:55 AM:      CreeD: speaking of virgin woodlands, did your mom ever clean out

that.... nah wait I can't say that :P

12:55 AM:    al`Thor: who's in VA?

12:55 AM:      CreeD: -[ Almaci ]- I am

12:55 AM:    UnCauzi: huhuhu

12:55 AM:      CreeD: Oops

12:55 AM:      CreeD: alt: I am

12:56 AM:  jjcha-no5: i like thta advanced eliteness checkbox

12:56 AM:      dodee: actually, we did

12:56 AM:      CreeD: hey where the hell are you al

12:56 AM:      dodee: we cut down a buncha trees last year

12:56 AM:      CreeD: you're in VA aren't you

12:56 AM:      CreeD: -[ dodee ]- mmm that's exactly where I was going with

that... ok thanks

12:56 AM:    UnCauzi: wh00t

12:56 AM:    UnCauzi: so

12:56 AM:    UnCauzi: rsw

12:56 AM:    UnCauzi: baobab

12:56 AM:      CreeD: I see you al, you're in maryland

12:56 AM:    UnCauzi: do you guys want some

12:56 AM:      CreeD: do you go to josh's house to play VF al?

12:56 AM:    UnCauzi: biatches

12:56 AM:    al`Thor: creed: yeah, i'm in VA

12:57 AM:      CreeD: or do they want some quake

12:57 AM:    al`Thor: creed: actually, i dont play vf at all ^_^

12:57 AM:    al`Thor: who is josh?

12:57 AM:     baobab: u|\|C4Uz1 l1|<E t0 5cRe\/\/ 4lt3r 8OYS @pHt3R Pl4YIN9 uT  

12:57 AM:      CreeD: -[ Almaci ]- well you should come with me sometime to

shadowdean's, we all play on the arcade unit in his living room

12:57 AM:      CreeD: it's pretty fun

12:57 AM:     baobab: lol

12:57 AM:    UnCauzi: yesh

12:57 AM:     Almaci: 7 am time for tubby bye bye

12:57 AM:  jjcha-no5: matt

12:57 AM:      CreeD: althor: josh = shadowdean

12:57 AM:    al`Thor: creed: where is he at?

12:57 AM:    UnCauzi: call me the catholic priest

12:57 AM:      CreeD: damn that thing

12:57 AM: *** Signoff: Fishie (Ping timeout: 600 seconds)

12:57 AM:  jjcha-no5: so is josh gonna get an evo disk?

12:57 AM:  jjcha-no5: it's just the CD right?

12:57 AM:        rsw: i think he has the rom set

12:57 AM:      CreeD: he's trying Yeah

12:58 AM:      CreeD: that'd be rad

12:58 AM:        rsw: not a naomi gd rom system

12:58 AM:  jjcha-no5: ah so he'd have to get the roms then..

12:58 AM:      CreeD: but they want him to buy a whole new kit

12:58 AM: *** Almaci has been kicked off channel #vfhome by DevilRei (boom)

12:58 AM:    UnCauzi: i thought creed lived in boston

12:58 AM:    UnCauzi: or some shit

12:58 AM:     saijun: what do you think of Evo creed?

12:58 AM:     baobab: even though josh is the NA champ....in sega's eyes anyway

:P

12:58 AM:      CreeD: nah maine

12:58 AM:      CreeD: now va

12:58 AM:  jjcha-no5: graooohhhhnn

12:58 AM:    UnCauzi: josh is the bestest

12:59 AM:    al`Thor: creed: where in VA?

12:59 AM:      CreeD: Wow I whupped the na champ! holy shit!

12:59 AM:      CreeD: :D

12:59 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- northern... warrenton

12:59 AM:  jjcha-no5: sitll

12:59 AM:    UnCauzi: that biatch said he was going to play me in some avp2

12:59 AM:  jjcha-no5: out of all those fools thta they got in the tourney

12:59 AM:      dodee: the part really far from where you live, al. =)

12:59 AM:  jjcha-no5: im glad it's josh who won it..

12:59 AM:      CreeD: of if you dunno warrenton, near manassas/centerville

12:59 AM:    al`Thor: warrenton??? that's like an hour from me tops

12:59 AM:      CreeD: I am too, being in northern VA

12:59 AM:      dodee: I'm glad I dont live in "man asses"

12:59 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- beauty, josh is 1 hour from me

12:59 AM:    al`Thor: the busiest store in my region is in warrenton

12:59 AM:    al`Thor: where is josh exactly?

12:59 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- got weekends off?

12:59 AM:    al`Thor: sometimes

12:59 AM:      CreeD: silver springs

1:00 AM:    al`Thor: i make my schedule, usually i need to work part of it

1:00 AM:  jjcha-no5: hmm

1:00 AM:    al`Thor: how do you get there? main roads and stuff that is?

1:00 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- that's what I'll have off. We need to work

out something

1:00 AM:  jjcha-no5: there appears to be a little vf commuinty forming in DC eh?

1:00 AM:  jjcha-no5: shit matt, email paul

1:00 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- 66 east

1:00 AM:    al`Thor: i would seriously love to learn the game

1:00 AM:  jjcha-no5: i know he wants to play

1:00 AM:  jjcha-no5: tho i think he's brazil for a few weeks

1:00 AM:    al`Thor: i just gave up since i have nobody to play

1:00 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- onto ...495... then 650n

1:00 AM:    al`Thor: creed: until when? 495?

1:00 AM:  jjcha-no5: he's got good basic skills/instincts..

1:00 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- we'll have a good time

1:00 AM:      CreeD: -[ jjcha-no5 ]- shit Yeah! forgot

1:00 AM:    al`Thor: hrm

1:01 AM:    al`Thor: i'm almost but not quite on your way there

1:01 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- we can arrange something. You can drive here

and I drive us there

1:01 AM:    al`Thor: actually it only takes me like 30 minutes to get to

manassas

1:01 AM:  jjcha-no5: where is al'thor locateD?

1:01 AM:    al`Thor: do you know where dulles airport is?

1:01 AM:      CreeD: I don't spose you have fri/sat/sun off coming up?

1:01 AM:     baobab: so creed should drive to you then :P

1:01 AM:      CreeD: sure

1:01 AM:     saijun: peace guys............thanks for being cool and helpin a

fellow vf/er out! take care, !

1:01 AM: *** saijun has left channel #vfhome

1:01 AM:      CreeD: later sai

1:01 AM:    al`Thor: i'm like 5 minutes from dulles

1:01 AM:  jjcha-no5: hmm matt yer better off picking up althor

1:02 AM:  jjcha-no5: though he's not exactly on the way eithre =)

1:02 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- ok I'm like 45 from dulles

1:02 AM:    al`Thor: creed: as in today, tomorrow and next day or week after?

1:02 AM:      CreeD: but lemme see in what direction

1:02 AM:     baobab: uh-oh....the channel was nice to a new person.   he'll tell

other new people and they come flocking back, expecting nice treatment :P

1:02 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- today, tomorrow, day after

1:02 AM:    al`Thor: ack no, i work tomorrow and saturday, off sunday

1:02 AM:  jjcha-no5: actually

1:02 AM:  jjcha-no5: he is on the way..

1:02 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- we can maybe work it out on sunday then,

dean's not doing anything prolly

1:03 AM:  jjcha-no5: depending on what roads you take..

1:03 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- what town are you in?

1:03 AM:    al`Thor: sterling

1:03 AM:      CreeD: K

1:04 AM:    al`Thor: how often do you go to his place?

1:04 AM:      CreeD: 43 mins NE of me

1:04 AM:     baobab: rich: are we gonna UT?

1:04 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- I only started going recently, but I've been

there like three days out of the past 2 weeks

1:04 AM:    UnCauzi: yeah biatches UT!!!!!

1:04 AM:      CreeD: as often as I can manage before he has to move for college

1:05 AM:      CreeD: cuz he doesn't know if he can manage getting the machine

into the new place.

1:05 AM:      CreeD: I'm gonna talk him into it tho

1:05 AM:     baobab: i'm pretty sure we can get sal in on it too

1:05 AM:      CreeD: or else talk him into letting me pick it up and keep it

here ;)

1:05 AM:      CreeD: fuuuck

1:05 AM:        rsw: bao: we could

1:05 AM:      CreeD: y'all could be doing quake aieee

1:05 AM:        rsw: sure

1:05 AM:        rsw: ip?

1:06 AM:    al`Thor: CreeD: coolcool, are you here in va to stay or you just

here for a little while?

1:06 AM:     baobab: creed: don't you know that quake is the 'time killers' of

the FPS world :P

1:06 AM:      CreeD: to stay

1:06 AM:      CreeD: bah I had my head sliced off in one hit in UT, if that

isn't the exact definition of "time killers" I dunno what is ;)

1:06 AM:    UnCauzi: hmm

1:06 AM:    UnCauzi: u all want to play?

1:06 AM:        rsw: yes

1:06 AM:    UnCauzi: get sal

1:06 AM:     baobab: 24.199.105.220

1:06 AM:    UnCauzi: is he around

1:07 AM:     baobab: gimme a minute to set it up though

1:07 AM:    UnCauzi: what kind of game is that bao

1:07 AM:        rsw: bao, me, possibly shin?

1:07 AM: PING delay for shinra: 1 second

1:07 AM:        rsw: ctf!

1:07 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- ok you're directly west of silver spring

1:07 AM:     baobab: what map?

1:07 AM:    UnCauzi: ctf sure

1:07 AM:    UnCauzi: face

1:07 AM:    UnCauzi: ;)

1:07 AM: *** Three-11

(grassroots@lsanca1-ar19-4-46-084-181.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net) has joined

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1:07 AM:    UnCauzi: or lava giant

1:07 AM:    al`Thor: CreeD: cool, well if nothing else, if i get started

playing, that's at least one other person (relatevely) close after he leaves for

school

1:07 AM:     baobab: okie dokie

1:07 AM:      CreeD: mapblast estimates 37 mins for you, so it would make sense

for you to go straight there

1:07 AM:      CreeD: -[ al`Thor ]- Yeah either way we can do the PS2 if josh's

isn't a possibility.

1:08 AM:    al`Thor: yeah, exactly

1:08 AM: *** Signoff: baobab (UT)

1:08 AM:      CreeD: shweeeet competition

1:08 AM:    al`Thor: well, i'm not competition yet :)

1:08 AM:    al`Thor: i'll have to start learning moves and stuff soon ^_^

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