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#213557 - 2008-07-01 16:25 VF5R Pai - what do you think?
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Here are some of my observations:

-Pai has got 2, maybe 3 taunts. Dunno when you can do them, or character does it automatically.

-Old + is back \:\( Big shame, i loved new + command \:\(

- 0:23 - this is Pai's new + + . Looks nice, but its totally linear.

- + will be nice move for noobs or good stuff with delayed last palm to advanced players.

- 0:24 - propably + , i saw on one from first VF5R movies, that it will make foot crumple on CH.

- 0:29 - i think it will be + + . Totally linear juggle starter with rather small range.

- 0:32 - + + ? Small range, special mid, maybe it will have some interesting effects.

- 0:48 - new move, good range, mid, propably reanimated old + + or it's + + command.

- Senpu Enka of course 55 dmg \:\(

IMO Pai will be one of the most nerfed chars in VF5R, but in good hands she will be dangerous as usual :))


Edited by Konradinho (2008-07-01 16:27)
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#213577 - 2008-07-01 18:23 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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as long as she still has 2kk or whatever, shouldn't affect 85% of pai's \:D
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#213580 - 2008-07-01 18:35 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: smb]
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I'm no Pai player, but her stand alone moves and new strings make her look more entertaining to me now. Definitely more interested in trying her in this version than previous ones.
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#213584 - 2008-07-01 19:02 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: smb]
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 Originally Posted By: smb_is_me
as long as she still has 2kk or whatever, shouldn't affect 85% of pai's \:D


Oh, you mean the 1kk(RenKaSenTai), yeah I agree with you on that. lol

Still, her new moves are looking great from the few vids we've seen.

As far as her being nerfed, I don't mind, I love being the underdog! lol


Edited by Lucid_Nightmare (2008-07-01 19:03)
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#213590 - 2008-07-01 19:37 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: LucidNightmare]
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Any changes to her Meishouho and Bokutai stances? ;\)


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#213686 - 2008-07-02 05:18 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: PompousKristina]
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 Originally Posted By: KristinaNardone
Any changes to her Meishouho and Bokutai stances? ;\)


Propably not, they aren'r listed on new moves list \:\( Shame
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#213786 - 2008-07-02 16:56 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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I saw new PAI VS JEFFRY VID and i noticed new move:

Propably it's new animation of ++. You can see it at 1:28.

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=sXW1Ca8_dKQ

Totally linear low.I think its that move i seen on old vid, no ++, just this gives some crumple on NH/ CH.
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#214186 - 2008-07-05 06:09 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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http://kakomubi.zenno.info/updir/data/PAI_vs_JEAN.wmv

NEW VIDEO!!!

0:37 + + is for sure giving foot crumple on hit.

0:47 + makes opponent slam and propably gives gauanteed light pounce.

0:55 this is propably Pai's new evade attack, good damage, but totally linear. i think old DM + was better.

1:27 + makes 25 - 30 damage.

2:19 OMG 97 damage. In situations like this, + will be very useful. Quick move after stagger, then + and WS = lots of damage. SWEET \:\)

New Pai moves look great, but they are nothing special to me.
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#215032 - 2008-07-09 16:08 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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im likeing some of pais new moves, i think i saw a shoulder ram but i wsas not to sure, mgiht have to srat playing this game again
heres the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1s1jceYFQ

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#215033 - 2008-07-09 16:11 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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havent seen her 7+K+G in any vids, perhaps its been tkaing out, im not to fussed that that 6+p, k has been taken out, never worked for me, maybe properties of 6+p are better but doubtful

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#215226 - 2008-07-10 15:42 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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6+P was excellent after low throw. 6+P won't stagger and it is the biggest defect of this move.

D df+P+K is Pai's new shoulder ram move. Everything is listed.

I also didnt saw somersault kick, but im sure they didnt remove it. It always was Pai's ''trademark'' move. Just like DDT.
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#215390 - 2008-07-11 10:32 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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 Quote:
but im sure they didnt remove it. It always was Pai's ''trademark'' move. Just like DDT


And the DDT is where now? \:\) Oh right, removed. That being said, I highly doubt that 7+K+G has been removed from VF5R.

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#215684 - 2008-07-13 20:37 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Llanfair]
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i like pais new moves, she seems less and less like her father, before they just had to many similarities,

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#215751 - 2008-07-14 04:26 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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From VF4: EVO Pai and Lau are totally diffrent characters. In VF4 only diffrence was playingstyle, in VF4: EVO Pai had so many new animations (ex. simple PPPK, PPPd+K) and moves that if VF EVO would be my first VF, the only same thing i've been noticed about this two would be surname CHAN.

EDIT:
I'm very intrested what about Pai's + bouncy juggles. I know it now gives new effect, but what do u think, how will now combos work:

+ + + ?

IMO this will do shitty damage, i dont know any other moves you can followup after +, maybe Swallow Kicks.

And what about her new command - +. Will inashis gone ? \:\(

I saw today on youtube some Aoi combo:

MC + + for 80 damage! Even Aoi has stronger juggles? \:\(

EDIT2:

+ + now for 64 damage \:\(


Edited by Konradinho (2008-07-14 04:40)
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#215811 - 2008-07-14 10:43 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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 Originally Posted By: geewai_ho
i like pais new moves, she seems less and less like her father, before they just had to many similarities.......In VF4 only diffrence was playingstyle


Well, I disagree. They've been distinctive characters from the outset, in my opinion. With the exception of having PPPK-esque strings, their movelists have been quite different, as well as their play style. VF2 Lau was a beast with modified upknife-punch rushing (df,DF+PP, repeat), VF3 introduced Lau's elbow-palm and more variety to his palms (bb+P, Pb+Pf+P, etc). While Pai relied much more on poking in and out with sidekicks, swallow kicks and her option select DDT (f,d+P). Their throws and subsequent setups were quite different as well. VF3 Pai's ff+P was a refloater and the introduction of her from crouch throw changed her style of throwing and movement. VF4 Pai was an evolution in her playstyle, I think more than 2 to 3 even. Most of this was due to the way VF4 mechanics were put in place, but she became much more interesting with Bokutai options, etc.

I personally think that they've rarely had more in common than their last name for a long while.

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#215815 - 2008-07-14 10:55 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Llanfair]
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Im talking, if my first VF would be VF EVO, i wouldnt see many similaries about Pai and Lau.
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#216283 - 2008-07-16 14:26 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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http://dogalog.excite.co.jp/viewvideo.jspx?Movie=48077036/48077036peevee179895.flv

New video:

Pai's juggles are now SO weak \:\(
2_6P P 2_6P 66PK only 66 damage
2_6P P 2_6P PPKK only 67 damage ...

SHIT!

in midair combo 66PK gives new flop effect.
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#216295 - 2008-07-16 15:44 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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i never said they were exactly the same, they just had alot of similair moves such as PK going into stance, rising kick that caused stagger but i think its been modified now, as well as u/b + K+G, and the punch strings mentioned before.


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#216335 - 2008-07-16 19:41 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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this thread needs more yips
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#216525 - 2008-07-17 19:02 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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 Originally Posted By: Konradinho
Here are some of my observations:

...-Old + is back \:\( Big shame, i loved new + command \:\( ...


IMO, I liked the old since it's I don't think it's linear. (Can someone confirm that?)
And besides, no one does a lot of the , combo anyways!
For the weakened moves, why did Sega do that!? \:\(
For the rest of the new moves, all I can say is the more moves, more options!!!
And the added taunts would be awesome!

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#216609 - 2008-07-18 10:28 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cruz]
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VF5 6+P gives stagger on hit and its excellent for big damage low throw combos. VF5R 6+P gives no stagger and hasn't got any other effect. Thats why i dont like it.

EDIT:

New videos!
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm3994171 PAI VS EL BLAZE

0:35 new move gives stagger on hit and 0:36 it's NATURAL COMBO on counter hit. Cool \:\) 41 damage on CH for 2 hits.

0:38 propably + is awesome! Crumples on CH and gives guaranteed combo. After wall hit, player didnt do + and it could be proof, that AM2 removed that move. NOOOOO!!

1:40 new 2 hit combo, first move looks the same like Leifangs from DOA b+P move. I think it will be also NC on CH.

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm3994276 PAI VS VANESSA

2:33 + + on normal hit gives nothing, on CH it crumples.

2:35 new combo starter gives flop effect on counter hit! Maybe this will open a road to some big damaging combos for Pai.


Edited by Konradinho (2008-07-18 11:01)
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#216631 - 2008-07-18 13:49 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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I thought the point of was to be a safer alternative to , not by it's stagger properties, but yeah I guess that does suck...
But does it hit an evade???

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#216635 - 2008-07-18 14:11 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cruz]
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6+P is totally linear
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#216707 - 2008-07-19 00:00 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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I was talking about the VF4 ...
Oh well, I thought they were gonna make her better...


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#216714 - 2008-07-19 00:48 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cruz]
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I was really hoping Pai's 6P would be a stagger of some kind but it isn't. Make me wish Pai was the way she in VF4 evo or VF5 at least or something. They take away her easy stagger moves when she is facing the enemy directly. Is her rising K a stagger like it is on PS3 or is it still a knockback move like it was in VF5 on 360. They could at least give that much at least.
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#216789 - 2008-07-19 18:06 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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 Originally Posted By: Konradinho
VF5 6+P gives stagger on hit and its excellent for big damage low throw combos.


How do you get the stagger? I never noticed.

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#216891 - 2008-07-20 14:59 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: akai]
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On crouching opponent.
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#216896 - 2008-07-20 15:47 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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I think I tried it on a crouching opponent, did not cause stagger. Do you mean, crouch guard stagger (not at home to mess around with the move)?

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#216899 - 2008-07-20 16:06 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: akai]
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Yeah crouch guard, sorry. And it causes stagger when u hit backturned crouched character (ex. after 6+P+K+G low throw)
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#217676 - 2008-07-24 20:31 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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maybe that two hit punch is the new animation for her sabaki 6-4+p,p

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#217679 - 2008-07-24 20:40 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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i also noticed it staggered on guard in the el blaze vid, but was not sure

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#217683 - 2008-07-24 21:30 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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 Originally Posted By: Konradinho
Yeah crouch guard, sorry. And it causes stagger when u hit backturned crouched character (ex. after 6+P+K+G low throw)


Thanks, I did not knew about the off-axis stagger.

I finally took some time to check this out on 360 VF5 version.
It does not have anything related to crouch guard. The only time it causes stagger is off-axis neutral opponent. It only works after 6+P+K+G low throw if opponent does not press any buttons..I think (neutral versus normal hit).

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#217710 - 2008-07-25 02:35 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: akai]
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Looking at VF5R Move List - some additional changes not mentioned yet..

= loses the punch command after
= command likely changed to +

Her old + and + reversals are removed. In VF5R, + and + are the new command input for her stagger reversals (previously the + and + commands.)




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#217824 - 2008-07-25 15:51 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: akai]
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 Originally Posted By: akai

= command likely changed to +



No, +is still same command, + is a command to Pai's new bodycheck move (i wrote about it some posts above).

And ...
+ is still in the game! SWEET \:\)
Shame to Pai inashis, it always was a big point in my playstyle. But why they didnt give Pai any low reversal? \:\/ Trip Up is too hard to use in fight.

EDIT:
Lol old D f+P input isnt listed. and maybe bff+P+K is her bodycheck? Now i dunno anything \:\/


Edited by Konradinho (2008-07-25 15:55)
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#217829 - 2008-07-25 16:03 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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+ == 燕青虎双破 == old

This is part of the theme of reducing execution requirements, like they did for shoulder rams, since you can just do it as + which is easier to find on a square gate.
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#217838 - 2008-07-25 16:29 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: KoD]
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i just thought of something...
she has + And a shoulder ram?
oh my word...
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#217851 - 2008-07-25 17:57 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: KoD]
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 Originally Posted By: KoD
This is part of the theme of reducing execution requirements, like they did for shoulder rams, since you can just do it as + which is easier to find on a square gate.


Hopefully, this means someone with clumsy hands like me will be jumping less in game. -_-;;

 Originally Posted By: Konradinho

Shame to Pai inashis, it always was a big point in my playstyle. But why they didnt give Pai any low reversal? \:\/ Trip Up is too hard to use in fight.


Her inashis (low damage, resulting in stagger) are still there just with new commands:
+ and +. Her reversals (higher damage, no stagger) were removed.

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#218065 - 2008-07-27 07:17 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: akai]
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=z_wYPMJaAIY

I KNEW IT!!!

+ will make opponent bounce just like in VF5! Hell yeah! 0:58 97 damage action! SWEET!!! \:\)
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#218093 - 2008-07-27 12:57 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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According to new MOVELIST, Pai lost her 8+K+G pounce and she propably does not have an low wall throw or somethin'.
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#218105 - 2008-07-27 14:22 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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 Quote:

Her reversals (higher damage, no stagger) were removed.


Nooooo! Is this confirmed?
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#218225 - 2008-07-28 08:21 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: seven5suited]
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I was always fan of her inashis over her normal reversals since combos can be started right after them in many cases. more easily. The other changes have really amazed me and her wider variety of counter attack actions compared to what she had before. not having high damage reversals don't bother me as long her other moves make up for not having them.
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#218552 - 2008-07-30 06:23 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: shadowmaster]
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i noticed alot of players using her from from crouch 2+4+k alot, it also seems quicker, maybe frames have changed?

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#218567 - 2008-07-30 07:53 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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 Originally Posted By: geewai_ho
i noticed alot of players using her from from crouch 2+4+k alot, it also seems quicker, maybe frames have changed?


I don't know if the frame properties has changed, but the command for move has been changed to +.

is still the backflip.


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#218603 - 2008-07-30 10:56 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: akai]
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NO WAY!

New video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKk84hyeMg

46K+G bounce owns all !!! :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyfHfJEkDfQ
df+P+K is guaranteed after 62P+G throw


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#218607 - 2008-07-30 11:16 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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What is this at 1:49?

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#218630 - 2008-07-30 14:50 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Azusabo]
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Its propably new animation of sidestepping.
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#218791 - 2008-07-31 16:14 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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http://vision.ameba.jp/watch.do;jsessionid=72ED100570244D57015A69EF2F82F13D?movie=1011199

You can see reanimated throws: Senpuu Enka and 6+P+G. Only for Taka.
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#218799 - 2008-07-31 17:18 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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cool, i like the change in animations in taka, have they changed for jeffrey and wolf?? i like how her 6+P+G seems such an effort just to get take over her shoulder lol

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#218935 - 2008-08-01 15:31 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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Just like in VF3, new animations are only for Taka.
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#219118 - 2008-08-03 11:52 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=nfq9fo23l5s

2K+G knocks down on Major Counter.
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#219256 - 2008-08-04 13:35 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoY6IzgWbFk

NEW VIDEO!

1:00 - new move propably crumples even on normal hit. SWEET!
2:15 - 6K+G P 46K+G 66PK , this is an response for VF5 P+K bounce combo.

And pretty uneccepted wall break!
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#219364 - 2008-08-05 02:55 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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#219382 - 2008-08-05 05:22 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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she looks good 2 me sega haz always hooked pai up


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#219446 - 2008-08-05 14:03 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: DaBadSeed]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=CVWKIBfktD0

NEW!!!

1:03 - 6+P gives stagger after low throw! Yippie yay! :P

kousouha -> P -> P -> P+K (new bounce) -> 66PK = 65 damage
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#219470 - 2008-08-05 16:43 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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i wish it would stagger in generally, with k follow up sheesh :-(

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#219758 - 2008-08-07 12:08 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm2IqPKoODw

CHECK THIS OUT!

76 damage midair combo without any bounces! And propably its easy in pulling off! \:D \:D \:D
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#220033 - 2008-08-09 07:21 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=QcTd1kB0qZc

OMG! YES! AWESOME!

Look at 66KP 84 damage combo! LOOL!
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#220101 - 2008-08-10 00:58 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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it seems as though Pai is better now...what do you guys think?

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#220127 - 2008-08-10 09:47 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: focusflute]
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dont know. She lost some of her good moves, has got weaken throws but maybe new moves such as 46K+G 46P+K will make her deadly as usual.
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#220240 - 2008-08-11 06:54 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZehC4JZuOHU
new vid, pai does 110 damage wall combo, is that the most damaging one weve seen?? also around 0:47 she does some two part punch string which seems garaunteed after d/f +p+g. Is this move mid or high?? me thinks its mid??? if so then potentially she has two new elbows in this move and her double palm

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#220245 - 2008-08-11 08:39 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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At this moment i wanted to paste this link \:\) u were quicker \:\)
I think that new string could be new animation for 64PP (i didnt see this move on any movie) and it hits high mid in my opinion.
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#220246 - 2008-08-11 08:55 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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The punch string you saw, I think is the change made to her old sabaki. (edit: agreed, Konrad)

That wall combo is a little sickening - well done. I'm not sure of the commands exactly, so pardon my ??, but essentially it's the following:

3+P+G --> 64+PP (wall stagger) --> 33,5+K (wall slam) --> 336+P --> 3+K+G? --> P --> ?+K+G? --> 66+PK



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#220302 - 2008-08-11 15:32 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Llanfair]
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This combo imo looks this way:

3P+G -> 64PP (wall) -> 33n+K -> 33P+K(new kousoha input) -> 46K+G -> P -> 3K+G -> 66PK
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#220345 - 2008-08-11 20:14 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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i think the string must be faster as it was garanteed after d/f P+G, hope it still sabakis, i noticed she has two new punch strings, tha one and another, ive seen both in numerous vids

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#220377 - 2008-08-12 02:06 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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The other new string is propably +


Edited by Konradinho (2008-08-12 02:06)
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#220503 - 2008-08-13 09:52 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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Konradinho, thanks for all the updates.

Have there been any changes to the damage of the Senpuu Ega throw (the half circle backwards, 60 pts one)?
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#220505 - 2008-08-13 10:01 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Franz]
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does 55 dmg now :-(

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#220519 - 2008-08-13 13:04 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bmQDOXk4zg

Pai's new pose ... LOL! PANDA MADNESS! xD
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#220545 - 2008-08-13 18:02 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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yeah i saw that, so funny i love it lol, robot panda KAWAII!!!

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#220551 - 2008-08-13 18:51 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Cupcake_Desu]
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OK, VF5R, you have finally gotten my attention! :-D VF5R FTW
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#220581 - 2008-08-14 01:50 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: seven5suited]
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the way she laughs sounds...

like she's gonna run you over.

HARD!
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#220643 - 2008-08-14 15:33 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: LegendaryHero90]
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Pai is crazy!
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#220662 - 2008-08-14 17:47 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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The new videos are a great look at how pai will be and I am somewhat shocked at how good she is now. I don't like how her throws were weakened but new counter hit moves and crumples really make up for it. I can't wait to try her out for myself.
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#220747 - 2008-08-15 04:38 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: shadowmaster]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=gnMGnvoaAiw

New video and more news!

Pai has got 2 new two hit strings
- first is that is used in wall combos
- second is + that is natural combo on MC

New bounce move is +

For sure new input for Kousouha is +

New kick that causes wall splat and slam on MC is +
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#220766 - 2008-08-15 07:43 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: LegendaryHero90]
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 Originally Posted By: LegendaryHero90
the way she laughs sounds...

like she's gonna run you over.

HARD!
hahahahah \:D
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#220916 - 2008-08-16 16:40 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: DaBadSeed]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=33C2xh2Rz7o

You can see new effect with Pai's side throw. When it connects with wall it does ~20 damage and you can continue combo, for ex. with simple 66PK
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#220954 - 2008-08-17 05:17 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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#220969 - 2008-08-17 12:15 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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Just want to say thanks Konradinho for your updates here. You've singelhanded made me think about coming back to playing Pai and stopping to think she's garbage in R.


Edited by KiwE (2008-08-17 12:16)
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#221110 - 2008-08-18 16:57 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: KiwE]
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You are welcome!
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#221572 - 2008-08-22 11:45 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt4m5vaA79A

THIS IS TRUE AWESOMENESS!!! Pai with some luck is really KILLING MACHINE!

New bounce combo:

Side hit + + + + for 77 damage

New followup after ++ low throw!

Back hit + + for 65 damage

New juggle:

+ + + +

And awesome wall combo after + throw!

+ -> wall -> + for 71 damage! PAI IS BETTER THAN EVER xD


Edited by Konradinho (2008-08-22 11:54)
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#221584 - 2008-08-22 13:08 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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Pai kicks all ass now in this version
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#221588 - 2008-08-22 13:26 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Jackira]
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Haha I like that !

Wonder if the combo is really guaranteed after the 6+P+K+G low throw.
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#221622 - 2008-08-22 17:43 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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Pai is so much better than I thought she was in past. She will actually be worth it when a console version finally
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#221795 - 2008-08-24 16:31 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: shadowmaster]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=6P4pgm7i-Og

Pai new win pose in better quality + some new stuff.
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#223145 - 2008-09-05 14:22 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=etfy_wKRZr8

138 damage wall combo?

Starts with side counter P+K then 64PP 7K 33P+K 46K+G P 3K+G 66K+G
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#223148 - 2008-09-05 14:39 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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Pai is looking very good in R. I can't wait to play as her when it's released on the Xbox 360.


Edited by KristinaNardone (2008-09-05 14:40)

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#223153 - 2008-09-05 15:24 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: PompousKristina]
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=OoYRckwd6vs

Look at new Pai freaky combos!
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#223167 - 2008-09-05 17:51 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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 Originally Posted By: Konradinho
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=OoYRckwd6vs

Look at new Pai freaky combos!


That new bounce move she has is it that much better then her old + bounce move because if she can do stuff like that with her new bounce move it makes me really happy to see her finally improved. That last combo was the best one though. and the basic set up for those combos weren't things any good pai player can do. Pai rocks in VF5R big time.
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#224163 - 2008-09-13 17:50 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: shadowmaster]
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i wonder where she will end up in the tier rankings...

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#230633 - 2008-11-09 12:03 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: focusflute]
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http://pl.youtube.com/profile?user=kakukakushikajika&view=videos

To refresh this topic...
Look at these videos. Is Pai really low tier in VF5R ?? \:\)
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#230637 - 2008-11-09 12:33 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Konradinho]
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Nice combos. Some of them are clearly techable but the rest are cool.

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#256531 - 2009-06-25 03:36 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Combolammas]
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any ver.B impressions?

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#257313 - 2009-07-04 10:48 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: focusflute]
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I saw the bun item some time back this is the first time I saw the related win pose:

http://zoome.jp/ripurei/diary/122/

Anyone care to translate what did Pai said in this pose?

Also, this is the first time I see frame advantage being shown in a playback vid. I'm far from the level needed to appreciate it though frown

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#269401 - 2009-12-04 08:36 Re: VF5R Pai - what do you think? [Re: Supid]
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