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#219622 - 2008-08-06 13:05 Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles
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Which (if any) of Lei Fei's stances or moves are close
approximations to anything done in real shaolin kung fu? Like
some of the stuff talked about under dragon and crane at:

http://www.shaolin.com/StyleContent.aspx?Style=Dragon
http://www.shaolin.com/StyleContent.aspx?Style=Crane

Or does shaolin for Lei Fei only refer to his
appearance
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#219624 - 2008-08-06 13:19 Re: Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles [Re: masterpo]
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He uses Shaolin Kung Fu which has thousands of moves. I think it would be hard to say 100% what is and is not valid. It looks cool though heh.
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#219638 - 2008-08-06 14:54 Re: Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles [Re: Auvii]
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 Originally Posted By: Auvii
He uses Shaolin Kung Fu which has thousands of moves. I think it would be hard to say 100% what is and is not valid. It looks cool though heh.


Are you familiar with any of the basic Shaolin forms (e.g. Long Fist)?

Or any of the basic stances?

I don't run into too many people that study any of the old forms or stances, so many are into for good reason (Muai Thai) these days.

I'm curious if anyone recognizes any of Lei Fei's moves as reasonable approximations? I'll post a few illustrations when I get back to my scann
er
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#219639 - 2008-08-06 14:55 Re: Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles [Re: Auvii]
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The funny thing with Shaolin Kung-Fu is, some of the styles they do did not originated at the monastery, like some people believe. The monastery teaches a abundance of Chinese Martial Arts. But of course, they do have styles that ARE link to the monastery (Shaolin Five Animal, Eagle Claw, Monkey, Drunken Boxing, White Eyebrow, Bagua, Mantis..etc)Point being, Lei-Fei does Shaolin, because Shaolin Kung-Fu is more about a fighting system in place, is about incorporating buddah, and self-discipline to oneself. And thats what Lei-Fei repersents.
With that out of the way, Lei-Fei's grapples are base on kung-fu films, like he's new low wall grab, were Lei-Fei performs a film version of"Shadowless Kick"(Stomps on your chest while in mid-air" In real life, the "Shadowless Kick" is not perform that way in Hung-ga style. Is perform by a distraction with the hands, and then two swift kicks(One two the knee, then one to the stomach)while your opponent was to busy following your hands, he never saw the kicks coming.
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#219653 - 2008-08-06 15:56 Re: Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles [Re: masterpo]
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 Originally Posted By: masterpo
 Originally Posted By: Auvii
He uses Shaolin Kung Fu which has thousands of moves. I think it would be hard to say 100% what is and is not valid. It looks cool though heh.


Are you familiar with any of the basic Shaolin forms (e.g. Long Fist)?

Or any of the basic stances?

I don't run into too many people that study any of the old forms or stances, so many are into for good reason (Muai Thai) these days.

I'm curious if anyone recognizes any of Lei Fei's moves as reasonable approximations? I'll post a few illustrations when I get back to my scann
er


No I cant say that I know any Wushu. I just knew there were thousands of moves and figured it would be hard to point at one and say yeh it was accurate. Other then that I would agree it would be neat to find out which are or can be tied to real moves and compare them to real images.
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#255706 - 2009-06-17 14:05 Re: Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles [Re: Auvii]
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All his stances are valid Shaolin stances. To a degree.

Crane and Dragon are there.

The nehan stances' lower body stems directly from relax stance (xie bu). The koko stances' lower body stem from cat stance (xu bu). I'm not sure of the upper body positions though. I'd have to ask my sifu that the next time I'm able to bring VF5 to his house.
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#255717 - 2009-06-17 16:23 Re: Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles [Re: BlackDragon37]
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I used to take Shaolin 5 Animal style... Those are Snake, Crane, Tiger, Leopard and Dragon style.

Lei's moves definitely look like Kung-Fu moves but some of his moves I'm not familiar with. I think his move set is an approximation but it's not exact.

Akira is kinda a combination of several internal styles, not just Baji... Also Bagua and Rotating Plam... even some Tai Chi. I think , his explosive moves are meant to be based on chi strikes; meaning Akira has some internal energy.

I took Bajiquan from a Chinese immigrant named Yu Kai. He could put you right through the wall with his power. He used to walk 17 miles in a deep horse stance just to improve his center and energy. His arms were like lead pipes wrapped in cloth, just so hard and dense it was unbelievable...

The Baji elbow comes out and down so Akira's elbow looks somewhat legit.


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#256973 - 2009-06-30 09:13 Re: Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles [Re: Gernburgs]
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Originally Posted By: Gernburgs
I used to take Shaolin 5 Animal style... Those are Snake, Crane, Tiger, Leopard and Dragon style.

Lei's moves definitely look like Kung-Fu moves but some of his moves I'm not familiar with. I think his move set is an approximation but it's not exact.

Akira is kinda a combination of several internal styles, not just Baji... Also Bagua and Rotating Plam... even some Tai Chi. I think , his explosive moves are meant to be based on chi strikes; meaning Akira has some internal energy.

I took Bajiquan from a Chinese immigrant named Yu Kai. He could put you right through the wall with his power. He used to walk 17 miles in a deep horse stance just to improve his center and energy. His arms were like lead pipes wrapped in cloth, just so hard and dense it was unbelievable...

The Baji elbow comes out and down so Akira's elbow looks somewhat legit.




He used to walk 17 miles in a deep horse stance...

C'mon.... laugh
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#256979 - 2009-06-30 09:52 Re: Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles [Re: masterpo]
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can someone post a picture of this deep horse stance please? basically i just wanna laugh... laugh
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#257119 - 2009-07-01 18:02 Re: Lei Fei's Valid Shaolin stances and styles [Re: Chief_Flash]
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