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#191911 - 2008-02-12 04:01 Extended Command lists with frame analysis & extra
MystD Offline
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Registered: 2004-11-09
Loc: Germany/Hessen/Wiesbaden
http://vfcmd.ath.cx

I've added a lot of stuff, it's still a bit messy though. Since it is really a lot of work that can't be helped.
I made a legend hope it helps understand the lists. If you have any questions, suggestions, bugs you found reply!

Also since this is really a big pile of work, it would be nice if you guys could help out. Even if it is just some small stuff.


Edited by MystD (2008-02-26 12:56)
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#191915 - 2008-02-12 04:54 Re: Extended Command lists with frame analysis & extra [Re: MystD]
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Registered: 2007-10-01
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a) Why did you choose the same layout as VFdc? Why sort them by input again? It's a theoretical question, i personally refer sorting them by height & speed but if there's a reason behind leaving the same order i'll fold.

b) The left column uses and the others don't \:\(

c) As far as vanessa is concerned, The use/followup columns need some work (backwalk as an option after some blocked DS moves like or , DS is also anti-high, OS is not anti-low since it hits high, OS is -5 on block so there's no need to ETEG simple fuzzy will do fine e.t.c. )

d) Since you detailed her options after OS + you can remove the "Continue with sequence " sequence

e) There's an OS catch throw in her DS movelist: right after shadow slicer there's + fake lancer


Edited by erdraug (2008-02-12 05:26)
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#191917 - 2008-02-12 05:02 Re: Extended Command lists with frame analysis & extra [Re: MystD]
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Registered: 2007-04-08
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That's really interesting project, though quite a bit chaotic yet.

But I think I may be able to help you out with Goh Hinogami's extended list.
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#191918 - 2008-02-12 05:14 Re: Extended Command lists with frame analysis & e [Re: Leonard_McCoy]
MystD Offline
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Registered: 2004-11-09
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@erdraug

a) I liked the VFDC command list but always thought there was too much missing so I've started adding the stuff. Also when I copied the pages the sorting function got lost. Since I've just started learning programming, It'll take some time to fix it, or someone needs to help me out.

b)Yea I know its too much to replace the written stuff with the pictures by hand. I'm currently learning C++ I'll write a software to convert the text into the picture form. Also writing it was a lot faster then copy & paste the pictures and since it always needs to get changed the pictures were just too much work.

c) Good to know I'll add it to the D.M.

d) changed

e)fixed

- Could you perhaps tell me all moves where walking back works well.


Edited by MystD (2008-02-12 05:24)
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#191919 - 2008-02-12 05:16 Re: Extended Command lists with frame analysis & e [Re: MystD]
MystD Offline
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Registered: 2004-11-09
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@Leonard_McCoy

Thx a lot and I really appriciate your help.

Well it's in work so I can't help it beeing messy. I'll clear it up bit by bit.

- Tell me if you are changing the list itself then I'll stop editing it till I get your version.


Edited by MystD (2008-02-12 05:19)
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#191937 - 2008-02-12 14:30 Re: Extended Command lists with frame analysis & e [Re: MystD]
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Thanks for sharing your work with the community MystD \:\)

IMHO, most of the information in the extended portion of the move lists are suggested follow-ups (assuming your preference to what moves should be used) in certain situations based on the frame data already available (the extended command list portion might benefit people who do not wish to look at the frame data). There are also more viable options available than what is listed depending on what your opponent does.

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#192054 - 2008-02-14 03:48 Re: Extended Command lists with frame analysis & e [Re: akai]
MystD Offline
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Registered: 2004-11-09
Loc: Germany/Hessen/Wiesbaden
Yes, that is my intention for the lists. It can be used to learn a char. It can also be used to get to know how a char works.
Most of the moves are safe. Of course any move can be used as follow up depending on what the opponent does, but that much information would be impossible to capture ^-^

I'm not perfect with every char, I don't know everything. So I hope everyone will help out to complete the lists as much as possible. Also by pre analysing the chars ppl won't need to spend so many hours analysing them.


Edited by MystD (2008-02-14 08:12)
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#193250 - 2008-02-19 13:34 Re: Extended Command lists with frame analysis & e [Re: MystD]
MystD Offline
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Registered: 2004-11-09
Loc: Germany/Hessen/Wiesbaden
Hmm I thought the lists would be a bit more popular. Well I'll finish every char to 50% and then stop updating them myself. Too much work if only 5 ppl use them.

Edited by MystD (2008-02-19 13:35)
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#193270 - 2008-02-19 16:32 Re: Extended Command lists with frame analysis & e [Re: MystD]
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I'm still on it for Goh. I just finished the PDF version (w/ colored columns for better accessibility and printability, etc) of Goh's Command List from VFDC for my Goh Blog.

Creating an extended list for a character offering possible follow-up options after a move hits, counter-hits or is blocked may be very subjective, but can still help the one or other player gaining new, possible ideas of how to respond in an effective way.
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#193275 - 2008-02-19 17:09 Re: Extended Command lists with frame analysis & e [Re: Leonard_McCoy]
Sorias Offline
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Registered: 2007-11-02
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Seems like an interesting idea, but I haven't even seen them yet. For some reason, my comp refuses to display your webpage, mystd.
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