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#225275 - 2008-09-23 13:38 Re: VF5 Ver.C El Blaze Command List [Re: BK__]
Ladon Offline
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Registered: 2006-03-21
Loc: Miami, FL
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Sabaki info was accidentally (?) put into his fake roll (180). Sabaki versus HP and HK. Sabaki occurs at frames 1-15.

The movelist doesn't say what frame advantage you have after a successful sabaki either. I don't know myself, but suffice to say that after a successful HP sabaki you have + guaranteed, and after a successful HK sabaki you have +>+ guaranteed.

Needless to say, the followups to the sabaki are also guaranteed~
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#225321 - 2008-09-23 18:49 Re: VF5 Ver.C El Blaze Command List [Re: Ladon]
BK__ Offline
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Registered: 2001-09-11
Loc: London
XBL GT: LONDONcrew BK
firstly, i'd like to apologize for posting in the wrong thread, i was meant to put this in the commands list thread >__<

- i didnt know about those garanteed hits during sabaki, cheers for that -- but the trouble with this sabaki is that it's not ideal at disadvantage like most sabakis which are intended for mid attacks..

i dont really get how to use this one, seems like raw yomi, or just *being flashy against reverse nitaku* --

regardless, blaze has many crazy tools, so it's all good \:\)



Edited by BK__ (2008-09-23 18:52)
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#225325 - 2008-09-23 19:40 Re: VF5 Ver.C El Blaze Command List [Re: BK__]
Ladon Offline
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Registered: 2006-03-21
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personally, i use it when people do mid-high strings. Its fast execution time lets it work as long as your reflexes are fast enough, and you know your opponent and his character's strings well enough.
Good examples are Sarah's Flamingo stance, Jacky's who use delayed , Kage's that spam or , Lau's that love PPP strings or , Shun's that throw out predictably... the list is endless.
If you use the move like this, as well as delaying the follow-up attacks and mixing in with some 0 frame madness, you can see why I feel that this move is very important for Blaze. His hits mid, is half-circular, leads to the hit throw on normal hit, and is -6 on block.
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#225340 - 2008-09-23 21:17 Re: VF5 Ver.C El Blaze Command List [Re: Ladon]
BK__ Offline
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Registered: 2001-09-11
Loc: London
XBL GT: LONDONcrew BK
i can see how it can be convenient to gain free advanage off strings. however keeping in mind that if you can read the string equally well, and duck under the high, then you generally get a higher reward than +14 in most cases.


but eh, it is what it is. ¬¬ use it, abuse it.


Edited by BK__ (2008-09-23 21:25)
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#229481 - 2008-10-29 12:59 Error in Blaze movelist framestats on 2k+g
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Registered: 2003-05-15
Loc: Northern Lights (Sweden)
Legend says it's +6 on normalhit which it clearly is not
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