For Honor

Any VFers looking to try out Ubisoft's For Honor? Or has anyone already had some experience with it, and would like to share their thoughts? From what I've seen, it looks pretty interesting and the fighting game mechanic looks quite in-depth (enough) from both an offensive and defensive perspective.

There's an open beta commencing 9 - 12 February.

 

@ShinyBrentford @Stl_Tim

 

I'll get it on PS4, but it's cool to see that it'll be enabled for cross-platform play as well.

 

LOL @ the No Honor video!

Have to admit, while still coming to grips with the controls, and until teching a guard break becomes second nature, it's hard not to feel a little salty at the ease at which someone can ring you out. The other thing that I struggled with was the different ways outside the GB > Throw in which someone could "push" you out. Some characters have shoulder charging moves, tackles, etc, which can push you out and, in some cases, pick you up and carry you long distances! I'm still not sure how to deal with these effectively!? When your instinct to GB tech at the sight of someone "grabbing/charging" you doesn't work, it feels disheartening! I really wish the training mode had a record/playback feature just to figure this shit out!

Anyway, I think it'd sit better (with me) if the stage designs didn't have insta-win by RO as an immediate option from the start position. I get that it creates high stakes from the get-go, but that's a pretty steep learning curve to climb on day zero.

Alternatively, if you inject some VF into this mechanic, you allow GB's to be untechable but the follow-ups (strike or throw) can be guardable/escapable provided you guess correctly. So you would escape the throw by guessing the direction (ala VF), maybe at the cost of stamina, but the wrong guess leaves you vulnerable to other, typically non GB-guaranteed attacks. Just a thought.

Having been on both the giving (see below) and receiving end of a RO victory, I'm not too bothered by it. Considering I've only played the game for a few hours over the Open Beta weekend, I think I need to allow myself more time to get better at the game before crying cheap over something I might struggle with.

Overall, I really enjoyed the game but that's mainly playing the 1v1 duel mode. Didn't really care about the other modes and meta games at all, seemed too chaotic for my tastes. I'll probably keep going with it once it's fully released, focusing on 1v1 and see how I go.

BTW, this video below is the last match I had during the Open Beta weekend, and it had to be against a rage quitter!

 

I'm pretty sure you can't evade a GB!

 

Ah, right, you're talking about those glowing charges/tackles? Yeah, they can be dodged.

But the traditional button-press Guard Break that everyone has? They can't.

 

Yep, that's right, and that's the point I was making earlier in that there was no consistent way to deal with Guard Breaks > Throws and Unblockable Throws (the glowing shit).

 

What are you saying "no" to, specifically? Aren't you agreeing with me?

It doesn't matter what you call them (the game calls them Guard Breaks, but you can call them throws, it doesn't matter), the point I was making ...

To elaborate: there's no consistent way to deal something that visually look like it's grabbing you. Depending on what that thing is (GB > Throw, OR, Unblockable), a different defensive response is required:

1. Guard Break > Throw: can only be dealt with by teching the Guard Break (timing the button press, which you described). Once you're guard broken, you can't do anything about the throw. Also, if you see the Guard Break icon (red broken shield) you cannot evade, and I'm pretty sure it's too late to attack. Basically, once the red broken shield icon appears, you can't do anything but tech.

2. The Unblockables (glowing moves): the guard break button here is useless. Instead, you have to evade and, in some cases when they don't have armour, you can attack them.

So, you really have to train yourself to respond to the visual ques of flashing icons or glowing body parts/limbs, instead of the obvious and glorious animation occurring right before you.