One quick question about Akira

Hey guys, I have a question and hopefully get the answer.
Well, the thing is about Akira's

I had couple matches with Plague last night and I found something I couldn't realize by myself. The thing is that almost everytime(99% I guess) when I was doing ETEG, I would get a CH hit by Akira's . Actually this happened before but I thought it's just a coincidence and I never faced this issue seriously. However, I did test last night when I was playing with Plague and apparently I had nothing to do about this.

First of all, the entire situation is when I block or hit by Akira's , I do ETEG immediately. And the point is after that I will definiatly get a CH by his . I believe that's because the CPU judge my situation is hit during those ETEG inputs. No matter how many inputs I reduce, I can't change this result and get a CH no question. The only way I can solve it is DO NOT import any input when I evade, which means I need to sacrifice my TEs, that's it.

Secondly, I'm wondering can anyone block Akira's by seeing the animation? I tried to do that but it turns out I failed. I knew I couldn't evade anymore coz I would get a CH again so I was trying to block Akira's or after his . I did fuzzy right after his to avoid his and throws, but I didn't have time to crouch if he used after my fuzzy, so the only way for me was to GUESS either one of these two choices.

I hope someone can explain the questions above coz I was trying to reduce my risk after Akira's . Is there anything I should notice? All I did was trying to make the situation back to even based on the defence.I don't believe it's worth to gamble with Akira.

Btw, is it +4 after blocking Akira's ?
How come I couldn't hit back by using Jacky's when Akira used immediately? Am I wrong?

 

Did you play online?

I know the low backfist tracks if you do ETEG. I hadn't realized it Counterhits. This is the kind of weakness ETEG has against slow moves, the only way to avoid is to do an empty evade (no TE inputs. )

Akiras low backfist should be -5 on block.

 

Yes, this happened online and I can't find anyone to test offline.
I hope someone can figure out this if you guys play offline and prove that I am wrong..

Like I said, the only way I found out to avoid this CH is not to do any input. However, this will being me into another dead end if I sacrifice TEs. I can't find any slow move exactly like Akira's 3P+K so I'm not able to test it. Any suggestion??

-5 for Akira right? So I should be able to hit back by using Jacky's 6PK against Akira's 66P. That's weird I failed. Anyway I'll pay attention next time, thanks.

 

I believe you can save the online replay and check his inputs too, if you do rematches.

The fact that you couldnt interrupt DE after blocking low backfist suggests there was some heavy lag involved..

 

Best way i've found to deal with it at minor disadvantages is to do Fuzzy Guard then get ready to hold if you see the move coming out, + has a slow execution speed so it works pretty well.

Also if you are only at a minor disadvantage and you're really expecting your opponent to do + then you could risk attempting a launcher or whatever. Like I said earlier + has slow exe, there's lots of moves that'll come out quicker than it.

 

Yes, I think I should save some matches next time. But is there any effect to check online match?
First, I believe I shouldn't be hit by a CH even I was during ETs.I hope the reason is the timing window is too restictive online. Considering on blocking Akira's 3P+K, can anyone do this after fuzzy? I'll be happy if someone say it's possible.

 

Yes it's possible, I explained how to do it in my other post

It's probably not going to work too well for you online though, I try it a lot and it doesn't work anywhere near as well as it does offline

 

Haha, I hope this question is a stupid one too!!
Our matches are always in a good connection, which means if I can't solve this situation here and I'll fail in any other match too.

 

Yes, its quite possible.. It is actually one of the blocking trials in VF4Evo. Fuzzy then block df+P+K on reaction. however, don't forget that online lag gives you less reaction time, so things that you think should be possible, suddenly turn out to be too hard.

 

Dennis, it sounds like lag to me. In fact, I get counterhit in lag situations alot. It can be a huge challenge. You can either play for the heck of it, or just refuse to play them again.

 

I had a similar experience the other day, I was fighting a Russian Pai, it was 3 bar connection and it LOOKED fine, and at times felt fine, but then I started getting hit out of things very weirdly. I know I had advantage but then suddenly I was hit out of it and got counterhitted a LOT.

 

ahahaha Plague does it again. Really I wish I could use this move like how he does. Even when I was at Socal and I played against I was like <span style="font-size: 11pt">O_O</span> how the hell is he doing this?

8-9 losses in a row later I think my eyes were still bleeding from amazement. Dude seriously... what is your secret?

Dennis it's like they said, since Talis just seems to have the knack for putting the right amount of delay on this move you are often getting hit because Akira's arms are flailing all over the place from a fail ETEG.

 

usually i can low punch cut akira's 3P+K. but i have to guess in advance to be successful. it's hard to see at first, but if you train your eyes hard enough, you should be able to block this move on reaction. it's very similar to wolf's 3P+K.

 

You are absolutely right Myke. I noticed I got CH when I was doing throw miss animation and I'm totally okay with that. But the following step was I reduced my TE(input) to only 1 direction, however, I still got CH at the end. The entire animation was like " I got a CH when I was during the walking(evading) period". To be honest, I still don't know why.

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Yes, you are right again. When I realized I should go back to fuzzy, I still had nothing to deal with the following 3P+K. I either hold 2 in advance or just ignore it. I was not able to block it when I saw Akira's animation.

 

I hope this situation only happens online dude. But the thing is our connection between me and Plague are always good enough. Which means there's no huge lag I need to concern. But apparently, I think the window for 3P+K is too restrict to do anything.

 

Haha, I never 100% trust how many bars I have. Sometimes 3 bars is worse than 2 bars for me. And even I have 3 bars with some specific characters like Brad or Blze, I don't think it's fair enough for me coz mostly I can't struggle or hit back in an appropriate timing. But all these happens to their fast moves!! How slow Akira's 3P+K is? I never thought I have a problem with a slow move~~

 

Dude, I believe you totally understand what I was talking about!!
Yes, Talis used delay for his 3P+K and that's why I couldn't evade his move instead of getting a CH. Do you think the reason is I fail the ETEG? I'm pretty sure you have the same idea with Myke but what if I say I only did 1 direction on ETEG? Do you still believe I got a CH due to my fail? I'm surprised if I fail 1 direction ETEG with a throw miss animation.
I won't mind if I get a NH coz I never intend to do low block after my ETEG. But I don't think I deserve a CH either.

 

Actually I should did something feedback like you but I insisted to find the way out by defense on that moment. If you can block 3P+K on reaction, does that mean you can also evade it on reaction??