Taka Combos

I can't belive what i see.

The ender is in 1:27 is marvelous! Seems pretty cool, and isn't an easy input.

The isn't better than the ? Or it can't connect?

 

Actually both can connect. ender "only" deals 98dmg.
And has better wake up game than . So use if you need.

Trying in training mode I could make it connect with a ender against Taka. The needs a timing but it deals 107dmg.

Then correct combo against Taka is :
+ W! W! tachi'ai + (delay) - 107dmg

Use the ender if you can't get the timing right.

 

Thats intreresting! The deals less damage than the ? I have to check it out.

Thank you!

 

I tired, and you are right!
It is strange, because the and are equally does 30 damage. I really don't understand how works the dmg scaling in VF.

However if you want +3 dmg, you need change the to +:

+W! + tachi'ai + W! - 110 dmg

And this is also strange for me, because the + does less dmg than the .

 

Very nice !! And + is still i17 (less time for stagger than HCF + which is i18) !
Yeah the damage scaling is kinda weird sometimes.

 

Three thing this morning that I didn't see posted here :

1) CH _ _ + is combo for 76dmg.

Happened to me sometimes and I didn't know what to do after HCF CH. I used to do afterward but this is definitively better.
The window for 6_P is kinda large, you can do 236P on reaction in order to get 6_P easily.

2) Every + W! you got (it happens a lot of time since 6P+KPP is the ender for most Taka's combo), I already posted that you can combo with + afterward for additional damage.
BUT You can even combo with instead of + for 3 more points of damage.

EDIT : Use 33P against Shun since it sobers 1 DP

The good part about using + is that indeed you lose some damage (and only 3 points, not that much of a big deal). But your wake up game is better :
If they raise up immediatly seems forceblock (EDIT : It isn't but it's still nice).
If they don't, you know the drill : into grouded is your friend for additional damage.

3) Playing with Tachi'ai + in the lab, I found a kinda nice wall combo :

Tachi'ai + W! W! Tachi'ai + W! - 95dmg

This is the max I could get, if you know better, don't hesitate to share !

 

On lightweights you can do 426P CH, 6_P, 33P+K 6P+KPP for 91 damage. Works up to Vanessa.

 

Exactly. I worked on this in the weekend.


btw the _ ... thing is a nice find. I never know that CH is a starter without wall. Nice work guys!

 

Very nice ! Thank you for sharing !

Another find :

CH Tachi'ai _ _ _ against most lightweights (could get it to work against Sarah and under) characters for 74dmg. Timing dependant. Need further research into it.

CH Tachi'ai _ _ - 74 dmg is garanteed against Eileen. No timing required.

 

You can do Tachi K CH, 1PP, 2P, 6KK on Sarah.

 

Nice ! I am preparing a post about Tachi'ai K CH to complete the combos.
You can also do CH Tachi'ai K (dash) 2P 1PP 6KK against other character when 1PP 2P 6KK doesn't work for the same amount of damage (72dmg).

Here's some more Tachi'ai combos :
- Tachi'ai , , + , , : 80dmg all the cast expect Akira, Jeffry, Wolf and Taka. Finally found a use for !!
- Tachi'ai , , + , : 82dmg for Akira, Jeffry and Wolf

Will try to find some better combos against Taka.

About + :
Reno said that + , +, is only garanteed against lightweight only characters.
That's actually wrong. It is garanteed against all the cast except Akira, Jeffry, Wolf and Taka.
It deals 87dmg btw.

 

Tachi'ai P, 43P, 33P+K, K+GK works on everyone up to Akira and does 82dmg. You can do the same combo from 44P+K for 86 dmg up to Jean. Also works off CH side hit 3P+K.

 

After 9K, 6KK (only on normal hit as 6K on itself launches on CH) 4K+G, 43P and on stomach, head toward low rising kick (position after Jean 6P+G, for example) you can universally do 1PP, 33P+K. On lightweights, 1PP, 2P, 3P+K for more damage and on Eileen and Blaze, 1PP, 6KK or 1PP, 2P, K.

I'm going to list random comboes next, sorry if they're already known; CH K+GK, very slight dash forward 1PP, 2P, 3P+K. This works ONLY on normal CH K+GK, on crouch hit, either CH or normal hit, the opponent gets pushed too far away for the combo to work.

After 46P+G, 6P+G against Wolf and Jeff: 1PP, 6KK. On Jean, lighter midweights and lightweights 1PP, K+GK, on Eileen and Blaze, 1PP, 6P+KPP.

P+K comboes only from closed stance: On Jean, P+K, P, 4PPP. On Eileen and Blaze, P+K, P, 33P+K, 6P+KPP.

With some strange timing that I haven't figured out yet, you can do 4P+KP, 1PP, 6KPP on Eileen and Blaze. I'll have to look into this more.

 

My first Taka Arashi combo vid:

 

Nice video !
I was in training mode checking what to do when I connect with CH + and you teached me a very nice Vanessa specific combo !
PS : thank you for quoting me at the end of the video

 

Well, thanks for the ender! It is massive, and works with everyone.

 

Addendum to all of this :

:
- , + 70dmg is combo against Eileen only

+ :
- , + , + 74dmg is garanteed all stance against Eileen and Aoi. Only garanteed against Blaze closed stance. PS : If you do P instead of 6_P it's only garanteed against Eileen closed stance.
- , , 70dmg is the garanteed best damage against other lightweights.
- , 67dmg is garanteed against all of lightweight characters too ! I didn't know it was garanteed against Jean, nice find !

+ :
- dash , 75dmg is garanteed against Eileen and Blaze. No timing required, just be sure to dash correctly before 1PP imput.

And btw... , it's not K+GK but K+GP

Speaking of which :
CH + :
- , + : 95dmg Aoi, Eileen, Blaze
- , + : 91dmg Pai, Sarah, Lion, Shun Di
- , 94dmg Vanessa
- , , : 88dmg other middle wieght characters - Deals 93dmg against Jean
- , + : 83dmg Akira
- , : 82dmg Jeffry, Wolf
- , + : 83dmg Taka

If you know better, don't hesitate to share

 

Yeah, P+K, P, 4PPP works on Jean, but from closed only. Sometimes distance is a factor, so you'll have to use 6_P for 4PPP to connect, and sometimes even that doesn't help, so you'll have to do the normal 1PP, 6P+KPP stuff.

And yes, you are right that it's K+GP, I'm an idiot. By the way, CH K+GP, 1PP, 2P, K doing more damage on Jean, it's just because of this: http://virtuafighter.com/threads/jean-takes-more-damage-than-other-characters.15927/

By the way, about 43P, it would be good to learn how to hitconfirm this move as on hit you get a combo, but on block you have advantage (+1) and can go into Tachi'ai. I'm not sure do you lose the advantage if you late cancel into Tachi, will have to test, but otherwise it's a good pressure move on your opponent's wakeup. If hitconfirming into Tachi on block feels hard and you accidentally do it even when 43P hit, you can get 43P~Tachi P+K_K as a combo, with P+K doing the most damage.

 

You lose the advantage if you cancel to Tachi'ai after 43P.
I wrote it all in the Tahci'ai stance data thread.

 

iv used some of those combos but ended them differently i have on that works on the wall but its not easy to do