Vf5fs plus on guard moves[Vanessa]

Hi mates i hope it will be interesting

p.s. never say never=)


Vanessa plus on guard moves:
1) defensive style 3 2) defensive style 3) defensive style 4) offensive style
5) offensive style 6) offensive style 9 7) offensive style 4
8) offensive style 24 9) offensive style 64 10) offensive style 4
11) defensive style 4 12) defensive style 9 13) defensive style 46
14) offensive style 15) offensive style 16) offensive style 2
17) offensive style 6 18) defensive style 9

 

Thank you very much! As always, very good to know, whether you're playing as or against Vanessa!

I was going to ask you if you could also do something similar for moves that become positive on block when side-blocked - but then i realized you're doing these videos for the entire cast which means you probably don't have the time

So, if I'm reading the command lists correctly, here's a list for everyone else:

BOTH Styles
Escaped side throws +2

Defensive Style

DS +1 (requires +2 frames advantage)
DS +1 (requires +7 frames advantage)
DS +1 (requires +10 frames advantage)
DS +2 (recovers low; requires +10 frames advantage)

Offensive Style

OS +3
OS +1 (requires +7 frames advantage)
OS +6 (requires +12 frames advantage)
OS +3 (requires +14 frames advantage)
OS jump +1 (requires +37 frames advantage)
OS +5 (recovers low (i think); requires +47 frames advantage)

Also DS/OS BT , DS/OS BT + and DS BT , although i really can't imagine how Vanessa would end up BT while the opponent is sideturned

Hmmm, maybe DS hit > blocked? But then again why do that?

Anyway, the DS moves that become positive on block when sideturned are actually fast enough to be useful. They don't yield a big frame advantage but standing +1/crouching +2 is enough for vane's low/while standing punch to beat most attacks.

 

i can't see the video but the list is missing OS 9p. it really shouldn't be. being +2 on block on that move is beautiful considering it has great range and crushes lows. i personally think it's a staple out of the OS stance.

 

OS is in @EfreeteG's vid (move #6 @00:12) no worries

Moves that are already positive on block will obviously be (even more) positive on block when sideturned.

EDIT 19 May 2015: Vanessa's frame traps has been a recurring shoutbox theme for the past couple of years so I made this thread sticky.

I would also like to add a small comment about DS : the move is -1 on block and, as mentioned above, it will become +2 when sideblocked. However, since the move has 4 active frames and a long reach, its frames on regular "front" block can sometimes change from -1 to 0, +1 or even +2, depending on the distance!

EDIT 09 June 2022: When the opponent techrolls Vanessa's neutral throw, Vanessa recovers first. Preliminary testing places her at +2.