VS 2p using PHASE TURN/OM P at +2

-note cannot crouch fuzzy at -6 to block 2p.
PHASE turn tested on blocked elbow into Phase turn to dodge 2p. I had different outcome with 4k.. but i didnt bother to do it. Tested up close, things change when ur further away(probably)


AK=ANY STANCE=stomach ======= om=stomach
AOI=ANY STANCE=BACK ========= om=BACK
BRAD=ANY=STOMACH ============ om=stomach
EI=NONE ===============OM= cl/stomach,OP/any
EL=NONE ================OM= OP/back
GOH=ANY=stomach======= OM=stomach
JA=ANY=stomach =========OM=cl/stomach, OP/any
JEF=CL/ANY,op/stomach========OM=any
KAGE=CL/stomach,OP/NONE======OM=cl/stomach, OP/ANY
LAU=NONE =============OM=BACK
LEI=BACK ==============OM=back
LION=NONE================OM=CL/stomach,OP/ANY
PAI=BACK =================OM=back
SA=CL/back < off 4k, cl or op=back
===========OM ANY
SHUN=NONE =============OM=back
VA=CL/any, OP/NONE =========OM=cl/stomach, open/any
WO=ANY ======OM = ANY <WOOT!>

 

What about when Wolf 0 frames you? btw, you can low throw brad when he ducks.

 

these are just options to consider ( :

 

Err huh? Whats this mean?

Also a reminder, Brads duckings (or phasing turn) beats throws when done from disadv but doesnt beat attacks.

edit: also, I don't know how to read that chart.

 

the first portion is PT...when i did ============ that's OM.

first portion is PHASE TURN. i wrote the stances. if it says any.. than open or clo=any... when i did ================ thats the OM PORTION. i didnt wanna do 2 threads.

I rushed it, my bad.

 

I know mid one is already done, so i use that link and i remember it, vs mids, i was curious about 2p cus i have seen vids where it goes through 2p so i thought i test it out.

the OM was kinda off topic. I just jotted alot of notes and wanted to share what i tested thats all.

 

Who the hell wrote that chart Pootie Tang?

Im Lost.

 

Okay, let's examine it step by step.

AK=ANY STANCE=stomach

This means that from either foot position after a guarded , you can use PT towards Akira's stomach to avoid the opponent's .

======= om=stomach

After Akira guards your , you can use OM towards his stomach to avoid his . The foot position wasn't specified. Maybe it works from both foot positions.


The only question I have is concerning why your opponent would want to use after guarding Brad's elbow. Maybe they'll attempt it if you delay the canned too often.


EDIT: Another question about the title. What does "+2" have to do with this?

 

nono at plus +2
P guarded OM.

If i didnt specify than it means any libertine.like ex, lei, i just said back, because op/cl it both work. Sorry im not good at doing charts

 

If phase turn and OM in that chart don't have any relation to each other, why not simply create two lists, one for PT and one for OM instead of trying to squeeze both into one and spend much more effort trying to explain it to people?

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Btw, Mack. I checked OM at +4 and +2 with jacky and got the same results at either advantage. Tested +2 with Wolf and had the same as well so I reckon it's probably the same, if not incredibly similar, across the entire cast.

My Jacky stuff is in this thread.

 

ooh nice chart u did Myke
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thnks
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i was reading about the overlap section in the WIKI on PHASE TURN.

i duno if u wanna add this but. besides AOI,LEI,SA (any to the back), WOLF always to stomach....

I see also an overlap with this:
BRAD OPEN: FRONT
JACKY CLOSED: FRONT
JEFF CLOSED: BACK
PAI OPEN: BACK
VA CLOSED: BACK

still alot to remember, i actually like that they rmv this in FS didnt they?

 

i was thinking PH T can be also useful for moves that cannot be hitchecked into "stance entry" or at least hard to.

like 4P SL/SR into PH ( u have a lil more time watching the recovery of the SL/SR to then PH T)

4k if ur not sure. but 4k, sl p / sl r beats alot of options even on block.

6p Sl,SR. While ur anticipating crouch stag, or if you dont get the stag and get the 6p blocked then u can watch the recovery of the SL/SR and PH T after. PH T u can kinda do it slow neways.