I found a couple new combos in a magazine that I tried today: lightweights, middle with counter: shoulder- P- shoulder- DblPm this combo is really tough, I only got it 2 or 3 times. Seem slike the trick is to do the 2nd shoulder and the palm as fast as possible. lightweights: PIT- RBC- SDE- P- shoulder- DblPm this one's not so tough. You have to get the face down head away hit for it to work. The first 3 hits will connect against midweights too, and I imagine you can tack on a little something else as well instead of the palm. But, this thread is actually to talk about something that I wasn't sure I could just post about without betraying a friend's confidence. I'm going up to SF tommorow, and I'll be going to SOA to visit my friend Noah. He's informed me that they have an early PS2 version in the house, and I've got permission to see it. I'll be there tommorow or friday. They've also got a finished english manual (which is in color), so I should be able to check out the feature set. As of right now, he seems to think that the "kyu/dan" individual character ranking features are in, and he mentioned that they had to come up with 15 different default ringnames to give different CPU AI characters (?). I'm not sure what this means, but it looks like players can have several different versions of AI for each character, or that maybe several are already there? I'll try to figure it all out. I'm not sure if they're gonna let me play, but I'm taking my namco stick just in case. He said I can play the arcade version all I want, so that might mean I can't play the PS2, I'm not sure yet. At worst, I'll at least be able to check out the graphics. I've got a pretty good eye for that shit, but if there's anything anyone wants me to look out for, let me know here. Certain textures, strange poly stuff, alaising etc...? I'll probably have all the info I can get posted saturday afternoon. Spotlite PS this is not BS or a hoax. And there's always a changce someone at SOA will get a bug up thier ass and not let me see it, so keep your fingers crossed.