Comboproblems with Goh

I have again a problem with Goh.
His second Combo is , , +
I can´t reconstruct how to enter the last move so fast that I get a succes at this and other combos from Goh.
I tried to enter for one or a little bit more frames but it was useless. How do you enter the last action + ?

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

You need to modify the shoulder ram with a crouch dash. By modifying crouching moves in this way, you can do "from crouching" moves instantly from a standing position in combos.

Basically what you need to know is the commands you want to enter:

> > +

That's the easiest way to get the combo to connect.

Some people (such as myself) prefer to modify from crouching moves with a backwards crouch dash. So the motion would be,

+

or maybe even,

+

(I use the second of these to modify all my moves).

Modifying these moves with crouch dashes is essential to many characters, for example Akira's combo,

> > + >

would be impossible without using crouch dashes.

Just keep practising.

 

If you'r playing from pad instead of stick (judging from fact you are from Germany, it is easilly possible), you can perform FC moves which includes simply (or ) command at their end easily as or

So this combo can by easily performed as , , ++.

Pad only, from stick is this way of performing FC moves pointlessly slow

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

Why both with so many inputs?

It is easily possible to do a clean crouch dash modifer on a pad or a stick.

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

Hmm... From pad I found really much more easier and quicker to perform those moves this way. In real, it is quarter circle from forward to down and then back, which can be done really easy and quickly with your thumb.

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

Yes, but so can a simple motion.

Anyways it's down to personal preference I guess but I would always advise a new player to modify in the "traditional" way rather than confuse them with alternate ways.

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

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LM_Akira said:
I would always advise a new player to modify in the "traditional" way rather than confuse them with alternate ways.

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That's true; thanx for reminding that it is not neccesary give advices, but learn how to play this game.

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

No, there is nothing wrong with what you're saying or why you're giving advice, I was just pointing out that it's often best to teach a beginner the solid basics of the game first.

If you're new to the game, it's easier to understand that

or

actually result in your character crouching down into the position, hence they can understand that you can use this crouch dash to crouch dash into a "from crouching" move.



would be confusing to a new player I'm guessing as it's not clear why you're doing this motion or what it will result in. Each to their own.

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

as a pad player it is much easier for me to do 33 than 11 since i have to hit my 1's with the proximal end of my thumb. (1p side), on 2p side, opposite deal. This is actually severely detrimental to my akira play, but doesn't affect much else.

Maybe i should try this modify stuff.

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

O.K. LM_Akira your aplication was very good. But there is a last problem +,,. I can´t beat my enemy for the last . Is this the same pattern as the crouching for example: +,, ?

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

I actually feel too lazy to figure this out right now, but I'm assuming you should input it as:

+

the important part bein the , hold forward, then press punch, it gives you added distance, and will allow the last part of the combo to connect.

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

Either that or it's actually +, , +, which only works in open stance.

 

Re: Combo problems with Goh

Further to Dandy's comment, I would also advise inputing the the combo as:

+ > >

It is possible that you're wasting frames in waiting for the jab to recover before following with the beatdown move, so guard cancel it and then enter the to avoid any kind of delay.

Generally, the only time you need to modify a move with a crouch dash within a combo is when you see a move like or + or for example either in the middle or at the end of the combo.

If you're already in a crouching position in the middle of a combo (after doing a say) you don't need to modify crouching moves, you can simply do the last part of the moves command.

EXAMPLES:

With Goh, if you do the combo,

+ > > > +

you need to modify the shoulder ram so that it comes out from a standing position.


With Akira, if you do the combo,

+ > >

you don't need to modify the last move (double palm) as you are already crouched after the low jab. You simply do and the double palm will come out.