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EA's MMA Over before it started?

Discussion in 'General' started by masterpo, Oct 25, 2010.

  1. masterpo

    masterpo VF Martial Artist Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    lastmonk
  2. sixtwo

    sixtwo Well-Known Member

    This would be unfortunate, but I'm hearing a lot of insider rumbling that this in fact may be the case.

    I guess the game is not selling well, and I think us getting the UFC license until 2018 was also a killer blow.

    I'm hoping the team can land on their feet and get a new project going.
     
  3. masterpo

    masterpo VF Martial Artist Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    lastmonk
    Its not selling well that's not a shock(heard the preorders were not good). Its a nice first start. EA's MMA has some nice ideas, but its a subset of the UFC 2010 game. It is like buying ESPN football with no NFL teams and half the features that Madden has. Even if for example they really improved the running game, or the passing game, or fixed the problems with defense that Madden was having, it would be hard for ESPN to make headway.


    That's the case with MMA. I purchased it, I like it. But its not a replacement for my UFC games, not by a long shot [​IMG]

    Sixtwo, I hope you guys take the one or two good ideas the EA MMA game has, fix the remaining issues with 2010 and just give us a solid offering in 2012 and evry 18-24 months after that. A patch that balances subs against the AI in single player between now and 2012 would be gravy [​IMG]

    Anyway may the best man win.
     
  4. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    I gotta play UFC2010 with some of y'all
     
  5. gl0ry

    gl0ry Well-Known Member

    SF4 sold way better than VF5, but it doesn't make SF4 the superior game.

    Both of the MMA games just casual entertaining in my eyes and when it boils down to it I honestly think EA MMA is the better game and more fun, but it's just my opinion.

    EA MMA's netcode and features are also way better.
     
  6. masterpo

    masterpo VF Martial Artist Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    lastmonk
    UR right about SF4 vs VF5. VF5 is the true masterpiece in that comparison.

    But UFC 2010 vs EA's MMA C'mon maan.......

    Sure UFC 2010 has some balance issues in the jiu jitsu game, and there are still some issues with online play, but UFC 2010 is more than twice the game EA's MMA is. For example:

    EA has 16 out of 27[/size] assignable moves for each CAF

    UFC 2010 has 70+[/size] assignable moves for CAF


    EA's MMA has 30 or so canned training scenarios in the
    career mode, with NO practice mode or dojo

    UFC 2010 has both tutorial mode and practice mode.
    Practice mode lets you set almost unlimited defensive and
    offensive scenarios with context sensitive help to let you
    know what your options are on offensive or defensive from
    every MMA position you can be in.

    For live in person VS (p vs p) EA's MMA has NO[/size]:

    tournament mode
    event mode

    For single player EA's MMA has No[/size]:

    title mode
    title defense mode
    event mode
    tournament mode
    practice mdoe


    EA has a very nice implementation of wrestling and Jiu Jitsu and the ground game. Very nice parry, blocking system, and foot work system nice very nice. But not much support for Muay Thai, it lacks a lot of the knee and elbow game, for example elbows and knees during side control are missing. Elbows when in clinch range are missing, elbows while opponent is gainst the cage are missing. Also many of the karate kicks alla Lyoto
    Machida are just not available, all of the various reverse side and back kicks that UFC 2010 has are missing in EA's MMA.
    EA's MMA does a very good job on the ground game, but its at the expense of the striking and standup game.

    EA's MMA control scheme is a lot smoother and simpler, but that's because it has half the moves that UFC 2010 has.

    And I won't even mention overall presentation i.e. music, menu graphics, mode transitions, referee usage, card girls, corner men etc. UFC 2010 obliterates EA' MMA in these areas. Although I am lovin the fact that you can select entrance music for your fighter.


    For those who play both games and they are jiu jitsu stylist, or wrestlers there going to be happier with EA's MMA, because the subs, transitions, reversals, and blocks all work nicely in EA's MMA and there are problems in UFC 2010. But if UR partiail to the stand up and striking game and you don't get into all that sweaty rear naked choking then you'll recognize right off the bat how many moves and techniques are missing from EA's MMA and you'll probably prefer to play UFC 2010.

    EA really does a good job with Wrestling and Jiu Jitsu, but drops the ball on Muay Thai, Kickboxing, Karate,Judo and Boxing. At best EA's MMA is a complementary game to UFC 2010. TBH Fans of MMA should buy them both. But if you could only have one of these games, UFC 2010 is the most complete game between the two of them. EA's MMA is a good first start but it can't replace UFC 2010 not by a long shot [​IMG]
     
  7. TheUgg

    TheUgg Well-Known Member

    masterpo.... once again you prove that you are an absolute moron. There is a fucking practice mode... its called free sparring. its available after learning any type of move and there is also an extensive training mode for each aspect of the game. The striking and ground game in ufc 2010 are laughably horrible compared to EA mma(button presses for striking suck). you have fun maneuvering your stiff action figures around the ring(that never endure any type of damage), Ill keep playing EA MMA. btw MORE does NOT equal better, especially in undisputeds case. I will take fun and rewarding gameplay, over huge amounts of pointless features shoehorned in. Get off Thq's dick. you also come across as a complete UFC fanboy!
    the laggy ass broken multiplayer in undisputed also sucks balls! Sad an excellent game cant sell well because it doesnt have the license the average know-nothing wants(masterpo)
     
  8. masterpo

    masterpo VF Martial Artist Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    lastmonk
    @TheUgg I'm always amused when ppl who can't effectively articulate their point resort to name calling, profanity, and misinformation.

    TheUgg I'm also surprised at you, because you have access to VF's dojo and training mode. You know what a real practice mode allows you to do. You know it allows you to set up offensive and defensive scenarios. You know that it shows the use of moves in the movelists and how things look. You know it gives you the amount of damage some attack you're performing causes, or how much damage you're taking from some attack. You know this because you've played the best fighting game on the planet.


    So, what is surprising and perhaps disturbing, is that you would think that the free sparring mode in EA's MMA which does not allow you to set up scenarios on offense and defensive, which does not give you attack and defense metrics, which does not demonstrate the movelist, counts as a practice mode or dojo. Especially when you compare it VF or to UFC 2009/2010. You should know better. The UFC 2009/2010 offers a competition level complete practice mode. The free training mode in EA's MMA is just unguided open ended, undirected sparring with no useful feedback.


    I own EA's MMA I spent hard earned money on the game and the guide. My hope was that it would be as good as THQ UFC games or better. After about 50 hours of play now, I have have concluded that it is a solid game with great potential, but its only a subset of the UFC 2009/2010 games. I am correct. I can demonstrate that it is only a subset, and your name calling, profanity, and baseless claims don't change reality my friend.

    TheUgg you are at least partially right. I am a THQ fanboy, but I'm also a EA fanboy too so your premise is flawed. Which leads to the other false but telling conclusion you've drawn.
    I'm not on Thq's dick. I don't do dicks. But obviously you do since it was such a natural place for you to go to when trying to make your point.

    You couldn't even type 20 words before you fell back on profanity. How would your moms feel if she read this. Further,
    right in the middle of poorly making your point you started talking about dicks and laggy asses. I think that says it all. Your inability to focus on the matter at hand but instead digressing to mentions of being on dicks and laggy asses well, dude, that brings insight to what you're all about [​IMG] But that's okay, no discrimination here. TheUgg your probably a better man than your post lets on, but C'mon there's an African American in the Whitehouse, he should be motivating us all toward self respect and a sense of pride. TheUgg why don't you get some (self respect and a sense of pride)

    You're calling me the moron but you need to use the terms "fucking dicks and lagging ass" to make your point about practice mode [​IMG] Boy, you don't have the vocabulary to insult me.

    I suggest that you play EA's MMA again (the full version). Put in 30 or so hours. Re-read my post, and then write me an apology. Show some self respect this time. Bring facts and figures to support your argument and not profanity [​IMG] And whatever this fascination you have with being on dicks and laggy asses, you can keep that to yourself. That's your private life, too much information for forum on fighting games. [​IMG]

    After all, I have defied gods and demons, yet I live on...[/size]
     
  9. KiwE

    KiwE Well-Known Member

    I'd rather use profanities against my antagonist in an argument then end an intellectualized dribble with a fucking halo 3 quote. It's laughable that you accuse others of being immature or straying from the point without ever holding a mirror to your own ridiculous face or self-presentation.

    P.S: You're always condescending and your entire post was to ridicule and make a mockery of his. How's that for being the bigger man? You're the most childish person on this site regardless of your age you're just to stupid to realize it.
    Also; your post had more words in it then his and as such it was more well written and had more depth.
     
  10. masterpo

    masterpo VF Martial Artist Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    lastmonk

    @KiwE so what's wrong with Halo 3?
     
  11. Richkwondo

    Richkwondo Well-Known Member

    Hey Po, glad youre back, we thought you left for good after all that hazing , you took in the FPS vs fighters thread. I guess I shouldn't call it hazing , it's more like " hen pecking " from a bunch of forum queens.

    As consumers, we need the facts about a product, not empassion curse filled rants from rabid fanboys. 17 assignable moves for CAF versus 70 moves for CAF tells me all I need to know: EA MMA is not worth $65 . I wouldve considered getting it used, but the Online Pass business killed that deal. EA wont get a dime of my money if I can help it.
     
  12. TheUgg

    TheUgg Well-Known Member

    The thq games are just wrestling (WWE) games with a shiny coat of paint. no thanks. btw im a huge Fight Night Fan so maybe im biased.
     
  13. masterpo

    masterpo VF Martial Artist Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    lastmonk
    @Rickhwondo the rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated [​IMG]

    No man., VFDC is like family, lots of fussin and fightin but in the end they are my peeps. Even when we strongly disagree about something. But I usually only post when I have something that I truly think would benefit this community or a discussion that I think this community could really stretch out.

    IMO the UFC 2009/2010 game is a companion fighter to VF. IMO VF is the best arcade fighter in on the planet. IMO UFC 2009/2010 is the best combat sport fighter on the planet. In many cases if you like one of these you'll like the other. One gives you believable approaching realistic mixed martial arts. The other gives you a full blown mixed martial arts simulation.
    imo they truly complement each other.

    I thought it was appropriate to comment on the only real competition UFC 2009/2010 has which is EA's MMA btw its not a bad game. To the contrary, its a pretty good game, especially considering its EA first. But,., its a subset of UFC's 2009/2010. It doesn't offer all the modes, moves, or drama that THQ's offering does. The missing dojo is huge. But there are some things that it does better than UFC 2009/2010, the jiu jitsu game is better. Online(for now) seems to run smoother. It has user recordable highlights. The block & parry system is clever. The career mode is simpler. So I'm not suggesting that fans shouldn't buy it. I am suggesting that EA's MMA is in no way a replacement for UFC 2009/2010. If anything buy them both.

    But I hear you on online pass deal. That sux.
     
  14. masterpo

    masterpo VF Martial Artist Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    lastmonk

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