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Eileen Basics Video Series

Discussion in 'Eileen' started by Tricky, Sep 15, 2008.

  1. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    Hey so I got a new mac so I'm going to be making a lot more instructional videos which I'll be taking parts of actual real fights of other eileen players and show what they were doing and why it's a good idea. Here's my initial snap at it from today. If anyone wants anything specific please don't hesitate to ask as I'll just add it to the video. Also if you have a video showing what you're talking about post it up here and I'll download it (be it youtube or otherwise but youtube is easier) and work from there.

    Hope we get a nice community project here if others are interested. I'll do it myself though if nobody has the time to help out.

    I did this kinda fast so there are a few errors, but again I just really wanted to get some input from the rest of my fellow eileen players to be what they'd like to have covered.

    I feel like a video can reach a lot more people than a wall of text.
    <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vzfGX3hhCL0"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vzfGX3hhCL0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
     
  2. SoulKatana

    SoulKatana Well-Known Member

    good idea... ; )
    nice vid.

    greets
     
  3. Xzyx987X

    Xzyx987X Well-Known Member

    So then, the point is to input /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif as fast as possible, hit check the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif and if it lands counter hit go for the throw? I never really used that trick because the input is difficult to do with a pad.

    Also, in my opinion, Eleen's flips are not as useful as some of her other options. I mean, a lot of players just refuse to be intimidated by them and knock me out of the air with puches too often for them to be useful.

    Anyway though, I think your basic idea here is a good one. Especially when you are just beginning with a charactor, it's difficult to get a feel for how to excecute tricky stuff in an actual match without seeing it done first. May I suggest though, that you post the whole matches (or at the very least the rounds) that go with the moves so that people can see them in the correct context? More that just being able to excecute a move, in order to be able to land it consistantly in a real match you have to understand how to train an opponent into letting you get away with landing it, and in what situations trying to land it is or isn't a good idea.
     
  4. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    I wasn't sure if it would be annoying to have to wait the whole match for it or not. Guess you answered the question. I'll just show it as a single move then show the round it happened in. Though some of the rounds are pretty shotty besides the use of the technique I want to talk about. I'll use my best judgement on those.

    the zenk flip has it's uses but yes if you're getting hit out of it (which I do sometimes too) you're not using it right/being too predictable with it. It's best used from adv but a lot of the moves you cancel into it from leave you at disadvantage on hit so it can be tricky. They have to be decidedly afraid of your other options in general before your zenk flip will be really useful because actually smacking her out the air is no small feat. But there are times where you just can't make it happen because your opponent is just ready for it every Fing time.

    The PK input speed doesn't matter because you can't delay that kick, it happens or it doesn't. The important part is the G cancel of the kick because when you throw after that you get a zero frame if your opponent is just standing there blocking. But yeah there is going to be other stuff to hopeful put that example I showed in better context.
     
  5. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    zenk flip gets me pretty good. I would say that against noobs or mid dans i could see it being one of those moves that are ineffective, and then becoming much more effective vs high level competition who think as they play and don't always attack as a way out of disadvantage. I'm a lei fei player, but i really like your idea tricky. Awesome stuff. This would have been great during my formulative stages of lei fei. Fortunately i had wasted wish/SMB is me and vfnumbers to help me learn the ropes (as well as countless hours in evo that i had forgotten.).
     
  6. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    for some reason or another I can't edit my 1st post anymore but I've finished the project taking all your suggestions in mind.

    I moved it into the VF.TV thread since it's more for the entire community not just for us eileen players http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=224348#Post224348 is the link to it.

    feel free to ask for more things to be added and given the amount of intrest in the beta I will be pushed toward making a new vid for you guys.


    Yeah I didn't have something like this either. There were the superguide vids of Srider but I feel like this vid addresses a different kind of issue and shows you how to actually notice it in a real fight as that is the ultimate goal. I also had SweepTheLeg helpn' me learn the ropes of eileen back when I was still nubby to the extreme. Her thread is still quiet and I've kind of given up on trying to make it czy active. I've come to terms with her threads fate I just do work for her in hopes that those that want to learn her have an easier time at it than I did, because there wasn't much to refer to for me.
     
  7. Shidosha

    Shidosha Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    I_Am_Shidosha
    XBL:
    Ur Not Shidosha
    love the vid tricky,
    you shoulda put in clips when you kicked my ass!!!
    damn you
     
  8. Xzyx987X

    Xzyx987X Well-Known Member

    Are you an Eileen player Yip? I'll play you any time you want.
     
  9. Shidosha

    Shidosha Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    I_Am_Shidosha
    XBL:
    Ur Not Shidosha
    i play her off n on.
    ill pick her back up once i get used to pai on a stick (lol sounds like a snack)
    feel free to add tho
    you know the gamertag (i kinda wanna get my ass kicked in DOA too XD)
     
  10. Xzyx987X

    Xzyx987X Well-Known Member

    I do? The gamertag Yip exists, but it doesn't appear to have ever been used.
     
  11. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    his GT is "I am shidosha"
     
  12. Xzyx987X

    Xzyx987X Well-Known Member

    Yea, it wasn't uder his name before. :p But I got it from him in the shout box.
     
  13. smb

    smb Well-Known Member

    lol, is it my imagination, or are these training vids from R.....i'm confused
     
  14. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    Some of them are from VF5R. I didn't use things that have been changed though so it still applies. There were some nice VF5R stuff I did catch while cutting the vids and it looks pretty friggin cool. Like she has some new option out of 2_3P+K into something other than 236KKK. I have no idea what it is and it looks a lot like her current 66K except a lot faster.
     

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