Good/Bad Pai Match-Ups

Not that it matters much in this game, but who do you guys think are good and bad match-ups for Pai? Here's my personal opinion:

Good: Jacky, Eileen, Aoi, Lei-Fei

50/50: Lion, Sarah, Wolf, Jeffrey, Pai, Shun, Goh, El Blaze, Kage

Bad: Lau, Vanessa, Brad, Akira

 

How are you deciding the bad matchups?

I think how well you match up against certain characters depends more on your knowledge of the character you're fighting against and how well your opponent knows your character.

If you play in a specific way then some characters will probably be able to punish you a bit harder for what you're doing wrong. There's no "right" or "wrong way" to play a character. In my opinion anyway so matchups would be vague at best.

 

I'm basing all the match-ups on how well I've done against the characters when facing the computer and people online. I know it's not the best way to go about determining match-ups, but I really just did it that way to garner some discussion. I think the fact that match-ups are so vague adds to the amount of discussion possible for this topic.

 

These matchups are based on how well you play them specifically it may be abit different for someone else as far as what is good and bad for them. That is the beauty of VF match ups aren't decided based on the specific match up but completely on the player.

 

I think all pai's matchups ae good ones for pai.

She has speed and damage, crazy charge moves and low ful circular sweps, the ever handy 1KK, the P sabaki, man, shes got so many good moves its unbelievable.

In fact, i dont know why pai hasnt ben abused online as much as shun and lei, she certainly has he potential to be equally annoying.

 

I use Pai occasionally and she can handle most other characters pretty well, I can see the problem against Vanessa though if you spam lows lots like I do, usually 1KK or 3P then expect to get punished by moves like Vanessa's 1K+G which crushes lows and juggles into 6PKK, but that aside match ups only really matter in unbalanced games like SSF4, VF5 is probably the most balanced fighting game out there

 

the match ups are even for me across the board for everyone except for when I handle the better players. There are a few characters that give me fits abit but it isn't anything I haven't experienced before. The game is so balanced that the specifics don't make that much of a difference either way, that is why I love VF so much better than SF and other fighters.

No smart VF players should ever spam Pai's 1KK or 3P without thinking about it first and expect to win alot against anyone not just Vanessa.

 

Of course it does I thought you knew this already as a Vanessa player.

 

Fighting against heavy characters is hard. FOr me. Also against El Blaze.

 

fighting against other people is hard. also against big people.

 

Stupid troll.


124, maybe provide examples of why the Heavyweight characters and El Blaze give you problems. That way we can provide feedback to help you overcome these problems with Pai. This information could help others who have the same problems you do.

 

versus the big guys: is it floats? are you getting floated? I'll bet it is floats. Pai is pretty floaty.

 

I think Marlyjay is referring to the fact that the float is stance and distance dependent.

That said, if the Pai player decides to abare with instead of a low attack Vanessa is considered airborne so i think is hardly recommend in this matchup (or against any 10f jabber for that matter).

 

Watch out for characters with crouch throws. They include Jeff and Wolf. I think part of the reason you may be suffering from this match up is possibly because they are throwing you from the recovery of your sweeps.

In order for you to escape these throws you need to guess which low throw direction they are going to use. 3 or down forward is usually the most common.* I`d advise you keep a direction of your choice held and spam p+k+g for throws being done to you from sweeps.

*If you are not sure of your opponents low throw direction. Save the replay and watch it back with the input display on to see which escape you should be making.

But watch out though. Good VF`ers won`t use the same direction constantly. They will do this just to throw you off of your guessing games. They may even beat out a quick mid attack instead of throwing altogether.

 

Yah! That's the reason! Pai is very light compared to them.. and their massive grabs too.

ah! thnks for the advice ultralewis

 

You don't need to guess low throw escapes. You can escape them all. You need to guess on ground throws though.

 

Really?? Interesting...