Hello everybody, I need some generals advices

Hi all,

I'm françois, I play VF5 since... only few months on my new 360, and of course, VF5 is one of my favorits games. But, I'm a real noob in domain of combat game, so, it's not a piece of cake when I try to improve my skill, without to talk I play with pads and essentially against cpu.

I have read many article of this site, and I have studied some frame sheet (for lion and lau, the caracters I play the best until now).

But, sometimes I play with a friend more familiar with combats game (but not with VF series at all), and each time he takes Brad, he gives my a serious (and humiliating) correction xD .
When I play lion, I have more facility to counter his game, but with any other caracters, the sentence is the same : 3-0 for him. And with lion, it's always 3-2 for him...
I have see that he play often the same string ( /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, etc) and basic /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif , and just after have buff the strike, he guard each time. And he stand to close range permanently.

So, I think a part of this problem result of a bad knowlege of the frame data (advantage and disavantage) from I, but, there is certainly others raisons. And it's a this time I need yours generals advices ^^ .
What are the things I make wrong from yours minds ? What tutorial I must read and work ?

Thank for your help ^^


ps : my appologies for my bad english /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

 

Hey Francois,

The first step is to experiment. Generally speaking, one of the worst things you can do in VF5 is complete strings. Most characters, at the end of their strings, have large amounts of disadvantage, and if you have blocked successfully, you can capitalize on this and get free damage.

Just taking the two Brad strings that you've mentioned:

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif - This entire string can be blocked high. After Brad does his double knee, he is at -16 if you have successfully guarded it. This is a HUGE amount of advantage on your part, and you are guaranteed a throw after this. This is the first thing I would learn to punish.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif - This string is tough to see coming, and in my experience, most people just take the hit. Even if you DO get hit by this, Brad is at 6 frames of disadvantage after successfully hitting you with this. You can now counterattack safely. Start off by just trying to jab or ducking jab your opponent. If he always blocks after he hits with this string, switch instead to throwing him. He'll be forced to change up his gameplay fairly quickly afterwards, or else continue to get thrown and to lose rounds.

If you feel that you are getting overwhelmed, you can always resort to a /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif to break him out of his strings - just don't rely on this move, and make sure you use it sparingly.

The best way to overcome this hurdle, which is your first of many, is to just practice guarding, and watch when your opponent guards. Over time, you will notice that there are places where he always guards after certain strings, and these are the places where you want to throw him. In other situations, you will notice that he seems to be at a disadvantage, but still attacks. These are the places where you want to immediately counter-attack with your own jab right after successfully blocking.

Above all, have patience. Brad can be an overwhelming character to deal with, but once you start to recognize his strings (especially bad ones like /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif), it gets easier to punish him.

 

Thank for your answerd, I will work in the way you sugest me /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif .