While doing research on the various movelists, I have encountered some move oddities. In particular, I am curious about two similar backturned attacks: Lau and Pai's backturned uf+K. In both cases, I have found the backturned move to be unusually difficult to execute. They seem to have a very narrow window of execution --seemingly requiring one frame of tapping ub and K simultaneously. The PS2 training mode claims these moves need to be buffered, but buffering doesn't work -- in fact, in Pai's case, buffering while doing b+P+K+G (to get her to turn) causes a sweep to come out. Is there some special trick with these moves (as there is with Kage's backturned ub+K)? I realize this isn't a major concern for the more experienced players; I am just curious, and doing a Search was of no help. Thanks.