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Now, Lei Fei is my man and all, but...

Discussion in 'Lei' started by BlackDragon37, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    I have an assignment to review a game. I'm reviewing VF5. Not to give it a score, but to analyse its strong points, weakpoints etc.

    Part of the assignment is to compare to other games of similar genre. In which case, I'm ATM comparing VF5 to VF4:E (I had to bring up the training mode).

    Out of curiosity, I checked on Lei Fei's VF4:E frame data, and came across 66K+G.

    Which is mid, fully tracks, and is safe on block (-3 IIRC).

    So I checked on his VF5 Ver. C counterpart.

    Which is also mid, fully tracks, and is -3 on block.

    Am I the only guy who hates fully tracking mids that are safe? I mean, he's not the only guy that has a safe fully tracking mid.

    I hate it. Hate it, hate it, hate it. I feel guilty for spamming it all the time, now. Online and off. Always wondering by it doesn't get thrown well at times.

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  2. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    There is a catch in that move... Even if he is -3, he is actually backturned and in stance where he cant block..
     
  3. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but he has other options.

    Really, he shouldn't be able to do anything, TBH.
     
  4. comoesa2

    comoesa2 Well-Known Member

    LOL at lei and shun players.



    really these characters have to many options from all their little stances.
     
  5. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    BT lei fei is magic
     
  6. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    Lei and Shun is Bullshit but you can beat them by being cautious and have good defense.


    In real life Shaolin Monks are nasty period.
    And after washing Drunken master 2. Shun still has even more moves Sega could give him *Sigh*
     
  7. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    Jack's kick is unsabakiable and I believe to be (if not) one of the fastest full-circular mid kicks in the game. When I went into BT w/ Lei, I knew his next attack would be the kick, but I turned around and still ate it on CH somehow /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
     
  8. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    Actually, if you hesitate even one frame after blocking /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, Jackys /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif will lose to koko /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif which is a 14 frame mid. You have to buffer Jackys spin kick in that situation. If Leis kick that entered koko actually hit, then Jacky will lose.

    And of course not all characters have as good options, and Lei has more options too. If for example Jacky blocks Leis /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (just -1) and tries the mid spin kick, Jacky will lose to Koko K.
     
  9. branjamson0923

    branjamson0923 New Member

    when he is forced to throw his few throws are not very powerful compared to all the other chars. even though he has many good staggering moves you really dont have time to input b4 u are tossed like a salad. lei doesnt have great d-fence and his fighting style is supposed 2 b based around d-fence. i really attack then back out and visa versa to win but that doesnt work all the time. if you got xbox live send me a freind request my tag is IMHEREloveme. -peace
     
  10. Combolammas

    Combolammas Sheep

    Having 2 powerful throw directions and 2 weaker throw directions is enough. Stance cancel throw is a staple part of many of Leis basic mix-ups.

    As for staggers Doku d+K and Ura Nehan K (and Ura Nehan f+K) are serious business if the opponent doesn't struggle well enough. Confirming f+P stagger into the follow-up is also a nice way to knockdown.

    Why do you say Lei doesn't have good defense? He's got a shitload of powerful and effective sabakis and evasive movements and attacks.
    Also, why would you say he's supposed to be defensive? He's a powerhouse when it comes to forcing mix-ups and that makes him pretty offensive already.

    Hit and run tactics can be good for anyone in right situations but usually if you actually manage to hit them you should press the advantage.
     
  11. smb

    smb Well-Known Member

    lol, b4 you can blow up the lei fei dojo (with info, questions on the other hand are permitted) you must play against:
    Wasted Wish, send me an invite.
    Cozby
    Linzuhoun
    VfNumbers
    Social Ruin.

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

    Its the law.
     
  12. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    You forgot me.

    But by VF5 disc won't let me get online (it's scratched), so I'll have to wait for my Skipdoctor to be delivered.
     
  13. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    Blackdragon is the mostest officalist underground Lei-Fei. I can't wait until we can lei vs. lei.

    And Cidkid - no matter how much I trash talk about him, he has an excessive amount of raw talent put to good use.
     
  14. smb

    smb Well-Known Member

    i didn't include blackdragon b/c i have never played him, lol, i almost put him in the same catagory as branj, but he's been posting for so long, i grandfathered him in.

    Can't put cidkid on that list, b/c then he'd never get to post, cidkid doesn't frequent the site it would seem and i've never seen him online.

    Srsly Black, quit hiding on the underground, we need to get some games in, or at least play social ruin, coz, numbers, linz, someone so they can tell me what you are all about. Been curious for awhile.
     
  15. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    Like I said, I'll have to wait a little while before I can get online on VF5 again... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
  16. BlackDragon37

    BlackDragon37 Well-Known Member

    Right, I got my VF5 fixed (using the Skipdoctor - well recommended). Hit me up for some Lei Fei matches! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
     
  17. Menace

    Menace Member

    I kinda feel like an asshole nomiating myself for qualifying to be considered among the notable lei fei players but this i must do. a lot of regulars have played me and im always up for a fight. as for lei fei's defense, I try not to be on defense a whole lot with him. i mean basics like ETEG apply to anyone but my defensive moves sabakis, bokutai, hai shiki /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gifor /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif etc.. usually work best while im on offense. at least thats what ive noticed. hit me up for lei matches anytime take care vfdc
     
  18. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    well menace. rescind ur self nomination, cause u get mine. I haven't played u much, but when i did u were stronger even if it was a while ago.
     
  19. Feck

    Feck Well-Known Member Content Manager Akira

    How did this thread turn into master of the Lei Fei scrubs thread?!

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  20. smb

    smb Well-Known Member

    DAMNIT, who left the doggy door open? How did HE get in here. Now we are going to have to get the thread fumigated.
     

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