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Please help me with this crazy combo?!?

Discussion in 'Akira' started by jackmac, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. jackmac

    jackmac Member

    Hey guys,
    Have been practicing with akira for the past few days and
    having troubles with this combo.
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif --> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif --> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

    I watched couple of replays and have seen a lot of japanese players
    using this combo. I have literally tried for 100 X , just can't
    get it. Hope you guys can shed some light. Thx in advance.
    MAC
     
  2. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

    PSN:
    Sebopants
    Maybe try inputing it as /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif? It works for me (and will again if I ever try playing him again).
     
  3. Tha_FeauchA

    Tha_FeauchA Yosha!

    PSN:
    Medina_Rico
    Yea you have to be pretty swift to nail that one. Question, is your double palm coming out and just missing? Or is it not coming out at all? If it's missin you just have to buffer the double palm quicker. If it's not coming out at all practice just buffering the DP over and over again. Also try /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif from 2nd player side to do it. Might be easier for you or maybe not, but it's worth a shot. Also there is already another topic of this question that has many replies to it that may help you out. Here is the link

    http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/199987#Post199987
     
  4. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

    PSN:
    Myke623
    XBL:
    Myke623
    jackmac, what part of the combo do you fail at? Are you entering /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif correctly, and not as /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif? Do you understand the purpose of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif (or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif) in combos? They allow you to execute commands that ordinarily are done from a crouch position, like /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif instantly from a standing position.

    Basically, you need to start entering this command as soon as your punch hits. If you do it right, you should not see Akira attempting a crouch dash at all.

    You can optionally enter the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif as:

    1. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

    2. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif - more effecient that 1. since you don't need to cut back across neutral.

    3. QCB x 2, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif - you might find this super combo method easier if you're from a 2D fighter background

    BTW, this combo is not considered "crazy" at all and with enough practice this really should be a staple!
     
  5. jackmac

    jackmac Member

    Hey Myke,
    Sorry for my ignorance, still new to the VF5 scene....
    does /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif mean press/hold the joystick foward and then p, as opposed to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif?

    And yeah, my problem is the last double palm, I cannot execute fast enough. I have always thought that you have to crouch dash /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif to execute the last double palm....thx for correcting me there.
    Thanks for the help guys....I am getting there /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
    mac
     
  6. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

    PSN:
    Myke623
    XBL:
    Myke623
    Correct.

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif = hold forward and then press punch
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif = tap forward and press punch at the same time

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And yeah, my problem is the last double palm, I cannot execute fast enough. I have always thought that you have to crouch dash /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif to execute the last double palm....thx for correcting me there.
    Thanks for the help guys....I am getting there /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
    mac </div></div>
    Well, your thinking is correct -- you must crouch dash in order to execute the command. But, you can "buffer" the crouch dash such that you don't visibly see it animate. If you do, you're not buffering it fast enough!

    If you're not familiar with buffering then I suggest you read up on it in the VF5 System Wiki: Input Buffering (and more specifically, Recovery Buffering)
     
  7. Fulan

    Fulan Well-Known Member

    Thanks Myke! I was having trouble buffering crouchdashes using 11 or 33 but this is much easier for me. I just tried it out, works great!
     
  8. jackmac

    jackmac Member

    Hey guys,
    just practiced today with this combo again....I would say
    I would probably get it 2 every 10 times. Big improvement no doubt, thx for all the tips. However, I still can't realize how ppl do it so smoothly in the game, every time. I will keep practicing.
    Cheers,
    jackmac
     
  9. Nagasumi

    Nagasumi Well-Known Member

    I do the double palm by buffering in a /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif then do /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif.

    I can land the standing punch into double palm about 3/4th's the time, but the crouching punch to double palm all the time.

    The difference in points to me doesn't justify screwups and I've lost matches cause I went for the extra 3-4 points the standing punch combo gives but whiffed and then I lost the match.

    I'd say mastering it will give you a 3-4 point damage advantage over me but that's a risk I'm not willing to take with my luck.
     
  10. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

    PSN:
    manjimaruFI
    XBL:
    freedfrmtheReal
    Yep, unless its second nature it may not be worth doing. Slightly similar, in open stance you can also do
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif - (small dash) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif~/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
    Which is maxdamagecombo up to jacky in open stance. (Akira can avoid it with exact recovery). You can maybe pull it off without dash, but you need slight delay before the lowpunch.
     
  11. Nagasumi

    Nagasumi Well-Known Member

    The single-palm -> elbow combo is definitely worth going for if you really want that extra points.

    What I like is that if you screw up, you're much more likely to get damage in cause you'd be whiffing just the elbow part. Whiffing Double palm usually leads to tech-roll punishment. Elbow follow up is very safe I think.

    That and it looks AWESOME
     
  12. danny13

    danny13 Well-Known Member

    Not just akira...
     
  13. ultralewis

    ultralewis Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    InfamousGeezer
    XBL:
    Infamous Geezer
    i know the combo you are mentioning, i never do it the way you are trying to do it though. what i do is /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif then /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif then buffer in the double palm by doing /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif after the crouch punch
     
  14. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

    PSN:
    manjimaruFI
    XBL:
    freedfrmtheReal
    We werent talking about doublepalm.

    Danny: yeah, I know now that theres several characters on which the combo doesnt work.
     
  15. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    T1L ALL AR3 0N3
    i randomly discovered this in vf4, and i find it to be the most consistent way for me to buffer double palm or any other move similar such as wolf's reverse hammer. after the discovery, i played vf3 and vf2 to see if the buffer would be the same, and VOILA! work's like a charm! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
  16. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    dude this is a god send for me because I have the 2d roots you're speaking of.
     
  17. smb

    smb Well-Known Member

    3. QCB x 2, - you might find this super combo method easier if you're from a 2D fighter background

    QCB x 2, i have know idea what you guys are talking about. someone please enlighten me. thanks
     
  18. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    plague-cwa
    XBL:
    HowBoutSmPLAGUE
    Quarter Circle Back - the first direction is down. Some QCB x 2 = 214214
     

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