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Room 101: democracy at work

Discussion in 'General' started by GodEater, Aug 25, 2004.

  1. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    I alluded to this in a previous post but here's the follow-up. Have fun.

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    A Chill in Florida
    By Bob Herbert
    New York Times

    Monday 23 August 2004

    The state police investigation into get-out-the-vote activities by blacks in Orlando, Fla., fits perfectly with the political aims of Gov. Jeb Bush and the Republican Party.

    The Republicans were stung in the 2000 presidential election when Al Gore became the first Democrat since 1948 to carry Orange County, of which Orlando is the hub. He could not have carried the county without the strong support of black voters, many of whom cast absentee ballots.

    The G.O.P. was stung again in 2003 when Buddy Dyer, a Democrat, was elected mayor of Orlando. He won a special election to succeed Glenda Hood, a three-term Republican who was appointed Florida secretary of state by Governor Bush. Mr. Dyer was re-elected last March. As with Mr. Gore, the black vote was an important factor.

    These two election reverses have upset Republicans in Orange County and statewide. Moreover, the anxiety over Democratic gains in Orange County is entwined with the very real fear among party stalwarts that Florida might go for John Kerry in this year's presidential election.

    It is in this context that two of the ugliest developments of the current campaign season should be viewed.

    "A Democrat can't win a statewide election in Florida without a high voter turnout - both at the polls and with absentee ballots - of African-Americans," said a man who is close to the Republican establishment in Florida but asked not to be identified. "It's no secret that the name of the game for Republicans is to restrain that turnout as much as possible. Black votes are Democratic votes, and there are a lot of them in Florida."

    The two ugly developments - both focused on race - were the heavy-handed investigation by Florida state troopers of black get-out-the-vote efforts in Orlando, and the state's blatant attempt to purge blacks from voter rolls through the use of a flawed list of supposed felons that contained the names of thousands of African-Americans and, conveniently, very few Hispanics.

    Florida is one of only a handful of states that bar convicted felons from voting, unless they successfully petition to have their voting rights restored. The state's "felon purge" list had to be abandoned by Glenda Hood, the secretary of state (and, yes, former mayor of Orlando), after it became known that the flawed list would target blacks but not Hispanics, who are more likely in Florida to vote Republican. The list also contained the names of thousands of people, most of them black, who should not have been on the list at all.

    Ms. Hood, handpicked by Governor Bush to succeed the notorious Katherine Harris as secretary of state, was forced to admit that the felons list was a mess. She said the problems were unintentional. What clearly was intentional was the desire of Ms. Hood and Governor Bush to keep the list secret. It was disclosed only as a result of lawsuits filed under Florida's admirable sunshine law.

    Meanwhile, the sending of state troopers into the homes of elderly black voters in Orlando was said by officials to be a response to allegations of voter fraud in last March's mayoral election. But the investigation went forward despite findings in the spring that appeared to show that the allegations were unfounded.

    Why go forward anyway? Well, consider that the prolonged investigation dovetails exquisitely with that crucial but unspoken mission of the G.O.P. in Florida: to keep black voter turnout as low as possible. The interrogation of elderly black men and women in their homes has already frightened many voters and intimidated elderly get-out-the-vote volunteers.

    The use of state troopers to zero in on voter turnout efforts is highly unusual, if not unprecedented, in Florida. But the head of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, Guy Tunnell, who was also handpicked by Governor Bush, has been unfazed by the mounting criticism of this use of the state police. His spokesmen have said a "person of interest" in the investigation is Ezzie Thomas, a 73-year-old black man who just happens to have done very well in turning out the African-American vote.

    From the G.O.P. perspective, it doesn't really matter whether anyone is arrested in the Orlando investigation, or even if a crime was committed. The idea, in Orange County and elsewhere, is to send a chill through the democratic process, suppressing opposing votes by whatever means are available.
     
  2. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    I always read the Times Op_Ed pieces (Except for Brooks and Safire). Herbert and Krugman have been writing about the ongoing Florida debacle pretty regularly. The paperless voting machines manfactured by GOP loyalists should scare the shit out of everyone. Now they're going out, using the cops to scare black voters and keep them from voting.

    It's criminal, but it's how they operate. They don't give a shit about democracy. They don't give a shit about you or me or America or the world. Human beings are means to an end for these people, that end being their enrichment and the extension of their power. They are swine.
     
  3. IamthePope

    IamthePope Well-Known Member

    Wasn't Krugman that looney guy O'Reilly was talking to. Don't know why you read that stuff Ramrod. watch O'Reilly instead.
     
  4. Painty_J

    Painty_J Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    IamthePope said:

    Wasn't Krugman that looney guy O'Reilly was talking to. Don't know why you read that stuff Ramrod. watch O'Reilly instead.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Actually, Krugman was the guy that Looney O'Reilly was routinely shouting down whenever he said anything.
     
  5. DissMaster

    DissMaster Well-Known Member

    Goddamn it, I thought we went over this already. Paul Krugman is a very smart fellow. You could even call him an intellectual. Don't take my word for it. Here, again, I've cut and pasted part of his Times bio:

    Mr. Krugman received his B.A. from Yale University in 1974 and his Ph.D. from MIT in 1977. He has taught at Yale, MIT and Stanford. At MIT he became the Ford International Professor of Economics.

    Mr. Krugman is the author or editor of 20 books and more than 200 papers in professional journals and edited volumes. His professional reputation rests largely on work in international trade and finance; he is one of the founders of the "new trade theory," a major rethinking of the theory of international trade. In recognition of that work, in 1991 the American Economic Association awarded him its John Bates Clark medal, a prize given every two years to "that economist under forty who is adjudged to have made a significant contribution to economic knowledge." Mr. Krugman's current academic research is focused on economic and currency crises.

    Please do not acuse me of wanting to felate Mr. Krugman, for this is not the case. I would just like to draw a contrast between him and O'Liely.

    The world is a complicated place. When trying to make sense of it all, it is best to listen to and read the work of intellectuals, not Archie Bunker-like blowhards on the FOX News Channel.
     
  6. IamthePope

    IamthePope Well-Known Member

    Your as looney as him. Big dummy.
     
  7. Painty_J

    Painty_J Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    IamthePope said:

    Your as looney as him. Big dummy.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Wow...If I didnt' know any better, I woulda swore that was a quote from O'Reilly.
     

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