Sober throws

Went over the command lists to see how many sobering throws each character has. Skipping the low, side, back and wall throws...

Characters with 2 throw directions that sober:

• Akira must use a sobering combo, 1DP
• Aoi 1DP, 1DP or use an even more sobering combo near walls
• Brad 1DP, 1DP
• Eileen 1DP, 1DP or use an even more sobering combo near walls
• El Blaze 1DP, 1DP
• Goh 1DP, 2DP
• Jean 1DP, 1DP
• Kage 2DP, 1DP or use an even more sobering TFT combo (bonus, his hit-throw is semicircular and sobers 1DP)
• Lau 1DP (since f+p,p sobers), 1DP
• Lion 1DP, must use a sobering combo
• Pai 1DP, 2DP (is there an even more sobering combo near walls?)
• Sarah 1DP, 1DP
• Taka 2DP, must use a sobering combo
• Wolf 2DP, 3DP, catch throw 1DP

Characters with 1 throw direction that sobers:

• Jacky 1DP
• Jeffry 1DP
• Lei 1DP
• Shun 2DP or use an even more sobering combo near walls

Special Case:

• Vanessa DS 1DP/OS 1DP

So i guess Jacky, Jeffry, Lei and Shun are somewhat at a disadvantage. Vanessa too, but only if the Shun player is paying attention to her style switching.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, didn't notice the no wall throws. 3P!P+G hit throw still sobers 1, though.

 

Just out of curiosity I looked at some of the side-, back- and low-throws.

I didn't check everyone but it looks like no sidethrow sobers at all even if it looks like it would (like Vanessa & Jean).
Backthrows also mostly seem to be non-sobering but there were a couple of exceptions in the chars I checked (Lion backthrow -1 DP, Shun -2 DP, Jeff -3 DP). Weird that stuff like Jean's neckbreaker doesn't sober at all.

Lowthrows are kind of weird in this department too. Aoi doesn't sober with any low throw even if it includes stomping Shun's head to the ground...
- Aoi & Wolf: no sobering low throws

- Pai, Jeff & Taka: 1 sobering direction (with Taka it's from the follow-up combo to 1P+G)

- Vanessa & Blaze: 2 Sobering directions (with Blaze 2P+G into sobercombo, 33P+G sobers 1DP and as bonus 3P+G leads to damage + guaranteed stand throw attempt which again can sober.)

- Goh: 3 sobering directions: 1&3 both sober 1 point and succesfull tsukami continuations sobers 2 points. 2P+G itself doesn't sober though so they can still get away from it.

 

Kage can sober up to 4pts with his TFT.

 

Thanks for the heads up, i updated the OP to reflect this

 

Does anybody have a list of post-KO sobering combos? I can list some:

Goh: KO move > > > -5 DP

Sarah: KO move > > > -4 DP (sorta finnicky, i believe it only works closed stance.)

Lion: KO Move > > > -6 DP

 

I'm pretty sure you could take 5 with Blaze.
2_6P+K, 2P+K, dash 4P, 3K+G, 3K+G.

Tried it sometime ago, last hit should just make it if you don't waste time with 2_6P+K.

 

sorry for reviewing dead thread, but wolf can sobber 3 with perfect GS (6 direction)

 

Fixed - sorry for missing that, i admit i did not read the notes for every character's throw

 

Do folks know of general moves that do not knock shun down after KO? Ways to end the round so you can combo him after KO.

 

BTW to sobbering throws. May be worth to note that Wolfs 3P+G ground throw MAY sobber shun for 2 (face down, head forward)

Also Gohs 3P+G and 1P+G low throws dobbers for 1. And 2P+G sobbers for 2 if you do not guess correctly in Tsukami.

 

@Unicorn: Combolammas had already covered sobering low throws. You're the first one to mention ground throws though, nice catch!

 

I am not sure if anyone except wolf can sobber with ground throw..?