To MMA fans (Pride / Ufc / The likes):

Samuelsson is going to Pride - you heard it here first.

If you don't know who Magnus Samuelsson is he's won the Worlds Strongest Man contest and so on - 157kg pure muscle (unlike Sapps anabolic shit). The Swedes are coming!

 

MoFos look like they play ruby just to warn up for a real fight. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

Royce in the middle has that 'tarded glare to him. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

lol dam.. although, that guy on the very of the picture doesn't look like all muscle at all /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

Tru.

True but he is pure raw strenght. He isn't very well defined on that picture though I guess (still think he'll mess up alot of people BAD) but blimey, he's strong.



Some quick facts about Magnus:

He's 2m tall and weighs in at 157kgs. He has a personal best of 270kg's in benchpress and was one of the first in the world to be able to close a Captains Of Crusch No3 which is a "gripper" with a resistance of 130kg (so he has a strong grip). I hope they train him in Greco-Roman wrestling and GnP.

Has won the Worlds Strongest man (he has a brother who's top tier aswell) and has been the strongest man in Sweden 6 times now. He's friends with Royce Gracie amongst others.
The reason I care isn't cause of his strenght as much but more cause he's so hella nice / friendly and that we finally might get a Swede in pride to cheer for. They're still negotiating but I would hope he could be in the december show (but doubt it). He'll probably be in pride the show after the Shockwave 2003 though. They are trying to negoiate him against Bob Sapp which would be ideal.


... Now I better stop before I sound of as to much of a fanboy /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

Re: Tru.

damn... he can bench 600 pounds /versus/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

haha he can beat on Jeffrey's ass so bad /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

Re: Tru.

when will he fight in pride? Most muscle bound idiots with no fight experince tend to get the crap knocked out of them.

 

oh yeah, where did you hear this? Sherdog?

 

My money is on Magnus if he ever fights Bob Sapp! Damn his raw strength makes me crap my pants.

 

Sorry; forgot the source (which you always should ask for):

A forum posting on fightermag (nordic martial arts magazine) by Lars Wallin who happens to be one of the editors of the magazine and a close friend of Magnus (and Royce). Basicly as soon as the negotiations about Magnus is done he's going to LA to train hard for his fight (Wallin would like 6months, all depends on when) in the States.

I believe he will do quite well if not exellent in Pride. You cannot compare someone bloated like Sapp (who can't even physically be trained to kick and is handicapped due to his own body structure) with someone like Samuelsson who could be thought everything and has real strenght and even stamina.

 

Well, he better come prepared. With conditioned legs and GnP & Submission Defense. I'd hate to see a nice dude (from what I can tell by seeing him on TV) get hammered.

In general though, I am find the increasing influx of non-mma athletes into mma quite funny. For example, no badminton pro would suddenly try competing on the ATP Tour just because both sports are plaued with rackets and there is more money in tennis. However, you get boxers, sumo people (I am gonna laugh my ass of at Akebono), World's Strongest Men thinking they can just walk into mma. But then again, it usually makes for amusing television.

Good Luck to Magnus, he'll need it.

 

I do however see more relevance between one man beating another man down in a 1 on 1 fight and strenght then in your example of badminton - specially when there is no super HW weight class in pride / ufc and so on. I highly doubt Coleman, Frye, legends like Severn or even new fighters like Waterman or Ambriz could have made it if it wasn't for the strenght they were packing. And remember - we're not talking about a strong man we're talking about the strongest man (that means alot) and he's no absolute stranger to jj. I guess his weakpoint would be his legs though yeah so I hope he just clinches and uses his grip strenght to either fuck the other up asap or just take the other down wrestling style (which would be easy for someone who could lift and turn Sapp midair - just teach him double underhooks and let them fly).

P.S: Yeah Akebono is going to get fucked up beyond belief in k1 (which isn't MMA btw), no doubt after seing how his faced got messed up after sparring with Botha (and the fact that he couldn't control his temper).
The money in both boxing and k1(go go Martin Holm!) is better then in MMA right now and Magnus motivation is something else and more natural - if you were the strongest man wouldn't you think about how it would be like using that power against someone else in your lifetime / seing just how far you could go (specially if he's a MMA fan)?

 

To a certain extent I agree with what you said about Colman et. al. and the strength factor. You must, however, not forget that, particularly Coleman, was/is also a top class wrestler and that COMBINED with his strength made him dangerous. Another factor (with regards to Severn and Coleman success in the earlier UFCs) was the fact that back then they were allowed to headbutt (I know that does not apply to Coleman's win at the GP). In any case the guys you mentioned brought some serious skills in their discipline into the mma ring/cage apart from brute strength (even though they were not as strong as the world's strongest man).

Nonetheless, I do not dispute that the world's strongest man, in a well-conditioned state, good stamina and taught some underhooks, a couple of slams and GnP would be a force to be reckoned with.
I just hope that if he really ends up fighting mma he has somebody to put the hurt on him during preparation and make sure that there is no "I'm the world's strongest man, nobody can touch me" stuff going on (but he doesn't strike me as that kind of person anyway). I have nothing bad to say about him and wish him good luck.

Btw, I am aware that K-1 is not mma per se.

N.

 

I know you know that K1 isn't MMA (I have great respect for your knowledge in MMA) - was just being an ass, sorry 'bout that.

True about the headbutt factor but do not forget that elbows were allowed aswell (which, if put back today togheter with headbutts would kill of many who prefer to fight with someone in their gaurd) which was a great asset for a GnP'er (not that any of the fighters mentioned relied on it) as you only need 5cm or so of pullback to make damage.

However... I wouldn't say Coleman and so on got thought the GnP game by wrestling, takedowns and ground control to a certain extent yeah (and even then I credit his strenght to it a whole deal), but I highly doubt taking someone down will be Magnus problem if he faces one. Waterman was a bad example really but you can't credit, say, Armbiz to anything else but strenght though (or Sapp).

He will be trained, as mentioned earlier, by amongst others Lars Wallin in Los Angeles who is national jj champion in the States and Royce Gracie. I cannot stress enough how important it is that he, unlike other "strong" men (who are bloated anabolic users for most of the time) is not handicapped by his own physique and does not easily gass out so yeah, I truelly see this going well for him - I don't think Royce Gracie would stick his neck out and recommend him to the people of pride if he didn't see potential in him or even was impressed with him from when they sparred.

Over and Out.

 

While Magnus has the natural size, physique, and strength (obviously) to be a ground and pound fighter; imagine someone with his strength that had the submission skills of Antonio Nogueira or Sakuraba. I've yet to see a brute fighter that was well versed in submissions. Kerr, Coleman, Randelman, etc., etc. can all control an opp., but didn't know how to finish the fight when they were in an advantageous situation on th ground. Meanwhile, the guys that do have extraordinary submission skills (like the above mentioned), are plagued with injuries, or just not strong enough to control certain opponents. And, thus cannot stop opponents like Silva or Fedor.

I guess where I'm going with this is, although Magnus should be schooled in all aspects of MMA and cross train; he would be a nightmare if he had the skills to apply chokes, armbars, and heel hooks; since he can overpower any opponent he faces. This may be the direction his trainers take him; especially if he's training with Royce.

 

Rixon is kinda "big" and muscular. Ron Waterman aswell.... No I don't think it's to smart training him in subs to much as compared to GnP as subs is alot of technique / speed in execution and setups for them. Sure, he could probably power himself to a few but then again I'd like him just to grab the wrist of someone and squezze it until they tap aswell /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif
He sometimes sit and take cans of beer in his hand, just along one hand between his thumb and finger and then totally destroys them - that's what kinda of grip we're talking about. If he were to grab someones wrist he could probably power himself into a kimura or something pretty easily.
But he needs to, ofc, get to be very wellversed. I'm looking forward to his debut nonetheless with great anticipation.