Uses for 61P+G?

nice info..thks

btw
any major uses for /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif throw? ..the catch throw

 

Not that I've perfected. I see it used in vids against tech rolls somewhat frequently...

 

I kind of like p, catch throw. Lots of people stand and guard after p. Don't quite know why...

I actually like the ppp follow-up to the catch throw. You'd be surprised at how many people try and duck after being hit by the third p and eat an elbow follow-up. Who knows, maybe they're d+p'ing and then getting interrupted. I can't say for sure. All I know is elbow afterwards works fairly well, and once they start blocking that, well, it's catch throw repeat time /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Best,

-Jason

 

I've decided /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif(Stance) is a nasty flow.

If the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif hits as counter (MC) It helps to delay the last punch for a moment to bait for the counter.

1.) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (catch throw) is a combo for 61 damage, pretty sick...

2.) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif Combos for 69 damage but no knockdown...

 

Instead of #2
I'd go for /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif(MC)->/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif->/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif->/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif
And mix up from there as usual.

Don't know how much damage that is, but at least it leaves you in (virtual) advantage due to the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif follow-up.

 

Can you get a side crumple stun by doing the catch throw, then press u / d, followed by 3 + K? I dont have access to the game atm so I cant test this.

 

Not automatically, you're only plus 5 frames. I saw Chibita do a /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif punch reversal /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif (dodge) > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif side cumple into combo. But he was able to side crumple cause his opponent kept attacking so he got a counter hit. That takes pretty good stick control and good timing to pull off though.

 

I'm pretty sure you can do 3K to get a side crumple if opponent attacks, since he is side turned it takes 3 more frames for him to attack, so your real advantage is +8 (which means only 10f Ps could stop 3K). That's how you've got to think with all the advantage on turning around moves AFAIK.

 

Interesting

 

Where are u seeing chibita do this?

 

The following are some of the flows I used, after 61PG (catch throw)
1. 61PG, 2/8, 2/8+P+K (evade attack)->evade attack combos
(I used this if I think the opponent will d+P)
2. 61PG, 2/8, 11/33, 6P+K -> side crumple combos
(I think need counter-hit for crumple)
3. 61PG, 2/8, 11/33, 6P -> Upper cut combos
(Due to +5 frame )

Just to share...

 

Basket, u still around ah? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif


Hahaha, got msn or not>?

 

Yeap.... still around, just these few months been busy... not much time to go Bugis to play. But been actively playing SC4 on PSN. My PSN is SgLion (what else) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

I think 1 is to beat evaders while 2 is to side crumple 2p opponents but /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif needs to be perfectly executed(16+1 frame) as you only get +5 from /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif.

 

Hahaha, kk, I'll add you.

But damn I suck at SC4. Wanna train me?

 

My idea is that assume that they are close to Ring Out/Wall when they tech roll, you do a catch throw then press either /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gifor /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif and it would give you +5 advantage, then from their you pull off a move that either has push back on block, a full spinning move, or both