VF5 Aoi Thread

VF5 AOI

The following are infomations that I have gathered on internet for VF5 AOI, mainly are from www.vfbbs.com

They might not be 100% accurate since the game is still in testing stage.


New moves Changes of old moves

Full circular Mid?

The move showed in official site, seems like a mid kick

+A mid~high canned combo, can be G cancelled. Will knock down on normal hit and combos above recovery hit. ( but doesnt connect any more in the new location test)

+Mid Punch and goes into backturn position, will float on counter hit


+High P

floats on norml hit, heavy weight punch counterable on guard

high K?? stumbles

New Moves in back turned position

BTlow kick, similar to front facing 2K

BThigh P , like the normal 2KP

BTmid punch

BT+high P string starter

BT+high P 2nd hit of the string

BT+highP, 3rd hit of string

BT+mid punch, looks like +

BT+high punch, looks like the second hit of +

In YY stance a new movement aoi gets out from the YY stance by doing a back spin

+ new throw..not confirmed yet

+ new throw can be tech rolled

Changes of old moves

YY stance Seems slower to start up, but people on vfbbs said it is the same as FT in the current location test

low throw is not guaranteed on counter hit anymore, not sure about stnading punch follow up yet

goes into back turn position, and it will push the opponent away by a little bit on either hit or guard.

2 hit had become a high hit, but it will still floats the opponent if the first hit is a stagger hit.

motion change.

while standing+ command changed to +no more stumble on counter hit, but you get a stagger hit instead

or+will goes into BT when G cancelled

or+ will goes to BT after the back spin

+motion change, became a high hit!!

+seems to combo on recovery counter now

+will turn your opponent sideway on hit


Combos


+~ ~+~ light down attack/ okizeme on light to middle weight

+ ~~+~ light down attack/ okizeme on light to middle weight

+~~

~~

+~~~light down attack

 

Nin this is great thanks for the work, I'm sure all the Aoi players out there appreciate it!

 

yeah thanks Nin for the translation,
Elbow changed to high!! Her poke game is going to be different now : / but new strings = /versus/images/graemlins/cool.gif inashi stance into backstep sounds too good too lol

 

Great stuff so far! Interesting BT moveset she's got now along more ways to go BT. Too cool.

 

Thanks, this is pretty cool. Hopefully any Seattle arcades(or there any, lol) will get the import for this game.

 

+ and second part of , becoming high is bad news for me.... /versus/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /versus/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I hope there will be some usefool set up/tools after her BT position, even if I can't see what ...

btw thanks for the news

 

massively edited after Nobody's post:
Uhm, Aoi seems to be able to block light down attacks.

She could already?

Ai ai ai... Checked the movelists... indeed... OMG!

For frag's sake... I even played with her for half a year or so. (Dropped her after I figured out she's really not my thing.)

Nobody I ever faced uses Aoi, and the AI doesn't seem to use the move either. Dang, this is so weird.

 

She's always been able to do that.

 

Hey Aoi fans I recommend this clip just in case you missed it at HK-VF TV:

javascript:callleftvideo('http://www.hk-vf.net/movie/vf5/2006-6-24_18_0_AOI_vs_LAU.wmv')

It nicely showcases some of Aoi's new moves, combos, and what kind of mind games she can play.

 

Bad news for Aoi, Arcadia 75 says, "stand was light weight class is now heavy class."

If I didnt read it wrong, Aoi's sabaki kicks, then > Hit Throw follow up. If > > Hit Throw all hit, it takes 30% of life gauge. So it's recommended against characters that kick a lot like Sarah and Kage.

Basic combo pick up:
1. + counter hit >
^ stable combo after crumble, against light weight, you can do >

2. or + >
^ Delay attack after ???(opp falls on the ground maybe?)

3. + >
^ All character stable combo. If you want to get initiative after combo, use > instead.

 

After seeing some clips:

MC seems still allow a free low throw attempt

second hit of +, seems a mid hit in fact

Is her really a heavy punch class?
She was hit by Jacky's then he follows by his and Aoi could interupt him with her

Guaranteed follow ups after parry/sabaki?:

punch parry: +, guaranteed?
+ sabaki: BT +,, guaranteed?
sabaki: free ~+

 

One of my posts was deleted when the server had problems.

I had corrected tianyuan2k2's translation about Aoi concerning her guaranteed combos.

on successful sabaki has a guaranteed second followup. Which you can follow up with + hit throw. It's about 1/3rd life like tianyuan2k2 said.

 

Yes, but I haven't seen the second follow up, that's why I wondered if without this second punch, you could still have a ~+ guaranteed?
The clip I refer to is:
2006-7-20_19_0_AOI_vs_JACKY.wmv

And after + thow and +, a + seems unescapable...great addition! /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

thanks

 

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Is her really a heavy punch class?
She was hit by Jacky's then he follows by his and Aoi could interupt him with her

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say here unfortunately. Are you saying that on a successful lp from Jacky he was/wasn't interrupted by Aoi's standing ? If she couldn't it's really just standard advantage - Aoi can't punch her way out of that. If it did interrupt I'm curious to ask if the Jacky player delayed at all before following up with 6 or if it's new frame advantage on lp.

Pardon my ignorance on not having seen the clip. I've been away from home the past few days with only access to my PC at work.

 

Something just occurred to me when I thought about VF4 Aoi's ability to reverse High-Mid single non-joint attacks when back-turned.

Assume VF5 Aoi retains reversal ability when back-turned, does she gain reversal ability when side-turned? I don't know if anyone talked about this ...

 

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Jerky said:

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Is her really a heavy punch class?
She was hit by Jacky's then he follows by his and Aoi could interupt him with her

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say here unfortunately. Are you saying that on a successful lp from Jacky he was/wasn't interrupted by Aoi's standing ? If she couldn't it's really just standard advantage - Aoi can't punch her way out of that. If it did interrupt I'm curious to ask if the Jacky player delayed at all before following up with 6 or if it's new frame advantage on lp.

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yes, she interrupts him
According to FT frame data, if Aoi has 11 frames , her and Jacky's should share hit
I think the Jacky player has delayed his attack, or maybe a new advantage on lp.

But I hope her is still 11 frames..
God I already think the lost of her mid +(why have they made this high???? /versus/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /versus/images/graemlins/tear.gif) can't be compensated by any of her new moves / BT stance tools /versus/images/graemlins/tear.gif /versus/images/graemlins/tear.gif

 

Her punch is really 13 frames in VF5, no doubt about it now. Also just to clear the confusion on the hit throw. The command is : ~~+
It only comes out when the first hit is a sabaki hit, also the motion of the second hit and the hit throw is exactly the same as her ~+


Also here are the Revision 1 changes

+ can be delayed now but lower float on hit. some of those stagger combos dont work now.

samll advantage on normal hit, low throw guarantee on counter hit now.

BT + doesnt float on normal hit

BT + can delay the last now

+ damage reduced

+ leg crubles on sabaki hit now, same as FT


Supid: there is no side reversal or inashi for AOI in VF5...

 

Now that my favorite poking 6P and 6P+K move is now high, any idea on which good move to use to poke mid?

As long as her 43P+K and 2K+G stays intact the changes to her is pretty okay.

 

is still mid

+ becoming high and a 13 frames make me sad /versus/images/graemlins/mad.gif /versus/images/graemlins/tear.gif
IMO, her good poking game has been weakened now, some of her good cancels moves lead to a useless BT or become high, and since throw become slower
It affects her a lot, give us back our FT Aoi /versus/images/graemlins/tear.gif

Maybe we has just to change our play now...
I think oabout some average tools to replace her mid +:
more , + and more +

 

Thanks for the clarfication. And about P becomes 13 frames - can standing P (still) interrupt throws? And how many frames is her 2P (heard it's been nerfed for most/all characters)?

It's been a while since I play VF (more than a year, sadly) but I think her 3K and 66P is throw punishable on block in VF4 FT. I used to key in the throw escapes after doing those moves.

Think the 6P mixups, 43P+K, 66P+KP, and 2K+G will still be her bread-and-butter in VF5, or at least mine.