VF5 El Blaze Thread

El Blaze is a luchadore. Unlike Wolf he counts on quick attacks and fast movement. He has a variety of throws too but they arn't as damaging as Wolf's... His combos don't drain too much either: Blaze is meant to keep the pressure on the opponent using fast moves and his Rocket Discharge stance.

You can enter Rocket Discharge after some moves by simply hitting ... This really allows you to keep the pressure on your opponent...

Basic Striking Attacks
Jab


Jab
+

Quick Hook


Quick Hook Combo


Burn Out Combo
(after hit or guard you can Discharge)

Jab -> High Kick


Jab -> Low Kick
+

Low Punch
+

Shadow Strike (elbow)
this is slower than the average elbow at 15 or 16 frames
+

Shadow Fang (elbow->knee)
knocks down on hit
+

Rolling Low Knuckle
kind of like Jacky's +
+

Body Blow
+

High Speed Jab
+

Shoulder
+

Flame Toe Kick
+

Back Spin Low Kick
++

Infernal Sobat
+ (after hit you can Discharge)

Rising Backspin Kick
+

Fake Roll
During Fake Roll:
<ul type="square">[*] Venus (a jumping dragon punch style uppercut)
[*] Venus Depasion (if the Venus dragon punch hits, you can can a kick after that) [/list]

Back Knuckle
+

Shadow Spin Kick
+ (after hit or guard you can Discharge)

Shadow Storm Combo
+

Jumping Elbow
+

High Kick


Low Kick
+

Hook
+

Face Hit
+

Quick Sobatto
+ (after hit or guard you can Discharge)

Slide Low Kick
(while ducking)

Middle Kick
+

Toe Kick
+

Shadow Slash
+

Face Smash
+

Darkness Sobatto
+ (after hit or guard you can Discharge)

Shadow Spear
+ (after hit you can Discharge)

Shadow Lance
(after hit or guard you can Discharge)

Head Smash Kick
+ (after hit or guard you can Discharge)

Fade Roll Kick
+ (you can hit to Discharge)

Desu Saizu Slash
+ (after hit or guard you can Discharge)

Drop Kick
+ (after hit you can Discharge)

Volcano Knee
(while standing)

Elbow
+

Double Elbow
+

Combo Elbow Upper
+

Darkness Hammer (perhaps his spike attack)
++

Straight
++

Quick Combo
++

Shadow Hammer
++ (while standing)

Hammer Slice
++

Shadow Upper
++

Combination Blow
++

Shadow Knee
++

Darkness Smash
++

Handsome Scratch Rush (hit throw)
The Darkness Smash comes out slowly, but if it hits the
catch throw is very damaging... If you hit this with your
opponent's back to the wall you will get a wall stagger...
If not you can still Discharge to put the pressure on...
++ (hit) ++ (after this hits you can hit to Discharge)

Volcano Uppercut
if you are hit during execution it might register as you being backturned
++

Rolling Body Press
++

Jumping Hammer Knuckle
++

Demon Dance
++

Demon's Tail
++

High Spin Kick (on hit leaves opponent sideturned)
+

Jumping Sobatto
++ (on hit you can Discharge)

Darkness Sword
++ (on hit you can Discharge)

Low Spin Kick (full circular sweep... knocks down on MC)
++

Low Drop Kick
has a slow execution but good for interrupting high strings...
Crumples on counter hit and can stagger too
++

Backfire
++
same as Rocket Discharge except he runs backwards

Rocket Discharge
++

Tornado Spin (sabaki)
++

Heartbreak Smash
++

Fake Sobatto
++

Darkness Flame
++ (hits) +
I havn't gotten the timing for this down yet

Offensive Move Techniques:
<ul type="square">[*] Quick Body [*] Quick Knee[/list]

Defensive Move Techniques:
<ul type="square">[*]+ Quick Back Spin Kick (after this hits you can hit to Discharge)[/list]

Rocket Discharge Moves
<ul type="square">[*] Flying Cross Chop
[*] Drop Kick
[*]+ Low Drop Kick
[*]+ Tobe Molutalu
[*]+ Demon Dance
[*]+ Demon's Tail (on hit or guard you can Discharge)
[*]++ Fake Roll
[*]+ Day Job high catch throw [/list]

Throws:
High Speed Brain Buster
+

Decapitation
++

Hole (arm?) Drag
++

Swinging DDT
++

Screw Drag
++

44 (Forty Four)
++

Whirlwind
++

Just Face Lock
+++

Astro Scissors
++

Head Scissors
++

Hammerthrough surprise exchange
++

High Speed Huracánrana
+ (high catch throw)

Wall Throws
Swinging DDT
++

Lebusukatta
++

Tobe Inberutida
++

Side Throws:
Thunder Crab
+ (on opponents right side)

Farushion
+ (on opponents left side)

Stinging Grip
++ or
++ (on opponents left side)

Strike Back
++ or
++ (on opponents right side)

Low Throws:
Rolling Crouch
El Blaze "rolls up" the opponent and you can combo after this
+++

Fantasma
surprise exchange
+++

Spread Wing
++

Side Low Throws:
Thunder Crab (on opponents left side)
or or +++

Farushion (on opponents right side)
or or +++

Back Low Throw:
Diamond Dust
or or +++

Combos:
Volcano Knee ( while standing)
<ul type="square">[*]~
[*]+~
[*]~+
[*][/list]

Hammer Slice +
<ul type="square">[*]+[/list]

Shadow Hammer + (while standing)
this move seems to be able to avoid some high/mid attacks during execution
<ul type="square">[*]+
[*]
[*]+[/list]

Rolling Crouch ++
<ul type="square">[*]
[*]
[*]+
[*][/list]

If + hits you get a nitaku between throw and ...
If that hits and you get a side crumple you can
use +.

His Day Job throw from Rocket Discharge stance is his most damaging and coolest looking throw. You'd be surprised how often you can hit opponents with it...

 

"Rocket Discharge"........... um yeeeeaaah.

 

[ QUOTE ]
supergolden said:
Handsome Scratch Rush


[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for the info!

/KiwE

 

Thx so much supergolden.

VF5 forum's been too quiet, and I'm glad you're willing to share with us what you've been learning.

I'm gonna try El Blaze once I get my hand on VF5!

 

He needs a move called "Burning Discharge."

Maybe it could look like Lion's old +

 

Or he gets mailed the results from the clinic...

 

El Blaze's + (a cartwheel away from the opponent) can hit the opponent causing a stagger... This is a great time to hit to Discharge and put the pressure on the opponent...

I've tried a billion different moves but can't find his attack to spike opponents... In the mean time I've been using + if I get a side crumple...

After his low throw
++ you can hit + for a lot of damage, perhaps more than his low throw....

-Alex

 

Article - VF5 El Blaze Combo List from Tougeki Tamashii 3
Author - Chakki
Source - Myke
Translation - Noodalls


1. While standing
2. While standing
3. While standing +
4. While standing +
5. +
6. +
7. Counter hit + +
8. Counter hit + BT
9. Counter hit +
10. Counter hit
11. +
12. Fake roll hit
13. Fake roll hit +
14. Opponent crouched ++
15. Opponent crouched ++
16. Any side stun +

While standing on normal hit, against all but heavy weights 1 is the standard combo, against Jeffrey only 1 . Against Wolf go straight into the . 3 is the combo you want to go for against Light weights and Brad. The biggest damage combo 4 works in open stance against Eileen, Aoi, Pai and against Aoi it will also work in closed stance.
After + combo 5 will work. Combo 6 works on light weights except for Aoi, and Brad, Lei, Lion and Law, and in open stance Aoi, Blaze, Shun and Jacky. In closd stance, it will connect on heavy weights. Counter hit into combo 8 is the standard. Against Akira, heavy weights will connect. The trick with combos 9 and 10 is to dash slightly before the . 9 works against light weights and Lau, combo 10 is for Eileen, Pai and Aoi only. In either case, if the distance is far they can be difficult. After +, + is recommended. Against Eileen, Aoi, Pai, Blaze and Lion, combo 11 is guaranteed.
After Fake roll hit hits, against all but heavy weights 12 is the basic, hold . Combo 13 will work on light weights as well as in open stnace Blaze, Goh, Brad and Jacky (normal hit).
After opponent crouched ++, on heavy weights + is recommended, otherwise combo 14 for the other characters. When you get a side stun. is guaranteed. 16 works on light and middle weights except for Akira, but depending on foot stance and hte position of the crumple there are times when it won't work. The ones who it is reliable against are light weights other than Sarah, Brad, Lei and Lion.

 

Thanks for the combos! I finally know what to do with side / back crumples... I swear I read this before I went to the arcade tonight and my win % went up - I was taking no prisoners!

-Alex

 

LUCKY !

 

VF5 El Blaze Combos

Thanks again for the post Noodalls... I've changed the formatting a bit so I can print it out and easily use it at the arcade...

Volcano Knee Combos (while standing )
<ul type="square">Normal hit on Wolf:


Normal hit on Jeffry:


Normal hit on everyone else:


Light weights and Brad:
+

Most damaging combo..
Open stance: Pai and Eileen
Both Stances: Aoi
+

Other (?):
[/list]

Shadow Hammer Combos (+)
<ul type="square">Standard:


Both stances: light weights, Brad, Lei, Lion and Lau.
Open stance: Aoi, Blaze, Shun and Jacky
Closed stance: Heavy weights
[/list]

Hammer Slice Combos (+)
<ul type="square">Counter hit standard:
+[/list]

Shadow Spear Combos ()
<ul type="square">Counter hit standard:
+ BT

Counter hit against Akira, heavy weights:


Light weights and Lau:
(small dash) +

Eileen, Pai, Aoi:
(small dash) [/list]

Jumping Hammer Knuckle Combos (+)
<ul type="square">Standard
+

Eileen, Aoi, Pai, Blaze, Lion:
[/list]

Fake Roll Venus Depasion Combos: (Fake Roll hit )
<ul type="square">Standard on all but heavyweights (hold ?):


Both stances: light weights
Open stance: Lei, Blaze, Goh, Brad, Jacky
+[/list]

Rolling Crouch Combos (++)
<ul type="square">Heavy Weights:
+

Standard 1:


Standard 2:
[/list]

Side Crumple Combos
<ul type="square">Standard


Most damaging works on light weights and Sarah, Brad, Lei and Lion (?)
+ [/list]

 

Re: VF5 El Blaze Combos

Have someone taken a look at the last round of this match?

I know I'm a beginner and I haven't seen many good matches, but in that last round El Blaze chained together a mix of crumples and staggers onto Jeffrey (maybe he's bad at struggling) for a really scary amount of damage; I was thinking "If this can combo just 1/3rd of the time, El Blaze is really overpowered ..."

Please somebody tell me that the combination can be struggled out of by a more-than-decent player.

 

Re: VF5 El Blaze Combos

Wow that was silly damage! Starts at 1:37.

 

Re: VF5 El Blaze Combos

That combo is not guaranteed...

First, the move that starts that combo (+) is really slow... I've hit it about once or twice during actual matches....

After that move you can go into Rocket Discharge while the opponent is struggling / at a disadvantage... The opponent has to guess right to escape damage, but its not guaranteed...

And at the end Jeffery could have teched the second hit of the elbow knee...

-Alex

 

Re: VF5 El Blaze Combos

[ QUOTE ]
Myke said:

Re: up0229.wmv

At 01:22, is that a hit-throw to end round 3?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes... The command is ++ (where you see him swerve, which can sebaki some attacks)... During this you hit and if that hits you can hit + for the Pelé kick...

-Alex

 

El Blaze's spike re-float move might be his jumping elbow, , although I can't get it out when the opponent is staggered because it registers as his pounce (since the opponent is considered a down state)... I tried canceling, holding , anything to get this to come out but with no luck...

Rumor has it that in Revision A he will be given a new (useable) spike re-float move...

-Alex

 

El Blazes Spike move is 9+p+k,K . He spins and does an over head kick. I have been finding some interesting set ups with El blaze.

 

Yeah, I noticed that yesterday completely by accident! I forget how I got him up in the air, but the bounce came as a nice surprise!

Version B allows for slightly different combos than the ones above; I plan on reporting my findings once I do a bit more testing regarding weight class.

INFORCER07, you mind posting some of the setups you've found? I'm really interested!