VFX Rumor

Discussion in 'The Vault' started by akiralove, Nov 20, 2000.

  1. akiralove

    akiralove Well-Known Member

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    The Magic Box says (roughly):

    RUMOR: Sega is planning to make VFX their first multiplatform game. It will be coming to dreamcast as well as other platforms next year.

    I'll let others discuss the implications.

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  2. Sudden_Death

    Sudden_Death Well-Known Member

    next year? i dont think so. i'll say 2 years
    after its been in the arcades.


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  3. Hayai_JiJi

    Hayai_JiJi Well-Known Member

    This rumor is so off-base it is laughable. First off if the almighty SEGA is going to make multiplatform games dont you think it would be a game franchise that is succesful all over the world. As opposed to one that is only popular in Asia and has a small cult following in North America.

    Under the surface of the most jaded cynic lies a dissappointed idealist- George Carlin
     
  4. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Actually, as unlikely as it might seem this rumour
    has some basis for belief.

    First: This is not the first time that something
    like this has been mentioned. In fact it was hinted
    that Sega might be looking to drop the hardware part
    of their business and concentrate solely on software.
    That didn't happen but it did come up, it was
    obviously something they had thought of before.

    Second: you are running off of the premise that VF-X
    is going to be the only multi-platform software released
    by SEGA or at least the first. This may not be true.
    They may be considering a complete software offering and
    what slipped out of the nets was information pertaining
    to VF-X.

    Who knows? I certainly do not. It wasn't so long ago
    that some people in Toronto were saying that there
    wouldn't be another installment in the Virtua series
    because of something a Sega Rep said. Now, this appears
    to be false. Anything is possible so far as business
    is concerned. Everyone keeps saying that SEGA is in
    financial trouble. Wouldn't a game marketed on the most
    suscessful console machines currently available expand
    their market penetration and lead to more sales?

    Potentially, at least.

    GE
     
  5. Hayai_JiJi

    Hayai_JiJi Well-Known Member

    I stand corrected. Two debate points awarded to GE.

    Under the surface of the most jaded cynic lies a dissappointed idealist- George Carlin
     
  6. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Yay! Debate points!

    seriously though, it wouldn't be out of the question
    for something like this to happen. I think I would
    welcome it.

    GE
     
  7. Hayai_JiJi

    Hayai_JiJi Well-Known Member

    Why would you welcome it. To me this would spell the end of SEGA as we know it. I mean they would have to bitch out to whomever owned the platform that they were developing for which would mean not nearly as much innovation as we are used to from SEGA.Which I think is a bad thing and I personally would rather see SEGA go out on their shield.

    Under the surface of the most jaded cynic lies a dissappointed idealist- George Carlin
     
  8. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    well keep in mind that I'm talking console systems
    not arcade. On Console systems you definately
    need huge penetration. SEGA didn't have that
    in their hugely humiliating battle with Sony but
    it might have had they simply generated software
    instead of trying to tie the consumer to their
    hardware; which people didn't care to buy.

    ahem. Not being able to preduct the future
    that might be in store should SEGA care to
    make this change I would have to say that
    change might be good. Who is to say that the
    SEGA as we know it is the perfect expression.
    Maybe their problem has always been great
    vision bogged down by the distraction of
    uneccesary ballast. Hardware.

    Innovation would not necessarily be
    compromised. How could it? Arcade VF2
    was made and made exceptionally well
    with no thought to the home port. As
    well it can be argued that the Saturn
    was made with no thought to Model 2, the
    board that all major SEGA games were
    derived from. And yet the spirit of
    innovation remained the same. Games of
    great worth were still being turned out.

    I would argue that regardless of the platform
    that SEGA decides to publish games for their
    games will contain the same excellence we expect.
    not less. The artists wil not have changed,
    simply the canvas.

    GE
     
  9. Hayai_JiJi

    Hayai_JiJi Well-Known Member

    I'm throwing in the towel

    That ends that discussion .

    Under the surface of the most jaded cynic lies a dissappointed idealist- George Carlin
     
  10. Hayai_JiJi

    Hayai_JiJi Well-Known Member

    I rescind the towel.

    Alright so being a third party devolper would not hurt SEGA as a arcade game producer. However I think it would severly limit their home only games I mean it is arguable that the lion's share of SEGA marquee games are non arcade games even Crazi Taxi 2 is said to be home only and then their are franchises such as Streets Of Rage, All the Sonic Team games and the Phantasy Star games. I am also pretty sure their wouldnt be this internet play through home consoles thing if it was not for SEGA pushing the idea so heavily and the home game industry as a hole would be completly different from what it is now. As I see it if it were not for SEGA i'm pretty sure Nintendo would have a monopoly.

    Under the surface of the most jaded cynic lies a dissappointed idealist- George Carlin
     
  11. Mr. Bungle

    Mr. Bungle Well-Known Member

    Re: I rescind the towel.

    >>Alright so being a third party devolper would not hurt SEGA as a arcade game producer.

    god no. considering that all other arcade systems are utter shit compared to sega's...i don't see how that is.

    unarguably, for well over a decade, and with no end in sight, sega has made the absolute finest arcade hardware, and arguably, the finest arcade software.

    knee jerk: i say, to hell with the home system hardware, at least in japan. stick with the arcade dept in japan. that's where sega made it's name, fame and money.


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    "The world ends tomorrow AND YOU MIGHT DIE!!!"
     
  12. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Re: I rescind the towel.

    no no...you can't rescind a thrown towel. A towel
    laid is a towel played.

    ...ehnnnn, oh well.

    However I think it would severly limit their home only games I mean it is arguable that the lion's share of SEGA marquee games are non arcade games even Crazi Taxi 2 is said to be home only and then their are franchises such as Streets Of Rage, All the Sonic Team games and the Phantasy Star games.

    I have to admit bias here. I don't much care for
    most console type games. So I can't at all make
    adequate comment. I did like sonic though. What
    I need to know is how it would limit their
    home games. Why would not being in control of
    the hardware affect their software/design at all?

    I am also pretty sure their wouldnt be this internet play through home consoles thing if it was not for SEGA pushing the idea so heavily and the home game industry as a hole would be completly different from what it is now. As I see it if it were not for SEGA i'm pretty sure Nintendo would have a monopoly.

    ahHA! Something I can argue. My point is that an
    evolution from SEGA might not be a bad thing, that
    a future where SEGA makes software instead of
    hardware for the home market would not necessarily
    spell and reduction in vision or quality.

    Now you seem to be arguing that the
    gaming world would have been different if
    SEGA's involvement in the past had been
    different that we know it to be. Sort of
    a parallel dimension type ponderance.

    buuhhhhttt?

    GE
     
  13. kbcat

    kbcat Well-Known Member

    Re: I rescind the towel.

    I need to know is how it would limit their
    home games. Why would not being in control of
    the hardware affect their software/design at all?


    In the console business it is usual practice that the
    console developer must approve any game that will be
    published on their system. So, if Sega were to dispose
    of the console business then they would have to get their
    games approved before they could be published (except on
    the PC, of course). That means if Sega's competitors were
    in a particularly foul mood they could prevent Sega's games
    from being published on their console. It's an unlikely
    situation, since Sega is a top-notch game developer, but it
    is possible.

    cheers,
    kbcat
     
  14. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Re: I rescind the towel.

    ahhhh. Okay, that clairifies that particular
    point.

    I think unlikely is right. Especially since
    home gaming is expansive right now. The PC
    market, Xbox, nintendo, Playstation. It seems
    to keep getting bigger. The larger the market
    is the less likely it seems that a game of
    SEGA's would not be published for at least one
    hardware developer. In which case their
    position would not have changed.

    GE
    -eagerly awaiting Intellivision 2000
     
  15. nascarbryant

    nascarbryant Well-Known Member

    never ever............too much work(think that some of the shenmue team are working on FV2 allready since December)............they need their people on other projects like 6XGDRom Shenmue 2
     

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