WHAT IS A DMer?

Everyone always talks about how they hate DMers. What does that stand for anyway?

 

Defensive Move (/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif)

DMer is person who spams them.

 

Hmm a good technique agaist dmer's would be to throw right ?

 

Just watch them move and throw them right away or just do horizontal sweep attacks hitting them as they do the DM this also works for OM's as well.

 

Defensive Move = /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif, in other words what in VF4 was called Evade.

The evade attack is *not* called Defensive Move.

 

I still thinks it makes more sense to call evade "evade" and evade P+K "DM"

Throwing the spammer will not work. It beats throws.

 

I beats throws online mainly because of lag. Offline it will clash from -5 and down.

 

that's an important note please I don't want to have more linguistic arguments about DM and DM attack

 

Right, just like it makes more sense to call /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif "OM", and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif ____ and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif ____ . . . oh wait, no, it makes no sense at all. DM is the defensive movement, DM /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is the canned attack after the defensive movement.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Throwing the spammer will not work. It beats throws. </div></div>

This is false. DM P+K generally has no anti-clash properties, it either will or won't clash depending on frames - anyone who doubts this can pretty easily test it in dojo. Also note that since they have to DM before they can do the canned P+K, it is possible to throw them before the attack comes out (again, depending on frames).

It's also not just -5 or worse situations that it clashes in like oioron said, different chars have different DM P+K speeds, and it will come out at various times after the DM depending on when P+K is pushed.

 

You evade. You hit pk. You did a DM

You evade. You hit pkg. You did an OM

That makes more sense to me personally than to say that you did a DM and then pushed pkg, changing your DM into an OM. Of course, the makers of the game can call it what they want, even if it makes no sense.

 

Evade is DM, only if you press P+K during DM then it becomes the DM attack.
Evade + P+K+G is OM, only if you press P or K during OM then it becomes an OM attack.
DM and OM are just the movements. Defensive Move to evade attacks and Offensive Move to close the distance/apply pressure.
They're not attacks until you make them so.

 

OM is not an evade move.

 

Defensive moves, huh? That's what I figured DM moves stood for. You know, I've never had a problem with people spamming DMs on me before. Also, it doesn't seem like DMs would be very hard to get around....

 

No. DM means DEFENSIVE MOVE. DM attack is P+K during DM. Each character (except for Vanessa) has only one DM attack. "DMs" are not attacks.

 

They are easy to beat though right?

It's like, they only work well when someone is spamming them, if the other person is constantly attacking.

 

Yeah, they sure can






I suggest you do the same - we get enough questions about "how do I do XXXXX" without you confusing the issue with bad terminology.

As for all the whining about people who DM P+K too much, use (half)circular moves to beat it or just block it and take your free guaranteed damage.

'Nuff said. Please dont start another topic about this.