Advanced Fuzzy Guard Technique in Back Turn

Discussion in 'Dojo' started by Sente, Apr 24, 2025.

  1. Sente

    Sente Well-Known Member

    Credit to @Combolammas for notifying me about a fuzzy guard technique for at least -6 in back turn.

    Core Information Summary
    • In back turn, it is possible to fuzzy guard an immediate throw and mid up to -8f advantage. [2] must be input at least one frame before the character fully recovers from the attack. [2] can be held past that point or input and held well before that point as long as [2] is still input on the frame before the character fully recovers from the attack. [G] must be input in a window starting on the frame the character fully recovers from the attack. At -6f advantage, there is a three frame window to input [G]. It reduces by one frame until there is only a one frame window to input [G] for -8f advantage.
    • When both characters face each other, there is a similar technique available for -4f advantage. [2] and [G] can be held at any time during recovery. However, there is a one frame window where [2] must be released after the character recovers. I have not found any windows to fuzzy at -5f advantage or worse with a similar technique. Crouch dashing is still required it seems for -5f, and fuzzy does not seem possible at -6f or worse.
    Recreating Testing Data
    • Testing was done with El Blaze [4][P][+][K], Aoi [6][4][P][+][K], Kage Shippujin [6_][K][K], and Lau [4][4][P] against each of the character's [P][+][G] and Wolf's [6][P][+][G]. It is possible to fuzzy the 9f throw at -7f advantage.
    • El Blaze [4][P][+][K] requires inputting [G] on the 46th-48th frame after [4][P][+][K].
    • Aoi [6][4][P][+][K] requires inputting [G] on the 47th-49th frame after [6][4][P][+][K].
    • Kage Shippujin [6_][K][K] requires inputting [G] on the 60th-61st frame after the final [K] assuming [6_][K][K] was input at the earliest possible timing.
    • Lau [4][4][P] requires inputting [G] on the 58th frame after [4][4][P].
    • Attached are Eddienput playback files to recreate the test scenarios.
     

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    Last edited: Apr 24, 2025
    Chanchai, akai, Oioron and 3 others like this.

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