1. Hey Guest, looking for Virtua Fighter 5: Ultimate Showdown content? Rest assured that the game is identical to Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown so all current resources on here such as Command Lists with frame data, Combo Lists and the Wiki still apply. However, you can expect some VF5US specific changes to come soon!
    Dismiss Notice

Help against Lau!

Discussion in 'Pai' started by Cruz, Nov 23, 2007.

  1. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    Okay, I know this may sound noobish but there is a Lau named "Daimon Lau" and he's is really pissing me off. He always does that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif thing and I can't do a thing. I tried evading and guarding then retaliating but he always catches me off-guard. How do you beat that bastard father of hers!?
     
  2. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

    PSN:
    Myke623
    XBL:
    Myke623
    You need to work on your reaction time.

    Don't evade, because the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is a full circular attack, and will still hit you even if you've evaded the punches to Lau's side.

    "guarding then retaliating" is all that's required, and I hope you're guarding low.

    If you happen to be guarding the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif series, and provided you can react fast enough, then you should be able to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif Lau before he gets a chance to finish with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

    If this is too difficult at first, then just /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif and punish Lau with your biggest combo.
     
  3. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    I already know not to evade at /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, but he still gets the upper hand after I guard it. I guess it's just my slow reaction or I've been playing too long...
     
  4. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

    PSN:
    Myke623
    XBL:
    Myke623
    If you're unable to react in time to heavily punish Lau after guarding the spinning /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, then your reaction time is way too slow.

    Since you alredy know "what" to do, you just need to keep practicing to improve your reaction time. There's nothing else that can help.
     
  5. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    ...or maybe your just fast. Thanks. Now I need to get some sllep anyways.
     
  6. KoD

    KoD Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    codiak
    It may be that Lau's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif stops hit frames & enters recovery frames earlier that you realize - you don't have to keep guarding past a certain point in his spinning. If you have vf4 evo, record him doing /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, then try to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif him as soon as you block the first part of the spin.

    nice sig, btw :|
    input speed != reaction time
     
  7. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

    PSN:
    manjimaruFI
    XBL:
    freedfrmtheReal
    Thats one of the slowest recovery moves in the game propably, so its definitely you. Honestly, my grandmother could punish it.
     
  8. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your help, I will do that! While it is true that I am currently the world's fastest inputter of Pai's commands, that doesn't mean I have good reflexes.
     
  9. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    See my quote!
     
  10. SS8

    SS8 Well-Known Member

    Like it was mentioned, block and once you have attack. I've played this CPU and hated him too in quest mode, ARCADE ACES FTL! The entire fight is not hard if you block and then low grab. It worked for me, but I did dash in after I blocked.
     
  11. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    Re: Help against Lau.

    Since I use the 360 controller, when I try to do a low throw, it slips and a low punch comes out. I guess I just need to get used to it.
     
  12. EmX

    EmX Well-Known Member

    Re: Help against Lau.

    use a macro for P+K+G

    also yes we know "fast" and "slow" are relative terms, no need to get snippy good sir, but basically in the VF world if your reaction time is poor enough that you cannot punish a move like /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif at the end of Lau's punch string then you are in need of some serious practice
     
  13. Shiznittles

    Shiznittles Well-Known Member

    Re: Help against Lau.

    Lau seems a terror at first but his basic crap is near worthless if you know him.

    Hit me up for some sparring sessions and I will walk you through his patented moves. I think we can have your Pai up to speed in no time.

    -Tim GT "Dark Timmy"
     
  14. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    Re: Help against Lau.

    If you mean training in VS. Mode, my Gamertag should be in my sig.
     
  15. Chunbelievable

    Chunbelievable Well-Known Member

    KoD is right with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif but if you can also just /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or what esle I do is /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif which will launch Lau for combo. If Lau doesn't try to snuff the scoop he can block the move but at least you are now at advantage.

    Then the next time in that you are in the same sequence you can /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif from the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif which is a backflip cartwheel thingy, will hit crouching Lau's, and put you at a pretty safe distance to start a mid range game with no advantage to either player.
     
  16. Chunbelievable

    Chunbelievable Well-Known Member

    At least I think you are at advantage after the scoop. If anything you are at an even playing field. Am I wrong on this one? Anyhone?
     
  17. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    The one who suggested to block then low throw worked well. Just need to practice the controller so I can do low throws instead of low punch.
     
  18. KoD

    KoD Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    codiak
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is at large disadvantage on block; /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is punishable on block. He can block either one after the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif. You definitely dont want to /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif him after he sweeps unless that's all you can manage to do, because you have better guaranteed damage options. Ditto for low throw unless you know he doesn't escape low throws.

    heck, you might want to play around with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif combos - since its special high, it should hit the recovering sweep.
     
  19. Chunbelievable

    Chunbelievable Well-Known Member

    Cool, thanks KoD.
     
  20. Cruz

    Cruz Well-Known Member

    I might try that sometime. Thanks!
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice