VF5US/R.E.V.O. Version 2.0 Akira Changes

This his old wall throw?

 

SO glad it's back

 

The input for Double Palm followup after guard breaks and is actually instead of what the notes say, or at least I can never get it to come out with that specific input.

 

Hey so I was coming here specifically to ask about this.

All three of the post guard-break Double Palm followups (the last three moves on his normal moves page in training), seem to be nearly impossible.

Even just the regular Double Palm by itself, if you watch the demonstration, the computer even has to do a crouching punch first, before doing the
(just like actual human players have to do. There's literally no way to do just , and have a double palm come out as a result. you have to do: first, or one of several other moves that leave you crouched for a split second, then ).

So how are we supposed to pull off any of these Double Palm followups?
there's no way to get in the ducked position whatsoever in time during / after the guard break

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UPDATE: since starting to type this, i've pulled off those last three moves, only one time each in the last half hour... (by doing just like you said: instead of .)

But man.. the consistency is just nonexistent with any of these three moves.

It's literally easier to do Akira's "reversal of doom" combo (Jirou Tanzan Toryu Tenshin Hazankai), than it is to do any of these seemingly simple 3 new commands.

I can at least do the "reversal of doom" about 2 out of 5 tries.

but these three new double-palm follow-ups however: about 1 out of every 200 tries

Does anybody have any more insight into these moves? Something seems terribly wrong.

 

You always had to input it as 2146p in the previous versions.

For regular dblplm you buffer a crouch dash then hit 46p.

 

You're not hitting all the 2146 points and you need to relax more if you over try it won't come out, feel more and not worry about the timing.

 

Let's friggin go.

The euphoria I felt when I did his wall throw. Beautiful, man. I'm glad that particular throw mid screen is back in general, too. I really like that one. Same for his 1,6p+g. I love launching them with that one. Feels nice and powerful when you do it. Glad to have that over the mix up one he had before. It was a bit too strong (in my opinion) too, to get that 50/50 mix up. And even if they blocked the p follow up, the push distance was insane. So it was always extremely safe to do, plus the reward if you hit them was nutty.

Also glad to see you can't 46p after the 6p+k+g guard break. The combo damage was way too high with the 46p starter after a simple guard break.

I also really like the input being 7/9 after the 43p move. Even though I personally don't use that move as much as I should, it helps to not accidentally do the side step when you want to 2p.

I really love these changes. Glad to see his new throws and to see that well needed nerf of the 46p after the guard break. Way better balance for him.

Also, does "hit repeatedly on recovery counter hit" on his DLC move mean it turns into a natural combo if you hit them on their recovery?

 

I don't have access to the game, so can anyone confirm if is still guaranteed after successful ++ on side turned opponent?

 

1frame knee, and are guaranteed on sideturn after and

 

In version A, 17f moves were guaranteed but your opponent had time to crouch, which would mess up your juggle for KNEE etc.

On side turned and gave the highest (guaranteed) damage after successful .

I'm going to presume that opponent can still crouch vs 17f moves after his guard break on side turned and I doubt floats the opponent properly too because of the reduction in frames from successful guard break.

I am glad is still guaranteed though, thanks man.

I presume that's what it means, you should be able to DLC and to punish sweeps now.

Damn I want this game.

EDIT: His jumping kick isn't safe anymore... they can't make poster boy punishable on block :/

 

6P+K+G to the side is +15
2P+K+G to the side is +14

3K+GP+K now requires rCH to be guaranteed on the side. The didn't change how it functions from the front and it still requires CH.

DLC is indeed guaranteed on rCH now. It's also guaranteed on NH to the side so you could do it after a side GB if you so desired for some reason.