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Discussion in 'Taka' started by Myke, Apr 11, 2016.

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  1. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    VF5FS Natural Combos vs Taka
    In VF5FS, Taka has a unique property when in comes to getting hit. Attacks that normally knock down the other characters don't always knock Taka down in the same way, if at all! Additionally, certain attack strings will behave as a Natural Combo when performed against Taka where they ordinarily wouldn't against the others.

    Before we begin, a quick definition:

    Natural Combo (noun): a sequence of attacks which are all guaranteed to hit provided the first attack hits. That is, after the first attack hits, the remaining attacks cannot be guarded.


    This page lists all Natural Combos versus Taka that are not Natural Combos against the remaining cast. Special conditions required for the combo will be listed with the input, otherwise the input works on Normal Hit.

    Contents


    Akira(top)

    • [3][K][+][G][P][P][+][K] (however, leaves Akira at -10 frames disadvantage!)
    • [3][K][+][G][P][4][6][6][P][+][K]

    Aoi(top)

    • [P][P][K]
    • [P][P][6][P][P]
    • [K][P][K]
    • (side) RH [2][K][P][P]

    Brad(top)

    • Ducking [P][P][P][P]
    • RH [K][P][K]

    Eileen(top)

    • [4][P][P][K]
    • RH [P][P][6][P]

    El Blaze(top)

    • [P][+][K][P][P]
    • [4][K][P][P]
    • RH [P][P][K]
    • RH [K][K][K]
    • RH [4][P][K][P]

    Goh(top)

    • [4][6][P][+][K][P][P]
    • RH [4][6][P][+][K][P][6][P]

    Jacky(top)

    • [P][P][6][P][K], and by extension:
      • [6][P][+][K] > [P][P][6][P][K]
      • (side) [6][P][+][K] > [6][P][+][K] > [P][P][6][P][K]
    • [3][K][P][K]

    Jean(top)

    • RH [P][P][K]

    Jeffry(top)

    • RH [P][P][P]
    • RH [P][K][P]

    Kage(top)

    • Shippujin [P][P][P]
    • RH [P][P][P][K]
    • RH [1][P][P][P][K]
    • RH [3][K][P][P]

    Lau(top)

    • [3][K][P][P]
    • RH [P][P][K]
    • Kokei RH [P][P][P]

    Lei Fei(top)

    • [6][P][+][K][P][P]
    • [2][P][+][K][P]
    • Hai Shiki [P][P][+][K]
    • RH [P][P][P]
    • RH [P][6][P][P]
    • RH [4][K][+][G][K][K]

    Lion(top)

    • RH [P][K][P]

    Pai(top)

    • [3][K][P][P]
    • [2][P][+][K][K][P]
    • RH [P][P][K][K]
    • RH [3][P][P][K][K]

    Sarah(top)

    • RH [P][P][P][4] or [7][K]
    • Flamingo [K][K][K][K]

    Shun(top)

    • (4 drinks) [P][P][4][P][P]

    Taka(top)

    • RH [P][P][6][P]
    • RH [6][K][P][P]

    Vanessa(top)

    • DS [6][P][K][K]
    • OS [P][P][6][P][K]
    • OS [P][P][6][P][P]
    • OS [6][6][K][K]
    • RH OS [P][P][K]

    Wolf(top)

    • RH [P][P][P]
    • RH [6][2][4][P][P]
    Last Modified: Apr 14, 2016 at 8:17 AM (Cached)
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2021
    Myke, Apr 11, 2016
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  2. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    This is bare bones at the moment, but if you have any additions / corrections please reply and let me know!
     
    Myke, Apr 11, 2016
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  3. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    Jacky:
    PP6PK
    3KPK
    6P+K, PP6PK

    natural combo from the side:
    6P+K 6P+K PP6PK

    Sarah:
    PPP7K
     
    Manjimaru, Apr 11, 2016
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  4. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    The latter is just an extension of the former, right? That is, (side) 6P+K guarantees another 6P+K versus everyone, so that's not unique to Taka.

    Already listed as PPP4K, but I'll add both notations.
     
    Myke, Apr 11, 2016
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  5. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    I thought that since you would always do it vs Taka in full when on the side, and the followup only applies to Taka, it might be clearer to list the whole thing rather than let beginners figure out on their own what is possible and what is not. Its also maxdamage on NH from the side. YMMV.
     
    Manjimaru, Apr 11, 2016
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  6. AlexMD

    AlexMD Well-Known Member

    Lau:
    3KPP, PPK (mC)

    Jeff:
    6PP,66PP (delay second hit)
    PPP (mC)

    Sarah:
    9K+Gkk,(knockdown)7k or 3kk guaranteed

    Kage:
    3KPP (mC)
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2016
    AlexMD, Apr 11, 2016
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  7. AlexMD

    AlexMD Well-Known Member

    PAI:
    2P+KKP
    LION:
    6PP (mC) 66KK (combos after 6pp in closed stance)
     
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    AlexMD, Apr 11, 2016
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  8. AlexMD

    AlexMD Well-Known Member

    LEI:
    6P+KPP
    2P+KP
     
    AlexMD, Apr 11, 2016
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  9. AlexMD

    AlexMD Well-Known Member

    AKIRA:
    FC6PP, 2P, FC46P

    BRAD:
    Ducking PPPP

    VANESSA:
    KPP, 66KP (slight dash required for 66KP to connect)
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2016
    AlexMD, Apr 11, 2016
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  10. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    Goh: 46P+KPP
     
    Cozby, Apr 11, 2016
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  11. Kruza

    Kruza Well-Known Member

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    Aoi's 2KPP string is guaranteed on Recovery Hit from side vs. Taka.

    Kruza
     
    Kruza, Apr 11, 2016
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  12. Combolammas

    Combolammas Sheep

    Pai NH 3KPP, RH PPKK and RH 3PPKK

    Jean RH PPK

    Sarah NH FLA KKKK

    Blaze RH PPK

    Goh 3KP and RH 4PP are not Taka specific.
     
    Combolammas, Apr 11, 2016
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  13. AlexMD

    AlexMD Well-Known Member

    What about knockdown attacks/strings that guarantee a combo vs Taka?, like Jean 4KP,33PK. Those combo after the first hit and are Taka specific.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2016
    AlexMD, Apr 11, 2016
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  14. Combolammas

    Combolammas Sheep

    Doesn't Sarah PPP4K require RH?
     
    Combolammas, Apr 11, 2016
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  15. Mister

    Mister Well-Known Member Content Manager Wolf Content Manager Sarah Content Manager Aoi

    I guess the best place for that will be the combo list of that character. I listed myself some combos that works only vs Taka for Wolf.
    I think we should keep thing simple in the wiki and list only "strings" that are NC vs Taka. But I didn't consult with Myke about that and I'll wait his input on this matter.
     
    Mister, Apr 11, 2016
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  16. AlexMD

    AlexMD Well-Known Member

    Ok, that makes sense, I just noticed that those types of moves were missing from some characters combo lists(Akira,Lion,Sarah,Vanessa)although some of them are buried in the forums,and wasn't sure whether this would be a good place to compile them.
     
    AlexMD, Apr 11, 2016
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  17. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    I agree that non-natural Taka only combos can be listed in the Combo sections. If you have some to share, post them up in the appropriate character specific combo thread and if one doesn't exist, just create one.
     
    Myke, Apr 11, 2016
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  18. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    I'm pretty sure Akira's [3][K][+][G][P][4][6][6][P][+][K] is a NC on Recovery Hit (RH). Is someone able to quickly test? Otherwise I'll confirm tonight.
     
    Myke, Apr 11, 2016
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  19. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    Vanessa DS [6][P][K][K] combos vs Taka on Recovery Hit
    Vanessa OS [P][P][K] combos vs Taka on Recovery Hit

    Could this information be ultimately included in the "notes" column of the Command List?
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2016
    erdraug, Apr 12, 2016
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  20. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Great idea! Once the wiki page matures (enough) I'll get around to updating the Command Lists with a note using the following syntax:

    "Natural Combo vs Taka [on Recovery|Counter Hit]"
     
    Myke, Apr 12, 2016
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