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A Rivalry Has Arrived! Juicebox (BR) vs. Chanchai (LI)

Discussion in 'VF.TV' started by Chanchai, Jun 18, 2021.

  1. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    A RIVALRY HAS ARRIVED!
    I am marking this moment, Juicebox has caught up to me in our matchup! If I don't train hard, he will steamroll me going forward! Here is our session this morning (from his angle), with viewer chat and post match thoughts!

    Because of the way Juicebox trains/learns/builds up... This does not mean he has arrived for some other matchups with veterans. But he's really not that far off, but this guy is hard focus, one matchup at a time!

    In 6 months, we have a rivalry! Usually it takes 2 years!

    This view of the battle was great as it included commentary and tips from the chat audience and reflections by the players and audience afterward! Always an honor to fight Juicebox, he is getting so strong so fast and I think he made better decisions than me on this day, he just didn't convert all of those decisions into higher damage. But next time he will!

    If I do not improve, Juicebox's Brad will be steamrolling me going forward! And his Goh will be pure hell! ANOTHER TRUE RIVAL HAS ARRIVED!

    Date of Event: June 18th, 2021
    Approximate Time: 3:30am - 5:30am PST




    ABOUT JUICEBOX_FGC
    Juicebox became famous in Street Fighter IV with his Abel and strong performances at Evo! He has also become known for being a Student (one might say Scientist) of Fighting Games that has tackled many fighting games including the execution heavy King of Fighters series. With strong and self-checking analysis, disciplined labbing, his own skills, and exceptional communication skills--Juicebox continues to successfully breakdown and help others understand fighting games.

    Juicebox is a unique talent that likes to work in the live environments of Twitch and Twitter.

    Please support Juicebox by checking him out and following him on Twitch and following him on Twitter! His Twitch Livestream is an excellent place to work on and talk about your VF game, his knowledge is exceptional--better than many veterans--and tends to answer almost every question sent his way! I definitely believe that Juicebox's Twitch channel is one of the best places to be as a western Virtua Fighter player!

    Rumor has it, Juicebox FGC is coming to YouTube!

    Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/juicebox_fgc
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Juicebox_FGC/
    MY CREDITS: CHANCHAI
    Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/chanchai_vf
    Twitter: @Chanchai_VF
     
  2. Tha_FeauchA

    Tha_FeauchA Yosha!

    PSN:
    Medina_Rico
    Dope. Having more people playing is awesome. Every player hanging around counts! And that dude is a lab monster.
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2021
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  3. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    CHANCHAI (Lion) vs. JUICEBOX FGC (Brad) II - Rivalry Fulfilled



    Juicebox (Brad) vs. Chanchai (Lion) II

    From the perspective of Juicebox's Livestream is this battle between Juicebox and Chanchai. Last week I officially called it a rivalry and this match furthers the case!

    Juicebox's Brad comes back with improved damage, more insight in how to use Brad against Lion, and having accomplished some of the goals Juicebox had set. Chanchai's Lion has been fighting very aggressive monsters and been working on processing the close exchanges in VF a little faster and dealing with the unique tools of other characters like DS Vanessa, Akira, and Lau.

    Both fighters come into this match with a lot of training in the past week and fought this serious back and forth battle in front of a lot of viewers! An exciting battle!

    This video comes from Juicebox FGC's Twitch.

    Original Air Date: 6/22/21

    Time of Matches: 3:45am - 5:45am PST

    JUICEBOX_FGC
    Juicebox became famous in Street Fighter IV with his Abel and strong performances at Evo! He has also become known for being a Student (one might say Scientist) of Fighting Games that has tackled many fighting games including the execution heavy King of Fighters series. With strong and self-checking analysis, disciplined labbing, his own skills, and exceptional communication skills--Juicebox continues to successfully breakdown and help others understand fighting games.

    Juicebox is a unique talent that likes to work in the live environments of Twitch and Twitter.

    Please support Juicebox by checking him out and following him on Twitch and following him on Twitter! His Twitch Livestream is an excellent place to work on and talk about your VF game, his knowledge is exceptional--better than many veterans--and tends to answer almost every question sent his way! I definitely believe that Juicebox's Twitch channel is one of the best places to be as a western Virtua Fighter player!

    Twitter:https://twitter.com/Juicebox_FGC

    Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/juicebox_fgc

    ABOUT CHANCHAI
    Competitive Virtua Fighter player from North America with a passion for building and helping gaming communities.

    I am a restaurant professional and have run 7 restaurants and 2 amusement centers. I have also worked at esports events around the world and run local and regional tournaments and gatherings.

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/saintchanchai
    Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/chanchai_vf
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Chanchai_VF
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chanchai_vf/
     
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  4. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    CHANCHAI (Lion) vs. JUICEBOX FGC (Brad) III



    From Juicebox FGC's Twitch and on the eve of a wonderful VF SoCal Trip for Juicebox, we fight some sets!

    We have sparred a little bit since our second 1v1 session and both of us have improved a lot in the past month. I know Juicebox is going to have an amazing time playing offline VF with some of the finest players in NA, in Los Angeles. It is going to be an amazing experience. I am glad we were able to have this battle before his big trip! Thanks for the matches, Juice, have an awesome time in SoCal--wish I could be there too!

    Original Airdate: July 15th, 2021
    Original Airtime: 1:40am - 3:40am
    Originally Broadcasted on: https://www.twitch.tv/juicebox_fgc/

    ABOUT JUICEBOX_FGC
    Juicebox became famous in Street Fighter IV with his Abel and strong performances at Evo! He has also become known for being a Student (one might say Scientist) of Fighting Games that has tackled many fighting games including the execution heavy King of Fighters series. With strong and self-checking analysis, disciplined labbing, his own skills, and exceptional communication skills--Juicebox continues to successfully breakdown and help others understand fighting games.

    Juicebox is a unique talent that likes to work in the live environments of Twitch and Twitter. Please support Juicebox by checking him out and following him on Twitch and following him on Twitter! His Twitch Livestream is an excellent place to work on and talk about your VF game, his knowledge is exceptional--better than many veterans--and tends to answer almost every question sent his way! I definitely believe that

    Juicebox's Twitch channel is one of the best places to be as a western Virtua Fighter player!

    Twitter: @Juicebox_FGC
    Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/juicebox_fgc

    ABOUT CHANCHAI
    Competitive Virtua Fighter player from North America with a passion for building and helping gaming communities. I am a restaurant professional and have run 7 restaurants and 2 amusement centers. I have also worked at esports events around the world and run local and regional tournaments and gatherings.

    Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/chanchai_vf
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/Chanchai_VF
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chanchai_vf/
     
  5. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    Regarding Chanchai vs. Juicebox III, I should probably address a few things in the video.

    • There's a moment where Lion and Brad both uppercut at the same time and it frustrates Juicebox that Brad's uppercut lost out and he cites some stats. My guess is that in Juicebox's matchup notes, he wrote down Lion's uppercut as being 16 frames, maybe because he was factoring in an assumption that the uppercut is being used while Lion is alreayd standing up and not crouched. This move is 15 frames from a crouch position. In the video, both players 2P each other at the same time and both get damaged, they were both crouching and both inputted uppercuts. Lion's uppercut is faster by 1 frame in this case. I think how frame tight this is and how we are playing shows we have a pretty good or decent connection.

    • Later on there is a moment where Juicebox is frustrated that Lion's uppercut (2_3P) wins a situation after Lion's 2P is blocked. This uppercut has had this property for a long time (since VF2, I believe) but it's hard to pin down the exact circumstances. I believe that Final Showdown readjusted this move by allowing it to have a weird ability to win certain situations and that it cheats less against Kicks like it used to, and more against things like high punch, and elbow. In the case of Lion vs. Brad, it's not the same situation as mentioned in the video, but in closed stance Lion can interrupt Brad's elbow after Brad blocks a 2P.

    • I am going to state here that I honestly play VF online the way I play if offline. From 2013 - 2020 I did not play online, and I did like Final Showdown's netcode on console but it felt different enough to me from offline play that I was worried it would pollute my offline play. In January of 2021 I began playing online again (via Parsec) because I watched some matches of Parsec battles and they looked a lot more similar to offline matches.

    • I had a wonderful time with these matches and I wish Juicebox an awesome time in SoCal!
     
  6. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    JUICEBOX (PAI) vs. CHANCHAI (LION) IV
    August 28th, 2021


    From Juicebox's Stream


    From Chanchai's Stream (marked at the start of the Battle)

    ABOUT JUICEBOX VS CHANCHAI IV
    At the end of summer, Juicebox and I had another series of tough sets!

    This time, with Juicebox's Pai which has been growing incredibly strong in one month following his trip to Los Angeles where he fought players such as Mechzdeus, Phoxxx, Montage, LA Akira, Cobratron, Adam Yuki, and Gentleman Thief!

    The battles were a blast even though it capped a very long day for both of us!

    On the Juicebox Stream, we do some tech discussion after the matches ^_^

    Enjoy!
     
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  7. Chanchai

    Chanchai Well-Known Member

    JUICEBOX (PAI) VS CHANCHAI (LION) V
    October 1st, 2021
    Match (Two Perspectives) & Review



    Juicebox's POV

    Last Friday, Juicebox and I had another big match and it was a lot of fun and I think it's fun to watch! We both also learned a lot too, and so I have a link for the Match Review Juicebox did on the following day too (and I chat with him in stream chat)!
    Enjoy!


    Chanchai's POV


    Match Review
     

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