Argh, I feel like bashing my head against a brick wall Is ST, SJK, PG, PG, m-DbPm possible on Pai, level ground? I can do it no problem with just one PG, but if I try for two PGs, the m-DbPm just doesn't want to hit. Actually, I'm quite sure it's possible because I landed ST, SJK, PG, PG, m-SgPm against Pai under the same conditions. Well anyways, some time ago, UK Guy made mention of a weird buffering technique for Akira which allowed for instant DbPms. I've noticed that this also applies after a Stun Palm. The timing for it is so damn weird/hard that I can't get it out consistently, but I have managed to get it out "accidently" a lot of times, which is really frustrating. Under training mode the command basically amounts to P+K+G -> d, b, f+P.. as far as I can tell at least. Has anyone been able to nail this one down? Also, I haven't been able to pull the stuff UK Guy mentioned requiring that magical buffering, the knee -> SJK, and ShRm -> SJK after the ST, which produced those sky high floats. Argh.. where's that brick wall? __ m y k e how ya gonna win when ya ain't right within?