Akira or Taka - Who is more broken!?

Hi all. I've been using Akira since vanilla and I don't think I can use other characters efficiently since I've developed my style around 1-2 moves (as in not used to strings/combos). I have a few subs (Kage, Shun and Lau and a little Jean Kujo) so considering switching to using Kage as my main but still need to get my head around his stances and BT options.

Anyway, moving back on topic, who is viewed as the more broken character? Akira or Taka? For me personally, it's Taka. While Akira is near the heavyweight class, a lot of combos still work on him but Taka just eats soo much rice! So thus he is a very heavy man. I struggle to get beyond 60+ damage on him and I think many are the same. Only real launcher I can use against him is Youhou since it gives me the option to heavy bound with after it but even then, distance has to be relatively close for the heavy bound to connect. Also, the amount of damage Taka can inflict is insane! The only thing Akira has over Taka is that Akira can heavy bound and then medium bound after it (e.g.: , , ) but other than that, Taka just hits so much harder.

So what does everyone think? Akira or Taka?

 

I swear, you give VFDC TOO many chances to shit on Akira.

 

Lol.

 

Taka at the lower level, Akira at the higher. Remember, Taka is slow... but Akira has some very quick moves, plus a way better guard break, and better counters/reversals if he gets stuck. He also has the low hitting move he can combo from, which is a pretty big deal in a game where you're mostly anticipating mid or high launchers.

For me, the game goes something like this, after one year of play on both consoles (bear in mind, I'm largely using a lightweight, low stamina character who doesn't deal that much high damage in general).

Jacky > Akira > Jean > Goh > Brad > Vanessa > Lion > Blaze > Aoi

After that, everyone else seems to fight each other quite equally, but of course, chars like Jeffry, Shun or even Sarah in the right situation can take huge dmg, as well as Taka. Fighting the Sumo guy, I think you need to be on point more than ever with those 4 or 6 throw escapes, because both his options are looking at around 80 against much of the cast. I think his circulars are pretty limited though, and all sorts of strings become natural combos on him, so... not as scary as some may think once you get to grips with how he operates

 

He doesn't appear to be able to spring up off the ground with a really fast move like Akira can, for starters. Once Yuki-san gets into his stride, big, powerful moves are reigning down on you with very little recovery, which again, doesn't really apply to the Tak-man. Jackira still totally running this game, who can deny it? Far better players than me have stated the same, more or less. If Taka is "broken", how come hardly anyone uses him, on PS3 or Xbox? Yet Akira is everywhere. Weak AK players, yeah, I can handle them, but a well played one? It's just lights out fast. Yet all this time, the only Taka I couldn't take out was Shidosha, who I only got to play a few times anyhow.

I don't quite get the comparison between the two really. If we're going for broke, let's look at low hitting sideturn moves, or fast, high damage strings you can barely evade. Whittling down whiff disadvantage with sabakis, or running unblockable staggers barely anyone online can deal with.
Oops, almost forgot counter hit body-check as well: why is that even still in the game? Just feeds right into the hands of people like 'Pepsolman' who sit there making the game look trash to the wider public, with their zany capture card japes.

 

There are no broken characters in VF (except Dural, of course), only characters we don't know how to deal with. If I have a problem with a certain character, it's not because that char is broken, but because the other player is skillful.

 

Taka's crouch dash is one frame slower than every other character's. That's how Taka is slow.

 

I dont think Taka is broken. The payoff can be good when using him but there are plenty of risk a player must take. Takas 17 frame launcher33p+k is -17 on block. Also his 2p+kp is -20 on block I think. And we all know he has good throws,but strikes or abare will thwart that. I think Taka being good really depends on the user,unlike others like jacky or lion who are kinda buff in VF. They still require lots of skill butTaka has to work harder and he is a yomi character.

 

LOL, I like this thread

 

Dude, how do you know what Pai-Chun is talking about? Having a slower jab and crouch dash by even one frame would be a factor in a high level match between two equal players. And there are no exceptions. His Jab is slower, he's slower. Just because Pai-Chun didn't articulate it well doesn't mean he was wrong. And a huge number of Taka's moves leave him at -15 or more if blocked. Just doing a brief scan of his movelist, I've seen 26 moves that leave him at at least -10, as high as -20 (2P+K,P). So in that sense he is slower than Akira because his recovery times on block are slower.

I dont take this topic too seriously, as no character is broken in this game, unless you look at the hitboxes. Taka has a lot of launchers that reach far beyond his hands, making him more "broken" . But that's the elephant in the room nobody is allowed to talk about, apparently. Because FS is awesome and Sega is perfect and they never make mistakes. Tracking strings are awesome and totally logical and realistic. /Sarcasm (even though I'm laying it on a little thick).

If you look at the two characters Akira has more tools. If you want to call him overpowered, fine, I guess but he's not broken. Taka not being able to be juggled for long by most combos is just realism, look how fat he is. Therefore I can't really call Taka "broken". Except for those hit-boxes......

 

It's Ironic though as I think Taka vs Akira favours Taka...
The sheer damage output overshadows Akira...

Anyway Akira players can't complain. I would love to see the stats of Akira's SDE hitting percentage.. The most reliable move in the game. Want to Backdash? Urggh Want to push a button? Urgghh... Want to delay a move Uggghh Want to do a move that specifically beats elbows... Ugghgh

Oh snap I'm near a wall GG's... I'm at the edge GG''s... Any Stage GG's...

I'm fully aware I play Goh by the way...

 

The thread should be renamed to, "fs, college project or legit production?"

 

I've only fought one Taka online and that was Modelah. Sure enough he kick the crap out of me.

Akira makes me nervous though...

 

I had the same idea as you before, but once I realized what AK is capable of then I believe they are pretty 50/50 during the match. Probably AK has better options.

 

Just out of interest, what do you think Jean does that breaks the game?