Okay....really, most of the combos are easy to pull off...an yes I also hate the Tekken style in VF ..VF2 although nothing fancy... still remains the most real of all.....but VF4 is still is the best game out there. Has anyone worked on Akira's fake grasping mind-reverse bodycheck throw (f,b+P+Gd | u+P+K)???? I love the move by the way....it's easy...however...I've noticed that it's also done just by doing b+P+Gd | u+P+K)!!! Lemme' know if you can pull it off the same way.... ....CreeD...you da' man tha'z supposed to know...hints???!!