Akira's knee in VF4, 3 and 2.

I don't think anyone uses circular attack to describe much of anything these days, it's sort of a given that some moves are easily dodged and others are not..
Anyway, to answer a question like 6 post ago

akira's b,f+P+K is a good anti-dodge move that's rarely evaded.
His frigging double palm never misses my dodges for no apparent reason. It's about as circular as Voltron's nipple.

 

In the trial mode for the ps2, they actually teach you to attack the opponent when they get up and don't do rising kicks. If you get up without doing rising kicks and hold on to guard, there is a short freeze time where you can't dodge or guard. The problem is its so short its damn difficult to master the timing. that's why i always do knee on rising opponents.

 

In ver.B some character's low kick can only be dodged in one direction and I don't think a low kick resembles any form of circular moves

Look more closely at the attack animation. Many characters swing there leg around to one side when they do their low kick. This is why dodging to the back side works better.

 

But wouldn't it still be useful to not if a move is circular or not?
I haven't been playing VF4 too much (my Jap. VF4 game is lying on my desk waiting for my PS2 to arrive), but in VF3 there were big differences with circular vs noncircular attacks when reversing. IIRC most characters with reversals could not reverse circular attacks like Lau's g+k. In the case of Aoi, if you attempted to reverse circular attack, you'd get an inashi instead of a reversal...

 

(Yupa) Yes. i agree wif your observation. In dodging an attack, you dun need to recall watever doctrine. By basic observation e.g. low kick is an attack that begins from the rear leg. So its only basic common sense that you dodge towards the front leg.

Low kick is not a circular (semi-circular) attack.
Arghhh, hack it!

 

Isnt it funny how this post on knee bcomes low kick?

 

Hi,

Akira's knee sounds hard on the movelist, but its actually pretty easy to do.

All you have to do is hit K and G together and let got of G but don't let go of K. That's it. If you let go of K at anytime before the K comes out, you will get a normal standing Kick instead.

The easiest to do this, is to use your middle finger on the K and Thumb on G. What you do is hit the respective button simultaneously, but scrape your thumb on G button, while still holding, can't stress enough holding the K button.

Also make sure that scraping motion is not too fast, that it doesn't register. The timing is quite forgiving as long as you hold on to K. And K and G is registered simultaneouly.

 

actually,

When I said circular, I just meant moves that cannot be evaded, not necessary must travel in a circular motion. Example, Lei's f,f+k+g cannot be evade although it looks pretty linear. Also Ver B lei's d+p+k is also "circular"

 

Re: Attack paths

Or how about this, you just include a column called "Evade direction"(or something) and under it you put either "Front", "Back", "X" (for cannot be evaded) "O" for can be evaded both way.
The circular terminology is giving a lot of headaches. /versus/images/icons/smile.gif

 

it's useful to know whether a move is circular or not, but inventing special terms for it and then carefully writing down every single move's "dodge-ability" is a pain in the ass and a waste of time. You can tell from the animation almost every single time whether or not a move is easily dodged (or just by playing for a while). A few, like Akira's dbpm (maybe it's just me) go against common sense. But you'd -expect- d+K+G to hit dodgers.

 

Re: Attack paths

I think that every linear attack in Vf4 can be dodged in both directions, so now its only trying to figure out where to dodge the other non-linear attacks. which I believe could be done by experimenting and creating a chart as you go a long /versus/images/icons/smile.gif ..