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Discussion in 'General' started by Myke, Sep 14, 2001.

  1. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    I've copied this post with the permission of the author (who wishes to remain anonymous) because I feel some of it may benefit those who, like me, didn't really understand how or why the recent attack in the US transpired. This is not an effort to excuse what happened, but hopefully explain why it could, and possibly did.

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    Ok, this really is the last word from me, and this time I mean it.

    IMO the kind of history lessons that pass for "education"
    in our schools leaves a lot to be desired. It's hard for me
    to know where to begin at times, and for the average hoe-dee-doe
    citizen here, there often isn't even a blip on the radar that
    something might be amiss with how people in the US are taught
    to understand the world around us.

    I don't have the time, energy or inclination to try and undo such
    a process here, but here are some suggestions of alternate news
    (as well as interpretations of said news) sources for anybody
    interested:

    http://www.indymedia.org.il
    - yes, in Israel, but better that interested people go and visit instead
    of me trying to explain.

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.theworldnews.com.au/>http://www.theworldnews.com.au/</A>
    - for so-called "straight" news using western world journalistic
    standards, but without all of the repetitious emoting and reprising
    that characterizes major news syndicates in the US, and more recently
    the BBC as well. Suffice to say, I disagree with the way the whole
    "personal tragedy" angle is wrought and over-wrought in our media
    24 hours a day. There are other more effective and dignified ways
    to take care of our hurt and our dead than with such an incredibly
    cynical display.

    And for anyone interested in possible books, give this one a try:

    "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn

    Seriously, set aside all the CNN, ABC, school text books and
    whathaveyou, just for a few minutes. You can always pick them
    up again later if the info above is truly that unpalatable.

    I don't know about the rest of you, but frankly, I'm scared. There
    are helicopters circling over my apartment building here in Seattle,
    shining their spotlights every which way. This does not make me feel
    safe.

    No amount of fancy technology or violent escalation committed by the
    US government will be of any protection to either a citizen's rights
    here, or to our safety, or to a peaceful future. We can bring all of
    our Star Wars and destroyers and aircraft and napalm to bear down
    with all the righteousness of America and God that we want, but the
    only thing that's going to lead to is more and more "creative" and
    "well-coordinated" violence against people unable to defend themselves,
    no matter which country they're from.
     
    Myke, Sep 14, 2001
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  2. feixaq

    feixaq Well-Known Member

    I've been listening to National Public Radio on KQED (88.5 in San Francisco), much better commentaries and analyses than the stuff CNN/CBS/ABC/FOX comes out with. You can also stream the audio from <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.kqed.org>http://www.kqed.org</A>


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    feixaq, Sep 14, 2001
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  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Guest, Sep 14, 2001
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  4. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    I bet the people in power in the usa are really really happy about this as it gives them a exscuse ti take away more peoples rights and act how they want abroad.

    'Hah whats next attack of the drunken cats' Wong Fei Hong from Drunken Master
     
    Drunken_Master, Sep 19, 2001
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  5. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Do we have an alternative suspect besides bin Laden? It seems like we're putting all of our eggs into this basket-case, and that we've already convicted him of the crime.
     
    ice-9, Sep 21, 2001
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  6. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    Drunken_Master, Sep 21, 2001
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  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr010919_1_n.shtml>http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr010919_1_n.shtml</A>

    It's possible that the pressure against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban is just a feint for a strike against Iraq.
     
    Guest, Sep 21, 2001
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  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/TotW/hitchens_wtc.html>http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/TotW/hitchens_wtc.html</A>

    Hopefully this short but sweet bit may be something the "Chomsky-Zinn-Finkelstein masochists" and their young leech spoiled left-wing liberal college students followers can try to digest - perhaps putting a few grams on the opposite arm of their balances, which in their arrogant blindness is so far tilted to the left it might as well have broken off.
     
    Guest, Sep 24, 2001
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  9. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    so your a right winger then eh? left wingers are not arrogant they just chose not to be blind

    'Hah whats next attack of the drunken cats' Wong Fei Hong from Drunken Master
     
    Drunken_Master, Sep 25, 2001
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  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Your username is the most fitting one on this entire board. You undermine if not entirely contradict yourself as well as your defense of "left-wingers" with your knee-jerk response. Try reading the post and article again, you fucking reactionary tit. Although considering you, and your ability with English, I doubt you'll ever fully comprehend the article, or much else.
     
    Guest, Sep 25, 2001
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  11. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    boy you got out of bed the wrong way today. i dont debate with people taht swear at me. I find most right winger resort to swear and insults becuase they know they are wrong

    'Hah whats next attack of the drunken cats' Wong Fei Hong from Drunken Master
     
    Drunken_Master, Sep 26, 2001
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  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Guest, Sep 26, 2001
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  13. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    No, Ben Ladin is just the tip of the ice-berg...the fight will go on long after the U.S had blown him away or locked him up.

    "Victory can be anticipated, but not assured" Sun-Tzu
     
    Shadowdean, Sep 27, 2001
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  14. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    in waht do you mean tip of iceberg? in the fact hee is only one of the few the usa backed and armed in the 80s?

    'Hah whats next attack of the drunken cats' Wong Fei Hong from Drunken Master
     
    Drunken_Master, Sep 27, 2001
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  15. Yupa

    Yupa Well-Known Member

    Re: tip of the iceburg

    Attacking bin Laden and his camps will only create yet another generation of fanatics who despise the USA and are willing to blow themselves up for their cause. He welcomes the chance to become a martyr. He has said so in interviews from a few years ago.

    That being said, to appease the masses here in America, some form of military retaliation is necessary...
     
    Yupa, Sep 30, 2001
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  16. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Oh hey, welcome back man! Not sure if you remember me, but I went by Jeff-Maru and I believe we met once in Boston. What's up?
     
    ice-9, Sep 30, 2001
    #16

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