Aoi ramblings...

Thanks for the help.

Are there any guaranteed followups to a successful b+G+P+K stance parry? I noticed that the opponent is shifted in a different directiion depending on his/her initial attack. Is there any followup that works 100% or do you just continue with guessing games?

Thanks again.

Peace,
Bronze

 

Usually, I just stick with the f+K,K. If you're gutsy and you think they'll do a TT attack from an inashi that put you at their back, you can try to nail a f,f+P for a back crumble, but that's pretty risky, because if they don't, they can block and throw you.

 

"I like to open with a crumble attack/throw with Aoi

its nice to do it...but it's not too difficult to multi-throw escape her 2 low throws....while comboing afterward is a gurantee hit!

 

If u haven't noticed... there is a AI bug making the computer never escape low throws after crumble(not sure doing low throw without crumble).

 

Yes, the AI will not break any low throw at all regardless if it's a crumble or not.

 

Well one of the reasons why I put the ground throw in the combos I listed was because it was counted as a guaranteed hit. In each of those she looks like she practically takes them out of the air after the last hit in the combo. Same as b,b+p+k, ground throw or f+k+g~p, ground throw she gets guaranteed hits for doing the ground throw after those. I'm sure there are more but you will notice she can't do the ground throw immediately after some stuff and she can for others like the ones I just stated.

 

Yep, the double stop definately is one of her best moves.
After it, you can do knee, jumping kick, arm lock and break, ground chop, (f+k,k, d/f+g+p, d/f+p). Together it takes of about 95 points of damage or so. If you want to be really annoying you can even tag a high pounce on it afterwards if you think your opponent will try to do a rising attack for an additional 37 damage on MC. 132 points of damage; not bad for a "weak" character, don't you think? ;-)
Not sure if the ground chop in the end is guaranteed, but the AI certainly never struggles out of it, not even the top players (the ones with 9990-10 records).

 

Umm, I don't think you can do multiple low-throw escapes.

 

Yeah, but the training mode will count a number of things as guaranteed hits for different characters, but it isn't so for those crumple situations.

 

Whoops sorry about that then.
Now where the heck did I rea this here on VFDC...?

 

After it, you can do knee, jumping kick, arm lock and break, ground chop, (f+k,k, d/f+g+p, d/f+p). Together it takes of about 95 points of damage or so. If you want to be really annoying you can even tag a high pounce on it afterwards if you think your opponent will try to do a rising attack for an additional 37 damage on MC. 132 points of damage; not bad for a "weak" character, don't you think?

If you get away with doing that much damage to your opponent, that person would have to be clueless about the game. After the double stop-> f+K, K, the opponent can techroll or quick rise, which voids all of the other options you listed after Aoi's f+K, K.

I'm not flaming you, just trying to make a correction.

 

Seems as if the computer is clueless. /versus/images/icons/wink.gif
Even the top Kumite opponents (9990-10 named after known Japanese players like Bun Bun Maru and Muscle Sarah) don't techroll in that situation.

 

When you play human opponents that do, start looking to back stagger with a sidekick if they tech roll.

 

Even the top Kumite opponents (9990-10 named after known Japanese players like Bun Bun Maru and Muscle Sarah) don't techroll in that situation.

I think that would only apply to the CPU opponents. If you've seen any clips of Aoi in high level play, you would notice that the opponent almost never stays on the ground after the f+K, K. Which could lead to the nice back stagger situation Ice-9 described. In the one or two times the opponent does decide to stay down, Aoi could land either a f+K on the bounce or a ground throw and ground hit.

 

This is probably just my suckiness, but I'm having a hard time timing the sidekick to get that back stagger from a tech roll after f+K,K.

 

That's weird - the Arcade CPU seems to be a lot less clueless in that situation, then. After doing a b,df+P and f+K,K, the CPU techrolls more often than not.

 

hehe heres a question i wanna raise.

so wat followups are there after u managed to can a back-stagger?it seems tat the options are pretty limited.and due to the fact tat Aoi deals so little damage, wats the most damaging combo u can land after u managed to back-stagger yr opponent?

to hadaka: yeap the computer TRs very often after the f+kk followup.so u might wanna train yr sidekick timing wif tat =)

 

the most damaging combo after a back stagger is,

b,d/f+p--f+k,k--d/f+k--f+k--F+k,k--d/f+p+g--d/f+p
(about 80%, against light weight, reverse stance)

b,d/f+p--f+k,k--d/f+k--f+k(or f,f+p+k)--d/f+p+k--d/f+p+g--d/f+p(about 70%, any char, both stance)

but nothing is guaranteed to hit after a back stagger, the opponents can recover and block.

 

Duh, just noticed today, the CPU does sometimes techroll the f+k,k. Sorry!