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Aoi VF5FS Moves and Strategies Discussion

Discussion in 'Aoi' started by Tiripsem, Jan 8, 2012.

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  1. Tiripsem

    Tiripsem Well-Known Member

    Alright this thread has been dead for too long [​IMG]. I've been working on a complete english movelist for Aoi (Final Showdown) for the past week and I was finally able to translate it. You'd be surprised how much you can learn (language and frame wise) from it. Anyway, thanks to Kingo for finding the site that has the list. And thanks to Sebo who sent me the master guide pics on Aoi. If there are any mistakes or questions, please point it out, it is definitely not perfect. Hopefully this will help people with making some good strategies [​IMG]

    Aoi's VF5FS Movelist (Japanese): http://www37.atwiki.jp/vfmad/pages/243.html

    *Also, to who ever is going to make the Aoi movelist (FS) for this site, feel free to use this as reference if you'd like*

    ____[P] Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Frames / Guard / Hit / Counter / Evade / Notes
    [P] / High / 12 / 10 / +2 / +5 / +8 / B,F

    [P][P] / High / 9 / 10 / -7 / -3 / -1 / B,F

    [P][P][P] / High / 13 / 10 / -9 / -8 / -5 / B,F

    [P][P][P][K] / Special Mid / 20 / 19 / -13 / Down / Down / B,F / [P]+[K]+[G] into Tenchi

    [P][P][P][2][K] / Low / 20 / 19 / -18 / Down / Down / .,. / [P]+[K]+[G] into Tenchi, [G] Cancel

    [P][P][6][P] / Mid / 16 / 19 / -6 / -5 / -3 / B,. / [G] Cancel

    [P][P][6][P][P] / Mid / 18 / 20 / -13 / Down / Down / B,. / [G] Cancel, -1 Drink

    [P][P]([2] or [8])[P] / High / 16 / 23 / -4 / -2 / +4 / * / Evade depends on direction, [G] Cancel (Back turn recovery when canceled)

    [P][P]([2] or [8])[P][4] / High / - / - / - / - / - / - / Recovers back turned

    [P][P]([2] or [8])[P][P] / Mid / 21 / 23 / -13 / -1 / +6 / B,F / [G] Cancel

    [P][P][K] / High / 20 / 16 / -9 / Down / Down / B,.

    [P][K] / High / 18 / 14 / -4 / +4 / Down / B,F

    [6_][P] / High / 10 / 12 / +2 / +5 / +8 / B,F / Advancing

    [6][P] / Mid / 16 / 14 / -4 / 0 / +7 / B,F

    [6][P][P] / High / 15 / 19 / -5 / -1 / +6 / .,F / [G] Cancel

    [6][6][P] / Mid / 21 / 25 / -6 / +6 / +9 / .,F / [G] Cancel

    [6][4][P] / Mid / 21 / 25 / -7 / +6 / Down / B,F / LP Sabaki, -1 Drink

    [6][4][P] / Catch Throw / 40 / - / - / - / - / - / Initiates when [2][P] is caught, -1 Drink

    [4][P] / High / 19 / 17 / -2 / +2 / +4 / .,. / [P]+[K]+[G] into Tenchi, Recovers back turned

    [4][P][K] / Mid / 15 / 16 / -6 / -1 / +5 / B,F / [G] Cancel, Counter Hit causes stagger

    [4][6][P] / Mid / 10 / 17 / +8 / +12 / 16 / B,F / First of two hits

    [4][6][P] / Mid / 15 / 6 / -6 / +2 / +4 / B,F / Last of two hits

    [4][6][P] -> [P]+[G] / Catch Throw / 30 / - / - / - / - / - / -1 Drink

    [4][4][P] / High / 14 / 16 / -2 / 0 / +5 / B,F / Recovers back turned

    [4][3][P] / Mid / 16 / 13 / -4 / 0 / Stgr / B,F / Evasive properties vs Highs and some Mids

    [2][P] / Ex Low / 9 / 12 / -5 / +4 / +7 / B,F

    [​IMG][3][P] / Mid / 18 / 16 / -13 / -2 / +2 / B,F / Evasive properties vs Highs and some Mids

    [​IMG][3][P] -> [P]+[G] / Catch Throw / 35 / - / - / - / - / - /

    [3][P] / Mid / 15 / 15 / -2 / +4 / +8 / B,F

    [1][P] / Low / 16 / 23 / -9 / -2 / Down / .,F / Evasive properties vs Highs

    ____[K] Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Frames / Guard / Hit / Counter / Evade / Notes
    [K] / High / 18 / 14 / -4 / -2 / +2 / B,.

    [K][P] / High / 10 / 15 / -4 / +2 / +5 / B,F

    [K][P][K] / Mid / 19 / 19 / -9 / -1 / Down / B,F / [G] Cancel

    [K][K] / Mid / 20 / 20 / -6 / +3 / +8 / B,F

    [6][K] / Mid / 20 / 18 / -8 / -2 / Down / B,F / [P]+[K]+[G] into Tenchi

    [6][K][P] / Mid / 15 / 20 / -10 / +5 / Down / B,F / -1 Drink

    [6][K][K] / High / 20 / 13 / -16 / Down / Down / B,F

    [6][6][K] / Mid / 20 / 18 / -13 / Down / Down / B,F

    [4][K] / Special High / 17 / 16 / -4 / Stgr / Stgr / B,.

    [2][K] / Low / 16 / 16 / -14 / -4 / -2 / B,F

    [2][K][P] / High / 10 / 15 / -6 / -1 / +3 / B,F

    [2][K][P][P] / Mid / 18 / 21 / -9 / -3 / Down / B,F / [G] Cancel, -1 Drink

    ([​IMG] or [1])[K] / Low / 10 / 14 / -15 / -6 / -2 / B,F

    [3][K] / Mid / 21 / 17 / -6 / 0 / +8 / +2 / B,F

    ____[P]+[K] Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Frames / Guard / Hit / Counter / Evade / Notes
    [P]+[K] / Mid / 20 / 21 / -3 / +4 / Down / B,F / Causes bound in combo, -1 Drink

    [6][P]+[K] / High / 12 / 13 / -1 / +3 / +6 / B,.

    [6][P]+[K][P] / Mid / 18 / 21 / -10 / Down / Down / B,. / [G] Cancel, -1 Drink

    [6][6][P]+[K] / Mid / 21 / 18 / -6 / -1 / Down / B,F

    [6][6][P]+[K][P] / High / 20 / 20 / -9 / Down / Down / B,F / -1 Drink

    [6][4][P]+[K] / Mid / 15 / 15 / -6 / -2 / +4 / B,F

    [6][4][P]+[K][P] / Mid / 20 / 18 / -15 / Down / Down / B,F / [G] Cancel

    [4][6][P]+[K] / Mid / 20 / 23 / -6 / Down / Down / B,F

    [4][4][P]+[K] / High / 20 / 19 / -13 / Down / Down / B,F / [G] Cancel, -1 Drink

    [4][3][P]+[K] / Mid / 16 / 16 / -7 / +1 / Down / B,F

    [​IMG][3][P]+[K] / Mid / 16 / 15 / -5 / +3 / Stgr / B,F

    [​IMG][3][P]+[K][P] / High / 10 / 21 / -6 / -1 / Down / B,F / -1 Drink, [G] Cancel

    [2][3][6][P]+[K] / Mid / 21 / 22 / -7 / -2 / +1 / B,F / HP, HE, MP, EL Sabaki

    [2][3][6][P]+[K] / Sabaki / 21 / 14 / - / Down / Down / - / Initiates after HP, HE, MP, EL is caught

    ([3] or [9]) [P]+[K] / High / 16 / 23 / -4 / -1 / +4 / * / Evade depends on direction, [G] Cancel (Back turned if cancelled)

    ([3] or [9]) [P]+[K][4] / High / - / - / - / - / - / * / Evade depends on direction, recovers back turned

    ([3] or [9]) [P]+[K][P] / Mid / 21 / 23 / -13 / -1 / +6 / B,F / [G] Cancel

    [3][3][P]+[K] / Mid / 23 / 18 / -13 / Down / Down / B,F / [G] cancel, [P]+[K]+[G] into Tenchi

    ____[K]+[G] Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Frames / Guard / Hit / Counter / Evade / Notes
    [K]+[G] / High / 22 / 25 / -2 / +6 / +9 / .,. / -1 Drink

    [6][K]+[G] / Mid / 20 / 23 / -8 / Down / Down / B,F / -1 Drink

    [4][K]+[G] / Mid / 20 / 22 / -6 / Down / Down / B,F / SK, HK, MK, KN Sabaki

    [4][K]+[G] / Sabaki / 20 / 14 / - / Down / Down / - / Initiates after SK, HK, MK, KN is caught

    [2][K]+[G] / Low / 20 / 20 / -18 / -6 / Down / .,. / [G] Cancel

    [3][K]+[G] / Mid / 25 / 16 / -7 / Down / Down / B,F

    ____[P]+[K]+[G] Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Frames / Guard / Hit / Counter / Evade / Notes
    [P]+[K]+[G] / Tenchi / Parries all Highs and Mids that are not double limbed or full circular attacks.

    [P]+[K]+[G][6][P] / Mid / 20 / 16 / -8 / Down / Down / B,F / -1 Drink

    [P]+[K]+[G][6][K] / Low / 21 / 18 / -15 / +4 / Down / B,F

    [P]+[K]+[G][4] / Back Turn

    [P]+[K]+[G][4][P] / High / 20 / 26 / +15 / Down / Down / B,F / Breaks guard / -1 Drink

    [P]+[K]+[G][4][K] / Mid / 23 / 26 / -7 / Down / Down / B,F

    [P]+[K]+[G][4][K]+[G] / Low / 24 / 28 / -16 / Down / Down / .,. / -1 Drink

    [P]+[K]+[G]([2] or [8]) / Tenchi Evade

    [P]+[K]+[G]([2] or [8]) [P] / Mid / 20 / 20 / -9 / -1 / Down / .,.

    ____After [G] Cancel Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Frames / Guard / Hit / Counter / Evade / Notes
    ([G] Cancel)[P] / High / 15 / 15 / -2 / -1 / +4 / B,F

    ([G] Cancel)[P] / Catch Throw / 30 / - / - / - / - / - / -1 Drink

    ([G] Cancel)[K] / Mid / 21 / 15 / -4 / +4 / +8 / B,F

    ____Jump Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Frames / Guard / Hit / Counter / Evade / Notes
    [P] (Rising) / High / 10 / - / - / - / - / B,F

    [P] (Landing) / Mid / 20 / - / -5 / +11 / +11 / B,F / Causes crouch on hit

    [K] (Rising) / High / 25 / - / - / - / - / B,F

    [K] (Landing) / Low / 21 / - / -15 / +4 / Down / B,F

    ____Back Turned Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Frames / Guard / Hit / Counter / Evade / Notes
    [P] / High / 10 / 12 / 0 / +5 / +8 / B,F

    [2][P] / Low / 14 / 11 / -4 / +2 / +5 / B,F

    [K] / High / 20 / 13 / -6 / Down / Down / B,F

    [2][K] / Low / 16 / 14 / -14 / -4 / -2 / B,F / Can continue with [P][P](Can [G] cancel last [P])

    [​IMG][K] / Low / 12 / 21 / -14 / -6 / 0 / B,F

    [P]+[K] / Mid / 16 / 16 / -7 / -3 / +1 / B,F

    [P]+[K][P] / High / 10 / 16 / -6 / -4 / 0 / B,.

    [P]+[K][P][P] / Special High / 20 / 19 / +3 / +6 / Down / B,F / -1 Drink, [G] Cancel

    [P]+[K][P][4][P] / Mid / 18 / 22 / -6 / -2 / +4 / B,F

    [P]+[K][P][4][P][P] / Mid / 20 / 18 / -13 / Down / Down / B,F / [G] Cancel

    [2][K]+[G] / Low / 20 / 22 / -16 / -4 / Down / .,. / [G] Cancel

    ([2] or [8])[P]+[K]+[G] / Evade

    ([2] or [8])[P]+[K]+[G][P] / Mid / 19 / 21 / -8 / +1 / Down / .,.

    [P]+[G] / Throw / 20 / 14 / - / - / - / .,. / +11 frame advantage when successful

    ____Down Attack Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Frames / Guard / Hit / Counter / Evade / Notes
    [3][P] / Down Attack / 10 / 19 / - / - / - / B,F

    [8][P] / Down Attack / 20 / - / -17 / Down / Down / B,F

    ([2] or [3])[P]+[G] / Ground Throw / 26 / 17 / - / - / - /

    ____Throw Commands____
    Command/ Level / Damage / Notes
    [P]+[G] / Throw / 40 Dmg

    [6][P]+[G]([4] or [2] or [8]) / Throw / 0 Dmg/ 10 second stagger against wall

    [6][4][P]+[G] / Throw / 55 Dmg

    [6][3][2][1][4][P]+[G] / Throw / 30 Dmg

    [4][1][2][3][6]P:+[G] / Throw / 20 Dmg

    (During Chougarami or Wakigarami)[6][2] or [4][2][P]+[G] / Throw Combo / 20 Dmg

    (During Chougarami or Wakigarami)[6][8] or [4][8][P]+[G] / Throw Combo / 35 Dmg

    (During Yumi Gatame or Ito Maki)[2][8] or [8][2][P]+[G] / Throw Combo / 25 or 26 Dmg

    [4][P]+[G] / Throw / 50 Dmg

    [4][6][P]+[G] / Throw / 55 Dmg / -1 Drink

    [​IMG][6][P]+[G] / Throw / 42 Dmg

    [​IMG][4][P]+[G] / Throw / 45 Dmg

    ([2][6][8][4] or [8][6][2][4])[P]+[G] / Throw / 60 Dmg / -1 Drink

    ([2][4][8][6] or [8][4][2][6])[P]+[G] / Throw / 40 Dmg

    (During Tai Boku Taoshi)[4][1][2][3][6][K]+[G] / Throw Combo / 25 Dmg

    (Wall behind opponent)[4][6][P]+[G] / Wall Throw / 70 Dmg / -2 Drinks

    (Opponent's right side)[P]+[G] / Side Throw / 45 Dmg

    (Opponent's left side)[P]+[G] / Side Throw / 45 Dmg

    (Facing opponent's back)[P]+[G] / Back throw / 60 Dmg

    (Opponent is crouching)[2][P]+[G] / Low Throw / 55 Dmg

    (Opponent is crouching)[3][P]+[G] / Low Throw / 60 Dmg

    (Opponent is crouching)[1][P]+[G] / Low Throw / 60 Dmg

    (Opponent is crouching, facing their right side)[2][P]+[G] / Low Throw / 45 Dmg

    (Opponent is crouching, facing their left side)[2][P]+[G] / Low Throw / 45 Dmg

    (Opponent is crouching, facing their back)[2][P]+[G] / Low Throw / 60 Dmg

    ____Reversal Commands____

    *Reversal commands have not changed with the exception of reverse-able down attacks while Aoi is on her side facing up.*
     
    Tiripsem, Feb 22, 2012
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  2. kingo

    kingo My bitch G0d3L is a scrub Content Manager Aoi

    PSN:
    kingofvf5
    XBL:
    kingofvf4
    Good job !
    Although I'm pretty sure this one:
    jumping command: [K] (Landing) / Mid / 21 / - / -15 / +4 / Down / B,F
    is a low kick.( similar animation as her Tenchi, [6] [K])
     
    kingo, Feb 22, 2012
    #42
  3. Tiripsem

    Tiripsem Well-Known Member

    Fixed, thanks Kingo [​IMG]
     
    Tiripsem, Feb 22, 2012
    #43
  4. Mister

    Mister Well-Known Member Content Manager Wolf Content Manager Sarah Content Manager Aoi

    this is really cool.
    @TIripsem: are there other frames list in that website? tnx
     
    Mister, Feb 23, 2012
    #44
  5. Tiripsem

    Tiripsem Well-Known Member

    Only certain characters have it completed. Any specific character in mind?
     
    Tiripsem, Feb 23, 2012
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  6. Mister

    Mister Well-Known Member Content Manager Wolf Content Manager Sarah Content Manager Aoi

    Well, i play Wolf so that's my answer. So far how many are out? and how can i search them myself? tnx a lot
     
    Mister, Feb 24, 2012
    #46
  7. Tiripsem

    Tiripsem Well-Known Member

    Tiripsem, Feb 24, 2012
    #47
  8. Kruza

    Kruza Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    Kruza
    Tremendous job on translating Aoi's FS movelist, Tiripsem.

    Now if only there was a way to convert this info to some type of text format so it would be easier to align the columns. Ah well.

    Kruza
     
    Kruza, Feb 27, 2012
    #48
  9. Kruza

    Kruza Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    Kruza
    Well I have gotten around to creating a Google Docs Spreadsheet file for Aoi's FS movelist. Credit goes to Libertine's excellent starting template of the GDS file that I formed my spreadsheet file around and Tiripsem's translation of majority of the info from Aoi's FS move list at Virtua Wiki. I was also able to add some details I interpreted from that same Virtua Wiki move list plus borrowed info from Aoi's Version C move list from VFDC. And lastly I included some scant notes and details based on my own personal knowledge of the character.

    FS Aoi move list

    There are a few cells I chose to leave blank until I get the right type of information to fill in those spots. Plus there are corrections and confirmations I would like to make in some areas that I'm not 100% certain on (Active Frames stats, etc.). Nonetheless, any input and criticism on what I can change, add or subtract to improve on this spreadsheet file is welcome. I will continue to make updates on this file and fine tune anything that comes to mind.

    And this is to those who are not very familiar with using Google Docs spreadsheet files:

    Underneath the blue "Share" box in the upper right corner sometimes show a spot that reads "1 other viewer" (there could be more than one). If you see that phrase, click on it to open a chat box on the right side of your screen and call me out to find out if it's actually me. I don't mind chatting while fixing up this move list.

    Kruza
     
    Kruza, Mar 10, 2012
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  10. Kruza

    Kruza Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    Kruza
    A new sheet that lists Aoi's combos out of the her Virtua Wiki FS move list has now been added to the GDS file. Click on the "Combos List" sheet tab at the bottom of the screen in order to see it.

    Heh, keep in mind that this is an extreme work in progress at the moment. (Interpreting many of the words/codes that are listed in the "Enter Characters" column of the Virtua Wiki chart make me feel like Batman trying to decode some of The Riddler's shit. That's the reason why I put a question mark at the end of them.) But at least the input commands are accurate and intact now.

    If anyone can provide definitive answers to any of the numerous cells I left blank on this sheet, let me know and I'll fill them in with whatever you have.

    Kruza
     
    Kruza, Mar 14, 2012
    #50
  11. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    Akai_JC
    XBL:
    Akai JC
    Really looks nice - Kruza if you can PM your email address I can send you what I have.
     
    akai, Mar 14, 2012
    #51
  12. Tiripsem

    Tiripsem Well-Known Member

    Best of the best japanese Aoi players. Study at your leisure [​IMG]

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    Tiripsem, Apr 15, 2012
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  13. leftylizard

    leftylizard Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    blue mouthwash
    What is the most guaranteed damage you can get in the open floor after landing Aois back turned throw that gives 11 advantage? I can only come up with ppk.
     
    leftylizard, Nov 8, 2015
    #53
  14. Aoi in chinatown

    Aoi in chinatown Member

    PSN:
    Rawalpindiblues
    you want to use that as a set up, most damage i believe is actually ppk but if you do 3p they're sideturned and you're more then +6 and can set up a sudome cancel for a mixup
     
    Aoi in chinatown, Nov 8, 2015
    #54
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  15. Stl_Tim

    Stl_Tim Well-Known Member

    ppk is great, because it knocks down and sets up for otg/meaty.

    Otg:2kpp easiest and closest otg handed on a silver platter to her.

    Meaty:my fav: 6643p causes stagger or very low disadv on block.

    Then again I'm just a novice aoi.

    Note: set cpu on fastest stagger shake and see what you get, online is vastly different.
     
    Stl_Tim, Nov 8, 2015
    #55
  16. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    I thought that you could use [6][4][P][+][K][P].
     
    Libertine, Nov 8, 2015
    #56
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  17. Aoi in chinatown

    Aoi in chinatown Member

    PSN:
    Rawalpindiblues
    ppk does 5 points more damage
     
    Aoi in chinatown, Nov 8, 2015
    #57
  18. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    You can't crouch under it?
     
    Libertine, Nov 8, 2015
    #58
  19. Kruza

    Kruza Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    Kruza

    Basically what Libertine posted is guaranteed after pulling off Aoi's back-turned catch throw. The opponent can possibly duck under any follow-up high attacks from Aoi at this point, or do some kind of crouching low attack despite having their back at Aoi after the catch throw at -11.

    It's also possible to use [3][P] and base some setups off of that depending on the type of opponent you're playing against.

    Kruza
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2015
    Kruza, Nov 9, 2015
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  20. leftylizard

    leftylizard Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    blue mouthwash
    thanks everyone for the responses.
     
    leftylizard, Nov 9, 2015
    #60
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