arcade stick n00b

Discussion in 'Joysticks and Other Controllers' started by BLACKSTAR, May 21, 2009.

  1. BLACKSTAR

    BLACKSTAR You'll find him on the grind Staff Member Content Manager Sarah Media Manager

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    mods, excuse me if this is the wrong forum

    and once again excuse my n00bness, but I just got my SC4 edition HORI EX2 stick not to long ago in order to learn how to play in the arcades better in vf5 (next time i get a chance, that is). but doing so has completely sapped my already rusty game waaaay back into the stone age.

    don't laugh, but its really hard for me to play on the 2p side, my biggest problem being the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif direction. It's really annoying that I keep missing the input when I want to crouch dash or use sarahs Dragon Cannon attack. and its just more difficult in general to move around, I tend to miss my sidesteps as well

    I know most of this is just practice, but I wanted to see if any vets have any helpful suggestions.
     
  2. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    Sorry mate. My Experience is that the Hori EX2s are trash.

    I had trouble with diagonals on multiple EX2s. Thought it was me, but it was because the stick is actually less responsive in ALL directions than the normal 360 pad. The lack of a square gate makes diagonals even thougher.

    I only realised how bad it was when i got a good stick (SF4 TE). I'd recommend that you switch to a higher grade stick ASAP.
     
  3. BLACKSTAR

    BLACKSTAR You'll find him on the grind Staff Member Content Manager Sarah Media Manager

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    thanks alot man for your reply


    anything besides the super-pricy sf4te stick you recommend?
     
  4. CaliJared

    CaliJared Well-Known Member

    Just keep practicing. You are only having a hard time because you aren't used to it. I use an EX2 at home and VSHGs when I go to other peoples' houses and I can play VF just fine on either of them. Once you get used to putting in your inputs (which will probably take some time in training mode) you'll do just as good, if not better than on a pad. You will also find ETEG much easier to do on a stick.
     
  5. Ash_Kaiser

    Ash_Kaiser Marly you no good jabroni I make you humble... Bronze Supporter

    EX2s do have a square gate. I don't know if the Soul Calibur 4 version has one, but I know the VF one definitely has.
     
  6. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    I've tried 2 vanilla EX2s and a DOA one and none of them felt like they had a square gate. I could just be wrong, or the VF one could have been made a bit different. I'd like to know either way. Anyone had experience with different types of EX2s?
     
  7. Krye

    Krye French Star Player

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    They all have square gates. They're all technically the same, except for the artwork, or that's the official story, anyway. I never liked the SC4 style sticks, since the spring felt too loose for my taste.
     
  8. ShinobiFist

    ShinobiFist Well-Known Member

    I had the same problem as well when I bought a EX2 for VF5. Once I found out about swapping the square gate out, with a octagon one, everything went smooth from there. I was able to do my moves with no problem. There's no advantage on playing with a octagon gate or square, is just preference.
     
  9. BLACKSTAR

    BLACKSTAR You'll find him on the grind Staff Member Content Manager Sarah Media Manager

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    thanks alot guys for the responses

    While I still prefer my 360 pad (for now at least), I have to break away from it in order to be good in the arcades. I'd still love to get a te stick but its impossible right now since I can't even pay all my bills, and they'll probably be gone by the time I get the cash.

    I'll stick with my hori stick for now and just practice with it exclusively. I got used to the 360 pad, so I guess I'll do the same with this.

    my only beef with the ex2 stick, besides the diagonals (the stick does feel loose btw), is that sometimes my buttons register as an entirely different command than what I programmed it for. for example, my X button will function as a setting I'd have for RT. It's really wierd (my friend even pointed it out while he was using it), but luckily it only happens on rare occasions, and only on SC4 (not vf5 so far, thank goodness, since I only use 3 buttons for that).

    I can see that I'll probably have to switch to a better quality stick, but for starters, I'll just keep focusing on this
     
  10. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    Ah sorry for the late reply. cheapest way is probably to mod, but i suppose it's the most difficult as well. I'm rubbish at that sort of thing. You have any experience soldering? there are lots of guides available online if you do and you have the time.

    About the EX2's gate. I've just been playing with it to see how it feels again. I don't think it's octagonal anymore, but seems like the corners are pretty round. Think i'll open it up and have a look.
     
  11. MP

    MP Well-Known Member

    Can anyone recommend the HORI Real Arcade Pro EX?
     
  12. MAtteoJHDY

    MAtteoJHDY Well-Known Member

    I Can recommend the HRAP EX.

    It's very big and heavy at the beginning, but now I got used to it and it feels so natural. I like having so much room to rest my hands on! and since i sit on the floor with my back resting on the sofa, the stick sits nice and steady on my lap.

    The lever itself is a Sanwa JLF but not the one with the microswitches soldered directly to a board, so It's possible to swap the microswitches without buying a new JFL. That's handy because there is no common ground and it would be a pain otherwise.

    The original buttons are not Sanwa and I swapped them out immediately, so I cannot comment on those.

    The stick has a black metal panel that can get dusty and needs to be cleaned a lot.

    there are 8 buttons and I removed the far right 2 because they bother me. luckily there are nice hole plugs for that.

    one good thing about the stick is that it looks nice with every colour, I have red buttons, zeroex has blues, nik has pinks and they all look nice.
     
  13. MP

    MP Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info, just I was wondering if it was worth me getting one instead of another ex2, or an extremely pricey TE stick

    Funds are low and my buttons are failing on my current EX2.

    Although I feel comfortable with the size of it, maybe I should put a brick in it to make it heavier. I feel should get a new one but mod everything. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
  14. Feck

    Feck Well-Known Member Content Manager Akira

    How much can you get the HRAP for MP?

    I really liked the HRAP, my moves come out and everything... Unlike the EX2.

    HRAP probably is your best option if you can find one for an affordable price.
     
  15. MP

    MP Well-Known Member

    £140 on Amazon, although they don't get there's in til August.
    Nothing on ebay and play-asia has sold out.

    Hoping the price will come down once we get to august, i'm just going to have to keep my eye out for a good bargain /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
  16. gl0ry

    gl0ry Well-Known Member

    The SF4 Madcatz Tournament Edition sticks are my favorite out of any I've used.
     

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