Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itagaki)

Discussion in 'General' started by adamYUKI, Aug 31, 2001.

  1. adamYUKI

    adamYUKI Well-Known Member

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    Picked this up at gaming-age forum...

    Link to actual story: <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.gamespy.com/previews/...ndex3.shtm>http://www.gamespy.com/previews/...ndex3.shtm</A>

    "Tekken 4 is a piece of @#%$," says Itagaki, "one of the worst things about Tekken 4 is the concept planning. It's really half-ass. Tekken 4 attempts 3D environments, like I did in DOA 2, but they failed miserably.
    They should've stayed in a 2D world. To be quite honest, I don't think they have the technique to go to 3D from 2D." What about the graphics? "Graphics look very cheap," continues Itagaki, "the people who made the platform (Tekken) will be angry as to the end result of Tekken 4." And the gameplay? "The gameplay is very slow -- very incomplete feeling while playing. The game balance is also way off." He concludes his Tekken 4 talk by saying, "I really hope when they start to work on the home console version of Tekken 4, they will fix these problems and make a better game. With the game in its present state, right now I don't see them as my competition.
    What about Virtua Fighter 4? "I have to be careful how I say this," explains Itagaki, "VF4 is a very well-made game. The biggest problem is that it's old. They only were partially able to catch up with what DOA 2 was doing." One area that DOA 2 and DOA 3 have over the competition is the size of the arenas; Itagaki was quick to point out VF4's shortcomings in this area. "Even though the fighting worlds are good looking, they're very tight and constricting. DOA 3 has multi-leveled terrain that is more realistic -- where players have to adapt to different situations." Itagaki's final thought on VF4, "From a developer's point of view, VF4 was a bit of a disappointment, from a gamer's point of view, it's just a fun game to play."


    Damn...this guy is hardcore (if in fact those words are actually his). He knows not to say shit about vf gameplay cause it was Suzuki that gave him algorithms for DOA...


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  2. AlexMD

    AlexMD Well-Known Member Content Manager Lei

    Thanks Adam /versus/images/icons/smile.gif

    Wow, I thought his comments in the IGN interview were
    insane but this is unbelievable.

    I was happy to see Namco's Tekken team being very humble towards VF in the interview from Edge issue 100, I would have thought Itagaki could show the same curtesy especially if he's friends with Suzuki as I've heard.

    I couldn't get the link to work btw but here's where I found it
    http://www.gamespy.com/previews/august01/doa3/ (yeah alright it's not a link, cut and paste lazy bums /versus/images/icons/laugh.gif

    I'm gonna take the picture from this interview and put it on my dart board, man he looks like a villain with those sunnies and that pissed off expression, he looks like someone just slapped him in the face (which is probably true)
     
  3. SummAh

    SummAh Well-Known Member

    For some reasons..I think he's playing down the strength of the T4 n VF4 because
    A) both franchise are more popular than DOA
    B) both home conversions have sold more than DOA
    C) maybe he's worried VF4 n T4 on the PS2 will sell more than DOA3 on X-box

    But anyway...he can say what he want...after all ..it's his baby....

    I think consumers always win over manufacturers,...We vote with our wallets...and Both T4 n VF4 have always won in this area...and this hurts Tecmo the most~

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  4. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Actually, I do think the home conversion of DOA2 sold better than VF3tb overall; even just DOA2 on the DC.

    But man, this guy is DAMN ARROGANT. I wish I had screamed "VF is #1!!" louder at E3 while they previewed DOA3.
     
  5. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Hehehehh...

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  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I interviewed Itagaki while at the past E3 but I don't have time at the moment to go indepth with what he told me. I can say that I'm disappointed with DOA3 aka DOA2 HARDCORE RIP YOU OFF EDITION thus far though.

    Team Fanatics
    Shou-sama
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    can you please expand on (give as much info as you know, and where you got it) this "He knows not to say shit about vf gameplay cause it was Suzuki that gave him algorithms for DOA..."
    suzuki gave him algorithms for DOA?

    thank you
     
  8. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    I don't respond well to anonymous users, but for the others, I heard it from Neogamer waaay back who read it in some Japanese mag. Don't know how others heard of it.
     
  9. Marginal

    Marginal Well-Known Member

    Suzuki supplied the collision detection routines for DOA2. Apparently the genius developer God wasn't able to get the attacks etc to line up properly on his own.
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itag

    You'll have a hard time ignoring anonymous guys who mailbomb you with BSOD scripts that hose your PC for all eternity. That may change your misconception that anonymous posters have nothing that would interest you. Did you know that with a simple IP address I can track which ISP you're using and which server you're connected to? From there I can kife your login, and with a little bullshit I can have your address in one phone call. That's a lot of trouble though. A virus would be safer and faster.

    You arrogant spoiled piece of shit.

    Thanks for your time!

    Jimbo.
     
  11. Sudden_Death

    Sudden_Death Well-Known Member

    Re: Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itag

    hmm, this sounds like someone from thel old blast city. LOL

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  12. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    but he is right i mean how many big tits does tekken have compares to DOA2 and its great how the gameplay isnt really changed all that much by the backgrounds in DOA2 my how advanced

    'Strong body but a weak mind' Sam Seed from Drunken Masters
     
  13. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Re: Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itag

    Yeah, just like I'll have a hard time ignoring people on the street who may take out a knife and gut me in the stomach, tear out my throat, and spit on my guts for no apparent reason other than that they don't like my being Chinese. Or some poor abused kid with a shotgun on a rampage in school who I had the bad luck of crossing.

    What the fuck is your point?

    My point is that I don't feel obligated at all to say any damn thing, and especially not from anonymous users demanding information. It's rude, it's disrespectful and its fucking arrogant.
     
  14. CreeD

    CreeD Well-Known Member

    Re: Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itag

    I just jumped into this thread (and the general board) and I'm kinda disgusted with both of you. The guy going on about trashing your computer was an ass, but then again, you were a complete snotball to a perfectly polite poster who LITERALLY said please and thank you and merely asked you to expand on a quoted section. He didn't even imply anything critical! How the fuck is that arrogant and rude?
    Anyway. In the time it took you to be a snot about his anonymity you could have written something worth reading.
    Or could you?
    We'll probably never know.


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  15. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Re: Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itag

    God Creed, still as fucking judgemental as ever. A leopard never changes its spots.

    First, It took me 5 seconds to write that "snobbish" reply, and I doubt I could write anything worth reading for you in that 5 seconds.

    Second, requesting information and not leaving a name IS rude and disrespectful. Or at least, that's the way I was brought up. Don't know about you.

    Third, I tossed in my source for the Itagaki algorithm comment, which others in the community may have been interested to know. Note that I had no need to, since the poster was actually asking adamYUKI. That's right, I actually felt I was being helpful and enlightening, not being a fucking ass for the sake of being one, unlike some others.

    So please, fuck off, and stop acting like you have some sort of special right of rule in this place. Because thus far, you don't.
     
  16. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    Re: Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itag

    You know, if you hate him so much..go away...

    "Victory can be anticipated, but not assured" Sun-Tzu
     
  17. Drunken_Master

    Drunken_Master Well-Known Member

    Re: Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itag

    hey can you tack me down? we can have a punch up in the street.

    'Strong body but a weak mind' Sam Seed from Drunken Masters
     
  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    hi.

    Maybe. he dont know detail game style of VF4 orTK4. He only can see surface of them.

    He need to learn more ...and more.

    (o_o)a
     
  19. CreeD

    CreeD Well-Known Member

    Re: Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itag

    If I were judgmental, you'd see other people getting the ass end of my verbal PMS sessions. Strangely, you don't see that. Strangely, you keep getting them, and by mere coincidence other posters who have been around forever have the same reaction to your posts.
    Let's face it, your parents never sat you down on their knees when you were five years old and said in a wise voice, "Little Ice-9, I don't want you to ever take at face value the words of a nameless poster. It is a great offense to hear the words of an anonymous person on the internet, and I expect you to treat it as such and never reply." Your analogy about 'how you were brought up' couldn't be more out-there. It was surreal. Anonymity is part of what makes the internet so fucking great. How can you have been on the net this long and not gotten used to it and accepted it? It's like drinking at a gay bar for years and then getting all offended when some guy finally tries to pick you up. And what the hell is so informative and useful about having a nickname attached to one's posts? The only things you know about me is what I have chosen to tell you. The only thing you can deduce about drunken master is his IP portal. The only information you have on Feixaq is that he once was a VO player of note. Why the fuck does the 'Anonymous' to the right of the topic matter a goddamned whit? Why should it bother you if it's clear this anonymous poster is not making any effort at hiding, but rather wanted to ask a simple question without the hassle of registering and/or logging in?


    I've wasted enough time on this thread. I may be an arrogant bastard, but I don't jump into confrontations because I'm bored and have nothing better to do with my time. If I bitch at you it's because I'm genuinely bothered by something you've said and done, not because I'm picking on you. The bottom line is that your little snipe about anonymous posting was uncalled for, ignorant, and closeminded. You should have the balls to own up to it, apologize to the guy, answer his question, and then go on with your life.


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  20. ice-9

    ice-9 Well-Known Member

    Re: Arrogant developers (Comments from DOA3's Itag

    [​IMG] OK, you win.

    Everyone, let's all listen to Creed and try to do what he says yah?

    Creed, I don't want to be the asshole to tell you this, but the shit that's said about YOU is said behind YOUR BACK by the people who have met you. I frankly don't give a rats ass what people think of me from what I post here.
     

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