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Discussion in 'General' started by Myke, Dec 20, 2009.

  1. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    What a fucking leech. I'm talking about the dude (with video camera no less!) insisting on an autograph like it's his God-given entitlement. Gimme a fucking break! Cameron shoulda punched the guy in the throat.
     
  2. kungfusmurf

    kungfusmurf Well-Known Member

    Wow, never in my life have I'd heard some many people gave such a huge blowjobs to one single movie. OK ok I gave in, I'm going to put my face to be Tea Bagged by the IMAX screen & probably join everyone else with my own Blowjob services afterwards.
     
  3. Plague

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    It's wild. It was that awesome for me. I even got a little emotional watching that "Making of" video. I don't understand it. I'm just glad I feel that way.
     
  4. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    I didn't watch the movie. But judging from some reviews i don't think i will [​IMG]
     
  5. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

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    Well - except for (maybe) the all humans being evil part - that IS the story.

    I like that story.

    The way it was executed and portrayed... I've already talked about that. So worth every second of my time.
     
  6. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    Haha, damn this stuff people make reminds me of the shit I shot years ago.
     
  7. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    Haha, dude. I'm not one for autographs but he approached it civilly enough the first, was brushed off and then said, "please sir" stating that he just needed his signature to have everyone from the cast to have signed his poster.

    you get off a plane and sometimes the only thing you want is to be where you're going and I get that but the first two requests I didn't think were out of line.

    also, I don't think that's his camera as it is following him not being operated by him. I was actually surprised that there wasn't more people there!
     
  8. EmpNovA

    EmpNovA Well-Known Member

    GE are you nuts? The guy was a total scumbag and wanted the autograph for money. And you know what he was doing in the moments where the camera was off? Cursing at Cameron, calling him an asshole, yelling at him, being as obnoxious as possible. Why do you think that video is selectively edited? It's deliberately arranged to make Cameron look as in the wrong as possible.

    And I'm not just talking about the cut that occurs around twenty seconds into the video. I'm talking about the full minute before Cameron even exited the airport where the guy was bothering him and walking right next to him as well which was conveniently edited out.

    The dude screaming at Cameron is out of his mind. Cameron is waiting patiently for a ride from the airport. This isn't a movie premier, or a comic convention, it's an airport and not a place where you should approach someone for an autograph.

    The autograph guy is trying to make as much of a scene as possible. His agenda wasn't to get an autograph anymore at that point...it was to be as annoying as possible, get it on video, then sell it to TMZ (which he did). He's an opportunist, merely there for money, and he got his money's worth.

    This autograph guy is supposedly such a 'big fan' but won't leave Cameron alone. Then he starts calling Cameron a no talent and says that the plot of Avatar was garbage. What kind of fan is that?

    Lastly, the asshole bothering Cameron, happens to have an eBay account. Guess what his use name on eBay is? And no bullshit this is his actual eBay account.

    http://myworld.ebay.com/authenticautograph/

    Yeah what a huge fan [/sarcasm].
     
  9. adamYUKI

    adamYUKI Well-Known Member

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    Right. From what i've read, it appears that the beginning of the video (before Cameron calls this guy an asshole) has been edited out.

    Apparently, the guy behind him won't leave him alone, says he has no class, implies that JC is a stuck up asshole, whines about his own job, and finishes off by saying that the movie he wants an autograph for is a shallow piece of shit, and that Cameron should make better movies.

    John Mayer wrote a really good piece regarding what goes down at LAX with these "fans" - John Mayer says:

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of days ago I was pointed to a video on TMZ.com that featured “Avatar” director James Cameron involved in a verbal scuffle with who the gossip website would have you believe was a “fan.” The question is implicit in the video and write-up: “Why would a wealthy Hollywood director be so rude as not to sign an autograph for someone going out of his way to meet his hero?” Having been in these situations, and knowing very well what actually goes down before the video they show you begins and how the game is played within what you see, I’m going to break it down for you. (Watch video above and then read on.)

    The first order of business is to understand how people with cameras (and paraphernalia to be signed) end up at the airport to begin with. American Airlines has long been known to have at least one person in their organization selling flight manifests to the paparazzi. I’d imagine it’s not hard to find a gate agent or a skycap willing to trade a well-known name or two for a couple hundred dollars. This may raise the question as to why celebrities would continue to fly with American, but the answer is long and includes phrases like “great customer service” and “extremely delicious cookies upon landing.” (While I can’t speak for others, I certainly would rather not be photographed before or after a cross-country flight.)

    The fact that passenger lists are not available to the general public means that anyone waiting at the airport with any more than the CD from the passenger seat of their car has gotten word of which celebrities will be traveling through the terminal in the same way the paparazzi do. In some cases, these “fans” are working in concert with them. After all, it’s a great way to get a celebrity to interact with you on video if you can ask them impolite questions while they’re stopping to sign a few items for someone. If they decline, it’s time to switch to plan B: paint them as shallow Hollywood types that only care about the “little people” when it best serves them. This logic doesn’t really hold water since everyone now knows that being videotaped at LAX is regarded as one of the most high profile appearances one can make, especially during the release of a film. If James Cameron was an arrogant, calculating fraud who had little care for his fans on a personal level, he’d still be smart enough to know that signing a few posters on the way to his car would be an excellent PR move.

    But James Cameron doesn’t think about Public Relations at the airport. He’s a movie director, a puzzle freak. His brain works by way of iron clad logic. He’s spent four years in an editing bay trying to make the wingspan of an imaginary flying creature long enough to be able to sustain flight, factoring the weight of the body and the atmospheric pressure on a planet five light years away. He doesn’t understand the media shuffle, and I’m glad he hasn’t given any thought to it. It’s actually a waste of brain matter, and a slippery slope of compromise.

    While I can’t speak to what happened before the segment of video on TMZ, I can tell you that the man in the tiny hat with the Avatar poster had probably engaged Cameron for at least 30 seconds before the director responded (note the video edit.) That’s how it goes down; they walk alongside you. They bark requests at you, trying to get your pulse to quicken. If you give in and sign, the guy with the poster gets to sell it and make a few bucks. If you don’t give in, as it gets harder to acquiesce with each successive yelp, then the stench of cash really starts to waft in as Video Camera Guy gets the goods while you explain in no uncertain terms to Obnoxious E-bay Poster Guy that he’s not going to get what he’s asking for tonight.

    The end of the video is the most telling: when Cameron gets into his car, the man with the tiny hat abandons his “average man, son of a farmer” story and begins to shout insults at the director, tufts of sheep’s wool falling to the ground as the wolf finally appears. This should validate every last word chosen by Cameron, but the fact is, of the 245,432 votes on TMZ’s website weighing in on who the “a-hole” was, 81% of readers side with “The Fan,” calling out the director. (That’s what pushed me over the edge in writing this. I don’t like being made to come up with more than 140 characters at a time, you know.)

    Movie stars know how this game is played, and therefore sign a few items they know will end up in the bootleg ether in exchange for not getting caught in the snares of being called ungrateful (the worst thing you can call a grateful human being) and that’s why you don’t see this type of video all that often. But James Cameron is not a movie star. He directs them, but he doesn’t think like them, and he’s not supposed to. He’s working off the logical, the quantifiable math of a situation. He doesn’t have media training, and he should never seek it. James Cameron has wired his brain to consider the cause and effect of his reality, one where anything is achievable if you think long enough about it, and where being rude will get you nowhere, no matter how many people will see you in an unsavory light. Even in live action, two-dimensional 640x480 VGA standard definition web video, I’m willing to bet that James Cameron’s reality was the only believable one that evening.</div></div>

    I like the bolded part. Well said, Mayer! I'm with Myke; Cameron should have hell-stabbed this guy in the throat! [​IMG]
     
  10. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    I guess the story is more of an ecological message. In the end, they say "the humans returned to their dead world, only few were allowed to stay". The Na'vi were all about living in harmony with the nature. Thats what its about. Whether you call it shallow or not, I guess it depends on point of view. At least the movie has a message, often replicated message, but message nonetheless.
     
  11. GodEater

    GodEater Well-Known Member

    hey, if that's what happened then that's what happened. I can only watch what I've got and to be honest I didn't watch the video because the sound was so poor. I just kept listening to the audio.

    I did a quick search and haven't yet found the extended version. anyone have it?

    Funny thing is that I when my wife and i were talking we chatted about that very evolution of autographs and how people make money off them and how it's changing a) how they're sought out and b) how they're given.

    thanks for the clarification!

    I am still boggled about the whole waiting on the ride. didn't you have a movie that just made $600 million world wide? can't they hop to a little faster?
     
  12. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    Well excuse me if we can't mind meld with an octopus. Here you either are eaten, beaten into submission, or exterminated.
     
  13. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    Where do you live again? I would be most disturbed if those things happened to me on a regular basis.
     
  14. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    Its called top of the food chain.
     
  15. Richkwondo

    Richkwondo Well-Known Member

    Well , I thought it was a good movie. It was decent, just not the second coming of movies that Cameron made it out to be. I wouldn't watch it again, its just too long. I was psyched to see Weaver in a Cameron film again, she did not disappoint . And with Michelle Rodriguez , this movie had alot of potential , but I was disappointed about how the story turned out for her( I'll leave the spoilers out). Did ILM do the effects? If so, it's shocking how the much maligned Jar Jar binks' technology could pay off someday. One of the things that nagged me is that it seemed like Sully made two quick left turns to join the nav'i . It was more abrupt and had less mitigating factors than Anakin joining the darkside. All in all , I found Avatar to be one of the better sci-fi movies in recent memory. To me it definitely falls in the "good" category . Considering how many sci-fi movies are train-wrecks, that alone is an incredible feat.
     
  16. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    You can't be eaten if youre on top of the food chain.
     
  17. TheWorstPlayer

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    Let throw your ass out into shark infested waters with a cut and see if you can't be eaten Shit lets go play with some alligators in FL. You can be eaten if you're on the top of the food chain don't be absurd.
     
  18. Kamais_Ookin

    Kamais_Ookin Well-Known Troll

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    TWP know's what he's talking about Manji, he's getting his ass bitten from the sharks all the time when he's playing his Jeffry online [​IMG]
     
  19. Brisal73

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  20. Chief_Flash

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    finally saw this movie yesterday in 3D. this is some next level shit, and it's still selling out like hotcakes. now that james cameron has the 2 biggest ticket selling movies in history, he's pretty much sitting like a king.

    i sorta wish the story was more riveting or engaging though. for some reason, at some parts of the film, i felt like i was watching Lion King. [​IMG]rade
     

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