being a western VF player

Discussion in 'General' started by BK__, Nov 18, 2006.

  1. BK__

    BK__ Well-Known Member

    has anybody here actually quit VF due to hmm say, i dunno:

    - no playable update of VF?
    - watching japanese tournaments and no playable update of VF?
    - reading about VF and no playable update of VF?

    and wow, there's many other reasons why it's hard to keep playing VF, despite not actually having a playable update of VF /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif~~ i know im being impatient, but UK only got FT after FT died in Japan, and now VF5 will come here when it's good and ready, with either a heafty price or a mere shadow of it's self :p

    im actually running out of things to do in my spare time,

    how about you guys?
  2. Genzen

    Genzen Well-Known Member

    Not so much. Just got back into playing Evo, now that I'm in America with Andy, I have someone to play against.
    Also, FFXII is keeping me occupied too, but whenever there is human competition available, I'll take it.
    You guys are spoilt; there are like 10 people in London who all play VF at a decent standard, so you should make the most of it.
  3. BK__

    BK__ Well-Known Member

    10 has gone down to a regular 3,

    the rest dont like the sticks or play casually~ i'd say VF isnt serious anymore around here, even if it got the lowest respect in the first place.

    basically, (mabye it's just me) but training EVO/FT after FT has come and gone, and after i just watched VF5 again and again is alittle hmmm. dry. until march~

    mabye im just complaining /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif~
    but i didnt really have a conclusive point to the topic anywayz, just a "ehh what's ur view"
  4. Neko

    Neko Well-Known Member

    Sorry to here that BK_, , , ,

    My suggestion is to find something else you like and just focus on that for a short period of time, if you like VF enough (which from reading your posts and watching your Wolf I know you do) then you will inevitably return to the game. If you are playing too much, then simply give yourself a break and then get back to it. From your posts above it seems this is more of a reaction out of frustration and not just necessarily from boredom or the game just becoming dry. Anyway, I know you won’t give up!!

    As for me, it will still be a long time before I give up VF. I understand your frustration, believe me, although my frustration is different, so let us vent together. I have been in china for over a year now and have been stuck with periodically visiting the forums and more than periodically watching vf videos (including evo and not just vf5) yeah, I know I could make a trip to Beijing or Hong Kong and find the scene there (I sometimes go to their vf websites, interesting stuff) but I simply don’t enjoy traveling around over here. vf to me is quite strange, I really don’t know how I will give this up, no matter how busy I am here in china or how busy I am back home in America, I always found time to train or watch some video for at least 10 to 30 minutes a day, there is just something about it that I really really like, I don’t know what it is, I guess I don’t really care that I don’t know either. Whether it was playing for hours and hour’s alone in quest, or during competition, when it was time to stop, I just didn’t want to. I remember one of the rare occurrences of finding some "competition" in Atlanta (it was just a friend), frankly speaking I had my way with him literally every single match, and not at all because im good, but because he still just didn’t understand the game well enough at the time and I had about a year or more of experience. so we played for almost 9 straight hours and even after 9 hours of me winning pretty much every time I was not at all bored, and nor was he, because we were just playing to improve. And to me, that was really cool. And he as well as I improving throughout our matches was also a fun and gratifying thing to witness and be a part of. I enjoy these feelings.

    I feel that VF is something that at end of each session, indeed can give you such a kind of gratifying feeling, a feeling of improvement, and perhaps this is why I play it. I don’t know if you play or how you feel about basketball, but to me it is the exact same thing (as is with me studying Chinese). we are always trying (usually in vain) to find the perfect stroke in order to shoot that perfect shot, or in vf, perfect our techniques in order to play that perfect round, all which will allow us to succeed and obtain the feeling of achievement...

    Just my 2.5 cents on the subject

  5. BK__

    BK__ Well-Known Member

    yes, that's a really informative post about playing VF~ and i totally agree, ~ playing and improving nomatter is what keeps people playing VF~.

    for me, many years ago, it was basically "Ryan hart and Daisuke vs UK" and everybody wanted to improve their game. as a result, there was plenty of competition, vids and tournaments from japan, moves, combos, discussion, all being discovered as we are all playing the game. the world was on an equal ground of experiencing the same game.

    but now, i find myself reading VF like a book, and unable to play, or experience what im reading. as a result, referring to EVO and playing competitavely within the community as if it's some excuse of VF energy. ~~ that used to be totally fine, but i think EVO/FT (bedroom EVO especially) has been exhausted when im looking at a new game system for VF5.

    i think the "dead era of EVO to FT to VF5" already died, and i just dont like sega anymore for treating the rest of the world as if it could get used to this for as long as they wish to.

    taking a break would also result to me getting mentally slower and i cant promise by march i'd have the time in my life or the bother to learn this interlecually deep game ~~ mabye mabye not, but for now it seems "playing VF for improvement sake" has hit a brick wall or atleast in my view which im not stating for everybody everywhere.
  6. Crazy_Galaxy

    Crazy_Galaxy Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    BK__ said:

    10 has gone down to a regular 3,

    [/ QUOTE ]
    make that 0 now, as casino can't be bothered to matain the sticks and buttons on the machine (it's unplayble now as the buttons do random things), sounds like trocadero all over again.. guess thats it for me arcade vf is now over /versus/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
  7. Genzen

    Genzen Well-Known Member

    You guys should all get together once a week/month and have a decent session. Me and Andy make a point of playing Evo at least once everyday; it keeps you fresh and the game renews interest in it's self as you can always aim to improve on some area of your game (even if it's just trying to add an extra throw escape on to your evades, or make more use of ARE or something, we can always work on something).

    One way I found to get interested in the game is to play a new character, as you learn all kinds of different aspects of the game, making use of the new character strengths, and havng to make up for the weaknesses they have.

    Just my thoughts, do as you will.......
  8. Crazy_Galaxy

    Crazy_Galaxy Well-Known Member

    yeah it's not really a question of interest, if I have the time I love to play vf,
    it's just I HATE to play on crap sticks and buttons which unfortunately is the norm over here,
    ah well by the time vf5 comes out and I've spent a small fortune for the tv, ps3, game and sticks I'm sure I'll feel better... /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif
  9. BK__

    BK__ Well-Known Member

    i like to play VF with the whole world, ~~

    in the grand scheme of learning and improving on VF seems like a quicksand in the west~ because you just cant get excited about playing new opponents without learning another version of VF ~ without actually having that version of VF o___o~

    it's like saying "go back to VF3, 2 and 1 and find some competition" ~~ didnt you know that VF competition is now VF5? ~ ~ or atleast posting new information / vids / discussion about VF4 just seems retro and unappealing.

    it's just not interesting enough anymore.~ i cant believe that bedroom Evo has managed to stretch up to 4-5yrs~

    P.s --
    ARE wolf = after d,df+p / b+p / db+p
    ARE goh = nonexistent ~ shrlm is a better spot

    hey wait that's my training finished /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif
  10. Genzen

    Genzen Well-Known Member

    Well, In regards to the sticks being a problem, that's easily enough fixed, organise a gathering at someone's house or some kind of venue, and use your own sticks; you don't need an arcade to get competition.

    As for the problem about getting new players, I don't see why that means so much to you. I would say that I have played about 10 people who I would class a good players (by that I mean people who are consistantly able to beat me) and I have only really been able to practice and improve my skill level against 2 people (my two brothers) and I would much rather play these two people over and over again, than not play anyone at all.

    It seems like you and Ollie both have the passion for VF, so even if you two just get togther once a week at one of your guy's places and play for an hour or two, it would be something to keep your vf lust satified.

    As I said before, me and Andy play VF at least once a day, and neither of us find it boring, nor do we sit and pray for new players to compete against (though competition is always welcome).

    It's up to you, but it seems like you have all the tools necessary to play vf, but you don't seem to want to use them.
  11. Crazy_Galaxy

    Crazy_Galaxy Well-Known Member

    yeah I guess we're a lazy bunch who just wanna play the latest version in the arcade /versus/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
    p.s as home sessions take organising ,
    arcade= convieniance, pop in for a few games while going places etc, with more players playing the game it raises the chances of challenges /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif , me I'm an arcade player more than a home player I guess, this is part comes back to the time issue.
  12. BK__

    BK__ Well-Known Member

    hmm, my room has some more space these days for some mini sessions i think~~ but i really would mean mini~ as i have a house full of family which wouldnt consider a random party of VF hooligans /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif~ haha just kiddin~

    what i really mean is family consideration + room space = mabye 2-3 heads ~ excluding me.

    i think since arcade day is comming up, i started training VF seriously again which i havent done in atleast half a year.~ infact as of now, i set a goal to top any level ive *ever* reached since ive ever touched VF(whatever that is) ~ which basically means technical training:)~ if arcade day is gonna be good, then i want to make it good, atleast for the last efforts of VF4 before i get so bored that i start training to be a commentator

    What ive never liked is the blindness that sega shows toward the western scene, even then NYC was shown in the 10th annaversary DVD to show ppl that westerners play VF! ~

    and i dont think i can even find the money to buy a ps3 for one game, i may aswell buy the arcade cabinet /versus/images/graemlins/indifferent.gif
  13. Crazy_Galaxy

    Crazy_Galaxy Well-Known Member

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    BK__ said:
    and i dont think i can even find the money to buy a ps3 for one game, i may aswell buy the arcade cabinet /versus/images/graemlins/indifferent.gif

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    Don't forget a new tv and sticks (old one's won't work) /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif ,
    ah well I guess this threads good for complaining and letting out frustrations
  14. BK__

    BK__ Well-Known Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    _optimus_ said:

    [ QUOTE ]
    BK__ said:
    and i dont think i can even find the money to buy a ps3 for one game, i may aswell buy the arcade cabinet /versus/images/graemlins/indifferent.gif

    [/ QUOTE ]
    Don't forget a new tv and sticks (old one's won't work) /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif ,
    ah well I guess this threads good for complaining and letting out frustrations

    [/ QUOTE ]

  15. KiwE

    KiwE Well-Known Member

    Old sticks do work through a converter. Now... let the whining continue ^^;;
  16. Genzen

    Genzen Well-Known Member

    Ok, being a moron when it comes to technical issues, I have to ask for your expertise.
    I have a Hori RAP, it was rather expensive and I would like to be able to use it for VF5. Will these converters you talk about be easy to buy, and easy to use?

    Also, when I get a PS3, will it not work on old televisions?
    (I'm in America, if that makes any difference to the ports or formats or anything technical like that)

    Sounds like it could be rather expensive, and I don't want my stick to become obsolete.
  17. Cuz

    Cuz Well-Known Member

    The converter should be pretty similar to an extention cord. You plug your stick in the extention, then plug the extention in the USB hole. Well that's how other converters have worked for me.

    I doubt that you'll have any issues with the PS3 and an old TV. At worst you may have to buy a generic non HDMI cord. If you don't buy the official over priced Sony peripheral line, you probably will be looking at something that cost less then 20$.
  18. SeanJohnFaSho

    SeanJohnFaSho New Member

    I'm from california... (Need to create my profile and such...) But I can never find anyone that actually plays...people are so in to these fake fighting games that the 10th wonder of the world that is VF hasn't registered in their brains yet. Then again, I didnt know about VF till my brother introduced me... I wish there were tournaments and such out here... But I cant even find machines to practice the three button on... So, I am strictly a PS2 player... in fact, I wont even buy a PS3 until VF5 comes out. I cant wait for that... but if your from ca, and you play, holla at me... traveling to play VF is worth it!

    -SJ(Haoh Lau)
  19. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

  20. Genzen

    Genzen Well-Known Member

    Ah, ok man, thanks.
    I have no idea what those cables are, but I'm sure my brother will.

    So on the PS3, are the controllers going to be plugged in via USB, as opposed to those big ass flat connections on the end of everything at the moment?

    Is USB the reason that they can make use of this tilting technology, or is it something they could have used anyway?

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