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Oh yeah, that IS usable! If you can practically SMELL someone trying to mash buttons off of their back, y not??

And then it does 30 damage by itself on NH, 45 DMG on CH?? (most combo starters start at 20)

We probably wont get this off much on high level players, but there are pleeeenty of others who will press buttons off their back without thinking. Thanks for the find, man

 

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man, your posts are full of good info. You summarize the pros/cons of Serpent Smash Cannon vs. Dragon Smash Cannon way better than I did. And TBH, I never thought about using 4K or 8K as -18 punishers! I'm gonna try that out and see how well it works, but if it does, that's potentially more damage (i'm assuming approaching half-life damage)

My only thing about 1K vs. 2P+KK is this: I might have set an improper tone when discussing the cons of 1K -- though I never actually stated to 'use Serpent Smash instead of Dragon Smash Cannon', the way I presented it may have made it seem like 'using 1K at all is a bad idea', when really its not. Also, when speaking of comparing the two launchers, I consider Taka a special case, though I didn't mention that either.

My main gripes with 1K is its inconsistency and pigeon-holed range of uses. The fact that launch differs on NH depending on standing/crouching really messes up its use as a mid attack (beating crouchers from any state is the best thing about mids). You still get good damage either way, but the fact that I have to visually confirm the height of my launched opponent before going to a combo increases the chances of it being dropped, even for vets. This makes it less reliable on NH.

And because it's less reliable on NH, its only real use (IMO) is to get CHs. And for that, I (normally) find it easier and safer to use 14f KP for that, which is faster startup, covers more frame situations, and is safer (even though it is a high, the worst you really have to worry about is a CH 2P, rather than a 15f punish on a blocked 1K. Its also somewhat 'safer' on evade). Plus, you get almost the same damage in most cases.

I like Serpent Smash Cannon more, personally, because it covers more uses in-game. I don't really go for CHs as much with this move.....and the fact that 2P+K does only 10 damage and will lose in clashes to elbows makes it even more of a reason I won't do so. But as I mentioned above, I'll use KP for that, or I'll use 6P if I want to trade damage and range for mid properties and heavy frame advantage. Since I already have other tools for CH, I use 2P+K/2P+KK as a conditioning tool to force people to stand up.

Conditioning players is an absolute necessity for playing a good Sarah, as that's the only way you'll get her good stuff off. 1K is a 'not-so-great' conditioning tool (because it's not a 'consistent' mid attack). 2P+K/2P+KK is a good, consistent conditioning tool, as its a relatively fast (16f) launcher, and is not easy to punish, due to the fact that you can stagger the two kicks, or just use one kick, creating somewhat of a defensive 50-50 situation. 1K is a CH tool when (IMO) Sarah has better, safer, faster, and more reliable, less YOLO CH tools in KP, 6P and maybe a few others. 2P+K/2P+KK is not a good CH tool, but it doesn't even need to be used as a CH tool

 

That being said, I'll definitely use 1K alot for Taka, for situations where I ABSOLUTELY 100% KNOW it will CH, as a backdash-->launch tool, or as guaranteed punish for -18 situations

 

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