Brad vs. Lau

Hey all.. I'm pretty new to VF5 and looking for some tips for Brad vs. Lau.

Specifically how to beat Lau's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. . evade seems near impossible. . ducking is useless. . I can't even seem to get a hit in after guarding even thought it puts him at a big disadvantage.. and I haven't been able to find a counterhit. .

Maybe I just need a lot more practice, but I don't have the same difficulties against any other character.

Any additional ideas on Brad vs. Lau are also welcome!

 

Yo, this is DancingFighterG. Patience is the key for this match up man. You cannot interrupts the the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif strings but if you block the 2K you get a guareenteed 6P. Make Lau players commit to big moves and watch out for Lau's moves that give him advantage on block. Look at Lau's movelist and see what gives Lau + adavantage on block. Must do!! Also, don't let lau players to bait you with moves that put him in BT. He has very quick moves out of BT so just be patient. Keep your game mid range until you get advantage and then go for it.

 

You can /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif Lau out of this string at any time before the final /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/ /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/ /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif ending. If you let it get to that point, it becomes a guessing game. Blocking low is probably your best option, as it deals with two of Lau's three options ( /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif); you will eat the mid /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif ending, but even on hit Lau is left at -9 and it is the weakest of the three string enders.

 

Ducking doesn't beat /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif? Are you playing this game?

And this isn't a Brad vs. Lau problem, this is a guarding problem.

 

If you get hit by the first 3 punches, chances are you need to make a guess. Keep in mind that Lau is at -25 after the low sweep and -23 after the mid kick, so have your biggest minor counter move ready. In brad's case, I think it is the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

 

Thanks for the help! As I said, I'm totally new to VF. . played a lot of Tekken back in the day so I'm not a complete noob to these games. . just having some trouble getting the hang of it here.

Sebo - You are right it is a primarily a blocking issue. . I can block the move (obviously) but I still can rarely get a hit in after that. Maybe I'm just waiting too long to input after a successful block?

Basically my opponent is all attack and press which is frustrating because I should be able to beat him with some basic defense and a couple well-placed combos.

I dunno. . maybe I picked the wrong char to start learning with?

 

You're waiting too long. Punching shit/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is like -24, so you can either do /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or the really easy /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. If you duck Punching shit/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif>combo is a simple solution. A bigger move can be used too.

Play who you want.

 

Yo, this is DancingFighterG. tenetn, I started using Brad as my main right out the gate so picking the wrong character is not the problem. I will say that Brad does take sometime to learn to win with because he is not character that you can just push buttons with and just win with. The cool thing about Brad is that you can learn the basics of VF from him but expect to lose more than you win. It's ok though because one you get the basics of VF down i.e throw escapes, crouch dashing, dashing in general and then the brad basics i.e combos, cancelling into 0 frame throws out of ducking and swaying then you will be all good. Hope this helps!!

 

Wow.

Tenetn, learn to guard the last kick on reaction. It's not a guessing game if it gets to that point. Stand up until you SEE the lowsweep coming and then duck. It's not that hard when you know this and you'll never get hit. Start of with this.

P.S; Even if lau hits ppp4k on you he's at a dissadvantage after. Guarding low use 2p+k6p>combo etc, not 6p.

Sebo; Stop with the "are you playing this game" attitude.

 

Yo, this is DancingFighterG. Kiwe, good too see you back man. Your tips on brad has helped me a lot man. Thanks!! Just wanted to tell you that.

 

It is not an "attitude" but a legit question.

If he was playing the game, he'd know that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif avoids highs (/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif) and blocks lows (/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif).

 

Yo, this is DancingFighterG. Hey guy, I really want to start using SR P (body break) more often because I love the combo options, fuzzy capabality of it and the traps but I have a hard time setting it up in fights. Any suggestions on how to set this move up. Granted since it is a mid you want them to duck or deal with the guessing game and catch them while they are ducking but I need situations to mimic.

 

You can get your opponent to crouch by using Phasing Turn /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif after for example /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif....
After 2 or 3 of those your opponent should be prepared to duck as soon as you hit or he blocks the two punches. If that happens you can immediately go to SR /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, or do it after Phasing Turn /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif which will create a stagger /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif And you know what to do from this situation /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

Yo, this is DancingFighterG. Sorry I put this in the wrong thread. oops!! Thanks for the idea Griever!!